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00:03:11,846\n願意跟美國合作一個穩定、一個民主、一個自由的台灣絕對是新的美國政府的重大利益所以我簡單請教一下您認為未來台美關係會不會更好我認為基本上或者是說這樣子問會速度太快但是您如果我換個角度問你啦您對於未來台美關係是抱持什麼樣的態度是樂觀呢還是悲觀呢還是\n\n10\n00:03:12,745 --> 00:03:35,085\n我基本上是對於不僅僅是臺美臺歐關係我是持樂觀的態度就是我們現在看整體的地緣政治環境的變遷所以你認為未來的臺灣在這個國際市的這個戰略地位上面其實我相當樂觀就根據我在六年在法國擔任大使我看到是這樣的一個趨勢好市長謝謝來我請一下那個經貿辦\n\n11\n00:03:39,966 --> 00:03:47,392\n如果說剛剛外交部的整體評估包括次長的認為未來的這個關係是樂觀的臺美關係是樂觀的我想進一步請教經貿辦在我們臺美21世紀的這個貿易倡議協定裡頭在8月的時候其實這個\n\n12\n00:03:59,442 --> 00:04:24,620\n在8月的時候啊美國政府已經把它放進去要進一步來核定了嘛包括戴琪也在進一步的這個發展請一下經貿辦現在的進度到哪裡就是說我們第一批可以什麼時候可以真的開始落實真的開始可以開始執行好謝謝委員的追尋針對我們臺美的21世紀貿易倡議呢首先要先說明的是這一個倡議本身的推動\n\n13\n00:04:25,339 --> 00:04:54,186\n以及美國必須要制定一個國內法的相應執行法這都是美國跨黨派的共識未來他如果是完全執政的話你們推估這個進度會不會加速到底什麼時候可以完成第一批首先第一批協定我們也持續跟現在的貿易團隊在進行溝通他們的基本上給我們的是一個非常樂觀看待的一個進展\n\n14\n00:04:55,096 --> 00:05:21,653\n現在基本上已經在跟國會溝通的過程當中首批協議國會沒有其他的意見所以接下來可能只剩下行政程序原來說的行政程序大概是60天完成所以原來推估大概是11月可以完成這些行政程序但可能美國大選時程上是會有一些delay這個部分我是不是也要請經貿辦你們可能還需要確實去掌握一下包括21世紀的貿易倡議協議\n\n15\n00:05:23,374 --> 00:05:39,909\n第一批執行的日期跟第二批持續後續的談判的日期接下來是這個全面的租稅協議的部分這個可能也都是經貿辦很重要的一個工作所以這一些進度上面的掌握包括未來跟新政府之間的溝通\n\n16\n00:05:41,751 --> 00:05:56,561\n這個可能也要請經貿辦多花一點心思那接下來要請教跟今天我們主席排定的主題是比較有相關的對於CPTPP我想主責單位也是在經貿辦那台灣其實在過去的幾年我們把\n\n17\n00:06:01,965 --> 00:06:14,998\n相關的法令都把它修改了因為我們已經準備好要加入CPTPP但是我想請問經貿辦到底我們現在在推動的進展如何\n\n18\n00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:35,856\n我看這個這個會員國啊CPTPP的會員國在去年他們有一個所謂的奧克蘭三原則就是說要有高標準要有遵守貿易承諾然後呢是要共識絕對於新加入的會員國是要有所謂的這個所謂的奧克蘭三標準\n\n19\n00:06:36,556 --> 00:06:56,719\n那看起來包括澳洲的貿易部跟日本多次都是表達中國可能是沒有達到CPTPP的標準那我不知道就你們的掌握台灣有沒有那台灣在這個布局上面在這個推動的時程上面台灣還缺了什麼東西\n\n20\n00:06:58,865 --> 00:07:11,102\n謝謝委員的吹詢確實現在的CPTPP針對新申請國確實按照奧克蘭三原則也就是要符合高標準要有過去有良好的貿易承諾的紀錄以及共識覺我們現在已經透過任何各種的\n\n21\n00:07:15,328 --> 00:07:30,310\n多邊雙邊的這些架構跟CPTPP的成員國做過接觸那我們所得到的訊息是這些國家對於臺灣的高標準以及符合貿易承諾這些良好紀錄完全沒有任何的意見他們覺得臺灣都可以達到\n\n22\n00:07:30,990 --> 00:07:56,231\n那當然他們有請我們共識覺這一個是大家需要共同努力的所以還有特別請我們辦公室以及請我們臺灣要所以你們有沒有進行過任何的遊說包括這個很快的在27號可能會在加拿大要開的所謂的執行委員會包括明年在澳洲那我不知道經貿辦你們有沒有在這個過程裡頭或者是在這個期間去進行任何的遊說\n\n23\n00:07:57,392 --> 00:08:06,263\n我國當前經貿情勢分析及如何有效拓展國際經貿空間戰略規劃之相關政策作為：暨申請加入CPTPP進度說明、成員國立場分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部部長、經濟部部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員\n\n24\n00:08:17,495 --> 00:08:43,951\n這些會員國一直不敢對於台灣的入會審查表達任何的意見主要的壓力來源會在哪裡如果照您剛剛講的包括我們這幾個會員國對於台灣都是高度肯定的那我們一直沒有辦法得到首肯入會您覺得壓力來源會是在哪裡會是在中國嗎會不會是中國的施壓所以讓這些會員國不敢在這個時候或者是不敢這麼貿然的表態來支持台灣加入CPTPP\n\n25\n00:08:45,172 --> 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好 謝謝好 謝謝邱議員委員\n","txt":"邀請邱益穎委員我請外交部次長很難得到經濟委員會來\n那個經貿辦顏副總裁是不是也準備一下\n市長早市長我想這個從昨天到現在大概全球都在關注美國的大選那川普先生再度當選美國的總統而他的參眾兩院看起來目前看起來也會是共和黨來掌握所以他應該是久違了所謂的全面執政\n那全球關注川普的當選我想台灣當然也不能置身事外我比較想聽一下到底外交部的分析就是說現在這樣的一個新的局面對於台灣的具體影響是什麼你們外交部現在能不能分析到或者是掌握到川普當選之後在台美關係的進展上面包括我們過去在談的幾項經貿協議上面\n會不會有更進一步的發展還是說會停滯不前?我想聽一下外交部的意見報告委員我想美國是我們最重要的盟邦那外交部\n及我們政府重要工作就是與新當選的美國政府來進行最密切的合作所以現在川普政府新當選我想外交部以及我們政府現在已經積極開始跟川普總統的團隊在進行溝通然後看未來如何合作我基本上以外交部的立場來看\n一個民主、繁榮、擁有高科技、半導體科技的台灣\n我剛才講說民主繁榮自由和平這個絕對是美國兩黨的重大的國家利益我想這個是一個非常清楚的那臺灣也是世界根據各項的指示十大科技國之一美國現在世界上各國都是在爭取作為科技領導國像AI所以我想一個\n願意跟美國合作一個穩定、一個民主、一個自由的台灣絕對是新的美國政府的重大利益所以我簡單請教一下您認為未來台美關係會不會更好我認為基本上或者是說這樣子問會速度太快但是您如果我換個角度問你啦您對於未來台美關係是抱持什麼樣的態度是樂觀呢還是悲觀呢還是\n我基本上是對於不僅僅是臺美臺歐關係我是持樂觀的態度就是我們現在看整體的地緣政治環境的變遷所以你認為未來的臺灣在這個國際市的這個戰略地位上面其實我相當樂觀就根據我在六年在法國擔任大使我看到是這樣的一個趨勢好市長謝謝來我請一下那個經貿辦\n如果說剛剛外交部的整體評估包括次長的認為未來的這個關係是樂觀的臺美關係是樂觀的我想進一步請教經貿辦在我們臺美21世紀的這個貿易倡議協定裡頭在8月的時候其實這個\n在8月的時候啊美國政府已經把它放進去要進一步來核定了嘛包括戴琪也在進一步的這個發展請一下經貿辦現在的進度到哪裡就是說我們第一批可以什麼時候可以真的開始落實真的開始可以開始執行好謝謝委員的追尋針對我們臺美的21世紀貿易倡議呢首先要先說明的是這一個倡議本身的推動\n以及美國必須要制定一個國內法的相應執行法這都是美國跨黨派的共識未來他如果是完全執政的話你們推估這個進度會不會加速到底什麼時候可以完成第一批首先第一批協定我們也持續跟現在的貿易團隊在進行溝通他們的基本上給我們的是一個非常樂觀看待的一個進展\n現在基本上已經在跟國會溝通的過程當中首批協議國會沒有其他的意見所以接下來可能只剩下行政程序原來說的行政程序大概是60天完成所以原來推估大概是11月可以完成這些行政程序但可能美國大選時程上是會有一些delay這個部分我是不是也要請經貿辦你們可能還需要確實去掌握一下包括21世紀的貿易倡議協議\n第一批執行的日期跟第二批持續後續的談判的日期接下來是這個全面的租稅協議的部分這個可能也都是經貿辦很重要的一個工作所以這一些進度上面的掌握包括未來跟新政府之間的溝通\n這個可能也要請經貿辦多花一點心思那接下來要請教跟今天我們主席排定的主題是比較有相關的對於CPTPP我想主責單位也是在經貿辦那台灣其實在過去的幾年我們把\n相關的法令都把它修改了因為我們已經準備好要加入CPTPP但是我想請問經貿辦到底我們現在在推動的進展如何\n我看這個這個會員國啊CPTPP的會員國在去年他們有一個所謂的奧克蘭三原則就是說要有高標準要有遵守貿易承諾然後呢是要共識絕對於新加入的會員國是要有所謂的這個所謂的奧克蘭三標準\n那看起來包括澳洲的貿易部跟日本多次都是表達中國可能是沒有達到CPTPP的標準那我不知道就你們的掌握台灣有沒有那台灣在這個布局上面在這個推動的時程上面台灣還缺了什麼東西\n謝謝委員的吹詢確實現在的CPTPP針對新申請國確實按照奧克蘭三原則也就是要符合高標準要有過去有良好的貿易承諾的紀錄以及共識覺我們現在已經透過任何各種的\n多邊雙邊的這些架構跟CPTPP的成員國做過接觸那我們所得到的訊息是這些國家對於臺灣的高標準以及符合貿易承諾這些良好紀錄完全沒有任何的意見他們覺得臺灣都可以達到\n那當然他們有請我們共識覺這一個是大家需要共同努力的所以還有特別請我們辦公室以及請我們臺灣要所以你們有沒有進行過任何的遊說包括這個很快的在27號可能會在加拿大要開的所謂的執行委員會包括明年在澳洲那我不知道經貿辦你們有沒有在這個過程裡頭或者是在這個期間去進行任何的遊說\n我國當前經貿情勢分析及如何有效拓展國際經貿空間戰略規劃之相關政策作為：暨申請加入CPTPP進度說明、成員國立場分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部部長、經濟部部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員\n這些會員國一直不敢對於台灣的入會審查表達任何的意見主要的壓力來源會在哪裡如果照您剛剛講的包括我們這幾個會員國對於台灣都是高度肯定的那我們一直沒有辦法得到首肯入會您覺得壓力來源會是在哪裡會是在中國嗎會不會是中國的施壓所以讓這些會員國不敢在這個時候或者是不敢這麼貿然的表態來支持台灣加入CPTPP\n我覺得CPTPP因為他們尊重他們的共識覺的過程所以基本上他們希望是透過內部已經有達到一致性的一個看法他們才會對外去表示他們的意見OK 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03:35.085\n我基本上是對於不僅僅是臺美臺歐關係我是持樂觀的態度就是我們現在看整體的地緣政治環境的變遷所以你認為未來的臺灣在這個國際市的這個戰略地位上面其實我相當樂觀就根據我在六年在法國擔任大使我看到是這樣的一個趨勢好市長謝謝來我請一下那個經貿辦\n\n03:39.966 --> 03:47.392\n如果說剛剛外交部的整體評估包括次長的認為未來的這個關係是樂觀的臺美關係是樂觀的我想進一步請教經貿辦在我們臺美21世紀的這個貿易倡議協定裡頭在8月的時候其實這個\n\n03:59.442 --> 04:24.620\n在8月的時候啊美國政府已經把它放進去要進一步來核定了嘛包括戴琪也在進一步的這個發展請一下經貿辦現在的進度到哪裡就是說我們第一批可以什麼時候可以真的開始落實真的開始可以開始執行好謝謝委員的追尋針對我們臺美的21世紀貿易倡議呢首先要先說明的是這一個倡議本身的推動\n\n04:25.339 --> 04:54.186\n以及美國必須要制定一個國內法的相應執行法這都是美國跨黨派的共識未來他如果是完全執政的話你們推估這個進度會不會加速到底什麼時候可以完成第一批首先第一批協定我們也持續跟現在的貿易團隊在進行溝通他們的基本上給我們的是一個非常樂觀看待的一個進展\n\n04:55.096 --> 05:21.653\n現在基本上已經在跟國會溝通的過程當中首批協議國會沒有其他的意見所以接下來可能只剩下行政程序原來說的行政程序大概是60天完成所以原來推估大概是11月可以完成這些行政程序但可能美國大選時程上是會有一些delay這個部分我是不是也要請經貿辦你們可能還需要確實去掌握一下包括21世紀的貿易倡議協議\n\n05:23.374 --> 05:39.909\n第一批執行的日期跟第二批持續後續的談判的日期接下來是這個全面的租稅協議的部分這個可能也都是經貿辦很重要的一個工作所以這一些進度上面的掌握包括未來跟新政府之間的溝通\n\n05:41.751 --> 05:56.561\n這個可能也要請經貿辦多花一點心思那接下來要請教跟今天我們主席排定的主題是比較有相關的對於CPTPP我想主責單位也是在經貿辦那台灣其實在過去的幾年我們把\n\n06:01.965 --> 06:14.998\n相關的法令都把它修改了因為我們已經準備好要加入CPTPP但是我想請問經貿辦到底我們現在在推動的進展如何\n\n06:16.584 --> 06:35.856\n我看這個這個會員國啊CPTPP的會員國在去年他們有一個所謂的奧克蘭三原則就是說要有高標準要有遵守貿易承諾然後呢是要共識絕對於新加入的會員國是要有所謂的這個所謂的奧克蘭三標準\n\n06:36.556 --> 06:56.719\n那看起來包括澳洲的貿易部跟日本多次都是表達中國可能是沒有達到CPTPP的標準那我不知道就你們的掌握台灣有沒有那台灣在這個布局上面在這個推動的時程上面台灣還缺了什麼東西\n\n06:58.865 --> 07:11.102\n謝謝委員的吹詢確實現在的CPTPP針對新申請國確實按照奧克蘭三原則也就是要符合高標準要有過去有良好的貿易承諾的紀錄以及共識覺我們現在已經透過任何各種的\n\n07:15.328 --> 07:30.310\n多邊雙邊的這些架構跟CPTPP的成員國做過接觸那我們所得到的訊息是這些國家對於臺灣的高標準以及符合貿易承諾這些良好紀錄完全沒有任何的意見他們覺得臺灣都可以達到\n\n07:30.990 --> 07:56.231\n那當然他們有請我們共識覺這一個是大家需要共同努力的所以還有特別請我們辦公室以及請我們臺灣要所以你們有沒有進行過任何的遊說包括這個很快的在27號可能會在加拿大要開的所謂的執行委員會包括明年在澳洲那我不知道經貿辦你們有沒有在這個過程裡頭或者是在這個期間去進行任何的遊說\n\n07:57.392 --> 08:06.263\n我國當前經貿情勢分析及如何有效拓展國際經貿空間戰略規劃之相關政策作為：暨申請加入CPTPP進度說明、成員國立場分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部部長、經濟部部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員會首長、農業部長、行政院經貿分析與跨部會主任委員\n\n08:17.495 --> 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