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00:02:36,990\n那因為他可能現在因為通風管線的關係這個可能這是一個查證的一個過程所以管委會的部分社區管委會的部分可能也要發揮一點功能那就我們偵查人員來講的話我大概你報案之後我大概開始收集證據那如果要請到所有票這一點我一定要\n\n8\n00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:40,413\n現在目前確實有這樣的一個狀況發生那住在這個大樓裡面的民眾其實有\n\n9\n00:03:02,094 --> 00:03:28,910\n他們也大約知道是哪一戶也許某一天這個人可能被警察可能帶到派出所去然後詢問之後也許他有吸毒吸毒完之後後來沒多久他又被交保就是後面可能就又被交保然後又回到社區裡面我覺得這個狀況是不停的在發生只是我們想要知道就是說如果民眾發生這樣的遇到這樣的狀況確實是不堪其擾\n\n10\n00:03:32,753 --> 00:03:44,162\n這是確實在我們生活當中存在發生的事情當然我們第一時間一定是跟這個派出所報案就是說民眾遇到這樣的狀況要怎麼樣\n\n11\n00:03:47,685 --> 00:03:47,725\n黃秀芳議員\n\n12\n00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:05,450\n委員好\n\n13\n00:04:31,622 --> 00:04:52,733\n根據我們新世代反毒策略我們目前為止我們警政署其實是一個友善通報網但是友善通報網是包含各個社區所以各個社區假如有反應的話我們警察會立即第一時間來做處理那假如是臨時的租戶的話我們就會把他趕出去假如是固定的租戶的話那依照那個大廈管理條例的話就來這邊來做處理\n\n14\n00:04:57,715 --> 00:05:15,943\n接下來我也請教我們這兩個部會就是說我們現在目前的這個其實我在地方我都會一直聽到就是說我們現在目前的這個毒品防治的這個法好像就是很鬆很鬆的如果你持有的話\n\n15\n00:05:17,283 --> 00:05:40,310\n持有這個三級或第四級的這個毒品這個處罰的門檻降為這個純值敬重5公克以上那如果說你是這個持有的話其實這個罪行還不是很大那現在新興毒品有的他是把毒放在這個咖啡包裡面那咖啡包裡面的這個含毒\n\n16\n00:05:40,990 --> 00:06:05,628\n他不可能一次就放了5公克以上他可能就是持有好多包嘛所以為什麼說我們現在那個毒品的這個咖啡包會進到校園其實就很容易取得啊確實是很容易取得那像這樣子的話我們有沒有可能再去檢視一下目前的這個我們毒品危害防治條例的這個法則的部分有沒有可能再去做一個修改\n\n17\n00:06:06,188 --> 00:06:20,517\n各位報告有關於這個毒咖啡包這一個部分就是它向來都是列我們高檢署統合六大系統查緝毒品的一個最主要的軸心的一個重點工作\n\n18\n00:06:21,537 --> 00:06:48,684\n那有關於委員剛垂詢的這個刑度以及這個純子敬重其實我們已經降過幾次了有關於這個持有要處罰的這個部分純子敬重已經我記得就修毒品危害防治條例已經修了兩次還幾次我忘記了有足以的把這個持有的這個重量來降低入刑化是\n\n19\n00:06:50,396 --> 00:07:06,790\n所以有沒有可能就是說如果針對你我剛剛講的那個咖啡包啊它裡面也許才含量可能是0.2、0.4公克嘛那也許它要拿了十幾包才有這個禁止、禁重是那個5公克啊對啊\n\n20\n00:07:07,190 --> 00:07:24,478\n那他如果說拿了十幾包他可以給十幾個人使用欸那像這樣子的話如果如果他是持有然後又拿給別人用我覺得這個應該我覺得應該要去討論一下這個刑責是不是或者是罰則是不是要加重\n\n21\n00:07:24,878 --> 00:07:46,184\n跟委員報告他其實拿了這麼多包可能我們在證據上會朝著販賣的一個來辦理販賣的話你三級還是四級他最近本行這五年以上有期徒刑這個就是重的刑度了那個就是我們在查緝面有關於證據收集我們會盡可能的有如果有販賣製造我們嚴厲的來查緝他\n\n22\n00:07:50,165 --> 00:07:51,426\n新興毒品造成治安\n\n23\n00:08:09,415 --> 00:08:30,851\n的所有人身的這個安全造成一個危害那我想請教就是說目前這個新興毒品可能以年輕就是年輕化那我們也看到這幾年就是因為吸食新興毒品然後死亡的這個案件也逐年在增加所以我想請教就是說\n\n24\n00:08:32,292 --> 00:08:56,954\n類似這樣的狀況就是我們這個新興毒品我們講的有很多種那其中一種是那個彩虹煙彩虹煙其實年輕人尤其是學生校園學生因為這個是很容易取得而且它的這個製作簡單然後其實它也不貴重點它也不貴所以我們要怎麼去防範那\n\n25\n00:08:58,875 --> 00:09:17,580\n尤其是年輕人這些新興毒品看到全部幾乎都是年輕人在使用那我不知道說你們這兩個部會未來要怎麼就是說第一個我覺得說罰則重是不是剛剛楊委員也有特別提到那是不是列為現在目前還列為這個第三第三級嗎\n\n26\n00:09:19,532 --> 00:09:42,767\n根委報告因為新興毒品種類非常多那大部分大概是卡西同類那是卡西同類三級嘛那有關於這個像校園裡面兒少私用毒品的那一塊即使如果是私用一二級毒品的話那會歸到那個少年法庭那邊去阿如果是私用三四級毒品這個行政\n\n27\n00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:45,289\n警政署稍微回應一下\n\n28\n00:10:05,855 --> 00:10:19,159\n保護委員,那假如我們校園有查獲到毒品的話,我們會去溯源,那包括各種新興的毒品我們都會溯源,有溯源到校園的部分的話,我們就會結合教育部以及相關單位來聯合查處。\n\n29\n00:10:22,337 --> 00:10:38,367\n最後我是真的要確實就是說我們的社會當中我剛剛講的那個大樓確實真的真實的存在那再來就是新興毒品真的現在年輕人取得就是要取得這種新興毒品確實是非常容易\n\n30\n00:11:03,755 --> 00:11:03,895\n謝謝委員提醒謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4987\t31123\t謝謝主席我們請法務部跟內政部法務部司長那內政部是吳警政監委員好司長好司長我今天就是我們委員會討論這個新興毒品那我想請教就是說其實在一般的大樓\n33008\t49461\t這個住宅區大樓大樓大樓有很多的民眾他們也會反應就是說因為大樓他可能是那個那個通風的關係管線的關係所以有時候這個上下樓或者是其他地方\n50341\t50561\t黃秀芳\n76972\t90484\t那像這樣子的話我們這個民眾要怎麼自我保護嗎總是我不能每天都聞到這樣的味道啊也許我們聞到就他認為說這個就是一個毒品的那個味道\n92577\t107272\t請警察來警察也不可能每戶去敲門然後去也許這個住戶知道說是哪一家可是如果你沒有搜索票的話你怎麼進到那個人家那個家裡面去那我請司長遇到這樣的問題怎麼辦\n108773\t131422\t各位報告這是偵查實務個案首先第一個當然他這個一定流程我聞到這味道感覺是怪怪的好像也是毒品那是不是毒品他可能也不知道像我自己也沒聞過我也搞不清楚那是不是毒品那這個時候如果覺得是毒品的話可能有人在吸毒他可能就直接跟派出所報案那派出所警員就會來訪查\n133263\t156990\t那因為他可能現在因為通風管線的關係這個可能這是一個查證的一個過程所以管委會的部分社區管委會的部分可能也要發揮一點功能那就我們偵查人員來講的話我大概你報案之後我大概開始收集證據那如果要請到所有票這一點我一定要\n157850\t160413\t現在目前確實有這樣的一個狀況發生那住在這個大樓裡面的民眾其實有\n182094\t208910\t他們也大約知道是哪一戶也許某一天這個人可能被警察可能帶到派出所去然後詢問之後也許他有吸毒吸毒完之後後來沒多久他又被交保就是後面可能就又被交保然後又回到社區裡面我覺得這個狀況是不停的在發生只是我們想要知道就是說如果民眾發生這樣的遇到這樣的狀況確實是不堪其擾\n212753\t224162\t這是確實在我們生活當中存在發生的事情當然我們第一時間一定是跟這個派出所報案就是說民眾遇到這樣的狀況要怎麼樣\n227685\t227725\t黃秀芳議員\n245350\t245450\t委員好\n271622\t292733\t根據我們新世代反毒策略我們目前為止我們警政署其實是一個友善通報網但是友善通報網是包含各個社區所以各個社區假如有反應的話我們警察會立即第一時間來做處理那假如是臨時的租戶的話我們就會把他趕出去假如是固定的租戶的話那依照那個大廈管理條例的話就來這邊來做處理\n297715\t315943\t接下來我也請教我們這兩個部會就是說我們現在目前的這個其實我在地方我都會一直聽到就是說我們現在目前的這個毒品防治的這個法好像就是很鬆很鬆的如果你持有的話\n317283\t340310\t持有這個三級或第四級的這個毒品這個處罰的門檻降為這個純值敬重5公克以上那如果說你是這個持有的話其實這個罪行還不是很大那現在新興毒品有的他是把毒放在這個咖啡包裡面那咖啡包裡面的這個含毒\n340990\t365628\t他不可能一次就放了5公克以上他可能就是持有好多包嘛所以為什麼說我們現在那個毒品的這個咖啡包會進到校園其實就很容易取得啊確實是很容易取得那像這樣子的話我們有沒有可能再去檢視一下目前的這個我們毒品危害防治條例的這個法則的部分有沒有可能再去做一個修改\n366188\t380517\t各位報告有關於這個毒咖啡包這一個部分就是它向來都是列我們高檢署統合六大系統查緝毒品的一個最主要的軸心的一個重點工作\n381537\t408684\t那有關於委員剛垂詢的這個刑度以及這個純子敬重其實我們已經降過幾次了有關於這個持有要處罰的這個部分純子敬重已經我記得就修毒品危害防治條例已經修了兩次還幾次我忘記了有足以的把這個持有的這個重量來降低入刑化是\n410396\t426790\t所以有沒有可能就是說如果針對你我剛剛講的那個咖啡包啊它裡面也許才含量可能是0.2、0.4公克嘛那也許它要拿了十幾包才有這個禁止、禁重是那個5公克啊對啊\n427190\t444478\t那他如果說拿了十幾包他可以給十幾個人使用欸那像這樣子的話如果如果他是持有然後又拿給別人用我覺得這個應該我覺得應該要去討論一下這個刑責是不是或者是罰則是不是要加重\n444878\t466184\t跟委員報告他其實拿了這麼多包可能我們在證據上會朝著販賣的一個來辦理販賣的話你三級還是四級他最近本行這五年以上有期徒刑這個就是重的刑度了那個就是我們在查緝面有關於證據收集我們會盡可能的有如果有販賣製造我們嚴厲的來查緝他\n470165\t471426\t新興毒品造成治安\n489415\t510851\t的所有人身的這個安全造成一個危害那我想請教就是說目前這個新興毒品可能以年輕就是年輕化那我們也看到這幾年就是因為吸食新興毒品然後死亡的這個案件也逐年在增加所以我想請教就是說\n512292\t536954\t類似這樣的狀況就是我們這個新興毒品我們講的有很多種那其中一種是那個彩虹煙彩虹煙其實年輕人尤其是學生校園學生因為這個是很容易取得而且它的這個製作簡單然後其實它也不貴重點它也不貴所以我們要怎麼去防範那\n538875\t557580\t尤其是年輕人這些新興毒品看到全部幾乎都是年輕人在使用那我不知道說你們這兩個部會未來要怎麼就是說第一個我覺得說罰則重是不是剛剛楊委員也有特別提到那是不是列為現在目前還列為這個第三第三級嗎\n559532\t582767\t根委報告因為新興毒品種類非常多那大部分大概是卡西同類那是卡西同類三級嘛那有關於這個像校園裡面兒少私用毒品的那一塊即使如果是私用一二級毒品的話那會歸到那個少年法庭那邊去阿如果是私用三四級毒品這個行政\n583787\t585289\t警政署稍微回應一下\n605855\t619159\t保護委員,那假如我們校園有查獲到毒品的話,我們會去溯源,那包括各種新興的毒品我們都會溯源,有溯源到校園的部分的話,我們就會結合教育部以及相關單位來聯合查處。\n622337\t638367\t最後我是真的要確實就是說我們的社會當中我剛剛講的那個大樓確實真的真實的存在那再來就是新興毒品真的現在年輕人取得就是要取得這種新興毒品確實是非常容易\n638507\t663695\t響鐘\n663755\t663895\t謝謝委員提醒 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席我們請法務部跟內政部法務部司長那內政部是吳警政監委員好司長好司長我今天就是我們委員會討論這個新興毒品那我想請教就是說其實在一般的大樓\n這個住宅區大樓大樓大樓有很多的民眾他們也會反應就是說因為大樓他可能是那個那個通風的關係管線的關係所以有時候這個上下樓或者是其他地方\n黃秀芳\n那像這樣子的話我們這個民眾要怎麼自我保護嗎總是我不能每天都聞到這樣的味道啊也許我們聞到就他認為說這個就是一個毒品的那個味道\n請警察來警察也不可能每戶去敲門然後去也許這個住戶知道說是哪一家可是如果你沒有搜索票的話你怎麼進到那個人家那個家裡面去那我請司長遇到這樣的問題怎麼辦\n各位報告這是偵查實務個案首先第一個當然他這個一定流程我聞到這味道感覺是怪怪的好像也是毒品那是不是毒品他可能也不知道像我自己也沒聞過我也搞不清楚那是不是毒品那這個時候如果覺得是毒品的話可能有人在吸毒他可能就直接跟派出所報案那派出所警員就會來訪查\n那因為他可能現在因為通風管線的關係這個可能這是一個查證的一個過程所以管委會的部分社區管委會的部分可能也要發揮一點功能那就我們偵查人員來講的話我大概你報案之後我大概開始收集證據那如果要請到所有票這一點我一定要\n現在目前確實有這樣的一個狀況發生那住在這個大樓裡面的民眾其實有\n他們也大約知道是哪一戶也許某一天這個人可能被警察可能帶到派出所去然後詢問之後也許他有吸毒吸毒完之後後來沒多久他又被交保就是後面可能就又被交保然後又回到社區裡面我覺得這個狀況是不停的在發生只是我們想要知道就是說如果民眾發生這樣的遇到這樣的狀況確實是不堪其擾\n這是確實在我們生活當中存在發生的事情當然我們第一時間一定是跟這個派出所報案就是說民眾遇到這樣的狀況要怎麼樣\n黃秀芳議員\n委員好\n根據我們新世代反毒策略我們目前為止我們警政署其實是一個友善通報網但是友善通報網是包含各個社區所以各個社區假如有反應的話我們警察會立即第一時間來做處理那假如是臨時的租戶的話我們就會把他趕出去假如是固定的租戶的話那依照那個大廈管理條例的話就來這邊來做處理\n接下來我也請教我們這兩個部會就是說我們現在目前的這個其實我在地方我都會一直聽到就是說我們現在目前的這個毒品防治的這個法好像就是很鬆很鬆的如果你持有的話\n持有這個三級或第四級的這個毒品這個處罰的門檻降為這個純值敬重5公克以上那如果說你是這個持有的話其實這個罪行還不是很大那現在新興毒品有的他是把毒放在這個咖啡包裡面那咖啡包裡面的這個含毒\n他不可能一次就放了5公克以上他可能就是持有好多包嘛所以為什麼說我們現在那個毒品的這個咖啡包會進到校園其實就很容易取得啊確實是很容易取得那像這樣子的話我們有沒有可能再去檢視一下目前的這個我們毒品危害防治條例的這個法則的部分有沒有可能再去做一個修改\n各位報告有關於這個毒咖啡包這一個部分就是它向來都是列我們高檢署統合六大系統查緝毒品的一個最主要的軸心的一個重點工作\n那有關於委員剛垂詢的這個刑度以及這個純子敬重其實我們已經降過幾次了有關於這個持有要處罰的這個部分純子敬重已經我記得就修毒品危害防治條例已經修了兩次還幾次我忘記了有足以的把這個持有的這個重量來降低入刑化是\n所以有沒有可能就是說如果針對你我剛剛講的那個咖啡包啊它裡面也許才含量可能是0.2、0.4公克嘛那也許它要拿了十幾包才有這個禁止、禁重是那個5公克啊對啊\n那他如果說拿了十幾包他可以給十幾個人使用欸那像這樣子的話如果如果他是持有然後又拿給別人用我覺得這個應該我覺得應該要去討論一下這個刑責是不是或者是罰則是不是要加重\n跟委員報告他其實拿了這麼多包可能我們在證據上會朝著販賣的一個來辦理販賣的話你三級還是四級他最近本行這五年以上有期徒刑這個就是重的刑度了那個就是我們在查緝面有關於證據收集我們會盡可能的有如果有販賣製造我們嚴厲的來查緝他\n新興毒品造成治安\n的所有人身的這個安全造成一個危害那我想請教就是說目前這個新興毒品可能以年輕就是年輕化那我們也看到這幾年就是因為吸食新興毒品然後死亡的這個案件也逐年在增加所以我想請教就是說\n類似這樣的狀況就是我們這個新興毒品我們講的有很多種那其中一種是那個彩虹煙彩虹煙其實年輕人尤其是學生校園學生因為這個是很容易取得而且它的這個製作簡單然後其實它也不貴重點它也不貴所以我們要怎麼去防範那\n尤其是年輕人這些新興毒品看到全部幾乎都是年輕人在使用那我不知道說你們這兩個部會未來要怎麼就是說第一個我覺得說罰則重是不是剛剛楊委員也有特別提到那是不是列為現在目前還列為這個第三第三級嗎\n根委報告因為新興毒品種類非常多那大部分大概是卡西同類那是卡西同類三級嘛那有關於這個像校園裡面兒少私用毒品的那一塊即使如果是私用一二級毒品的話那會歸到那個少年法庭那邊去阿如果是私用三四級毒品這個行政\n警政署稍微回應一下\n保護委員,那假如我們校園有查獲到毒品的話,我們會去溯源,那包括各種新興的毒品我們都會溯源,有溯源到校園的部分的話,我們就會結合教育部以及相關單位來聯合查處。\n最後我是真的要確實就是說我們的社會當中我剛剛講的那個大樓確實真的真實的存在那再來就是新興毒品真的現在年輕人取得就是要取得這種新興毒品確實是非常容易\n響鐘\n謝謝委員提醒 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.987 --> 00:31.123\n謝謝主席我們請法務部跟內政部法務部司長那內政部是吳警政監委員好司長好司長我今天就是我們委員會討論這個新興毒品那我想請教就是說其實在一般的大樓\n\n00:33.008 --> 00:49.461\n這個住宅區大樓大樓大樓有很多的民眾他們也會反應就是說因為大樓他可能是那個那個通風的關係管線的關係所以有時候這個上下樓或者是其他地方\n\n00:50.341 --> 00:50.561\n黃秀芳\n\n01:16.972 --> 01:30.484\n那像這樣子的話我們這個民眾要怎麼自我保護嗎總是我不能每天都聞到這樣的味道啊也許我們聞到就他認為說這個就是一個毒品的那個味道\n\n01:32.577 --> 01:47.272\n請警察來警察也不可能每戶去敲門然後去也許這個住戶知道說是哪一家可是如果你沒有搜索票的話你怎麼進到那個人家那個家裡面去那我請司長遇到這樣的問題怎麼辦\n\n01:48.773 --> 02:11.422\n各位報告這是偵查實務個案首先第一個當然他這個一定流程我聞到這味道感覺是怪怪的好像也是毒品那是不是毒品他可能也不知道像我自己也沒聞過我也搞不清楚那是不是毒品那這個時候如果覺得是毒品的話可能有人在吸毒他可能就直接跟派出所報案那派出所警員就會來訪查\n\n02:13.263 --> 02:36.990\n那因為他可能現在因為通風管線的關係這個可能這是一個查證的一個過程所以管委會的部分社區管委會的部分可能也要發揮一點功能那就我們偵查人員來講的話我大概你報案之後我大概開始收集證據那如果要請到所有票這一點我一定要\n\n02:37.850 --> 02:40.413\n現在目前確實有這樣的一個狀況發生那住在這個大樓裡面的民眾其實有\n\n03:02.094 --> 03:28.910\n他們也大約知道是哪一戶也許某一天這個人可能被警察可能帶到派出所去然後詢問之後也許他有吸毒吸毒完之後後來沒多久他又被交保就是後面可能就又被交保然後又回到社區裡面我覺得這個狀況是不停的在發生只是我們想要知道就是說如果民眾發生這樣的遇到這樣的狀況確實是不堪其擾\n\n03:32.753 --> 03:44.162\n這是確實在我們生活當中存在發生的事情當然我們第一時間一定是跟這個派出所報案就是說民眾遇到這樣的狀況要怎麼樣\n\n03:47.685 --> 03:47.725\n黃秀芳議員\n\n04:05.350 --> 04:05.450\n委員好\n\n04:31.622 --> 04:52.733\n根據我們新世代反毒策略我們目前為止我們警政署其實是一個友善通報網但是友善通報網是包含各個社區所以各個社區假如有反應的話我們警察會立即第一時間來做處理那假如是臨時的租戶的話我們就會把他趕出去假如是固定的租戶的話那依照那個大廈管理條例的話就來這邊來做處理\n\n04:57.715 --> 05:15.943\n接下來我也請教我們這兩個部會就是說我們現在目前的這個其實我在地方我都會一直聽到就是說我們現在目前的這個毒品防治的這個法好像就是很鬆很鬆的如果你持有的話\n\n05:17.283 --> 05:40.310\n持有這個三級或第四級的這個毒品這個處罰的門檻降為這個純值敬重5公克以上那如果說你是這個持有的話其實這個罪行還不是很大那現在新興毒品有的他是把毒放在這個咖啡包裡面那咖啡包裡面的這個含毒\n\n05:40.990 --> 06:05.628\n他不可能一次就放了5公克以上他可能就是持有好多包嘛所以為什麼說我們現在那個毒品的這個咖啡包會進到校園其實就很容易取得啊確實是很容易取得那像這樣子的話我們有沒有可能再去檢視一下目前的這個我們毒品危害防治條例的這個法則的部分有沒有可能再去做一個修改\n\n06:06.188 --> 06:20.517\n各位報告有關於這個毒咖啡包這一個部分就是它向來都是列我們高檢署統合六大系統查緝毒品的一個最主要的軸心的一個重點工作\n\n06:21.537 --> 06:48.684\n那有關於委員剛垂詢的這個刑度以及這個純子敬重其實我們已經降過幾次了有關於這個持有要處罰的這個部分純子敬重已經我記得就修毒品危害防治條例已經修了兩次還幾次我忘記了有足以的把這個持有的這個重量來降低入刑化是\n\n06:50.396 --> 07:06.790\n所以有沒有可能就是說如果針對你我剛剛講的那個咖啡包啊它裡面也許才含量可能是0.2、0.4公克嘛那也許它要拿了十幾包才有這個禁止、禁重是那個5公克啊對啊\n\n07:07.190 --> 07:24.478\n那他如果說拿了十幾包他可以給十幾個人使用欸那像這樣子的話如果如果他是持有然後又拿給別人用我覺得這個應該我覺得應該要去討論一下這個刑責是不是或者是罰則是不是要加重\n\n07:24.878 --> 07:46.184\n跟委員報告他其實拿了這麼多包可能我們在證據上會朝著販賣的一個來辦理販賣的話你三級還是四級他最近本行這五年以上有期徒刑這個就是重的刑度了那個就是我們在查緝面有關於證據收集我們會盡可能的有如果有販賣製造我們嚴厲的來查緝他\n\n07:50.165 --> 07:51.426\n新興毒品造成治安\n\n08:09.415 --> 08:30.851\n的所有人身的這個安全造成一個危害那我想請教就是說目前這個新興毒品可能以年輕就是年輕化那我們也看到這幾年就是因為吸食新興毒品然後死亡的這個案件也逐年在增加所以我想請教就是說\n\n08:32.292 --> 08:56.954\n類似這樣的狀況就是我們這個新興毒品我們講的有很多種那其中一種是那個彩虹煙彩虹煙其實年輕人尤其是學生校園學生因為這個是很容易取得而且它的這個製作簡單然後其實它也不貴重點它也不貴所以我們要怎麼去防範那\n\n08:58.875 --> 09:17.580\n尤其是年輕人這些新興毒品看到全部幾乎都是年輕人在使用那我不知道說你們這兩個部會未來要怎麼就是說第一個我覺得說罰則重是不是剛剛楊委員也有特別提到那是不是列為現在目前還列為這個第三第三級嗎\n\n09:19.532 --> 09:42.767\n根委報告因為新興毒品種類非常多那大部分大概是卡西同類那是卡西同類三級嘛那有關於這個像校園裡面兒少私用毒品的那一塊即使如果是私用一二級毒品的話那會歸到那個少年法庭那邊去阿如果是私用三四級毒品這個行政\n\n09:43.787 --> 09:45.289\n警政署稍微回應一下\n\n10:05.855 --> 10:19.159\n保護委員,那假如我們校園有查獲到毒品的話,我們會去溯源,那包括各種新興的毒品我們都會溯源,有溯源到校園的部分的話,我們就會結合教育部以及相關單位來聯合查處。\n\n10:22.337 --> 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