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00:02:38,667\n你告訴你的委員會還要討論什麼我不知道報告委員我們已經收到醫院嘛醫院這一邊的文那我們會用收到文沒有用啊你要答應我啊好不好醫化基金怎麼處理因為我們通常跟委員報告就是那個要動用到醫化基金的話我們有一個醫化基金審議委員會那我們目前已經那個在排那個委員的可出席時間已經在11月底您是市長是不是\n\n7\n00:02:40,428 --> 00:03:07,165\n我們去跟你什麼委員會去討論事情太遙遠了啦,你知道嗎?我也不曉得你們成員是誰?因為他必須要有一個預算的來源啊我問我的兄弟啊,邱部長比較快啦,你知道嗎?預算來源你全國的部立醫院有150間的嗎?你講給我聽為什麼我們要講這個?我最近才去落成這個澎湖醫院的醫院他是\n\n8\n00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:15,543\n一百二十八期一百二十八期淘汰了我找楊耀委員來質詢你喔楊耀委員去那邊很高興\n\n9\n00:03:16,926 --> 00:03:44,451\n因為他配合AI所以其實是非常的清楚然後效果也非常好是新的喔他換掉原來是60次切的嘛所以因為他的價錢其實是沒關係我改天找癌藥委員質詢你他一定會要個640切的你放心沒問題沒問題因為他他去看了以後他覺得很滿意很滿意喔那個就是你改天看病跑到馬祖來看我保證有個790切我跟你講\n\n10\n00:03:46,570 --> 00:03:54,081\n那個我馬祖現在的是幾千?一百五十接一百五十接快幾年了已經十幾年了\n\n11\n00:03:58,379 --> 00:03:58,599\n你也答應我了\n\n12\n00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:25,006\n賴總統到金門去,他說我們對離島居民的醫療一定要提升\n\n13\n00:04:39,642 --> 00:05:07,954\n我們有緊急醫療後送金門現在有部立醫院對不對?他緊急醫療後送的人員是我們的差不多10倍送的更多我們用直升機送他用運輸機送西凹山洞送整個裡面都是所以這個部立醫院有部立醫院水準那我們連鄉縣長部民進黨的連鄉縣長部提出來說要部立醫院部長你的看法怎麼樣?\n\n14\n00:05:09,094 --> 00:05:10,248\n要不要給我們一個不立院?\n\n15\n00:05:12,245 --> 00:05:38,392\n部立醫院這個問題以前討論過啦後來好像縣政府那邊也不放掉啊他還是要縣立醫院啊誰不放掉?不會啊你如果給我部立醫院給我30億、50億多一個神經那顆、神經外科、心臟那顆多50個醫生把金門醫院改製成部立醫院嗎?還是另外?因為他早就部立啦澎湖也部立啊\n\n16\n00:05:39,352 --> 00:06:06,170\n我要改部例嗎?我跟你評估,至少30億,跑不掉。你要蓋病床、病房、設備、神經內科、神經外科、心臟內科、心臟外科這些統統都要配備。當然我們人數很少,一個月可能一兩個人。這些醫生平常也可以給他一點福利去釣魚,他可以去釣魚。\n\n17\n00:06:07,884 --> 00:06:28,195\n是不是這樣?事實上就如此我朋友到馬祖去行為醫療都順便打網球我都怕馬祖的地方還可以打網球對啊所以是不是達到成立需要成立部立院是值得討論的我想部長你重視這個問題有機會部裡面去討論一下好不好?如果成立部立院我\n\n18\n00:06:30,980 --> 00:06:46,265\n我跟委員報告部立醫院所有的醫療人員都是我的好朋友所以我們都很清楚他們的努力有時候還要到其他的島去做很多的公共衛生各方面的醫療真的令人非常感併\n\n19\n00:06:48,820 --> 00:07:02,289\n你稍微提升一下醫療的等級好不好?這個我們一定遵守當時我們一起在討論的事情那你今天長照師有沒有來我不知道長照師長照師沒有長照師我們要4900坪的土地要蓋4900坪然後你們答應給我們100床我們的造價跟台灣的建築費用\n\n20\n00:07:15,431 --> 00:07:36,810\n這個1月算特殊建築嘛,對不對?我們一坪要27萬,台灣只要十幾萬,一坪27萬還沒有人要蓋喔?在台灣這邊還有黑道的回扣、白道的回扣,我們回扣都沒有,縣長要去跪求他們來蓋。沒有人要來蓋啊,缺工缺料。\n\n21\n00:07:40,364 --> 00:07:58,428\n這個延遲完成驗收的風險太大太大了所以他們商人要精打細算一瓶要27萬那你們現在說很像講說一瓶一瓶多少錢啊你們一瓶十幾萬給我們100間只給我們4億很像那100床100床的面積啊我們的需求是38瓶一個床要38瓶\n\n22\n00:08:06,328 --> 00:08:32,586\n你們常道是提出來說一床27坪,這個差距很大。我說你部長是不是請你特別重視一下,因為時間的關係。報告委員,我們一定把你的所有的需求,我們相關的團隊,再度來好好的針對你現在提出來的來好好的研究。我們的交情我不會擔心。\n\n23\n00:08:34,212 --> 00:08:40,077\n我是擔心什麼呢?你回去以後就把我忘了?永遠不會忘記你,我在你的鄰居當了8年,沒有聞到你的體味,聞到你的煙味沒有沒有,這裡不能講這個吧\n\n24\n00:08:52,529 --> 00:09:21,285\n我最近都在適當的場所對啦就是說我們接觸的非常頻繁啦所以感謝您對馬祖人民的我也感佩啦真的是對馬祖人民部長以前跟我在立法院是我們是鄰居啦我們感情非常好沒有因為黨派的問題嘛部長我也拜託好不好這個640間一定要幫我完成任務第一個第二個長照師的床位啊病床啊\n\n25\n00:09:22,632 --> 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--> 00:31.047\n謝謝主席,是不是請部長?委員好部長好你是我的兄弟這首歌你會不會唱?你是我的兄弟我講這句話是希望部長把我們馬祖的每一個鄉親都當作你的親人我一向都是這種情懷這樣齁?\n\n00:33.257 --> 00:58.567\n因為早上我林淑芬委員質詢到急診室的狀況我也非常感慨我弟弟的小孩肺發炎去臺大醫院暫留了多少天你知道嗎?7天7天才進入病房因為你當部長我不好意思再麻煩你所以我們也不想用特權那另外我就想請問部長\n\n01:01.984 --> 01:29.224\n790切的斷層掃描你做過沒有?640我為什麼跟你講790你知道嗎?你看馬祖是落後地區嗎?馬祖是不是落後地區?馬祖絕對不是落後地區我們做完150切的電腦斷層然後呢?拿過來給醫生看模糊不清不清楚再做一次做多少?做640切\n\n01:30.933 --> 01:53.534\n不是兩個加起來790切嗎?我們做X光照一次啊,就已經那個輻射就已經不得了了。你看做多好吃。所以部長,我想之前跟你討論過,640切的電腦斷層給我們一部好不好?你看所有台灣的部立醫院有150切的嗎?\n\n01:55.731 --> 02:08.609\n你家人去買東西都是買最好的電器用品嘛,怎麼會買最爛的勒?現在台灣醫學已經發達到這種地步了,是不是?所以我昨天詢問我們衛生局,他說委員會在討論\n\n02:10.287 --> 02:38.667\n你告訴你的委員會還要討論什麼我不知道報告委員我們已經收到醫院嘛醫院這一邊的文那我們會用收到文沒有用啊你要答應我啊好不好醫化基金怎麼處理因為我們通常跟委員報告就是那個要動用到醫化基金的話我們有一個醫化基金審議委員會那我們目前已經那個在排那個委員的可出席時間已經在11月底您是市長是不是\n\n02:40.428 --> 03:07.165\n我們去跟你什麼委員會去討論事情太遙遠了啦,你知道嗎?我也不曉得你們成員是誰?因為他必須要有一個預算的來源啊我問我的兄弟啊,邱部長比較快啦,你知道嗎?預算來源你全國的部立醫院有150間的嗎?你講給我聽為什麼我們要講這個?我最近才去落成這個澎湖醫院的醫院他是\n\n03:09.147 --> 03:15.543\n一百二十八期一百二十八期淘汰了我找楊耀委員來質詢你喔楊耀委員去那邊很高興\n\n03:16.926 --> 03:44.451\n因為他配合AI所以其實是非常的清楚然後效果也非常好是新的喔他換掉原來是60次切的嘛所以因為他的價錢其實是沒關係我改天找癌藥委員質詢你他一定會要個640切的你放心沒問題沒問題因為他他去看了以後他覺得很滿意很滿意喔那個就是你改天看病跑到馬祖來看我保證有個790切我跟你講\n\n03:46.570 --> 03:54.081\n那個我馬祖現在的是幾千?一百五十接一百五十接快幾年了已經十幾年了\n\n03:58.379 --> 03:58.599\n你也答應我了\n\n04:23.664 --> 04:25.006\n賴總統到金門去,他說我們對離島居民的醫療一定要提升\n\n04:39.642 --> 05:07.954\n我們有緊急醫療後送金門現在有部立醫院對不對?他緊急醫療後送的人員是我們的差不多10倍送的更多我們用直升機送他用運輸機送西凹山洞送整個裡面都是所以這個部立醫院有部立醫院水準那我們連鄉縣長部民進黨的連鄉縣長部提出來說要部立醫院部長你的看法怎麼樣?\n\n05:09.094 --> 05:10.248\n要不要給我們一個不立院?\n\n05:12.245 --> 05:38.392\n部立醫院這個問題以前討論過啦後來好像縣政府那邊也不放掉啊他還是要縣立醫院啊誰不放掉?不會啊你如果給我部立醫院給我30億、50億多一個神經那顆、神經外科、心臟那顆多50個醫生把金門醫院改製成部立醫院嗎?還是另外?因為他早就部立啦澎湖也部立啊\n\n05:39.352 --> 06:06.170\n我要改部例嗎?我跟你評估,至少30億,跑不掉。你要蓋病床、病房、設備、神經內科、神經外科、心臟內科、心臟外科這些統統都要配備。當然我們人數很少,一個月可能一兩個人。這些醫生平常也可以給他一點福利去釣魚,他可以去釣魚。\n\n06:07.884 --> 06:28.195\n是不是這樣?事實上就如此我朋友到馬祖去行為醫療都順便打網球我都怕馬祖的地方還可以打網球對啊所以是不是達到成立需要成立部立院是值得討論的我想部長你重視這個問題有機會部裡面去討論一下好不好?如果成立部立院我\n\n06:30.980 --> 06:46.265\n我跟委員報告部立醫院所有的醫療人員都是我的好朋友所以我們都很清楚他們的努力有時候還要到其他的島去做很多的公共衛生各方面的醫療真的令人非常感併\n\n06:48.820 --> 07:02.289\n你稍微提升一下醫療的等級好不好?這個我們一定遵守當時我們一起在討論的事情那你今天長照師有沒有來我不知道長照師長照師沒有長照師我們要4900坪的土地要蓋4900坪然後你們答應給我們100床我們的造價跟台灣的建築費用\n\n07:15.431 --> 07:36.810\n這個1月算特殊建築嘛,對不對?我們一坪要27萬,台灣只要十幾萬,一坪27萬還沒有人要蓋喔?在台灣這邊還有黑道的回扣、白道的回扣,我們回扣都沒有,縣長要去跪求他們來蓋。沒有人要來蓋啊,缺工缺料。\n\n07:40.364 --> 07:58.428\n這個延遲完成驗收的風險太大太大了所以他們商人要精打細算一瓶要27萬那你們現在說很像講說一瓶一瓶多少錢啊你們一瓶十幾萬給我們100間只給我們4億很像那100床100床的面積啊我們的需求是38瓶一個床要38瓶\n\n08:06.328 --> 08:32.586\n你們常道是提出來說一床27坪,這個差距很大。我說你部長是不是請你特別重視一下,因為時間的關係。報告委員,我們一定把你的所有的需求,我們相關的團隊,再度來好好的針對你現在提出來的來好好的研究。我們的交情我不會擔心。\n\n08:34.212 --> 08:40.077\n我是擔心什麼呢?你回去以後就把我忘了?永遠不會忘記你,我在你的鄰居當了8年,沒有聞到你的體味,聞到你的煙味沒有沒有,這裡不能講這個吧\n\n08:52.529 --> 09:21.285\n我最近都在適當的場所對啦就是說我們接觸的非常頻繁啦所以感謝您對馬祖人民的我也感佩啦真的是對馬祖人民部長以前跟我在立法院是我們是鄰居啦我們感情非常好沒有因為黨派的問題嘛部長我也拜託好不好這個640間一定要幫我完成任務第一個第二個長照師的床位啊病床啊\n\n09:22.632 --> 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醫院有沒有，即使在臺灣的醫院恐怕也……"],["陳委員雪生：部長，我再跟你講，賴總統到金門去，他說我們對離島居民的醫療一定要提升，我們有緊急後送，金門現在有部立醫院，對不對？"],["邱部長泰源：是。"],["陳委員雪生：它緊急醫療後送的人員差不多是我們的十倍，送得更多，我們用直昇機送，它用運輸機C-130送，整個裡面都是，所以部立醫院有部立醫院的水準。民進黨的連江縣黨部提出來說要部立醫院，部長，你的看法怎樣？要不要給我們一個部立醫院？"],["邱部長泰源：這個問題以前討論過，後來縣政府方面也不放掉，它還是要縣立醫院……"],["陳委員雪生：誰不放掉？"],["邱部長泰源：縣政府那邊……"],["陳委員雪生：不會啊！如果給我部立醫院，給我30億、50億，多一個神經內科、神經外科、心臟內科、心臟外科，多10個醫生……"],["邱部長泰源：你是說額外，還是把金門醫院改制成部立醫院嗎？還是另外？"],["陳委員雪生：金門早就部立啦，澎湖也部立啊……"],["邱部長泰源：我說錯了，是連江啦……"],["陳委員雪生：我們馬祖是縣立啊！"],["邱部長泰源：縣立啦！"],["陳委員雪生：你要改部立嗎？我跟你評估，至少30億跑不掉，你要蓋病床、病房設備，然後神經內科、神經外科、心臟內科、心臟外科這些通通都要配備，當然我們人數很少啦，一個月可能一、兩個人吧，這些醫生平常也可以給他一點福利，去釣魚啊，他可以去釣魚，是不是這樣？事實上就如此嘛！"],["邱部長泰源：我到馬祖去巡迴醫療都順便打網球，馬祖的地方還可以打網球……"],["陳委員雪生：對啊，所以是不是達到需要成立部立醫院是值得討論的，部長，你重視這個問題，有機會部裡面去討論一下，好不好？如果成立部立醫院，我雙手雙腳贊成，我怎麼會不要呢？"],["邱部長泰源：我跟委員報告，部立醫院所有的醫療人員都是我的好朋友啦！"],["陳委員雪生：對啊。"],["邱部長泰源：所以我們都很清楚他們的努力，有時候還要到其他的島去做很多的公共衛生、各方面的醫療，真的令人非常感佩。"],["陳委員雪生：部長，馬祖既然那麼落後，你稍微提升一下醫療的等級嘛，好不好？"],["邱部長泰源：這個我們一定遵守當時我們一起在討論……"],["陳委員雪生：今天長照司有沒有來？我不知道。"],["邱部長泰源：不好意思，今天的主題剛好……"],["陳委員雪生：沒關係，我們要蓋4,900坪的土地，你們答應給我們100床，我們的造價跟臺灣的建築費用……醫院算特殊建築，對不對？"],["邱部長泰源：對。"],["陳委員雪生：我們一坪要27萬，臺灣只要十幾萬，一坪27萬還沒有人要蓋。在臺灣這邊還有黑道的回扣、白道的回扣，我們連回扣都沒有，縣長還要去跪求他們來蓋，沒有人要來蓋呀，缺工、缺料，延遲完成驗收的風險太大、太大了，所以他們商人要精打細算，一坪要27萬，你們現在講說一坪多少錢？你們說一坪十幾萬，給我們100間，只給我們4億，關於100床的面積，我們的需求是一個床要38坪，你們長照司提出來說一床27坪，這個差距很大耶，部長，是不是請你特別重視一下？因為時間的關係……"],["邱部長泰源：報告委員，我們一定把你所有的需求……相關的團隊再度針對你現在提出來的好好地來研究……"],["陳委員雪生：我們的交情，我不會擔心啦，我是擔心什麼呢？你回去以後就把我忘了。"],["邱部長泰源：永遠不會忘記、永遠不會忘記，我當了你的鄰居八年，沒有聞到你的體味，聞到你的煙味，是不是……"],["陳委員雪生：沒有、沒有，這裡也不能講這個吧！我最近都在適當的場所……"],["邱部長泰源：對啦，就是說其實我們接觸得非常頻繁，所以感謝您對馬祖人民的照顧，我也感佩啦，真的是對馬祖人民很照顧。"],["陳委員雪生：部長，嚴格來說，在立法院我們是鄰居啦，我們感情非常好，沒有因為黨派的問題嘛，部長，我也拜託，好不好？640切，一定要幫我完成任務，這是第一個；第二個，長照司的床位、病床，病床的坪數還有經費，最近要審查了，大概……"],["邱部長泰源：我們會儘量來溝通、來爭取。"],["陳委員雪生：請你再提醒他們一下，好不好？部長，我祝你身體健康、精神愉快，謝謝。"],["邱部長泰源：好，謝謝委員。"],["陳委員雪生：好，謝謝主席。"],["主席：好，謝謝陳雪生委員，真的，馬祖真的是很需要啦，我有去過好幾次，那邊真的是條件不好。部長，你就答應他就好了，你是在？"],["邱部長泰源：我不知道有沒有錢，有錢當然沒問題。"],["陳委員雪生：不要把我忘了。"],["主席：好，我們繼續請王育敏委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":272,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-26-7","speakers":["蘇清泉","陳昭姿","陳菁徽","林月琴","廖偉翔","邱鎮軍","涂權吉","王正旭","鍾佳濱","林國成","楊瓊瓔","林淑芬","賴士葆","黃秀芳","陳雪生","王育敏","劉建國","牛煦庭","楊曜","陳瑩","黃國昌","盧縣一"],"page_start":199,"meetingDate":["2024-11-04"],"gazette_id":"1139301","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1139301_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、繼續處理中華民國113年度中央政府總預算有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結報告案1案；二、邀\n請衛生福利部部長針對「社區精神病患照護優化」進行專題報告，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1139301_00003"}}}