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00:01:31,375\n主要是我們70年的喬教那麼在馬來西亞培養了超過10萬的學生那麼這些留台的同學畢業後返回馬來西亞他們分別在各地組成了叫做留台同學會\n\n6\n00:01:42,981 --> 00:01:43,041\n李慧琼議員\n\n7\n00:01:59,854 --> 00:02:01,795\n為什麼特別會讓徐委員長特別說一下的原因是因為我想\n\n8\n00:02:28,028 --> 00:02:32,292\n現在過去大家可能對於僑委會的界定就是認為說這個僑民朋友在所在國但是現在其實會發現台商朋友也成為這個僑委會非常重要的一環那麼過去我主要呢這個暑假我比較多的時間花在歐洲所以剛剛講完了這個亞洲的部分我其實想回來的是看到我們目前歐洲的一個狀況我們來看下一頁\n\n9\n00:02:51,610 --> 00:03:17,512\n就是歐洲呢現在單單2024年歐洲的各國包括歐洲議會就多次挺台我這邊現在記錄上至少7到8次也就是我們現在才來到10月底已經有超過7到8次國際友人為我們發聲而我們知道我們的前總統蔡英文也剛從歐洲回來但是我們在歐洲現在所面臨的狀況我知道僑委會經費有限看下一張\n\n10\n00:03:19,383 --> 00:03:43,133\n那就是歐洲目前以我們海外的僑民在這5年我所看到的是歐洲他的增長率是最高的來到12.77%那麼這是僑委會給我的統計資訊要比亞洲美洲都來的高而大洋洲跟非洲是一種下滑的狀態但是我如果來看一下我們現在僑委會在112年的年報當中有美國有加拿大有亞洲\n\n11\n00:03:48,976 --> 00:04:13,074\n但是呢感覺上歐洲的關注度是不是比較少呢那麼其實這一次小英總統前往歐洲所展現出來不論是法國或者是歐洲議會對她的歡迎又或者是這一次我們多位委員到歐洲的感受就是歐洲這樣的一個新興的整個勢力當中她對於台灣的重視不言可喻尤其是今天這個法國的軍艦還通過台灣海峽這樣的事情\n\n12\n00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:30,627\n我們都可以充分的感受到就是歐洲現在對於僑委會來講是不是可以多放一點心思在這裡來看下一張就是目前我們不論是僑校的數量69所\n\n13\n00:04:32,828 --> 00:04:38,073\n又或者是我們在這整體的僑效的預算當中還有就是我們非常關注的就是我們現在歐洲所分配到的相關的這些僑務委員僑務秘書法國兩位德國兩位荷蘭一位英國一位那平均說你一個僑務人員要服務8800位的僑民在預算減少但是僑民增加那麼接下來到底我們在推廣歐洲事務商委員或者是\n\n14\n00:04:59,392 --> 00:04:59,572\n徐佳青報告\n\n15\n00:05:15,683 --> 00:05:23,325\n那麼這個部分我們是不是需要做一些整體的調整又或者是在新的年度當中有什麼新的計畫是跟委員報告我們除了剛剛呈現的資料說我們在歐洲目前13個國家有18所華語文學習中心幾乎每一個國家的首都都有1到2個不等的這個華語文學習中心之外\n\n16\n00:05:40,209 --> 00:05:40,309\n李卓人議員\n\n17\n00:05:55,885 --> 00:05:55,925\n主席\n\n18\n00:06:11,195 --> 00:06:11,495\n委員長林楚茵\n\n19\n00:06:36,866 --> 00:06:37,226\n林楚茵\n\n20\n00:07:07,126 --> 00:07:28,394\n因為現在就是說僑委會的職務某種時候他跟外交部其實有一些模糊的地帶啦那麼當然我們的外交預算相對的會比僑委會的預算要來得高一些也許兩個部會之間如何來做一些搭配跟合作其實我知道現在外管都做得非常好彼此有互補的狀況但是在這裡當然我也認為說這個兩個部會之間雖然是我很感謝外交部因為很多地方我們有派駐秘書都是我們外交同仁在協助我們僑務工作\n\n21\n00:07:36,637 --> 00:07:40,159\n提到的有關於就是企業到歐洲投資比如說像台積電下一張台積電他其實現在在歐洲的部分他也有一些相關的投資或者是布局其實我現在要請問的就是像這一次我有特別到德勒斯登\n\n22\n00:07:53,985 --> 00:08:02,013\n那麼當然比如說熊本啦美國的亞利桑那或是華盛頓等等這些地區現在我們的台積電都在佈局的同時其實德勒斯登現在也努力在建廠當中那麼其實不論是工程師或是前期的台灣的這些技術跟工程人員到了這些地區之後他們的包括工程師本人\n\n23\n00:08:14,324 --> 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主席邀請委員長委員長來慢慢來慢慢來沒有問題林委員早安委員長早喔我要首先呼應一下就是今天早上這個王定宇召委所提到的台商確實對於現在我們台灣來講不論是經濟日不落或者是台灣日不落或是世界的台灣都佔了非常重要的一個位子喔\n像過去我也是因為來到立法院那麼出席了好幾屆的台商活動我才感受到就是其實台商尤其是所展現的台灣的實力非常的重要所以說像這一次這個有關於馬來西亞這個台商會的這個重要的活動我也會認為說其實它沒有任何的顏色\n對,去年大院外委會組一團然後台商之友會\n主席主席主席\n主要是我們70年的喬教那麼在馬來西亞培養了超過10萬的學生那麼這些留台的同學畢業後返回馬來西亞他們分別在各地組成了叫做留台同學會\n李慧琼議員\n為什麼特別會讓徐委員長特別說一下的原因是因為我想\n現在過去大家可能對於僑委會的界定就是認為說這個僑民朋友在所在國但是現在其實會發現台商朋友也成為這個僑委會非常重要的一環那麼過去我主要呢這個暑假我比較多的時間花在歐洲所以剛剛講完了這個亞洲的部分我其實想回來的是看到我們目前歐洲的一個狀況我們來看下一頁\n就是歐洲呢現在單單2024年歐洲的各國包括歐洲議會就多次挺台我這邊現在記錄上至少7到8次也就是我們現在才來到10月底已經有超過7到8次國際友人為我們發聲而我們知道我們的前總統蔡英文也剛從歐洲回來但是我們在歐洲現在所面臨的狀況我知道僑委會經費有限看下一張\n那就是歐洲目前以我們海外的僑民在這5年我所看到的是歐洲他的增長率是最高的來到12.77%那麼這是僑委會給我的統計資訊要比亞洲美洲都來的高而大洋洲跟非洲是一種下滑的狀態但是我如果來看一下我們現在僑委會在112年的年報當中有美國有加拿大有亞洲\n但是呢感覺上歐洲的關注度是不是比較少呢那麼其實這一次小英總統前往歐洲所展現出來不論是法國或者是歐洲議會對她的歡迎又或者是這一次我們多位委員到歐洲的感受就是歐洲這樣的一個新興的整個勢力當中她對於台灣的重視不言可喻尤其是今天這個法國的軍艦還通過台灣海峽這樣的事情\n我們都可以充分的感受到就是歐洲現在對於僑委會來講是不是可以多放一點心思在這裡來看下一張就是目前我們不論是僑校的數量69所\n又或者是我們在這整體的僑效的預算當中還有就是我們非常關注的就是我們現在歐洲所分配到的相關的這些僑務委員僑務秘書法國兩位德國兩位荷蘭一位英國一位那平均說你一個僑務人員要服務8800位的僑民在預算減少但是僑民增加那麼接下來到底我們在推廣歐洲事務商委員或者是\n徐佳青報告\n那麼這個部分我們是不是需要做一些整體的調整又或者是在新的年度當中有什麼新的計畫是跟委員報告我們除了剛剛呈現的資料說我們在歐洲目前13個國家有18所華語文學習中心幾乎每一個國家的首都都有1到2個不等的這個華語文學習中心之外\n李卓人議員\n主席\n委員長林楚茵\n林楚茵\n因為現在就是說僑委會的職務某種時候他跟外交部其實有一些模糊的地帶啦那麼當然我們的外交預算相對的會比僑委會的預算要來得高一些也許兩個部會之間如何來做一些搭配跟合作其實我知道現在外管都做得非常好彼此有互補的狀況但是在這裡當然我也認為說這個兩個部會之間雖然是我很感謝外交部因為很多地方我們有派駐秘書都是我們外交同仁在協助我們僑務工作\n提到的有關於就是企業到歐洲投資比如說像台積電下一張台積電他其實現在在歐洲的部分他也有一些相關的投資或者是布局其實我現在要請問的就是像這一次我有特別到德勒斯登\n那麼當然比如說熊本啦美國的亞利桑那或是華盛頓等等這些地區現在我們的台積電都在佈局的同時其實德勒斯登現在也努力在建廠當中那麼其實不論是工程師或是前期的台灣的這些技術跟工程人員到了這些地區之後他們的包括工程師本人\n教育的資源相對的剛剛前面委員有都提到不是那麼的充足那麼在這個部分有沒有給予前期的協助跟幫忙\n我們規劃在德里斯登希望說包括柏林整個這個德東地區除了能夠在設立台灣華語文學習中心之外當地的橋團的組織我們也想辦法把它做起來那我們也會派我們的駐地秘書多加強在這一方面包括設立這個橋校讓這個engineer的家庭呢他們孩子在\n提供相關的資訊給這些第一批到德國去的engineer那德國因為還有一段時間他們今年8月才剛動工預期到2026年底會開始進行量產\n相關的規劃因為時間到了我們再請僑委會\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.329 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