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00:00:34,211\n陳委員好院長午安那院長我想跟你討論一下這兩天颱風我相信院長都非常關心各地的災情在今年9月的時候這個惠德隧道院長你有去考察你還記得嗎是而且我知道其實院長從上任以來因為0403花蓮正災\n\n3\n00:00:36,172 --> 00:00:58,900\n委員長,你不只去考察交通,你還去各個面向去認識花蓮,包含地方創生、青年創業,還有教育文化,還有非常多基礎建設的工作。我在這裡要代表花蓮的鄉親感謝院長,但是我也想要跟院長澄清在昨天的颱風,我們來看一下花蓮發生了什麼事情。就是您曾經去過的惠德隧道口,在這一次的\n\n4\n00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,521\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。（陳培瑜\n\n5\n00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:43,629\n交通的部分等下請部長來聲明我先向委員報告這次的颱風兩次到應變中心我兩次都特別提醒劉世芳部長指揮官對於花東的這個交通一定要促請地方政府\n\n6\n00:01:44,022 --> 00:01:44,302\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n\n7\n00:02:03,517 --> 00:02:04,038\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間\n\n8\n00:02:21,514 --> 00:02:45,055\n兩千平方米的這個砂石土石流下來那我們正在努力當中大概明天中午就可以輕易完成不過因為公路跟鐵路在蘇花這一段確實是中斷的所以我們在今天早上就已經啟動了這個輸運的計畫所以我們今天在下午的這個4點半已經偵派了一班的這個班機用空運的方式來增加這個空運的輸運量\n\n9\n00:02:45,615 --> 00:02:49,776\n一般可以在400多個人,這個部分也已經啟動。另外陸運的部分,因為我們這一次除了颱風之外昨天晚上凌晨大概12點多,在台東跟花蓮的那一段\n\n10\n00:03:11,704 --> 00:03:36,722\n也因為地震我們的鐵軌有一些錯斷或者是有些變形這個部分我們也去巡軌過了所以會中斷一段時間大概在今天的下午差不多6點可以完成在完成之前我們今天早上也啟動輸運計畫也就是說這一段的鐵軌雖然往南不能通但是我們用公路的方式來接駁從花蓮接駁到玉里\n\n11\n00:03:37,262 --> 00:04:05,585\n讓他們可以再讓旅客跟這個鄉親可以在御里搭火車再走南回到西部這個部分也已經啟動那另外也跟委員報告我們的蘇花的鐵路雖然是中斷的本來跟我們說明天的中午希望能夠明天的早上希望能夠搶通但有個好消息剛剛台鐵給我跟我說這個同仁非常的努力在今天下午的4點半在蘇花的這一段的台鐵的鐵路已經搶通了已經搶通了\n\n12\n00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:21,384\n那公路的部分就像委員您這個照片的部分在明天的中午也會搶通也就是說我們在整體輸運的部分在這次的颱風其實都已經啟動了所以如果我們花蓮的鄉親要到西部來我們現在都有很多的方案可以協助\n\n13\n00:04:22,202 --> 00:04:50,788\n看起來部長您非常的清楚的回應所以我要再一次以花蓮鄉親的身份謝謝部長可是我要提醒部長我剛聽到台鐵的同仁積極搶通他們應該會有適當的加班費或是相當的福利政策吧因為屢次只要有相關的風災或是震災其實第一線基層的工作人員真的都非常辛苦這部分我就快速請部長承諾也會對第一線的工作同仁做出相對應的福利回饋\n\n14\n00:04:51,328 --> 00:04:54,750\n那不過聽起來花蓮每次遇到災情就得這樣做,但是未來交通部有沒有什麼任何新的規劃來回應鄉親們對於交通的需求?\n\n15\n00:05:12,157 --> 00:05:37,965\n報告委員從2016年民進黨執政一直到現在我們已經執行完成還有就是未來正在執行的當中我們總共投入了3745億的這個交通預算在整個花東地區那當然我們整個國家的政策在花東地區的這個輸運來講的話主要是以鐵路為主那院長在上週也過去看了這個鐵路的雙軌跟電氣化花東的部分鐵路雙軌電氣化\n\n16\n00:05:42,728 --> 00:06:06,668\n三千七百四十五億我們會持續來推進那未來比較重要的是院長所去看的這個鐵軌的這個雙軌跟電氣化的部分除此之外還有就是我們花東縱谷的這個安全景觀大道的這個拓寬計畫總共三百多億我們正在執行當中還有就是花蓮的鄉親非常關注蘇花這個路廊要更安全\n\n17\n00:06:07,148 --> 00:06:34,073\n我們有一個這個蘇花的這個安全道路提升計畫也就是蘇花鞍那這個部分也得到了行政院的這個原則上的同意原則上的支持那這個部分交通部明年也有一個新的計畫總共提撥了5000多萬要做一個前置的作業那現在是因為預算還沒有過不然這個部分應該總共會有1000億左右的這個預算如果可以通過預算的話我們明年就可以開始來動\n\n18\n00:06:35,503 --> 00:07:01,634\n下一張投影片也就是說就算在不是民進黨執政的縣市尤其在花蓮長年以來如果我沒有記錯的話我的小孩現在18歲將近20多年其實都不是民進黨執政但是我們依然花了非常多的預算包含來年你們還要規劃有前導計畫還有花東的300多億這個部分我們希望預算過關之後我們可以一起為花蓮的鄉親努力也要拜託部長跟院長好嗎\n\n19\n00:07:02,774 --> 00:07:19,373\n委員報告,行政院一向不會以政黨的執政來作為施政的優先順序。花東地區當然這次颱風受災情形嚴重,但明天我如果天候允許或克服總統困難,我明天應該要到蘭嶼跟綠島去。\n\n20\n00:07:20,933 --> 00:07:22,014\n中生教育整體佔了\n\n21\n00:07:46,047 --> 00:08:10,564\n整個教育部的預算裡面2.2%也就是80億那我要先感謝教育部在今年的預算比起去年的預算還多了278億也就是說我們台灣對於教育是重視的可是在終身教育這一塊我想要跟院長如實的報告目前我們在第一線所遇到的困境那這個困境我覺得我們需要非常非常多的討論我們來看一下下一頁\n\n22\n00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:28,696\n在教育部的預算書裡面呢在我左手邊列的這些全部都是教育部的終身教育重大施政經費必須要去顧及的項目包含國家圖書館這些館舍可是光是這些卡了終身教育的經費很多很多很多當然這些館也很重要\n\n23\n00:08:29,216 --> 00:08:32,621\n三點八一還要扣掉補助給地方政府的家庭教育中心也就是我們本部在中央\n\n24\n00:08:47,660 --> 00:09:09,475\n可用的家庭教育預算其實只剩下五、六千萬我這樣的計算應該是正確的我想要跟部長也跟院長報告來下一頁我們在家庭教育法裡面看到中央必須有所阻責而且做的事情非常非常多我就不一再贅述甚至我們因為家庭教育法我們還有正式編制的家庭教育中心\n\n25\n00:09:11,337 --> 00:09:28,927\n家庭教育到底為什麼重要?其實今年全教總也有在呼籲,非常多校園事件家長必須擔負起責任,但我必須要幫家長跟院長還有部長澄清。在這個世代,可能很多人當了爸爸媽媽都還沒有辦法意識到自己是需要學習家庭教育的。\n\n26\n00:09:29,287 --> 00:09:43,590\n但如果我們台灣明明有了家庭教育法也有了家庭教育中心為什麼我們沒有辦法積極的提供給爸爸媽媽更多協助如果爸爸媽媽長好了其實孩子們就好了我相信院長跟部長你們自己身為父親一定都很有感覺\n\n27\n00:09:44,511 --> 00:10:05,291\n下一頁,我在非常多次的質詢或者是在委員會的討論,其實我都花了很多力氣,包含不要打小孩的正向教養,包含我們很在意的親子共讀,之前也跟院長討論了用閱讀對抗3C,或是良好的親子互動,或是性別平權,各式各樣的家長服務,一直都是我很在意的議題,而這些其實都是家庭教育的氛圍,\n\n28\n00:10:05,891 --> 00:10:32,902\n需要用中央家庭教育的經費或者是教育部補助給各個地方縣市的家庭教育中心他們在辦的課程必須要想辦法去完成這些我所說的還有更多我還來不及提出來的所以我想要請教部長或院長當我們制定了家庭教育法而且我們在22個縣市都有家庭教育中心他們也確實拿到了教育部的補助但是看起來近年來很多人在呼籲\n\n29\n00:10:33,717 --> 00:11:03,153\n家庭教育中心或是家庭教育法或者是教育部到底要怎麼樣支持家長完整的學會一個好的家庭教育讓他們協助他們的孩子走進校園或者是面對更多身心健康的議題情緒的困擾3C的議題的時候心裡面會有所本部長謝謝委員關心確實家庭的功能如果能夠發揮我相信每一個家庭他會有一個非常健康非常幸福的發展包含\n\n30\n00:11:03,629 --> 00:11:03,909\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n\n31\n00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:39,925\n責無旁貸的因為我們很清楚各個家庭各個地方縣市的一個家庭他事實上都是在各個縣市的一個所有的一個居民那我們怎麼樣結合地方包括這一個地方的許多的社區資源\n\n32\n00:11:40,936 --> 00:11:56,902\n我其實也跟委員報告就像我們最近一直在鼓吹我事實上也一直在談的一個那個SEL我們有許多的民間的團體我們學校怎麼樣這個透過這個家庭教育中心教育基礎透過家庭教育中心\n\n33\n00:11:57,362 --> 00:11:57,743\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。．陳培瑜\n\n34\n00:12:13,695 --> 00:12:15,117\n我相信這都是我們現在在未來即將要在各地方縣市交易局\n\n35\n00:12:34,958 --> 00:12:35,899\n有越來越多的一些科學研究的證據裡邊\n\n36\n00:13:03,255 --> 00:13:15,402\n怎麼讓我們的年輕世代的這些這個家庭能夠理解到這個3C的使用對小孩子他可能造成更多的一些負面的情緒緊張壓力焦慮\n\n37\n00:13:17,728 --> 00:13:44,936\n等等優異這些的一個影響所以我想這個都是我們整體在未來我們希望已經都責成我們這一個不僅是這一個國教署這一個我們終身教育師從這一個家庭教育裡面來切入我想我們會全面的來做也希望在未來能夠給新世代的這個年輕朋友不管這一個大人跟這個小孩學生能夠有一個更好的一個\n\n38\n00:13:46,092 --> 00:14:07,065\n家庭教育的一個功能的展現跟一個發展的一個空間好謝謝部長我時間有限但是我還是留了很多時間讓部長回應我發現部長你開始知道了很多第一線我們在教育現場基層所遇到的問題而那可能原本是您在大學的領域所不熟悉的所以我非常感謝部長從你剛剛講了非常多細的事情包括你都還講出SEL了\n\n39\n00:14:08,146 --> 00:14:30,061\n所以我非常期待在後續很多跟第一線教師第一線家長或者甚至跟孩子們的合作當中我們真的可以看到教育部願意在家庭教育這件事情以國家的高度以行政院的高度給予家長們支持跟協助讓更多家長知道我生了小孩我怎麼養小孩因為這才有可能\n\n40\n00:14:30,541 --> 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蓮的鄉親要到西部來我們現在都有很多的方案可以協助\n看起來部長您非常的清楚的回應所以我要再一次以花蓮鄉親的身份謝謝部長可是我要提醒部長我剛聽到台鐵的同仁積極搶通他們應該會有適當的加班費或是相當的福利政策吧因為屢次只要有相關的風災或是震災其實第一線基層的工作人員真的都非常辛苦這部分我就快速請部長承諾也會對第一線的工作同仁做出相對應的福利回饋\n那不過聽起來花蓮每次遇到災情就得這樣做,但是未來交通部有沒有什麼任何新的規劃來回應鄉親們對於交通的需求?\n報告委員從2016年民進黨執政一直到現在我們已經執行完成還有就是未來正在執行的當中我們總共投入了3745億的這個交通預算在整個花東地區那當然我們整個國家的政策在花東地區的這個輸運來講的話主要是以鐵路為主那院長在上週也過去看了這個鐵路的雙軌跟電氣化花東的部分鐵路雙軌電氣化\n三千七百四十五億我們會持續來推進那未來比較重要的是院長所去看的這個鐵軌的這個雙軌跟電氣化的部分除此之外還有就是我們花東縱谷的這個安全景觀大道的這個拓寬計畫總共三百多億我們正在執行當中還有就是花蓮的鄉親非常關注蘇花這個路廊要更安全\n我們有一個這個蘇花的這個安全道路提升計畫也就是蘇花鞍那這個部分也得到了行政院的這個原則上的同意原則上的支持那這個部分交通部明年也有一個新的計畫總共提撥了5000多萬要做一個前置的作業那現在是因為預算還沒有過不然這個部分應該總共會有1000億左右的這個預算如果可以通過預算的話我們明年就可以開始來動\n下一張投影片也就是說就算在不是民進黨執政的縣市尤其在花蓮長年以來如果我沒有記錯的話我的小孩現在18歲將近20多年其實都不是民進黨執政但是我們依然花了非常多的預算包含來年你們還要規劃有前導計畫還有花東的300多億這個部分我們希望預算過關之後我們可以一起為花蓮的鄉親努力也要拜託部長跟院長好嗎\n委員報告,行政院一向不會以政黨的執政來作為施政的優先順序。花東地區當然這次颱風受災情形嚴重,但明天我如果天候允許或克服總統困難,我明天應該要到蘭嶼跟綠島去。\n中生教育整體佔了\n整個教育部的預算裡面2.2%也就是80億那我要先感謝教育部在今年的預算比起去年的預算還多了278億也就是說我們台灣對於教育是重視的可是在終身教育這一塊我想要跟院長如實的報告目前我們在第一線所遇到的困境那這個困境我覺得我們需要非常非常多的討論我們來看一下下一頁\n在教育部的預算書裡面呢在我左手邊列的這些全部都是教育部的終身教育重大施政經費必須要去顧及的項目包含國家圖書館這些館舍可是光是這些卡了終身教育的經費很多很多很多當然這些館也很重要\n三點八一還要扣掉補助給地方政府的家庭教育中心也就是我們本部在中央\n可用的家庭教育預算其實只剩下五、六千萬我這樣的計算應該是正確的我想要跟部長也跟院長報告來下一頁我們在家庭教育法裡面看到中央必須有所阻責而且做的事情非常非常多我就不一再贅述甚至我們因為家庭教育法我們還有正式編制的家庭教育中心\n家庭教育到底為什麼重要?其實今年全教總也有在呼籲,非常多校園事件家長必須擔負起責任,但我必須要幫家長跟院長還有部長澄清。在這個世代,可能很多人當了爸爸媽媽都還沒有辦法意識到自己是需要學習家庭教育的。\n但如果我們台灣明明有了家庭教育法也有了家庭教育中心為什麼我們沒有辦法積極的提供給爸爸媽媽更多協助如果爸爸媽媽長好了其實孩子們就好了我相信院長跟部長你們自己身為父親一定都很有感覺\n下一頁,我在非常多次的質詢或者是在委員會的討論,其實我都花了很多力氣,包含不要打小孩的正向教養,包含我們很在意的親子共讀,之前也跟院長討論了用閱讀對抗3C,或是良好的親子互動,或是性別平權,各式各樣的家長服務,一直都是我很在意的議題,而這些其實都是家庭教育的氛圍,\n需要用中央家庭教育的經費或者是教育部補助給各個地方縣市的家庭教育中心他們在辦的課程必須要想辦法去完成這些我所說的還有更多我還來不及提出來的所以我想要請教部長或院長當我們制定了家庭教育法而且我們在22個縣市都有家庭教育中心他們也確實拿到了教育部的補助但是看起來近年來很多人在呼籲\n家庭教育中心或是家庭教育法或者是教育部到底要怎麼樣支持家長完整的學會一個好的家庭教育讓他們協助他們的孩子走進校園或者是面對更多身心健康的議題情緒的困擾3C的議題的時候心裡面會有所本部長謝謝委員關心確實家庭的功能如果能夠發揮我相信每一個家庭他會有一個非常健康非常幸福的發展包含\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n責無旁貸的因為我們很清楚各個家庭各個地方縣市的一個家庭他事實上都是在各個縣市的一個所有的一個居民那我們怎麼樣結合地方包括這一個地方的許多的社區資源\n我其實也跟委員報告就像我們最近一直在鼓吹我事實上也一直在談的一個那個SEL我們有許多的民間的團體我們學校怎麼樣這個透過這個家庭教育中心教育基礎透過家庭教育中心\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。．陳培瑜\n我相信這都是我們現在在未來即將要在各地方縣市交易局\n有越來越多的一些科學研究的證據裡邊\n怎麼讓我們的年輕世代的這些這個家庭能夠理解到這個3C的使用對小孩子他可能造成更多的一些負面的情緒緊張壓力焦慮\n等等優異這些的一個影響所以我想這個都是我們整體在未來我們希望已經都責成我們這一個不僅是這一個國教署這一個我們終身教育師從這一個家庭教育裡面來切入我想我們會全面的來做也希望在未來能夠給新世代的這個年輕朋友不管這一個大人跟這個小孩學生能夠有一個更好的一個\n家庭教育的一個功能的展現跟一個發展的一個空間好謝謝部長我時間有限但是我還是留了很多時間讓部長回應我發現部長你開始知道了很多第一線我們在教育現場基層所遇到的問題而那可能原本是您在大學的領域所不熟悉的所以我非常感謝部長從你剛剛講了非常多細的事情包括你都還講出SEL了\n所以我非常期待在後續很多跟第一線教師第一線家長或者甚至跟孩子們的合作當中我們真的可以看到教育部願意在家庭教育這件事情以國家的高度以行政院的高度給予家長們支持跟協助讓更多家長知道我生了小孩我怎麼養小孩因為這才有可能\n謝謝委員\n好,謝謝陳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.652 --> 00:07.094\n謝謝副院長,有請卓院長\n\n00:18.101 --> 00:34.211\n陳委員好院長午安那院長我想跟你討論一下這兩天颱風我相信院長都非常關心各地的災情在今年9月的時候這個惠德隧道院長你有去考察你還記得嗎是而且我知道其實院長從上任以來因為0403花蓮正災\n\n00:36.172 --> 00:58.900\n委員長,你不只去考察交通,你還去各個面向去認識花蓮,包含地方創生、青年創業,還有教育文化,還有非常多基礎建設的工作。我在這裡要代表花蓮的鄉親感謝院長,但是我也想要跟院長澄清在昨天的颱風,我們來看一下花蓮發生了什麼事情。就是您曾經去過的惠德隧道口,在這一次的\n\n00:59.600 --> 01:00.521\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。（陳培瑜\n\n01:27.930 --> 01:43.629\n交通的部分等下請部長來聲明我先向委員報告這次的颱風兩次到應變中心我兩次都特別提醒劉世芳部長指揮官對於花東的這個交通一定要促請地方政府\n\n01:44.022 --> 01:44.302\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n\n02:03.517 --> 02:04.038\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間\n\n02:21.514 --> 02:45.055\n兩千平方米的這個砂石土石流下來那我們正在努力當中大概明天中午就可以輕易完成不過因為公路跟鐵路在蘇花這一段確實是中斷的所以我們在今天早上就已經啟動了這個輸運的計畫所以我們今天在下午的這個4點半已經偵派了一班的這個班機用空運的方式來增加這個空運的輸運量\n\n02:45.615 --> 02:49.776\n一般可以在400多個人,這個部分也已經啟動。另外陸運的部分,因為我們這一次除了颱風之外昨天晚上凌晨大概12點多,在台東跟花蓮的那一段\n\n03:11.704 --> 03:36.722\n也因為地震我們的鐵軌有一些錯斷或者是有些變形這個部分我們也去巡軌過了所以會中斷一段時間大概在今天的下午差不多6點可以完成在完成之前我們今天早上也啟動輸運計畫也就是說這一段的鐵軌雖然往南不能通但是我們用公路的方式來接駁從花蓮接駁到玉里\n\n03:37.262 --> 04:05.585\n讓他們可以再讓旅客跟這個鄉親可以在御里搭火車再走南回到西部這個部分也已經啟動那另外也跟委員報告我們的蘇花的鐵路雖然是中斷的本來跟我們說明天的中午希望能夠明天的早上希望能夠搶通但有個好消息剛剛台鐵給我跟我說這個同仁非常的努力在今天下午的4點半在蘇花的這一段的台鐵的鐵路已經搶通了已經搶通了\n\n04:05.945 --> 04:21.384\n那公路的部分就像委員您這個照片的部分在明天的中午也會搶通也就是說我們在整體輸運的部分在這次的颱風其實都已經啟動了所以如果我們花蓮的鄉親要到西部來我們現在都有很多的方案可以協助\n\n04:22.202 --> 04:50.788\n看起來部長您非常的清楚的回應所以我要再一次以花蓮鄉親的身份謝謝部長可是我要提醒部長我剛聽到台鐵的同仁積極搶通他們應該會有適當的加班費或是相當的福利政策吧因為屢次只要有相關的風災或是震災其實第一線基層的工作人員真的都非常辛苦這部分我就快速請部長承諾也會對第一線的工作同仁做出相對應的福利回饋\n\n04:51.328 --> 04:54.750\n那不過聽起來花蓮每次遇到災情就得這樣做,但是未來交通部有沒有什麼任何新的規劃來回應鄉親們對於交通的需求?\n\n05:12.157 --> 05:37.965\n報告委員從2016年民進黨執政一直到現在我們已經執行完成還有就是未來正在執行的當中我們總共投入了3745億的這個交通預算在整個花東地區那當然我們整個國家的政策在花東地區的這個輸運來講的話主要是以鐵路為主那院長在上週也過去看了這個鐵路的雙軌跟電氣化花東的部分鐵路雙軌電氣化\n\n05:42.728 --> 06:06.668\n三千七百四十五億我們會持續來推進那未來比較重要的是院長所去看的這個鐵軌的這個雙軌跟電氣化的部分除此之外還有就是我們花東縱谷的這個安全景觀大道的這個拓寬計畫總共三百多億我們正在執行當中還有就是花蓮的鄉親非常關注蘇花這個路廊要更安全\n\n06:07.148 --> 06:34.073\n我們有一個這個蘇花的這個安全道路提升計畫也就是蘇花鞍那這個部分也得到了行政院的這個原則上的同意原則上的支持那這個部分交通部明年也有一個新的計畫總共提撥了5000多萬要做一個前置的作業那現在是因為預算還沒有過不然這個部分應該總共會有1000億左右的這個預算如果可以通過預算的話我們明年就可以開始來動\n\n06:35.503 --> 07:01.634\n下一張投影片也就是說就算在不是民進黨執政的縣市尤其在花蓮長年以來如果我沒有記錯的話我的小孩現在18歲將近20多年其實都不是民進黨執政但是我們依然花了非常多的預算包含來年你們還要規劃有前導計畫還有花東的300多億這個部分我們希望預算過關之後我們可以一起為花蓮的鄉親努力也要拜託部長跟院長好嗎\n\n07:02.774 --> 07:19.373\n委員報告,行政院一向不會以政黨的執政來作為施政的優先順序。花東地區當然這次颱風受災情形嚴重,但明天我如果天候允許或克服總統困難,我明天應該要到蘭嶼跟綠島去。\n\n07:20.933 --> 07:22.014\n中生教育整體佔了\n\n07:46.047 --> 08:10.564\n整個教育部的預算裡面2.2%也就是80億那我要先感謝教育部在今年的預算比起去年的預算還多了278億也就是說我們台灣對於教育是重視的可是在終身教育這一塊我想要跟院長如實的報告目前我們在第一線所遇到的困境那這個困境我覺得我們需要非常非常多的討論我們來看一下下一頁\n\n08:11.324 --> 08:28.696\n在教育部的預算書裡面呢在我左手邊列的這些全部都是教育部的終身教育重大施政經費必須要去顧及的項目包含國家圖書館這些館舍可是光是這些卡了終身教育的經費很多很多很多當然這些館也很重要\n\n08:29.216 --> 08:32.621\n三點八一還要扣掉補助給地方政府的家庭教育中心也就是我們本部在中央\n\n08:47.660 --> 09:09.475\n可用的家庭教育預算其實只剩下五、六千萬我這樣的計算應該是正確的我想要跟部長也跟院長報告來下一頁我們在家庭教育法裡面看到中央必須有所阻責而且做的事情非常非常多我就不一再贅述甚至我們因為家庭教育法我們還有正式編制的家庭教育中心\n\n09:11.337 --> 09:28.927\n家庭教育到底為什麼重要?其實今年全教總也有在呼籲,非常多校園事件家長必須擔負起責任,但我必須要幫家長跟院長還有部長澄清。在這個世代,可能很多人當了爸爸媽媽都還沒有辦法意識到自己是需要學習家庭教育的。\n\n09:29.287 --> 09:43.590\n但如果我們台灣明明有了家庭教育法也有了家庭教育中心為什麼我們沒有辦法積極的提供給爸爸媽媽更多協助如果爸爸媽媽長好了其實孩子們就好了我相信院長跟部長你們自己身為父親一定都很有感覺\n\n09:44.511 --> 10:05.291\n下一頁,我在非常多次的質詢或者是在委員會的討論,其實我都花了很多力氣,包含不要打小孩的正向教養,包含我們很在意的親子共讀,之前也跟院長討論了用閱讀對抗3C,或是良好的親子互動,或是性別平權,各式各樣的家長服務,一直都是我很在意的議題,而這些其實都是家庭教育的氛圍,\n\n10:05.891 --> 10:32.902\n需要用中央家庭教育的經費或者是教育部補助給各個地方縣市的家庭教育中心他們在辦的課程必須要想辦法去完成這些我所說的還有更多我還來不及提出來的所以我想要請教部長或院長當我們制定了家庭教育法而且我們在22個縣市都有家庭教育中心他們也確實拿到了教育部的補助但是看起來近年來很多人在呼籲\n\n10:33.717 --> 11:03.153\n家庭教育中心或是家庭教育法或者是教育部到底要怎麼樣支持家長完整的學會一個好的家庭教育讓他們協助他們的孩子走進校園或者是面對更多身心健康的議題情緒的困擾3C的議題的時候心裡面會有所本部長謝謝委員關心確實家庭的功能如果能夠發揮我相信每一個家庭他會有一個非常健康非常幸福的發展包含\n\n11:03.629 --> 11:03.909\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n\n11:22.148 --> 11:39.925\n責無旁貸的因為我們很清楚各個家庭各個地方縣市的一個家庭他事實上都是在各個縣市的一個所有的一個居民那我們怎麼樣結合地方包括這一個地方的許多的社區資源\n\n11:40.936 --> 11:56.902\n我其實也跟委員報告就像我們最近一直在鼓吹我事實上也一直在談的一個那個SEL我們有許多的民間的團體我們學校怎麼樣這個透過這個家庭教育中心教育基礎透過家庭教育中心\n\n11:57.362 --> 11:57.743\n二、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。．陳培瑜\n\n12:13.695 --> 12:15.117\n我相信這都是我們現在在未來即將要在各地方縣市交易局\n\n12:34.958 --> 12:35.899\n有越來越多的一些科學研究的證據裡邊\n\n13:03.255 --> 13:15.402\n怎麼讓我們的年輕世代的這些這個家庭能夠理解到這個3C的使用對小孩子他可能造成更多的一些負面的情緒緊張壓力焦慮\n\n13:17.728 --> 13:44.936\n等等優異這些的一個影響所以我想這個都是我們整體在未來我們希望已經都責成我們這一個不僅是這一個國教署這一個我們終身教育師從這一個家庭教育裡面來切入我想我們會全面的來做也希望在未來能夠給新世代的這個年輕朋友不管這一個大人跟這個小孩學生能夠有一個更好的一個\n\n13:46.092 --> 14:07.065\n家庭教育的一個功能的展現跟一個發展的一個空間好謝謝部長我時間有限但是我還是留了很多時間讓部長回應我發現部長你開始知道了很多第一線我們在教育現場基層所遇到的問題而那可能原本是您在大學的領域所不熟悉的所以我非常感謝部長從你剛剛講了非常多細的事情包括你都還講出SEL了\n\n14:08.146 --> 14:30.061\n所以我非常期待在後續很多跟第一線教師第一線家長或者甚至跟孩子們的合作當中我們真的可以看到教育部願意在家庭教育這件事情以國家的高度以行政院的高度給予家長們支持跟協助讓更多家長知道我生了小孩我怎麼養小孩因為這才有可能\n\n14:30.541 --> 14:30.561\n謝謝委員\n\n14:57.171 --> 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