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00:01:10,118\n那當然目前大概我們現在聽起來他們面對的很多的問題包含不只是缺工然後還有長途運輸這個所謂一個勞基法的一個規定的問題甚至這個我們司機違規祭典在靠這個車的車是他們的財產他們也是滿腹的委屈甚至這個萬物皆漲他們運費不敢漲為什麼因為怕其他競爭者的銷價競爭之後沒有生意可以做\n\n4\n00:01:10,638 --> 00:01:24,246\n所以其實他們一直很想要找一個時間跟我們相關的單位來做一個對話也聽聽他們的滿腹的委屈還有一些政策面的一個檢討那我想部長跟局長這部分是不是有沒有機會能夠讓他們能夠來做一個對話的一個機會\n\n5\n00:01:28,341 --> 00:01:51,924\n這個可以啦我們跟業者之間的溝通跟互動我想公路局應該時常在做對沒有問題更限的運輸工會包括貨運、客運的話其實我們各地區的監理所站都有定期跟他們有做相關的溝通如果說有特別的需要比如說要包括他們的群聯會要跟公路局來做相關的一個建議的話我想我們都會非常歡迎\n\n6\n00:01:52,546 --> 00:02:06,251\n我想當然交通部是站在一個這個整個交通這個安全的一個整體的考量那當然我們許多不一樣的團體都有各自的一個陳情跟一個訴求那也希望我們有機會可以跟大貨車這個運輸公會來做一個對話這個沒問題\n\n7\n00:02:08,632 --> 00:02:37,458\n那有幾個問題要就交一下請我們部長跟局長來幫忙那今年7月份我召開一個會刊針對我們墾丁國家公園南灣的一個人行步道這個人行步道已經鋪了20幾年不只現在坑坑洞洞而且它因為缺乏一個排水溝的一個設施只要下雨就會積水那我想南灣是一個國際的觀光景點這問民不可看啦那請教一下部長跟局長\n\n8\n00:02:38,318 --> 00:03:04,633\n這部分自從我會刊之後目前有沒有最近的進度什麼時候可以來施工還是我跟委員報告委員會刊之後的話第一個就是說在經費上面沒有問題因為經費上面就是說我們行政院已經有核定一個永續提升人行安全的計畫所以我們經費沒有問題那人行道的設施的施作也沒有問題只是說因為當地南灣是屬於這個墾丁國家公園管理處\n\n9\n00:03:05,353 --> 00:03:26,313\n他在9月的時候其實9月23號其實整個他有提到就是說整個周邊南灣的他的公共設施他有做一些檢討那所以就是說我們在會確認就是說肯定國家公民管理處就是說對於這邊屬於我們人行步道他還有沒有其他建議啦如果說他沒有說特別需要我們在協助的部分我們就\n\n10\n00:03:27,213 --> 00:03:51,712\n這部分我想請部長幫忙因為就是因為我們發現到這必須要跨部會整合這個整個包含這個墾丁國家公園一些公共設施的問題包含墾丁大街未來要人車分道這些問題都必須要跨部會整合所以會有要求我們的內政部在9月份開的這個會議那具體的一些結論大概都有已經有一些共識那所以未來也希望\n\n11\n00:03:52,372 --> 00:04:08,380\n肯定不是只有這個洋傘之亂啊不是也只有一些被這個消費污名化那我覺得公路總局公路局還有我們交通部公共署我們都責無旁貸一起來重新振興我們恆春半島的觀光這點也麻煩部長跟局長我們加快腳步\n\n12\n00:04:10,161 --> 00:04:32,772\n對那第二個就是針對猴想每次風災我們就發現一個狀況像這次山坨颱風我們整個省道系統都不是秦島要不然就是支離破碎那當然我知道我們公路局在這個樹種的規劃上面當然有一些的選擇但是我們發現可能這些未來針對所謂的一個\n\n13\n00:04:33,952 --> 00:04:34,872\n這部分是不是可以請公眾總局來做一個檢討?\n\n14\n00:04:50,757 --> 00:05:16,548\n好報告委員這個部分我們會來做檢討不過我們這個部分大部分是配合農業部也跟農業部來請教說要種哪一些原生樹種這是第一個第二個種植的方案種植的方法怎麼樣才會穩固我們這個部分其實都是結合農業部一起在討論不過每次颱風我們就可以檢討一次啦有哪些路數是容易倒塌的那這個部分我們就來檢討說未來可能就不要用這樣的路數\n\n15\n00:05:17,088 --> 00:05:34,927\n因為我們管轄的路段相當的長有時候也造成我們這個開口企業如果沒有馬上去處理確實會造成很多的危險性這不能再麻煩我們部長跟局長的協助那另外針對我們屏東台17線臨邊路段有一個鎮安村這個地方我也有去會勘過\n\n16\n00:05:35,948 --> 00:06:00,225\n那因為這部分上下有的整治的部分牽扯到我們所謂的農水署也好還有包含大盤灣管理處這部分我們都已經協調完成但唯一的部分就是台17線的下面這個寒凍口徑太小了而且你上面宣洩不及到台17線很容易就造成一個淹水的一個情形這部分是不是請局長這邊可以要求馬上來趕快做處理\n\n17\n00:06:00,725 --> 00:06:23,216\n但是跟委員報告確實就是說因為整個的區域的排水它包括台17的上下游就像委員剛所提到的還有涉及到龍水署跟大鵬灣國家那個管理處那所以就是說上下游的處理跟配合我們這邊的一個航管的一個擴大它的一個排水量那屬於我們台17線的部分我們會來處理\n\n18\n00:06:24,436 --> 00:06:40,763\n對另外還有針對我們臨邊交通道下來接到我們台10級線系統的時候那邊也有一段滴瓦的地段也造成容易積水車沒路過啦這部分是不是請公務局來一併來趕快來做作為一個排水系統的一個檢討沒問題就這樣那這個部分我們再找時間趕快來會看一下\n\n19\n00:06:44,930 --> 00:07:05,000\n那另外我想這邊我們也要肯定我們公路局我們在台26線就是我們墾丁香蕉灣路段我們打造了一個全國第一個路線的一個廊道那也被譽為一個很有善的一個生態有溫度的一個幸福公園那甚至也是我們這個進入講這個景觀的一個這個大熱門的一個路段\n\n20\n00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:21,754\n那除了這個路段之外我們在車城、龜山、到福安橋這邊也有我們的一些我們的生態團體也有建議可以來做一個生態廊道那麼也是一個很豐富的一個生態資源這部分是不是可以請公務局來協助一下我們一起來努力\n\n21\n00:07:23,389 --> 00:07:45,543\n是,各位委員報告就是我們目前屬於自己省道台246的部分我們已經做了,把它抬高那委員所提到的這一個路段是屬於平152線是屬於這個鄉道啦那所以就是說這個公路系統在縣府這邊主管的話其實它有相關的這些的考量的話其實我們會用相關的一個計劃經費來協助他們\n\n22\n00:07:47,444 --> 00:08:09,865\n對我想因為我們有台26線很好的一個經驗然後以及我們整個就是每逢這個尤其暑假期間我們還有志工在那邊互卸管制這真的做得非常非常的好啦那我想未來也希望這個針對路線的安全給予一個最好的一個安全回家的一個路那我想剛剛我們很多的委員也提到所謂的一個外送的一個\n\n23\n00:08:11,306 --> 00:08:36,862\n運費的調整這些案子部長我知道您最近有跟消基會在做討論有沒有雜音目前是這樣之前是因為聯繫要開會的這個過程當中沒有聯繫好所以造成他們一些誤解我們陳局長也特別去拜會過消基會的董事長他們對這方面聽完我們的希望能夠透明化的原因之後其實他態度上也是相當贊成\n\n24\n00:08:38,163 --> 00:08:49,313\n那或許下禮拜三我們會有一個座談會我們已經約好了那消基會也會來參與那外送員的工會也會來參與業者也會來參與我們各方一起來做一個好好的協商跟討論\n\n25\n00:08:51,258 --> 00:09:11,356\n我想這個事情也是知識體大了是因為包含我們的政府也好我們的外送的一個業者還有我們的店家、外送員甚至消費者我們如果創造這個五贏的局面我想交通部也要責務旁貸了沒錯尤其這個在不管在每一個環節裡面怎麼樣去檢討這個可能出現的問題怎麼樣去務實地解決問題我想部長請部長這邊是我們先不要做\n\n26\n00:09:18,362 --> 00:09:28,102\n這是很好的一個服務但是造成一些消費者糾紛甚至造成店家一些負面的新聞總是都不是好事情這部分再請部長這邊能夠多用心這部分我們來努力謝謝謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3714\t6863\t謝謝主席 我們有請陳部長還有公務局陳局長陳公務局局長\n17990\t39346\t部長、局長早我想本席也有很多這個在從事這個長途運輸的一個朋友啦業者的朋友啦那當然從最近這幾年這個整個大環境的這個影響他們其實也是叫苦連天啦不敢挨啦因為他們不是只有考慮他們自己的生計還有會花這麼多錢都仰賴他們的這個生活啦\n42708\t70118\t那當然目前大概我們現在聽起來他們面對的很多的問題包含不只是缺工然後還有長途運輸這個所謂一個勞基法的一個規定的問題甚至這個我們司機違規祭典在靠這個車的車是他們的財產他們也是滿腹的委屈甚至這個萬物皆漲他們運費不敢漲為什麼因為怕其他競爭者的銷價競爭之後沒有生意可以做\n70638\t84246\t所以其實他們一直很想要找一個時間跟我們相關的單位來做一個對話也聽聽他們的滿腹的委屈還有一些政策面的一個檢討那我想部長跟局長這部分是不是有沒有機會能夠讓他們能夠來做一個對話的一個機會\n88341\t111924\t這個可以啦 我們跟業者之間的溝通跟互動我想公路局應該時常在做對 沒有問題 更限的運輸工會包括貨運、客運的話其實我們各地區的監理所站都有定期跟他們有做相關的溝通如果說有特別的需要 比如說要包括他們的群聯會要跟公路局來做相關的一個建議的話我想我們都會非常歡迎\n112546\t126251\t我想當然交通部是站在一個這個整個交通這個安全的一個整體的考量那當然我們許多不一樣的團體都有各自的一個陳情跟一個訴求那也希望我們有機會可以跟大貨車這個運輸公會來做一個對話這個沒問題\n128632\t157458\t那有幾個問題要就交一下請我們部長跟局長來幫忙那今年7月份我召開一個會刊針對我們墾丁國家公園南灣的一個人行步道這個人行步道已經鋪了20幾年不只現在坑坑洞洞而且它因為缺乏一個排水溝的一個設施只要下雨就會積水那我想南灣是一個國際的觀光景點這問民不可看啦那請教一下部長跟局長\n158318\t184633\t這部分自從我會刊之後目前有沒有最近的進度什麼時候可以來施工還是我跟委員報告委員會刊之後的話第一個就是說在經費上面沒有問題因為經費上面就是說我們行政院已經有核定一個永續提升人行安全的計畫所以我們經費沒有問題那人行道的設施的施作也沒有問題只是說因為當地南灣是屬於這個墾丁國家公園管理處\n185353\t206313\t他在9月的時候其實9月23號其實整個他有提到就是說整個周邊南灣的他的公共設施他有做一些檢討那所以就是說我們在會確認就是說肯定國家公民管理處就是說對於這邊屬於我們人行步道他還有沒有其他建議啦如果說他沒有說特別需要我們在協助的部分我們就\n207213\t231712\t這部分我想請部長幫忙因為就是因為我們發現到這必須要跨部會整合這個整個包含這個墾丁國家公園一些公共設施的問題包含墾丁大街未來要人車分道這些問題都必須要跨部會整合所以會有要求我們的內政部在9月份開的這個會議那具體的一些結論大概都有已經有一些共識那所以未來也希望\n232372\t248380\t肯定不是只有這個洋傘之亂啊不是也只有一些被這個消費污名化那我覺得公路總局公路局還有我們交通部公共署我們都責無旁貸一起來重新振興我們恆春半島的觀光這點也麻煩部長跟局長我們加快腳步\n250161\t272772\t對那第二個就是針對猴想每次風災我們就發現一個狀況像這次山坨颱風我們整個省道系統都不是秦島要不然就是支離破碎那當然我知道我們公路局在這個樹種的規劃上面當然有一些的選擇但是我們發現可能這些未來針對所謂的一個\n273952\t274872\t這部分是不是可以請公眾總局來做一個檢討?\n290757\t316548\t好 報告委員 這個部分我們會來做檢討 不過我們這個部分大部分是配合農業部也跟農業部來請教說要種哪一些原生樹種 這是第一個第二個種植的方案 種植的方法怎麼樣才會穩固我們這個部分其實都是結合農業部一起在討論不過每次颱風我們就可以檢討一次啦 有哪些路數是容易倒塌的那這個部分我們就來檢討說未來可能就不要用這樣的路數\n317088\t334927\t因為我們管轄的路段相當的長有時候也造成我們這個開口企業如果沒有馬上去處理確實會造成很多的危險性這不能再麻煩我們部長跟局長的協助那另外針對我們屏東台17線臨邊路段有一個鎮安村這個地方我也有去會勘過\n335948\t360225\t那因為這部分上下有的整治的部分牽扯到我們所謂的農水署也好還有包含大盤灣管理處這部分我們都已經協調完成但唯一的部分就是台17線的下面這個寒凍口徑太小了而且你上面宣洩不及到台17線很容易就造成一個淹水的一個情形這部分是不是請局長這邊可以要求馬上來趕快做處理\n360725\t383216\t但是跟委員報告確實就是說因為整個的區域的排水它包括台17的上下游就像委員剛所提到的還有涉及到龍水署跟大鵬灣國家那個管理處那所以就是說上下游的處理跟配合我們這邊的一個航管的一個擴大它的一個排水量那屬於我們台17線的部分我們會來處理\n384436\t400763\t對 另外還有針對我們臨邊交通道下來接到我們台10級線系統的時候那邊也有一段滴瓦的地段也造成容易積水車沒路過啦這部分是不是請公務局來一併來趕快來做作為一個排水系統的一個檢討沒問題就這樣 那這個部分我們再找時間趕快來會看一下\n404930\t425000\t那另外我想這邊我們也要肯定我們公路局我們在台26線就是我們墾丁香蕉灣路段我們打造了一個全國第一個路線的一個廊道那也被譽為一個很有善的一個生態有溫度的一個幸福公園那甚至也是我們這個進入講這個景觀的一個這個大熱門的一個路段\n425640\t441754\t那除了這個路段之外我們在車城、龜山、到福安橋這邊也有我們的一些我們的生態團體也有建議可以來做一個生態廊道那麼也是一個很豐富的一個生態資源這部分是不是可以請公務局來協助一下我們一起來努力\n443389\t465543\t是,各位委員報告就是我們目前屬於自己省道台246的部分我們已經做了,把它抬高那委員所提到的這一個路段是屬於平152線是屬於這個鄉道啦那所以就是說這個公路系統在縣府這邊主管的話其實它有相關的這些的考量的話其實我們會用相關的一個計劃經費來協助他們\n467444\t489865\t對我想因為我們有台26線很好的一個經驗然後以及我們整個就是每逢這個尤其暑假期間我們還有志工在那邊互卸管制這真的做得非常非常的好啦那我想未來也希望這個針對路線的安全給予一個最好的一個安全回家的一個路那我想剛剛我們很多的委員也提到所謂的一個外送的一個\n491306\t516862\t運費的調整這些案子部長我知道您最近有跟消基會在做討論有沒有雜音目前是這樣之前是因為聯繫要開會的這個過程當中沒有聯繫好所以造成他們一些誤解我們陳局長也特別去拜會過消基會的董事長他們對這方面聽完我們的希望能夠透明化的原因之後其實他態度上也是相當贊成\n518163\t529313\t那或許下禮拜三我們會有一個座談會我們已經約好了那消基會也會來參與那外送員的工會也會來參與業者也會來參與我們各方一起來做一個好好的協商跟討論\n531258\t551356\t我想這個事情也是知識體大了是因為包含我們的政府也好我們的外送的一個業者還有我們的店家、外送員甚至消費者我們如果創造這個五贏的局面我想交通部也要責務旁貸了沒錯尤其這個在不管在每一個環節裡面怎麼樣去檢討這個可能出現的問題怎麼樣去務實地解決問題我想部長請部長這邊是我們先不要做\n558362\t568102\t這是很好的一個服務但是造成一些消費者糾紛甚至造成店家一些負面的新聞總是都不是好事情這部分再請部長這邊能夠多用心這部分我們來努力謝謝謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席 我們有請陳部長還有公務局陳局長陳公務局局長\n部長、局長早我想本席也有很多這個在從事這個長途運輸的一個朋友啦業者的朋友啦那當然從最近這幾年這個整個大環境的這個影響他們其實也是叫苦連天啦不敢挨啦因為他們不是只有考慮他們自己的生計還有會花這麼多錢都仰賴他們的這個生活啦\n那當然目前大概我們現在聽起來他們面對的很多的問題包含不只是缺工然後還有長途運輸這個所謂一個勞基法的一個規定的問題甚至這個我們司機違規祭典在靠這個車的車是他們的財產他們也是滿腹的委屈甚至這個萬物皆漲他們運費不敢漲為什麼因為怕其他競爭者的銷價競爭之後沒有生意可以做\n所以其實他們一直很想要找一個時間跟我們相關的單位來做一個對話也聽聽他們的滿腹的委屈還有一些政策面的一個檢討那我想部長跟局長這部分是不是有沒有機會能夠讓他們能夠來做一個對話的一個機會\n這個可以啦 我們跟業者之間的溝通跟互動我想公路局應該時常在做對 沒有問題 更限的運輸工會包括貨運、客運的話其實我們各地區的監理所站都有定期跟他們有做相關的溝通如果說有特別的需要 比如說要包括他們的群聯會要跟公路局來做相關的一個建議的話我想我們都會非常歡迎\n我想當然交通部是站在一個這個整個交通這個安全的一個整體的考量那當然我們許多不一樣的團體都有各自的一個陳情跟一個訴求那也希望我們有機會可以跟大貨車這個運輸公會來做一個對話這個沒問題\n那有幾個問題要就交一下請我們部長跟局長來幫忙那今年7月份我召開一個會刊針對我們墾丁國家公園南灣的一個人行步道這個人行步道已經鋪了20幾年不只現在坑坑洞洞而且它因為缺乏一個排水溝的一個設施只要下雨就會積水那我想南灣是一個國際的觀光景點這問民不可看啦那請教一下部長跟局長\n這部分自從我會刊之後目前有沒有最近的進度什麼時候可以來施工還是我跟委員報告委員會刊之後的話第一個就是說在經費上面沒有問題因為經費上面就是說我們行政院已經有核定一個永續提升人行安全的計畫所以我們經費沒有問題那人行道的設施的施作也沒有問題只是說因為當地南灣是屬於這個墾丁國家公園管理處\n他在9月的時候其實9月23號其實整個他有提到就是說整個周邊南灣的他的公共設施他有做一些檢討那所以就是說我們在會確認就是說肯定國家公民管理處就是說對於這邊屬於我們人行步道他還有沒有其他建議啦如果說他沒有說特別需要我們在協助的部分我們就\n這部分我想請部長幫忙因為就是因為我們發現到這必須要跨部會整合這個整個包含這個墾丁國家公園一些公共設施的問題包含墾丁大街未來要人車分道這些問題都必須要跨部會整合所以會有要求我們的內政部在9月份開的這個會議那具體的一些結論大概都有已經有一些共識那所以未來也希望\n肯定不是只有這個洋傘之亂啊不是也只有一些被這個消費污名化那我覺得公路總局公路局還有我們交通部公共署我們都責無旁貸一起來重新振興我們恆春半島的觀光這點也麻煩部長跟局長我們加快腳步\n對那第二個就是針對猴想每次風災我們就發現一個狀況像這次山坨颱風我們整個省道系統都不是秦島要不然就是支離破碎那當然我知道我們公路局在這個樹種的規劃上面當然有一些的選擇但是我們發現可能這些未來針對所謂的一個\n這部分是不是可以請公眾總局來做一個檢討?\n好 報告委員 這個部分我們會來做檢討 不過我們這個部分大部分是配合農業部也跟農業部來請教說要種哪一些原生樹種 這是第一個第二個種植的方案 種植的方法怎麼樣才會穩固我們這個部分其實都是結合農業部一起在討論不過每次颱風我們就可以檢討一次啦 有哪些路數是容易倒塌的那這個部分我們就來檢討說未來可能就不要用這樣的路數\n因為我們管轄的路段相當的長有時候也造成我們這個開口企業如果沒有馬上去處理確實會造成很多的危險性這不能再麻煩我們部長跟局長的協助那另外針對我們屏東台17線臨邊路段有一個鎮安村這個地方我也有去會勘過\n那因為這部分上下有的整治的部分牽扯到我們所謂的農水署也好還有包含大盤灣管理處這部分我們都已經協調完成但唯一的部分就是台17線的下面這個寒凍口徑太小了而且你上面宣洩不及到台17線很容易就造成一個淹水的一個情形這部分是不是請局長這邊可以要求馬上來趕快做處理\n但是跟委員報告確實就是說因為整個的區域的排水它包括台17的上下游就像委員剛所提到的還有涉及到龍水署跟大鵬灣國家那個管理處那所以就是說上下游的處理跟配合我們這邊的一個航管的一個擴大它的一個排水量那屬於我們台17線的部分我們會來處理\n對 另外還有針對我們臨邊交通道下來接到我們台10級線系統的時候那邊也有一段滴瓦的地段也造成容易積水車沒路過啦這部分是不是請公務局來一併來趕快來做作為一個排水系統的一個檢討沒問題就這樣 那這個部分我們再找時間趕快來會看一下\n那另外我想這邊我們也要肯定我們公路局我們在台26線就是我們墾丁香蕉灣路段我們打造了一個全國第一個路線的一個廊道那也被譽為一個很有善的一個生態有溫度的一個幸福公園那甚至也是我們這個進入講這個景觀的一個這個大熱門的一個路段\n那除了這個路段之外我們在車城、龜山、到福安橋這邊也有我們的一些我們的生態團體也有建議可以來做一個生態廊道那麼也是一個很豐富的一個生態資源這部分是不是可以請公務局來協助一下我們一起來努力\n是,各位委員報告就是我們目前屬於自己省道台246的部分我們已經做了,把它抬高那委員所提到的這一個路段是屬於平152線是屬於這個鄉道啦那所以就是說這個公路系統在縣府這邊主管的話其實它有相關的這些的考量的話其實我們會用相關的一個計劃經費來協助他們\n對我想因為我們有台26線很好的一個經驗然後以及我們整個就是每逢這個尤其暑假期間我們還有志工在那邊互卸管制這真的做得非常非常的好啦那我想未來也希望這個針對路線的安全給予一個最好的一個安全回家的一個路那我想剛剛我們很多的委員也提到所謂的一個外送的一個\n運費的調整這些案子部長我知道您最近有跟消基會在做討論有沒有雜音目前是這樣之前是因為聯繫要開會的這個過程當中沒有聯繫好所以造成他們一些誤解我們陳局長也特別去拜會過消基會的董事長他們對這方面聽完我們的希望能夠透明化的原因之後其實他態度上也是相當贊成\n那或許下禮拜三我們會有一個座談會我們已經約好了那消基會也會來參與那外送員的工會也會來參與業者也會來參與我們各方一起來做一個好好的協商跟討論\n我想這個事情也是知識體大了是因為包含我們的政府也好我們的外送的一個業者還有我們的店家、外送員甚至消費者我們如果創造這個五贏的局面我想交通部也要責務旁貸了沒錯尤其這個在不管在每一個環節裡面怎麼樣去檢討這個可能出現的問題怎麼樣去務實地解決問題我想部長請部長這邊是我們先不要做\n這是很好的一個服務但是造成一些消費者糾紛甚至造成店家一些負面的新聞總是都不是好事情這部分再請部長這邊能夠多用心這部分我們來努力謝謝謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.714 --> 00:06.863\n謝謝主席我們有請陳部長還有公務局陳局長陳公務局局長\n\n00:17.990 --> 00:39.346\n部長、局長早我想本席也有很多這個在從事這個長途運輸的一個朋友啦業者的朋友啦那當然從最近這幾年這個整個大環境的這個影響他們其實也是叫苦連天啦不敢挨啦因為他們不是只有考慮他們自己的生計還有會花這麼多錢都仰賴他們的這個生活啦\n\n00:42.708 --> 01:10.118\n那當然目前大概我們現在聽起來他們面對的很多的問題包含不只是缺工然後還有長途運輸這個所謂一個勞基法的一個規定的問題甚至這個我們司機違規祭典在靠這個車的車是他們的財產他們也是滿腹的委屈甚至這個萬物皆漲他們運費不敢漲為什麼因為怕其他競爭者的銷價競爭之後沒有生意可以做\n\n01:10.638 --> 01:24.246\n所以其實他們一直很想要找一個時間跟我們相關的單位來做一個對話也聽聽他們的滿腹的委屈還有一些政策面的一個檢討那我想部長跟局長這部分是不是有沒有機會能夠讓他們能夠來做一個對話的一個機會\n\n01:28.341 --> 01:51.924\n這個可以啦我們跟業者之間的溝通跟互動我想公路局應該時常在做對沒有問題更限的運輸工會包括貨運、客運的話其實我們各地區的監理所站都有定期跟他們有做相關的溝通如果說有特別的需要比如說要包括他們的群聯會要跟公路局來做相關的一個建議的話我想我們都會非常歡迎\n\n01:52.546 --> 02:06.251\n我想當然交通部是站在一個這個整個交通這個安全的一個整體的考量那當然我們許多不一樣的團體都有各自的一個陳情跟一個訴求那也希望我們有機會可以跟大貨車這個運輸公會來做一個對話這個沒問題\n\n02:08.632 --> 02:37.458\n那有幾個問題要就交一下請我們部長跟局長來幫忙那今年7月份我召開一個會刊針對我們墾丁國家公園南灣的一個人行步道這個人行步道已經鋪了20幾年不只現在坑坑洞洞而且它因為缺乏一個排水溝的一個設施只要下雨就會積水那我想南灣是一個國際的觀光景點這問民不可看啦那請教一下部長跟局長\n\n02:38.318 --> 03:04.633\n這部分自從我會刊之後目前有沒有最近的進度什麼時候可以來施工還是我跟委員報告委員會刊之後的話第一個就是說在經費上面沒有問題因為經費上面就是說我們行政院已經有核定一個永續提升人行安全的計畫所以我們經費沒有問題那人行道的設施的施作也沒有問題只是說因為當地南灣是屬於這個墾丁國家公園管理處\n\n03:05.353 --> 03:26.313\n他在9月的時候其實9月23號其實整個他有提到就是說整個周邊南灣的他的公共設施他有做一些檢討那所以就是說我們在會確認就是說肯定國家公民管理處就是說對於這邊屬於我們人行步道他還有沒有其他建議啦如果說他沒有說特別需要我們在協助的部分我們就\n\n03:27.213 --> 03:51.712\n這部分我想請部長幫忙因為就是因為我們發現到這必須要跨部會整合這個整個包含這個墾丁國家公園一些公共設施的問題包含墾丁大街未來要人車分道這些問題都必須要跨部會整合所以會有要求我們的內政部在9月份開的這個會議那具體的一些結論大概都有已經有一些共識那所以未來也希望\n\n03:52.372 --> 04:08.380\n肯定不是只有這個洋傘之亂啊不是也只有一些被這個消費污名化那我覺得公路總局公路局還有我們交通部公共署我們都責無旁貸一起來重新振興我們恆春半島的觀光這點也麻煩部長跟局長我們加快腳步\n\n04:10.161 --> 04:32.772\n對那第二個就是針對猴想每次風災我們就發現一個狀況像這次山坨颱風我們整個省道系統都不是秦島要不然就是支離破碎那當然我知道我們公路局在這個樹種的規劃上面當然有一些的選擇但是我們發現可能這些未來針對所謂的一個\n\n04:33.952 --> 04:34.872\n這部分是不是可以請公眾總局來做一個檢討?\n\n04:50.757 --> 05:16.548\n好報告委員這個部分我們會來做檢討不過我們這個部分大部分是配合農業部也跟農業部來請教說要種哪一些原生樹種這是第一個第二個種植的方案種植的方法怎麼樣才會穩固我們這個部分其實都是結合農業部一起在討論不過每次颱風我們就可以檢討一次啦有哪些路數是容易倒塌的那這個部分我們就來檢討說未來可能就不要用這樣的路數\n\n05:17.088 --> 05:34.927\n因為我們管轄的路段相當的長有時候也造成我們這個開口企業如果沒有馬上去處理確實會造成很多的危險性這不能再麻煩我們部長跟局長的協助那另外針對我們屏東台17線臨邊路段有一個鎮安村這個地方我也有去會勘過\n\n05:35.948 --> 06:00.225\n那因為這部分上下有的整治的部分牽扯到我們所謂的農水署也好還有包含大盤灣管理處這部分我們都已經協調完成但唯一的部分就是台17線的下面這個寒凍口徑太小了而且你上面宣洩不及到台17線很容易就造成一個淹水的一個情形這部分是不是請局長這邊可以要求馬上來趕快做處理\n\n06:00.725 --> 06:23.216\n但是跟委員報告確實就是說因為整個的區域的排水它包括台17的上下游就像委員剛所提到的還有涉及到龍水署跟大鵬灣國家那個管理處那所以就是說上下游的處理跟配合我們這邊的一個航管的一個擴大它的一個排水量那屬於我們台17線的部分我們會來處理\n\n06:24.436 --> 06:40.763\n對另外還有針對我們臨邊交通道下來接到我們台10級線系統的時候那邊也有一段滴瓦的地段也造成容易積水車沒路過啦這部分是不是請公務局來一併來趕快來做作為一個排水系統的一個檢討沒問題就這樣那這個部分我們再找時間趕快來會看一下\n\n06:44.930 --> 07:05.000\n那另外我想這邊我們也要肯定我們公路局我們在台26線就是我們墾丁香蕉灣路段我們打造了一個全國第一個路線的一個廊道那也被譽為一個很有善的一個生態有溫度的一個幸福公園那甚至也是我們這個進入講這個景觀的一個這個大熱門的一個路段\n\n07:05.640 --> 07:21.754\n那除了這個路段之外我們在車城、龜山、到福安橋這邊也有我們的一些我們的生態團體也有建議可以來做一個生態廊道那麼也是一個很豐富的一個生態資源這部分是不是可以請公務局來協助一下我們一起來努力\n\n07:23.389 --> 07:45.543\n是,各位委員報告就是我們目前屬於自己省道台246的部分我們已經做了,把它抬高那委員所提到的這一個路段是屬於平152線是屬於這個鄉道啦那所以就是說這個公路系統在縣府這邊主管的話其實它有相關的這些的考量的話其實我們會用相關的一個計劃經費來協助他們\n\n07:47.444 --> 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比如說要包括他們的群聯會要跟公路局來做相關的一個建議的話我想我們都會非常歡迎"},{"start":112.546,"end":126.251,"text":"我想當然交通部是站在一個這個整個交通這個安全的一個整體的考量那當然我們許多不一樣的團體都有各自的一個陳情跟一個訴求那也希望我們有機會可以跟大貨車這個運輸公會來做一個對話這個沒問題"},{"start":128.632,"end":157.458,"text":"那有幾個問題要就交一下請我們部長跟局長來幫忙那今年7月份我召開一個會刊針對我們墾丁國家公園南灣的一個人行步道這個人行步道已經鋪了20幾年不只現在坑坑洞洞而且它因為缺乏一個排水溝的一個設施只要下雨就會積水那我想南灣是一個國際的觀光景點這問民不可看啦那請教一下部長跟局長"},{"start":158.318,"end":184.633,"text":"這部分自從我會刊之後目前有沒有最近的進度什麼時候可以來施工還是我跟委員報告委員會刊之後的話第一個就是說在經費上面沒有問題因為經費上面就是說我們行政院已經有核定一個永續提升人行安全的計畫所以我們經費沒有問題那人行道的設施的施作也沒有問題只是說因為當地南灣是屬於這個墾丁國家公園管理處"},{"start":185.353,"end":206.313,"text":"他在9月的時候其實9月23號其實整個他有提到就是說整個周邊南灣的他的公共設施他有做一些檢討那所以就是說我們在會確認就是說肯定國家公民管理處就是說對於這邊屬於我們人行步道他還有沒有其他建議啦如果說他沒有說特別需要我們在協助的部分我們就"},{"start":207.213,"end":231.712,"text":"這部分我想請部長幫忙因為就是因為我們發現到這必須要跨部會整合這個整個包含這個墾丁國家公園一些公共設施的問題包含墾丁大街未來要人車分道這些問題都必須要跨部會整合所以會有要求我們的內政部在9月份開的這個會議那具體的一些結論大概都有已經有一些共識那所以未來也希望"},{"start":232.372,"end":248.38,"text":"肯定不是只有這個洋傘之亂啊不是也只有一些被這個消費污名化那我覺得公路總局公路局還有我們交通部公共署我們都責無旁貸一起來重新振興我們恆春半島的觀光這點也麻煩部長跟局長我們加快腳步"},{"start":250.161,"end":272.772,"text":"對那第二個就是針對猴想每次風災我們就發現一個狀況像這次山坨颱風我們整個省道系統都不是秦島要不然就是支離破碎那當然我知道我們公路局在這個樹種的規劃上面當然有一些的選擇但是我們發現可能這些未來針對所謂的一個"},{"start":273.952,"end":274.872,"text":"這部分是不是可以請公眾總局來做一個檢討?"},{"start":290.757,"end":316.548,"text":"好 報告委員 這個部分我們會來做檢討 不過我們這個部分大部分是配合農業部也跟農業部來請教說要種哪一些原生樹種 這是第一個第二個種植的方案 種植的方法怎麼樣才會穩固我們這個部分其實都是結合農業部一起在討論不過每次颱風我們就可以檢討一次啦 有哪些路數是容易倒塌的那這個部分我們就來檢討說未來可能就不要用這樣的路數"},{"start":317.088,"end":334.927,"text":"因為我們管轄的路段相當的長有時候也造成我們這個開口企業如果沒有馬上去處理確實會造成很多的危險性這不能再麻煩我們部長跟局長的協助那另外針對我們屏東台17線臨邊路段有一個鎮安村這個地方我也有去會勘過"},{"start":335.948,"end":360.225,"text":"那因為這部分上下有的整治的部分牽扯到我們所謂的農水署也好還有包含大盤灣管理處這部分我們都已經協調完成但唯一的部分就是台17線的下面這個寒凍口徑太小了而且你上面宣洩不及到台17線很容易就造成一個淹水的一個情形這部分是不是請局長這邊可以要求馬上來趕快做處理"},{"start":360.725,"end":383.216,"text":"但是跟委員報告確實就是說因為整個的區域的排水它包括台17的上下游就像委員剛所提到的還有涉及到龍水署跟大鵬灣國家那個管理處那所以就是說上下游的處理跟配合我們這邊的一個航管的一個擴大它的一個排水量那屬於我們台17線的部分我們會來處理"},{"start":384.436,"end":400.763,"text":"對 另外還有針對我們臨邊交通道下來接到我們台10級線系統的時候那邊也有一段滴瓦的地段也造成容易積水車沒路過啦這部分是不是請公務局來一併來趕快來做作為一個排水系統的一個檢討沒問題就這樣 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