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00:01:43,958\n是不是可以因為他各地方政府在清查需要一些時間是不是在明天下午明天下午前好明天下午前那我們知道各縣市是不是已經有查到幼兒園小學、國中、高中對還有這些補習班、課後照顧包含除了教室之外還有一些可能除工、清潔員等等的沒錯我想我們會列入重點\n\n6\n00:01:47,821 --> 00:02:12,210\n這部分真的要拜託部長一定要來詳盡的為我們所有的家長為我們所有的小孩來努力最後我也想要再請教部長我們是不是還有什麼方法可以更積極的來做呢例如我們是不是可以更加強的去宣導一定要聘用有工作簽證的人才可以部長那是我們首要的目的首要的目標\n\n7\n00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:24,043\n這個部分請加強宣導拜託拜託拜託部長那接下來就是我們要來談一下有關於今天的主題就是有關於電子煙的部分那待會請國建副署長可不可以也一起上來謝謝\n\n8\n00:02:31,876 --> 00:02:53,121\n根據世界衛生組織在2008年的報告指出其實並沒有任何的科學證據電子煙能有效幫忙戒煙其實在2019年的WHO全球煙草報告也已經明確指出電子煙是對健康有傷害的2004年的報告發現在歐洲、中亞及加拿大15歲青少年有25%曾經抽煙30%曾經使用過電子煙\n\n9\n00:02:59,702 --> 00:03:23,889\n20%在過去30天內使用過電子煙所以我想這個數據清楚的告訴我們電子煙對全球所有的青少年是有非常嚴重的危害也是公共衛生非常重要的一環那我想請問部長您知道根據衛福部的調查目前大概有多少名的青少年正在使用這個電子煙嗎有多少人使用過電子煙\n\n10\n00:03:27,185 --> 00:03:41,576\n我所了解按比例來看國中大概有19000人左右那其他的比例對不起我忘掉了好沒關係我跟部長講一下好了啦我們使用率從104年的1.9%現在已經達到了這個3.9%整體來說看那條黑色線那高中職的部分呢\n\n11\n00:03:51,820 --> 00:04:14,138\n今年已經來到了8.8%也來到了8.8那2021年的實際數字呢就是7.9萬人其實我們的數字也是一直不停的在上升非常的可觀那部長我相信您也知道就是說您肯定會對我們的青少年帶來嚴重的危害\n\n12\n00:04:14,718 --> 00:04:15,119\n韓國的研究報告\n\n13\n00:04:30,683 --> 00:04:57,032\n指出有3萬名的高中生使用電子煙罹患氣喘的人是不曾使用電子煙的兩倍以上所以電子煙可能也是一個嚴重的影響氣喘的一個重要因子但是就像剛剛葛委員其實有提到我們明明是禁止販售電子煙的還是大家只要拿出你的手機Google一查這就是頁面\n\n14\n00:04:58,092 --> 00:05:10,704\n就是有這麼多的違法的廣告衝刺在我們的網路上面讓我們的小孩可以輕易的取得所以我請教副署長我們現在其實有做查緝嘛對不對\n\n15\n00:05:12,318 --> 00:05:37,208\n那我看的資料2024年我們衛生局網路稽查的商品件次跟實體稽查電次、電家次高達279,521次這是今年的對今年的沒錯但是呢裁罰的件數也就是指違法行徑已經完成行政程序並且開提處分數的喔只有637件我想了解一下這個原因是什麼為什麼落差這麼大\n\n16\n00:05:37,708 --> 00:05:40,809\n跟委員報告這個52萬次的稽查次數、裁罰次數其實有包括了違反第15條中勘載、販售、使用等等我們目前截至10月30號為止我們的裁罰件數是1370件\n\n17\n00:05:56,015 --> 00:05:58,016\n這就是從去年的3月22號到今年的10月30號那裁罰的金額到目前是9千萬不過因為現在的社會氛圍讓我們必須要更加緊我們的裁罰力道跟裁罰的速度所以跟委員報告我們大概在10月30號有邀集各縣市\n\n18\n00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,000\n張雅琳議員\n\n19\n00:06:34,651 --> 00:07:00,345\n但是這還是顯示一個很大的落差那個落差是除了地方政府進來之後我們就可以彌平這個落差呢還是我們還有哪些做法應該要來彌平因為我之前也有看到新聞報導是講說卡在行政程序上面所以我們的裁罰件數才落差這麼大因為剛才有這麼多委員在提醒所以我們會再跟教育部跟相關的部會來溝通怎麼樣在這件事情上做到更好的一些指責跟效果\n\n20\n00:07:01,005 --> 00:07:27,786\n我想具體的了解啦因為之前是有回到說我們的煙害防制組組長羅素英組長他是有講卡在行政程序嘛就算我們今天邀集的各個部會我們邀集的地方縣市政府一起來會不會最後又卡在行政程序呢我們正在解套這個行政程序能夠加速這個行政程序到底原因是什麼因為他需要約談然後需要做一些遞送的一些責任所以我們在建立一個更快速的SOP讓這個約談的速度加快\n\n21\n00:07:30,208 --> 00:07:51,961\n那這大概預計什麼時候會完成呢?我們一個月內給委員做報告好謝謝那再來就是說因為其實我們民間也有反應希望可以編列更多的預算還有更多的稽查人力所以我想了解目前的一個進度是什麼?我們每一年給縣市的稽查人力的逐年都在上升以112年跟113年今年為例我們大概多了2500萬那明年114年如果預算能夠順利通過我們會多4000多萬給地方來做查處的動作\n\n22\n00:07:59,659 --> 00:08:23,599\n那人力的部分含在裡面也含在裡面那這樣看起來跟總預算非常有關係那總預算跟我們的孩子的健康也息息相關啦所以還是希望就是在野黨的委員們可以一起來支持我們的總預算讓他可以儘速通關那再來就是說最後一個部分也想要請教一下部長跟副署長就是說針對我們目前這個新型態的煙品防制之前有說我們會做更多的宣導\n\n23\n00:08:27,142 --> 00:08:43,277\n目前宣導的一個方案是不是有請我們的兒少相關的委員一起來討論呢?這部分有沒有做?我們的宣導包括幼兒、國小、國中都有相關的專家來上到國中之後會有兒少代表進來\n\n24\n00:08:44,418 --> 00:09:09,004\n上到國中之後國中的這個宣導素材兒少代表會進來那幼兒的部分會有家長以及相關的幼兒專職教師會過來媽媽好那我想問一下那教育部的部分呢在校園那個宣導跟委員報告我們在課程教材教育這方面事實上會按照這個不同的這一些年齡教育程度裡邊分別有一些鼓勵老師發展許多的這些宣導的一些教材跟課程\n\n25\n00:09:09,684 --> 00:09:09,804\n所以我們內部的再來檢討\n\n26\n00:09:38,857 --> 00:10:06,669\n我希望就是說我們要確實的檢討啦不然我們用同樣過去的那個模式持續的進行我想我們人數還是會持續上升這個宣導等於有跟沒有是一樣的所以我要求因為我知道教育部也有兒少的代表好不好我們接下來我們應該會有新的宣導資料嘛對不對我想宣導資料我們一定會精進也邀請兒少專家一起進來來研商但是還真的是在源頭裡邊的一個阻斷我想那是一個非常重要的\n\n27\n00:10:06,789 --> 00:10:27,219\n讓我們老師能夠回到更專業的一個教學的一個工作我想因為青少年他們為什麼會抽電子煙常常都是因為同儕關係同儕的一些流行所以我們必須要讓他清楚的知道那個後果到底是什麼如果他不知道這個後果會對他的健康造成嚴重的影響的時候\n\n28\n00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,740\n請教育部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8911\t9371\t政務司司長\n19520\t42813\t部長好,因為其實剛剛葛委員他也有去關心這個有關於美國通知我們有個性犯罪前科的美國籍人士的這個事件嘛那我剛剛有聽到部長說目前已經清查完畢了嘛所以是指說全台灣各縣市的教育局都已經清查完畢包含了學校、幼兒園、補習班、課後照顧中心全部清查完畢了嗎?\n43513\t60746\t跟委員報告我們系統上是沒有所以這個因為他要任用有一定的規範然後包含良民證所以系統上他是沒有這個人的名字但是我們也邀請這一個要求這個各地方政府現在全面在清查\n61286\t81719\t所以現在是各縣市政府還在清查中嗎?是所以因為這個議題其實是一些教長會長告訴我的啦所以大家非常關心這個題目所以我希望因為其實我記得一個臨時提案我希望教育部今天下午5點之前可以去公佈我們現在清查的一個進度好嗎?讓大家知道各縣市現在的狀態可以嗎?\n83800\t103958\t是不是可以因為他各地方政府在清查需要一些時間是不是在明天下午明天下午前好明天下午前那我們知道各縣市是不是已經有查到幼兒園小學、國中、高中對還有這些補習班、課後照顧包含除了教室之外還有一些可能除工、清潔員等等的沒錯我想我們會列入重點\n107821\t132210\t這部分真的要拜託部長一定要來詳盡的為我們所有的家長為我們所有的小孩來努力最後我也想要再請教部長我們是不是還有什麼方法可以更積極的來做呢例如我們是不是可以更加強的去宣導一定要聘用有工作簽證的人才可以部長那是我們首要的目的首要的目標\n133190\t144043\t這個部分請加強宣導拜託拜託拜託部長那接下來就是我們要來談一下有關於今天的主題就是有關於電子煙的部分那待會請國建副署長可不可以也一起上來謝謝\n151876\t173121\t根據世界衛生組織在2008年的報告指出其實並沒有任何的科學證據電子煙能有效幫忙戒煙其實在2019年的WHO全球煙草報告也已經明確指出電子煙是對健康有傷害的2004年的報告發現在歐洲、中亞及加拿大15歲青少年有25%曾經抽煙30%曾經使用過電子煙\n179702\t203889\t20%在過去30天內使用過電子煙所以我想這個數據清楚的告訴我們電子煙對全球所有的青少年是有非常嚴重的危害也是公共衛生非常重要的一環那我想請問部長您知道根據衛福部的調查目前大概有多少名的青少年正在使用這個電子煙嗎有多少人使用過電子煙\n207185\t221576\t我所了解按比例來看國中大概有19000人左右那其他的比例對不起我忘掉了好沒關係我跟部長講一下好了啦我們使用率從104年的1.9%現在已經達到了這個3.9%整體來說看那條黑色線那高中職的部分呢\n231820\t254138\t今年已經來到了8.8%也來到了8.8那2021年的實際數字呢就是7.9萬人其實我們的數字也是一直不停的在上升非常的可觀那部長我相信您也知道就是說您肯定會對我們的青少年帶來嚴重的危害\n254718\t255119\t韓國的研究報告\n270683\t297032\t指出有3萬名的高中生使用電子煙罹患氣喘的人是不曾使用電子煙的兩倍以上所以電子煙可能也是一個嚴重的影響氣喘的一個重要因子但是就像剛剛葛委員其實有提到我們明明是禁止販售電子煙的還是大家只要拿出你的手機Google一查這就是頁面\n298092\t310704\t就是有這麼多的違法的廣告衝刺在我們的網路上面讓我們的小孩可以輕易的取得所以我請教副署長我們現在其實有做查緝嘛 對不對\n312318\t337208\t那我看的資料2024年我們衛生局網路稽查的商品件次跟實體稽查電次、電家次高達279,521次這是今年的對 今年的沒錯但是呢裁罰的件數也就是指違法行徑已經完成行政程序並且開提處分數的喔只有637件我想了解一下這個原因是什麼為什麼落差這麼大\n337708\t340809\t跟委員報告這個52萬次的稽查次數、裁罰次數其實有包括了違反第15條中勘載、販售、使用等等我們目前截至10月30號為止我們的裁罰件數是1370件\n356015\t358016\t這就是從去年的3月22號到今年的10月30號那裁罰的金額到目前是9千萬不過因為現在的社會氛圍讓我們必須要更加緊我們的裁罰力道跟裁罰的速度所以跟委員報告我們大概在10月30號有邀集各縣市\n373960\t374000\t張雅琳議員\n394651\t420345\t但是這還是顯示一個很大的落差那個落差是除了地方政府進來之後我們就可以彌平這個落差呢還是我們還有哪些做法應該要來彌平因為我之前也有看到新聞報導是講說卡在行政程序上面所以我們的裁罰件數才落差這麼大因為剛才有這麼多委員在提醒所以我們會再跟教育部跟相關的部會來溝通怎麼樣在這件事情上做到更好的一些指責跟效果\n421005\t447786\t我想具體的了解啦因為之前是有回到說我們的煙害防制組組長羅素英組長他是有講卡在行政程序嘛就算我們今天邀集的各個部會我們邀集的地方縣市政府一起來會不會最後又卡在行政程序呢我們正在解套這個行政程序能夠加速這個行政程序到底原因是什麼因為他需要約談然後需要做一些遞送的一些責任所以我們在建立一個更快速的SOP讓這個約談的速度加快\n450208\t471961\t那這大概預計什麼時候會完成呢?我們一個月內給委員做報告好 謝謝那再來就是說因為其實我們民間也有反應希望可以編列更多的預算還有更多的稽查人力所以我想了解目前的一個進度是什麼?我們每一年給縣市的稽查人力的逐年都在上升以112年跟113年今年為例我們大概多了2500萬那明年114年如果預算能夠順利通過我們會多4000多萬給地方來做查處的動作\n479659\t503599\t那人力的部分 含在裡面也含在裡面那這樣看起來跟總預算非常有關係那總預算跟我們的孩子的健康也息息相關啦所以還是希望就是在野黨的委員們可以一起來支持我們的總預算讓他可以儘速通關那再來就是說最後一個部分也想要請教一下部長跟副署長就是說針對我們目前這個新型態的煙品防制之前有說我們會做更多的宣導\n507142\t523277\t目前宣導的一個方案是不是有請我們的兒少相關的委員一起來討論呢?這部分有沒有做?我們的宣導包括幼兒、國小、國中都有相關的專家來上到國中之後會有兒少代表進來\n524418\t549004\t上到國中之後國中的這個宣導素材兒少代表會進來那幼兒的部分會有家長以及相關的幼兒專職教師會過來媽媽好那我想問一下那教育部的部分呢在校園那個宣導跟委員報告我們在課程教材教育這方面事實上會按照這個不同的這一些年齡教育程度裡邊分別有一些鼓勵老師發展許多的這些宣導的一些教材跟課程\n549684\t549804\t所以我們內部的再來檢討\n578857\t606669\t我希望就是說我們要確實的檢討啦不然我們用同樣過去的那個模式持續的進行我想我們人數還是會持續上升這個宣導等於有跟沒有是一樣的所以我要求因為我知道教育部也有兒少的代表好不好我們接下來我們應該會有新的宣導資料嘛對不對我想宣導資料我們一定會精進也邀請兒少專家一起進來來研商但是還真的是在源頭裡邊的一個阻斷我想那是一個非常重要的\n606789\t627219\t讓我們老師能夠回到更專業的一個教學的一個工作我想因為青少年他們為什麼會抽電子煙常常都是因為同儕關係同儕的一些流行所以我們必須要讓他清楚的知道那個後果到底是什麼如果他不知道這個後果會對他的健康造成嚴重的影響的時候\n628280\t629740\t請教育部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀\n","txt":"政務司司長\n部長好,因為其實剛剛葛委員他也有去關心這個有關於美國通知我們有個性犯罪前科的美國籍人士的這個事件嘛那我剛剛有聽到部長說目前已經清查完畢了嘛所以是指說全台灣各縣市的教育局都已經清查完畢包含了學校、幼兒園、補習班、課後照顧中心全部清查完畢了嗎?\n跟委員報告我們系統上是沒有所以這個因為他要任用有一定的規範然後包含良民證所以系統上他是沒有這個人的名字但是我們也邀請這一個要求這個各地方政府現在全面在清查\n所以現在是各縣市政府還在清查中嗎?是所以因為這個議題其實是一些教長會長告訴我的啦所以大家非常關心這個題目所以我希望因為其實我記得一個臨時提案我希望教育部今天下午5點之前可以去公佈我們現在清查的一個進度好嗎?讓大家知道各縣市現在的狀態可以嗎?\n是不是可以因為他各地方政府在清查需要一些時間是不是在明天下午明天下午前好明天下午前那我們知道各縣市是不是已經有查到幼兒園小學、國中、高中對還有這些補習班、課後照顧包含除了教室之外還有一些可能除工、清潔員等等的沒錯我想我們會列入重點\n這部分真的要拜託部長一定要來詳盡的為我們所有的家長為我們所有的小孩來努力最後我也想要再請教部長我們是不是還有什麼方法可以更積極的來做呢例如我們是不是可以更加強的去宣導一定要聘用有工作簽證的人才可以部長那是我們首要的目的首要的目標\n這個部分請加強宣導拜託拜託拜託部長那接下來就是我們要來談一下有關於今天的主題就是有關於電子煙的部分那待會請國建副署長可不可以也一起上來謝謝\n根據世界衛生組織在2008年的報告指出其實並沒有任何的科學證據電子煙能有效幫忙戒煙其實在2019年的WHO全球煙草報告也已經明確指出電子煙是對健康有傷害的2004年的報告發現在歐洲、中亞及加拿大15歲青少年有25%曾經抽煙30%曾經使用過電子煙\n20%在過去30天內使用過電子煙所以我想這個數據清楚的告訴我們電子煙對全球所有的青少年是有非常嚴重的危害也是公共衛生非常重要的一環那我想請問部長您知道根據衛福部的調查目前大概有多少名的青少年正在使用這個電子煙嗎有多少人使用過電子煙\n我所了解按比例來看國中大概有19000人左右那其他的比例對不起我忘掉了好沒關係我跟部長講一下好了啦我們使用率從104年的1.9%現在已經達到了這個3.9%整體來說看那條黑色線那高中職的部分呢\n今年已經來到了8.8%也來到了8.8那2021年的實際數字呢就是7.9萬人其實我們的數字也是一直不停的在上升非常的可觀那部長我相信您也知道就是說您肯定會對我們的青少年帶來嚴重的危害\n韓國的研究報告\n指出有3萬名的高中生使用電子煙罹患氣喘的人是不曾使用電子煙的兩倍以上所以電子煙可能也是一個嚴重的影響氣喘的一個重要因子但是就像剛剛葛委員其實有提到我們明明是禁止販售電子煙的還是大家只要拿出你的手機Google一查這就是頁面\n就是有這麼多的違法的廣告衝刺在我們的網路上面讓我們的小孩可以輕易的取得所以我請教副署長我們現在其實有做查緝嘛 對不對\n那我看的資料2024年我們衛生局網路稽查的商品件次跟實體稽查電次、電家次高達279,521次這是今年的對 今年的沒錯但是呢裁罰的件數也就是指違法行徑已經完成行政程序並且開提處分數的喔只有637件我想了解一下這個原因是什麼為什麼落差這麼大\n跟委員報告這個52萬次的稽查次數、裁罰次數其實有包括了違反第15條中勘載、販售、使用等等我們目前截至10月30號為止我們的裁罰件數是1370件\n這就是從去年的3月22號到今年的10月30號那裁罰的金額到目前是9千萬不過因為現在的社會氛圍讓我們必須要更加緊我們的裁罰力道跟裁罰的速度所以跟委員報告我們大概在10月30號有邀集各縣市\n張雅琳議員\n但是這還是顯示一個很大的落差那個落差是除了地方政府進來之後我們就可以彌平這個落差呢還是我們還有哪些做法應該要來彌平因為我之前也有看到新聞報導是講說卡在行政程序上面所以我們的裁罰件數才落差這麼大因為剛才有這麼多委員在提醒所以我們會再跟教育部跟相關的部會來溝通怎麼樣在這件事情上做到更好的一些指責跟效果\n我想具體的了解啦因為之前是有回到說我們的煙害防制組組長羅素英組長他是有講卡在行政程序嘛就算我們今天邀集的各個部會我們邀集的地方縣市政府一起來會不會最後又卡在行政程序呢我們正在解套這個行政程序能夠加速這個行政程序到底原因是什麼因為他需要約談然後需要做一些遞送的一些責任所以我們在建立一個更快速的SOP讓這個約談的速度加快\n那這大概預計什麼時候會完成呢?我們一個月內給委員做報告好 謝謝那再來就是說因為其實我們民間也有反應希望可以編列更多的預算還有更多的稽查人力所以我想了解目前的一個進度是什麼?我們每一年給縣市的稽查人力的逐年都在上升以112年跟113年今年為例我們大概多了2500萬那明年114年如果預算能夠順利通過我們會多4000多萬給地方來做查處的動作\n那人力的部分 含在裡面也含在裡面那這樣看起來跟總預算非常有關係那總預算跟我們的孩子的健康也息息相關啦所以還是希望就是在野黨的委員們可以一起來支持我們的總預算讓他可以儘速通關那再來就是說最後一個部分也想要請教一下部長跟副署長就是說針對我們目前這個新型態的煙品防制之前有說我們會做更多的宣導\n目前宣導的一個方案是不是有請我們的兒少相關的委員一起來討論呢?這部分有沒有做?我們的宣導包括幼兒、國小、國中都有相關的專家來上到國中之後會有兒少代表進來\n上到國中之後國中的這個宣導素材兒少代表會進來那幼兒的部分會有家長以及相關的幼兒專職教師會過來媽媽好那我想問一下那教育部的部分呢在校園那個宣導跟委員報告我們在課程教材教育這方面事實上會按照這個不同的這一些年齡教育程度裡邊分別有一些鼓勵老師發展許多的這些宣導的一些教材跟課程\n所以我們內部的再來檢討\n我希望就是說我們要確實的檢討啦不然我們用同樣過去的那個模式持續的進行我想我們人數還是會持續上升這個宣導等於有跟沒有是一樣的所以我要求因為我知道教育部也有兒少的代表好不好我們接下來我們應該會有新的宣導資料嘛對不對我想宣導資料我們一定會精進也邀請兒少專家一起進來來研商但是還真的是在源頭裡邊的一個阻斷我想那是一個非常重要的\n讓我們老師能夠回到更專業的一個教學的一個工作我想因為青少年他們為什麼會抽電子煙常常都是因為同儕關係同儕的一些流行所以我們必須要讓他清楚的知道那個後果到底是什麼如果他不知道這個後果會對他的健康造成嚴重的影響的時候\n請教育部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部長鄭英耀\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.911 --> 00:09.371\n政務司司長\n\n00:19.520 --> 00:42.813\n部長好,因為其實剛剛葛委員他也有去關心這個有關於美國通知我們有個性犯罪前科的美國籍人士的這個事件嘛那我剛剛有聽到部長說目前已經清查完畢了嘛所以是指說全台灣各縣市的教育局都已經清查完畢包含了學校、幼兒園、補習班、課後照顧中心全部清查完畢了嗎?\n\n00:43.513 --> 01:00.746\n跟委員報告我們系統上是沒有所以這個因為他要任用有一定的規範然後包含良民證所以系統上他是沒有這個人的名字但是我們也邀請這一個要求這個各地方政府現在全面在清查\n\n01:01.286 --> 01:21.719\n所以現在是各縣市政府還在清查中嗎?是所以因為這個議題其實是一些教長會長告訴我的啦所以大家非常關心這個題目所以我希望因為其實我記得一個臨時提案我希望教育部今天下午5點之前可以去公佈我們現在清查的一個進度好嗎?讓大家知道各縣市現在的狀態可以嗎?\n\n01:23.800 --> 01:43.958\n是不是可以因為他各地方政府在清查需要一些時間是不是在明天下午明天下午前好明天下午前那我們知道各縣市是不是已經有查到幼兒園小學、國中、高中對還有這些補習班、課後照顧包含除了教室之外還有一些可能除工、清潔員等等的沒錯我想我們會列入重點\n\n01:47.821 --> 02:12.210\n這部分真的要拜託部長一定要來詳盡的為我們所有的家長為我們所有的小孩來努力最後我也想要再請教部長我們是不是還有什麼方法可以更積極的來做呢例如我們是不是可以更加強的去宣導一定要聘用有工作簽證的人才可以部長那是我們首要的目的首要的目標\n\n02:13.190 --> 02:24.043\n這個部分請加強宣導拜託拜託拜託部長那接下來就是我們要來談一下有關於今天的主題就是有關於電子煙的部分那待會請國建副署長可不可以也一起上來謝謝\n\n02:31.876 --> 02:53.121\n根據世界衛生組織在2008年的報告指出其實並沒有任何的科學證據電子煙能有效幫忙戒煙其實在2019年的WHO全球煙草報告也已經明確指出電子煙是對健康有傷害的2004年的報告發現在歐洲、中亞及加拿大15歲青少年有25%曾經抽煙30%曾經使用過電子煙\n\n02:59.702 --> 03:23.889\n20%在過去30天內使用過電子煙所以我想這個數據清楚的告訴我們電子煙對全球所有的青少年是有非常嚴重的危害也是公共衛生非常重要的一環那我想請問部長您知道根據衛福部的調查目前大概有多少名的青少年正在使用這個電子煙嗎有多少人使用過電子煙\n\n03:27.185 --> 03:41.576\n我所了解按比例來看國中大概有19000人左右那其他的比例對不起我忘掉了好沒關係我跟部長講一下好了啦我們使用率從104年的1.9%現在已經達到了這個3.9%整體來說看那條黑色線那高中職的部分呢\n\n03:51.820 --> 04:14.138\n今年已經來到了8.8%也來到了8.8那2021年的實際數字呢就是7.9萬人其實我們的數字也是一直不停的在上升非常的可觀那部長我相信您也知道就是說您肯定會對我們的青少年帶來嚴重的危害\n\n04:14.718 --> 04:15.119\n韓國的研究報告\n\n04:30.683 --> 04:57.032\n指出有3萬名的高中生使用電子煙罹患氣喘的人是不曾使用電子煙的兩倍以上所以電子煙可能也是一個嚴重的影響氣喘的一個重要因子但是就像剛剛葛委員其實有提到我們明明是禁止販售電子煙的還是大家只要拿出你的手機Google一查這就是頁面\n\n04:58.092 --> 05:10.704\n就是有這麼多的違法的廣告衝刺在我們的網路上面讓我們的小孩可以輕易的取得所以我請教副署長我們現在其實有做查緝嘛對不對\n\n05:12.318 --> 05:37.208\n那我看的資料2024年我們衛生局網路稽查的商品件次跟實體稽查電次、電家次高達279,521次這是今年的對今年的沒錯但是呢裁罰的件數也就是指違法行徑已經完成行政程序並且開提處分數的喔只有637件我想了解一下這個原因是什麼為什麼落差這麼大\n\n05:37.708 --> 05:40.809\n跟委員報告這個52萬次的稽查次數、裁罰次數其實有包括了違反第15條中勘載、販售、使用等等我們目前截至10月30號為止我們的裁罰件數是1370件\n\n05:56.015 --> 05:58.016\n這就是從去年的3月22號到今年的10月30號那裁罰的金額到目前是9千萬不過因為現在的社會氛圍讓我們必須要更加緊我們的裁罰力道跟裁罰的速度所以跟委員報告我們大概在10月30號有邀集各縣市\n\n06:13.960 --> 06:14.000\n張雅琳議員\n\n06:34.651 --> 07:00.345\n但是這還是顯示一個很大的落差那個落差是除了地方政府進來之後我們就可以彌平這個落差呢還是我們還有哪些做法應該要來彌平因為我之前也有看到新聞報導是講說卡在行政程序上面所以我們的裁罰件數才落差這麼大因為剛才有這麼多委員在提醒所以我們會再跟教育部跟相關的部會來溝通怎麼樣在這件事情上做到更好的一些指責跟效果\n\n07:01.005 --> 07:27.786\n我想具體的了解啦因為之前是有回到說我們的煙害防制組組長羅素英組長他是有講卡在行政程序嘛就算我們今天邀集的各個部會我們邀集的地方縣市政府一起來會不會最後又卡在行政程序呢我們正在解套這個行政程序能夠加速這個行政程序到底原因是什麼因為他需要約談然後需要做一些遞送的一些責任所以我們在建立一個更快速的SOP讓這個約談的速度加快\n\n07:30.208 --> 07:51.961\n那這大概預計什麼時候會完成呢?我們一個月內給委員做報告好謝謝那再來就是說因為其實我們民間也有反應希望可以編列更多的預算還有更多的稽查人力所以我想了解目前的一個進度是什麼?我們每一年給縣市的稽查人力的逐年都在上升以112年跟113年今年為例我們大概多了2500萬那明年114年如果預算能夠順利通過我們會多4000多萬給地方來做查處的動作\n\n07:59.659 --> 08:23.599\n那人力的部分含在裡面也含在裡面那這樣看起來跟總預算非常有關係那總預算跟我們的孩子的健康也息息相關啦所以還是希望就是在野黨的委員們可以一起來支持我們的總預算讓他可以儘速通關那再來就是說最後一個部分也想要請教一下部長跟副署長就是說針對我們目前這個新型態的煙品防制之前有說我們會做更多的宣導\n\n08:27.142 --> 08:43.277\n目前宣導的一個方案是不是有請我們的兒少相關的委員一起來討論呢?這部分有沒有做?我們的宣導包括幼兒、國小、國中都有相關的專家來上到國中之後會有兒少代表進來\n\n08:44.418 --> 09:09.004\n上到國中之後國中的這個宣導素材兒少代表會進來那幼兒的部分會有家長以及相關的幼兒專職教師會過來媽媽好那我想問一下那教育部的部分呢在校園那個宣導跟委員報告我們在課程教材教育這方面事實上會按照這個不同的這一些年齡教育程度裡邊分別有一些鼓勵老師發展許多的這些宣導的一些教材跟課程\n\n09:09.684 --> 09:09.804\n所以我們內部的再來檢討\n\n09:38.857 --> 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