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00:01:42,367\n在這邊真的很誠懇的要拜託部長就是我們鄉親的期待因為這個屏東不是只有解決交通的問題他牽扯觀光的層面、產業的層面還有文化教育諸多的層面你觀光不一樣,這些東西很難到位這我想部長最清楚那我們也很期待我們就真的每一個階段要有每一個階段的進展\n\n6\n00:01:43,848 --> 00:01:44,509\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n7\n00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:19,164\n這個署長最喜歡講的微笑曲線那署長我想從我們那個出國的人數的對比那我們這個國內旅遊的一個對比真的是一個很強烈的一個落差那\n\n8\n00:02:21,546 --> 00:02:38,383\n從這個出國人次的一千多萬到現在我們入境才六百多萬那觀光署這邊對整個策略上的思考上到底有沒有出現什麼樣的問題可不可以請部長跟署長做一個答覆我跟委員簡單的報告一下\n\n9\n00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:54,730\n目前來看我們都是一個年度一個年度在做整體檢討那今年度的部分大概有分兩部分一個就是可控的因素一個是不可控的因素因為在做檢討的時候本來就是需要這樣子做說明的\n\n10\n00:02:55,330 --> 00:03:14,913\n那有些我們還是可以繼續努力的部分原則上在海外的部分還是無路其發因為我們覺得推廣會跟這個旅展的參與還有這些重要的景點或是重要的這個所謂的轉運站的行銷還是廣告還是很重要然後再加上社群\n\n11\n00:03:15,774 --> 00:03:40,870\n那另外一個部分就是真的國旅這個部分因為確實疫情之後解封之後這個國人比較熱愛旅遊都是往國外走那尤其是這個匯率差或是是有些特定的譬如說越南的復國島這些它的團價都比較便宜所以反而會鼓勵了國人一些往外旅遊的一個意願\n\n12\n00:03:42,651 --> 00:04:03,740\n但是我們國內的部分還是可以強化的就是說我們發現22個縣市政府尤其是六都的部分其實也開始搭配重要的這個活動像高雄他在這個演唱會的這個方面就可以看到他的成效那當然還有米其林在台中的米其林其實也帶動了台中的美食的旅遊\n\n13\n00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:20,983\n我們覺得這些還是可以看到大家一些努力的成果但是住宿這個部分確實我們一直希望這個還是能夠留客那我們現在國旅還是一樣就是所謂的這個留宿的部分就一日遊的比例太高\n\n14\n00:04:22,663 --> 00:04:36,729\n這部分我還是要提一下這個我們民宿業者也發聲一下其實像我們平常來講有很多優質的民宿那往往我們在觀光署在處理的一個觀光推展的方面當然我們還是以所謂的一個\n\n15\n00:04:38,029 --> 00:04:42,190\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n16\n00:05:02,396 --> 00:05:04,438\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n17\n00:05:21,491 --> 00:05:28,174\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司\n\n18\n00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:57,128\n包含未來我們要結合社區做一些深度體驗這部分都是我們需要努力的方向今天公關署有選定了103家的金職得獎金職得獎的那個民宿那這個部分我們會大力來推廣\n\n19\n00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:26,863\n另外我想另外一個部分就是說針對我也跟我們幾位南部的委員都有在在討論這個問題就是說其實我們很多的因為這些東南亞的遊客他們往往因為班機的問題必須飛到桃園他們沒有辦法去到小港機場所以因為這樣的誘因不足造成其實他們要來南台灣旅遊的意願會降低而且消費會增加這部分有沒有辦法請民進黨局能夠再協調一下增加我們小港機場的這個\n\n20\n00:06:28,505 --> 00:06:46,302\n今年它的這個航點已經比過去疫情更多了航點的部分那這個部分我們還要持續來爭取我們希望未來小港機場可以作為臺灣一個非常重要的一個機場所以不管是航點、航線、航班我們都希望能夠成長跟增加這個部分我們還是繼續來努力\n\n21\n00:06:47,924 --> 00:07:13,794\n另外部長我想從我們觀光署這個國際的一個宣傳費用從110億元開始一年都要花10億元我想這個花的錢不在少數但是這樣花了這個錢之後看起來並沒有增加所謂一個國外旅客到臺灣來的一個旅遊的誘因那我們國內的景點大概還是停留在故宮這個九份甚至墾丁這邊也是固定那幾個景點我們沒有開發新的景點\n\n22\n00:07:16,215 --> 00:07:37,835\n那很遺憾的是就我們來看像最近那個加洛水以前是我們的記憶國小畢業旅行一定要去玩甚至很多國外遊客一定要來墾丁國家公園玩但是因為卡到我們有觀光署有墾丁國家公園署這些跌床驕傲之後加洛水這次逢台颱風尿沒人要插很可憐的這為了要怎麼去處理這個建設的問題\n\n23\n00:07:41,918 --> 00:08:06,237\n那個部分我們有了解過當然它是屬於國家公園裡面那如果交通部這邊能夠做的能夠協助的包含觀光的宣傳的部分我們當然可以努力不過硬體的部分似乎我們之前有想辦法要做可是被監察院糾正過今天國家公園署的代理署長也要來了我想請他也我們到時候大家來討論一下怎麼樣來協助加熱水這個再現方法\n\n24\n00:08:07,726 --> 00:08:33,964\n因為我想上次上個禮拜部長我們一起在談到所謂的恆春建成150週年那當然我覺得有一個很意義的就是我們要跨部會整合包含整合恆春古城的一個建設包含墾丁國家公園的發展我想這部分都是必須要花很多的心力來做一個跨部會不要大家都是都在說實績而已都不要扛責任這樣是不對啦所以我想明年恆春建成150週年\n\n25\n00:08:35,225 --> 00:09:00,664\n在這邊也特別拜託部長跟署長全力支持我們恆春建成150週年是一個很有意義的一個歷史的一個活動目前有三個活動我們會盡量來協助有三個活動我們都盡量來協助另外我們有成立一個恆春建成150週年的專案小組我們的這個大鵬灣的風景管理處會作為窗口大家一起來研商看要怎麼協助好那最後我一個問題剛剛有提到我們那個霍倫擱淺的問題那\n\n26\n00:09:05,267 --> 00:09:21,719\n局長、葉局長我們那個開米颱風東港這邊還有一艘蒙古籍的巴西亞到現在都還沒有拖走捲幾天風太陽我看位置又偏了捲危險有有有各位很棒我們持續都有專人這個監控他的這個狀況\n\n27\n00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:39,055\n那一個是船體的位置另外一個是海面有沒有遊這個持續都每一天都有那另外空拍允許的情況下我們也都會空拍也會送給海保署那另外一個先是決定就地解體嗎還是要拖走\n\n28\n00:09:39,355 --> 00:10:08,033\n因為他的狀況可能就地解體的機會大概沒有辦法脫帶離開所以應該可能是就地解體那不過我們現在因為這個保險公司他沒有出名處理那我們依照香港法案這個介入處理那現在公開招標之後這個廠商會提出這個傳體圖計畫我們會來做審查如果有機會拖出去我們當然是希望能夠拖出去\n\n29\n00:10:08,473 --> 00:10:08,693\n委員會主席\n\n30\n00:10:29,494 --> 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謝謝謝謝委員\n","txt":"好,謝謝主席,我們有請交通部陳部長、觀光署周署長有請陳部長\n部長好、署長好首先謝謝部長我們上個禮拜一我們交通委員會到屏東來考察然後想從考察結束的那個時候開始為了接著跟鄉親來點維這個屏東的交通問題到底有沒有解就是說\n交通委員會也看了好幾次關於這個所謂的路線問題還是一些包含高鐵也好、高級也好還有我們的屏南快速道路甚至觀光的一些方案也好部長我想經過一個禮拜之後您個人有沒有信心可以處於我們這樣的一個交通觀光的困境我想交通部跟委員一起在努力包含屏東縣政府也非常的努力\n所有我們在爭取的交通建設案都在推進當中目前都有進度而且都在推進當中所以這個當然是有信心的\n在這邊真的很誠懇的要拜託部長就是我們鄉親的期待因為這個屏東不是只有解決交通的問題他牽扯觀光的層面、產業的層面還有文化教育諸多的層面你觀光不一樣,這些東西很難到位這我想部長最清楚那我們也很期待我們就真的每一個階段要有每一個階段的進展\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n這個署長最喜歡講的微笑曲線那署長我想從我們那個出國的人數的對比那我們這個國內旅遊的一個對比真的是一個很強烈的一個落差那\n從這個出國人次的一千多萬到現在我們入境才六百多萬那觀光署這邊對整個策略上的思考上到底有沒有出現什麼樣的問題可不可以請部長跟署長做一個答覆我跟委員簡單的報告一下\n目前來看我們都是一個年度一個年度在做整體檢討那今年度的部分大概有分兩部分一個就是可控的因素一個是不可控的因素因為在做檢討的時候本來就是需要這樣子做說明的\n那有些我們還是可以繼續努力的部分原則上在海外的部分還是無路其發因為我們覺得推廣會跟這個旅展的參與還有這些重要的景點或是重要的這個所謂的轉運站的行銷還是廣告還是很重要然後再加上社群\n那另外一個部分就是真的國旅這個部分因為確實疫情之後解封之後這個國人比較熱愛旅遊都是往國外走那尤其是這個匯率差或是是有些特定的譬如說越南的復國島這些它的團價都比較便宜所以反而會鼓勵了國人一些往外旅遊的一個意願\n但是我們國內的部分還是可以強化的就是說我們發現22個縣市政府尤其是六都的部分其實也開始搭配重要的這個活動像高雄他在這個演唱會的這個方面就可以看到他的成效那當然還有米其林在台中的米其林其實也帶動了台中的美食的旅遊\n我們覺得這些還是可以看到大家一些努力的成果但是住宿這個部分確實我們一直希望這個還是能夠留客那我們現在國旅還是一樣就是所謂的這個留宿的部分就一日遊的比例太高\n這部分我還是要提一下這個我們民宿業者也發聲一下其實像我們平常來講有很多優質的民宿那往往我們在觀光署在處理的一個觀光推展的方面當然我們還是以所謂的一個\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司\n包含未來我們要結合社區做一些深度體驗這部分都是我們需要努力的方向今天公關署有選定了103家的金職得獎金職得獎的那個民宿那這個部分我們會大力來推廣\n另外我想另外一個部分就是說針對我也跟我們幾位南部的委員都有在在討論這個問題就是說其實我們很多的因為這些東南亞的遊客他們往往因為班機的問題必須飛到桃園他們沒有辦法去到小港機場所以因為這樣的誘因不足造成其實他們要來南台灣旅遊的意願會降低而且消費會增加這部分有沒有辦法請民進黨局能夠再協調一下增加我們小港機場的這個\n今年它的這個航點已經比過去疫情更多了航點的部分那這個部分我們還要持續來爭取我們希望未來小港機場可以作為臺灣一個非常重要的一個機場所以不管是航點、航線、航班我們都希望能夠成長跟增加這個部分我們還是繼續來努力\n另外部長我想從我們觀光署這個國際的一個宣傳費用從110億元開始一年都要花10億元我想這個花的錢不在少數但是這樣花了這個錢之後看起來並沒有增加所謂一個國外旅客到臺灣來的一個旅遊的誘因那我們國內的景點大概還是停留在故宮這個九份甚至墾丁這邊也是固定那幾個景點我們沒有開發新的景點\n那很遺憾的是就我們來看像最近那個加洛水以前是我們的記憶國小畢業旅行一定要去玩甚至很多國外遊客一定要來墾丁國家公園玩但是因為卡到我們有觀光署有墾丁國家公園署這些跌床驕傲之後加洛水這次逢台颱風尿沒人要插很可憐的這為了要怎麼去處理這個建設的問題\n那個部分我們有了解過當然它是屬於國家公園裡面那如果交通部這邊能夠做的能夠協助的包含觀光的宣傳的部分我們當然可以努力不過硬體的部分似乎我們之前有想辦法要做可是被監察院糾正過今天國家公園署的代理署長也要來了我想請他也我們到時候大家來討論一下怎麼樣來協助加熱水這個再現方法\n因為我想上次上個禮拜部長我們一起在談到所謂的恆春建成150週年那當然我覺得有一個很意義的就是我們要跨部會整合包含整合恆春古城的一個建設包含墾丁國家公園的發展我想這部分都是必須要花很多的心力來做一個跨部會不要大家都是都在說實績而已都不要扛責任這樣是不對啦所以我想明年恆春建成150週年\n在這邊也特別拜託部長跟署長全力支持我們恆春建成150週年是一個很有意義的一個歷史的一個活動目前有三個活動我們會盡量來協助有三個活動我們都盡量來協助另外我們有成立一個恆春建成150週年的專案小組我們的這個大鵬灣的風景管理處會作為窗口大家一起來研商看要怎麼協助好那最後我一個問題剛剛有提到我們那個霍倫擱淺的問題那\n局長、葉局長我們那個開米颱風東港這邊還有一艘蒙古籍的巴西亞到現在都還沒有拖走捲幾天風太陽我看位置又偏了捲危險有有有各位很棒我們持續都有專人這個監控他的這個狀況\n那一個是船體的位置另外一個是海面有沒有遊這個持續都每一天都有那另外空拍允許的情況下我們也都會空拍也會送給海保署那另外一個先是決定就地解體嗎還是要拖走\n因為他的狀況可能就地解體的機會大概沒有辦法脫帶離開所以應該可能是就地解體那不過我們現在因為這個保險公司他沒有出名處理那我們依照香港法案這個介入處理那現在公開招標之後這個廠商會提出這個傳體圖計畫我們會來做審查如果有機會拖出去我們當然是希望能夠拖出去\n委員會主席\n那另外圍籬的部分我們會就是把它圍射得完整也應該做一個安全的一個防護措施啦就避免真的發生危險啦好 謝謝謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.786 --> 00:16.115\n好,謝謝主席,我們有請交通部陳部長、觀光署周署長有請陳部長\n\n00:23.926 --> 00:39.398\n部長好、署長好首先謝謝部長我們上個禮拜一我們交通委員會到屏東來考察然後想從考察結束的那個時候開始為了接著跟鄉親來點維這個屏東的交通問題到底有沒有解就是說\n\n00:44.181 --> 01:10.027\n交通委員會也看了好幾次關於這個所謂的路線問題還是一些包含高鐵也好、高級也好還有我們的屏南快速道路甚至觀光的一些方案也好部長我想經過一個禮拜之後您個人有沒有信心可以處於我們這樣的一個交通觀光的困境我想交通部跟委員一起在努力包含屏東縣政府也非常的努力\n\n01:10.647 --> 01:18.620\n所有我們在爭取的交通建設案都在推進當中目前都有進度而且都在推進當中所以這個當然是有信心的\n\n01:19.318 --> 01:42.367\n在這邊真的很誠懇的要拜託部長就是我們鄉親的期待因為這個屏東不是只有解決交通的問題他牽扯觀光的層面、產業的層面還有文化教育諸多的層面你觀光不一樣,這些東西很難到位這我想部長最清楚那我們也很期待我們就真的每一個階段要有每一個階段的進展\n\n01:43.848 --> 01:44.509\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n02:05.592 --> 02:19.164\n這個署長最喜歡講的微笑曲線那署長我想從我們那個出國的人數的對比那我們這個國內旅遊的一個對比真的是一個很強烈的一個落差那\n\n02:21.546 --> 02:38.383\n從這個出國人次的一千多萬到現在我們入境才六百多萬那觀光署這邊對整個策略上的思考上到底有沒有出現什麼樣的問題可不可以請部長跟署長做一個答覆我跟委員簡單的報告一下\n\n02:39.980 --> 02:54.730\n目前來看我們都是一個年度一個年度在做整體檢討那今年度的部分大概有分兩部分一個就是可控的因素一個是不可控的因素因為在做檢討的時候本來就是需要這樣子做說明的\n\n02:55.330 --> 03:14.913\n那有些我們還是可以繼續努力的部分原則上在海外的部分還是無路其發因為我們覺得推廣會跟這個旅展的參與還有這些重要的景點或是重要的這個所謂的轉運站的行銷還是廣告還是很重要然後再加上社群\n\n03:15.774 --> 03:40.870\n那另外一個部分就是真的國旅這個部分因為確實疫情之後解封之後這個國人比較熱愛旅遊都是往國外走那尤其是這個匯率差或是是有些特定的譬如說越南的復國島這些它的團價都比較便宜所以反而會鼓勵了國人一些往外旅遊的一個意願\n\n03:42.651 --> 04:03.740\n但是我們國內的部分還是可以強化的就是說我們發現22個縣市政府尤其是六都的部分其實也開始搭配重要的這個活動像高雄他在這個演唱會的這個方面就可以看到他的成效那當然還有米其林在台中的米其林其實也帶動了台中的美食的旅遊\n\n04:04.720 --> 04:20.983\n我們覺得這些還是可以看到大家一些努力的成果但是住宿這個部分確實我們一直希望這個還是能夠留客那我們現在國旅還是一樣就是所謂的這個留宿的部分就一日遊的比例太高\n\n04:22.663 --> 04:36.729\n這部分我還是要提一下這個我們民宿業者也發聲一下其實像我們平常來講有很多優質的民宿那往往我們在觀光署在處理的一個觀光推展的方面當然我們還是以所謂的一個\n\n04:38.029 --> 04:42.190\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n05:02.396 --> 05:04.438\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署\n\n05:21.491 --> 05:28.174\n有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司董事長、外交部國家公園署有限公司\n\n05:46.041 --> 05:57.128\n包含未來我們要結合社區做一些深度體驗這部分都是我們需要努力的方向今天公關署有選定了103家的金職得獎金職得獎的那個民宿那這個部分我們會大力來推廣\n\n05:58.700 --> 06:26.863\n另外我想另外一個部分就是說針對我也跟我們幾位南部的委員都有在在討論這個問題就是說其實我們很多的因為這些東南亞的遊客他們往往因為班機的問題必須飛到桃園他們沒有辦法去到小港機場所以因為這樣的誘因不足造成其實他們要來南台灣旅遊的意願會降低而且消費會增加這部分有沒有辦法請民進黨局能夠再協調一下增加我們小港機場的這個\n\n06:28.505 --> 06:46.302\n今年它的這個航點已經比過去疫情更多了航點的部分那這個部分我們還要持續來爭取我們希望未來小港機場可以作為臺灣一個非常重要的一個機場所以不管是航點、航線、航班我們都希望能夠成長跟增加這個部分我們還是繼續來努力\n\n06:47.924 --> 07:13.794\n另外部長我想從我們觀光署這個國際的一個宣傳費用從110億元開始一年都要花10億元我想這個花的錢不在少數但是這樣花了這個錢之後看起來並沒有增加所謂一個國外旅客到臺灣來的一個旅遊的誘因那我們國內的景點大概還是停留在故宮這個九份甚至墾丁這邊也是固定那幾個景點我們沒有開發新的景點\n\n07:16.215 --> 07:37.835\n那很遺憾的是就我們來看像最近那個加洛水以前是我們的記憶國小畢業旅行一定要去玩甚至很多國外遊客一定要來墾丁國家公園玩但是因為卡到我們有觀光署有墾丁國家公園署這些跌床驕傲之後加洛水這次逢台颱風尿沒人要插很可憐的這為了要怎麼去處理這個建設的問題\n\n07:41.918 --> 08:06.237\n那個部分我們有了解過當然它是屬於國家公園裡面那如果交通部這邊能夠做的能夠協助的包含觀光的宣傳的部分我們當然可以努力不過硬體的部分似乎我們之前有想辦法要做可是被監察院糾正過今天國家公園署的代理署長也要來了我想請他也我們到時候大家來討論一下怎麼樣來協助加熱水這個再現方法\n\n08:07.726 --> 08:33.964\n因為我想上次上個禮拜部長我們一起在談到所謂的恆春建成150週年那當然我覺得有一個很意義的就是我們要跨部會整合包含整合恆春古城的一個建設包含墾丁國家公園的發展我想這部分都是必須要花很多的心力來做一個跨部會不要大家都是都在說實績而已都不要扛責任這樣是不對啦所以我想明年恆春建成150週年\n\n08:35.225 --> 09:00.664\n在這邊也特別拜託部長跟署長全力支持我們恆春建成150週年是一個很有意義的一個歷史的一個活動目前有三個活動我們會盡量來協助有三個活動我們都盡量來協助另外我們有成立一個恆春建成150週年的專案小組我們的這個大鵬灣的風景管理處會作為窗口大家一起來研商看要怎麼協助好那最後我一個問題剛剛有提到我們那個霍倫擱淺的問題那\n\n09:05.267 --> 09:21.719\n局長、葉局長我們那個開米颱風東港這邊還有一艘蒙古籍的巴西亞到現在都還沒有拖走捲幾天風太陽我看位置又偏了捲危險有有有各位很棒我們持續都有專人這個監控他的這個狀況\n\n09:23.300 --> 09:39.055\n那一個是船體的位置另外一個是海面有沒有遊這個持續都每一天都有那另外空拍允許的情況下我們也都會空拍也會送給海保署那另外一個先是決定就地解體嗎還是要拖走\n\n09:39.355 --> 10:08.033\n因為他的狀況可能就地解體的機會大概沒有辦法脫帶離開所以應該可能是就地解體那不過我們現在因為這個保險公司他沒有出名處理那我們依照香港法案這個介入處理那現在公開招標之後這個廠商會提出這個傳體圖計畫我們會來做審查如果有機會拖出去我們當然是希望能夠拖出去\n\n10:08.473 --> 10:08.693\n委員會主席\n\n10:29.494 --> 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