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00:00:10,777\n謝謝主席有請部長請何部長\n\n2\n00:00:15,987 --> 00:00:42,394\n委員好部長好今天早上我有看到工商時報有一則新聞標題就是為了今天勞動部的業報我們的缺工專報那您提到說解決缺工要對症下藥不能只靠開放移工壓抑勞動條件等等我覺得您講的很有道理因為跟我心裡想的也一樣那為什麼我這樣說我們來看一下\n\n3\n00:00:43,354 --> 00:00:55,640\n主計總署一百一十二年的人力資源調查我們可以看到原住民族的勞動力參與率跟全體國人的平均看一下64.1%對59.2%\n\n4\n00:01:00,763 --> 00:01:20,973\n我可以說2.5%的原住民族人對於我國的勞動其實是很有貢獻的那我們進一步來看他說原住民從事的前五大行業營建製造餐飲住宿批發零售醫療保健及社工服務\n\n5\n00:01:22,094 --> 00:01:40,463\n尤其是營建工程原住民的參與率是18.01%高於全體國人的7.99%那相對的我們也來看一下我們提出的勞動部的專報裡面他說產業缺工的概況\n\n6\n00:01:41,443 --> 00:01:58,389\n制造業批發零售營建工程住宿餐飲醫療保健系社會工作服務業部長你看到這邊會不會覺得怎麼恰恰原住民從事的前五大行業跟我們勞動部說的缺工的五大\n\n7\n00:01:59,269 --> 00:02:25,295\n好像一模一樣所以在這個當中我就是今天想要請教一下部長是不是應該針對促進原住民就業來去做一個專案為什麼我這樣問因為我們看一下勞發署他有一個缺工就業獎勵這個其中你看一下身領的資格第一項他說受僱於同意3K產業僱主連續達30天以上\n\n8\n00:02:29,471 --> 00:02:50,323\n我想要跟部長說其實我們的族人看得到吃不到因為他不利於營造業其實我們都很清楚這一些族人營造業的工人他其實是跟著僱主走他不是跟著僱主走他是跟著工頭走所以他沒有辦法連續達30日以上\n\n9\n00:02:52,625 --> 00:03:21,564\n第2個他提到說每週工時達35小時以上一樣的概念他不是不想做工啊是因為沒有工可以給他做所以這個第一點跟第二點他比較類似坐在辦公室的那一種工作其實是不利於我們這些所謂的原住民投入的五大行業所以我為什麼要特別講就是原住民很願意工作對國家也很有貢獻\n\n10\n00:03:22,805 --> 00:03:41,176\n可是我們會發現好像針對他的獎勵沒有給他沒有給他那我們再看一下這個部分雖然如此齁你看雖然我們的勞動參與率就業率都比一般高了可是你看一下薪資薪資的差距卻高達將近一萬塊錢\n\n11\n00:03:43,097 --> 00:04:05,331\n所以我在這裡其實可能部長你已經清楚我想要講什麼就是針對工作時數未滿35小時的原住民就業者其實我們看一下他有將近一半的人他都說我有意願增加工時啊但是我們做這種工不見得天天都有工第二個這一些人又高達93%\n\n12\n00:04:07,813 --> 00:04:35,893\n他說原因是什麼當然是為了增加收入啊所以原住民其實是很願意工作很願意投入勞動力但是他們也很希望他們的收入可以增加所以我才會在這個地方就這個問題來請部長可不可以幫個忙就是原住民有這種工時不足非典型勞動的形態那怎麼樣透過這種缺工獎勵讓我們的原住民族人願意投入更多的勞力這是\n\n13\n00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:51,583\n好來是謝謝委員的這樣子的提醒很好就是那個您看到的那個缺工獎勵那個是針對製造業是那當然我們原住民的朋友他在這個投入營造業方面他是比較激動的彈性的這個我們來檢討調整看能不能也對給他們誘因\n\n14\n00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:56,907\n我國全體國人一致了。\n\n15\n00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:36,974\n就是逐年趨緩然後現在趨於一致那也特別謝謝勞動部就是願意來催生公立的原住民族就業服務中心目前已經有6個縣市參與那這個部分呢其實原民會他們也願意漸漸的救他們過去因為沒有公立的原住民救福中心所以原民會呢有用就業貸金轉過來的就業基金他們有去辦一個所謂的救福員的服務人員\n\n16\n00:05:41,556 --> 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