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00:00:49,175\n委員好部長早安那在進入今天的主題之前呢因為剛才雅琳委員有關心同樣的一個問題就是有一個有性犯罪前科的美籍人士露台那這個讓家長及教師們都非常非常的憂心那剛才部長您有回覆就是說我們有要求各縣市政府的教育局處來做這個清查的這個狀況那意思是說明天才會有清查的結果嗎\n\n3\n00:00:50,371 --> 00:01:17,639\n跟委員報告確實我們現在通令從系統上來講要聘用如果有系統上他一定會阻隔掉因為他是不符合資格的但是至於有一些他不必然是立案可能社區或者小型的這些許多的這些兒童的相關的一些補習班或者這個才藝的這些班那我們也希望這一個地方政府特別對兒少的這一個區塊一定要確實\n\n4\n00:01:20,060 --> 00:01:20,080\n陳秀寳議員\n\n5\n00:01:36,580 --> 00:01:58,036\n好,謝謝部長,其實本席要要求就是說這是有關校園的安全,千萬不能怠惰。那在我們有最確切的消息掌握了之後呢,也要求說我們教育部一定要公布這樣調查的結果,讓家長跟民眾都可以放心。是的,我想這是我們的責任。好,謝謝部長,您可以先休息一下。接下來請法務部郭司長。好,我們有請郭司長。\n\n6\n00:02:06,610 --> 00:02:20,597\n委員好市長好在10月底的時候本期這邊有跟吳啟明委員跟李坤城委員共同來舉行這個關於喪屍煙彈管制這個記者會那這個也呼籲相關的部會呢我們要重視一脫民主濫用這個問題\n\n7\n00:02:21,818 --> 00:02:37,629\n在當時本席有提到說去年高檢署11月底成立的毒品限區原料預警平台那時候是表示說教育部是沒有參與的那這個部分我會要求說法務部應該要邀請教育部來與會那請問司長這個部分你們有跟部長討論過嗎這個部分\n\n8\n00:02:42,376 --> 00:03:07,499\n我們會請這個教育部也能夠加入這個我們平台所以下一次你們預警平台開會的時候就會邀請教育部了對會邀請後面會邀請他們其實因為我們整個防制毒品的這個安全網我們不能獨缺教育部我們應該更全面的跟每個部會都有訊息的交流所以司長這邊有承諾就是說我們下一次開會的時候教育部就會來參與\n\n9\n00:03:08,820 --> 00:03:11,182\n那因為教育部的這個校安通報呢他們有統計學生濫用藥物的這個情況如果有新興藥物在校園裡面流傳呢教育部也會將他們實際掌握的情形啊校園裡面的情況來供給各部會來參考\n\n10\n00:03:23,831 --> 00:03:23,851\n陳秀寳議員\n\n11\n00:03:48,131 --> 00:03:49,792\n高監署是一個督導緝毒的小組,各地監署有一個緝毒執行小組,每3個月開一次。\n\n12\n00:04:04,881 --> 00:04:23,099\n每3月開一次我們除了邀執法機關之外都有邀教育局、當地縣市政府的教育局派員來參加請少年法庭委派庭長、候法官來參加在那個會議上就有關於讀請的分析、查詢的狀況我們都分析給來參與的教育局的人員\n\n13\n00:04:29,205 --> 00:04:46,272\n希望他們在查辦上能夠多加的協助因為進入校園這一塊其實蠻敏感的有些學校蠻抗拒的那這一部分其實在各地檢署這個每三個月就會開一次因為我待過新竹、台中、雲林我們每三個月就開一次會邀這些單位\n\n14\n00:04:48,553 --> 00:05:14,766\n好謝謝施展尤其現在依托米紙的替代品替代攤名在中國很流行那我們要預防說未來是不是在台灣也會氾濫所以這個跨部會這個橫向的聯繫是非常的重要也希望說法務部這邊跟教育部要緊密的合作好那您請回另外我也希望說警政署在查獲依托米紙中的稀有或持\n\n15\n00:05:16,147 --> 00:05:26,998\n此有或稀釋的人數裡面你們要去做統計年齡、教育程度、職業那將這個資料能夠交給教育部跟國建署作為反讀宣導的依據那接下來呢部長您\n\n16\n00:05:37,799 --> 00:05:45,441\n部長今天的主題專報的主題就是在本席在總質詢的時候的題目本席在總質詢的時候有說過我們是很擔憂有毒品的這個煙油透過電子煙進入校園那我們先來看一下國建署這邊調查的資料從107年到110年國高中生使用電子煙的比例其實是節節攀升的國中生從107年的1.9%到110年的3.9%\n\n17\n00:06:03,527 --> 00:06:10,273\n那高中學生又從107年的3.4%到110年的8.8%這樣的狀況其實是真的讓人家很憂心再來看一下關於大專院校學生使用電子煙的狀況教育部在112年前各校查填違法使用的這個情況調查的結果人數只有1536人使用部長您覺得這個數字是有確實的反映事實嗎\n\n18\n00:06:29,541 --> 00:06:49,777\n我想如果以衛福部的數據跟教育部內部的當然它有一定的一些落差那本來就是說在調查、問卷調查裡面當然難免會有一定的誤差會有一定的落差的原因是什麼?那個部長您有想過嗎?其實本期這邊要跟教育部\n\n19\n00:06:51,198 --> 00:07:17,922\n在討論這個問題喔我有跟你們要的資料齁就是近3年高中以下學校通報電子煙的這個件數110年是20件112年是32件到113年在目前為止只有38件這個件數很明顯的跟事實是有很大的落差那根據國建署的調查的統計跟教育部這個來比對差這麼多部長您覺得是什麼原因\n\n20\n00:07:18,562 --> 00:07:45,888\n跟委員報告有比較我直接的看這個數據我認為青少年他在抽煙電子煙可能發生在校外的比例是比較高的因為學校裡邊他主要上課讀上課嘛時間排的比較緊湊然後他放學以後可能在社區在其他的地方學校的老師終究在這個部分他還是會關心青少年的一個發展所以\n\n21\n00:07:46,488 --> 00:07:46,508\n那這邊齁\n\n22\n00:08:02,149 --> 00:08:29,345\n我也要跟部長您提醒其實這個數字反映出來就是說現場教學現場的老師他們要做這個電子煙的查查其實是有困難的那困難的原因就是說其實我們教育部以及我們衛生主管單位有沒有針對校園內的查緝做一個一套的一致性的規範讓學校可以遵循本席在總質詢的時候有建議過教育部我們應該聯合橫向的聯合社政警政衛政這個系統\n\n23\n00:08:30,706 --> 00:08:31,766\n教育部部長鄭英耀\n\n24\n00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:05,481\n本席要求的是我們教育部這邊針對校園電子煙處理的流程跟機制而不是對外的所以在這邊我要建議第一個我們應該針對學生使用電子煙查緝通報裁罰有個流程是明確一致的流程第二個是希望說我們來明確規範是不是通報家長我們在什麼時候通報家長第一次查到的時候還是第二次查到的時候還是在什麼時候通知家長是最適當的\n\n25\n00:09:24,147 --> 00:09:52,651\n第三個是不是同步的通報地方衛生單位我們也要一致的標準我們是抓到了查到了就通報還是在怎樣的情況下會通報我想委員所提醒的我們都會在校園的陰害防治裡邊我們把它納入然後在實施辦法裡邊來進行這個部分我要求教育部你們要盡快的把這個相關的這樣的流程這樣的規範訂出來有個依據學校的老師他開採一個有這樣子的SOP可依選\n\n26\n00:09:53,331 --> 00:09:53,671\n陳秀寳教育部長\n\n27\n00:10:23,334 --> 00:10:24,815\n我完全同意委員的說法希望是有互動式的﹗是\n\n28\n00:10:51,229 --> 00:10:55,773\n好,謝謝部長那接下來給我一點時間我想請國建署我們請國建署委員好國建署今天是假副署長那請問署長呢?署長這個因公出國那在上...兩個禮拜前的專報他也出國?是的\n\n29\n00:11:18,035 --> 00:11:19,938\n因為也是會有家長們覺得說這麼重要的專報\n\n30\n00:11:34,557 --> 00:11:36,799\n反映說為什麼署長都沒有到場是不是覺得說他不夠積極還是不夠關心沒有署長在這個出國之前有跟我們充分的討論那這邊因為我只接了一點點時間我想針對國建署這邊我還是要提醒你們在報告裡面其實有寫說針對這個網路販售的這個稽查\n\n31\n00:11:51,852 --> 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謝謝施展尤其現在依托米紙的替代品替代攤名在中國很流行那我們要預防說未來是不是在台灣也會氾濫所以這個跨部會這個橫向的聯繫是非常的重要也希望說法務部這邊跟教育部要緊密的合作好 那您請回另外我也希望說警政署在查獲依托米紙中的稀有或持\n316147\t326998\t此有或稀釋的人數裡面你們要去做統計年齡、教育程度、職業那將這個資料能夠交給教育部跟國建署作為反讀宣導的依據那接下來呢部長您\n337799\t345441\t部長 今天的主題 專報的主題就是在本席在總質詢的時候的題目本席在總質詢的時候有說過我們是很擔憂有毒品的這個煙油透過電子煙進入校園那我們先來看一下國建署這邊調查的資料從107年到110年國高中生使用電子煙的比例其實是節節攀升的國中生從107年的1.9%到110年的3.9%\n363527\t370273\t那高中學生又從107年的3.4%到110年的8.8%這樣的狀況其實是真的讓人家很憂心再來看一下關於大專院校學生使用電子煙的狀況教育部在112年前各校查填違法使用的這個情況調查的結果人數只有1536人使用部長您覺得這個數字是有確實的反映事實嗎\n389541\t409777\t我想如果以衛福部的數據跟教育部內部的當然它有一定的一些落差那本來就是說在調查、問卷調查裡面當然難免會有一定的誤差會有一定的落差的原因是什麼?那個部長您有想過嗎?其實本期這邊要跟教育部\n411198\t437922\t在討論這個問題喔我有跟你們要的資料齁就是近3年高中以下學校通報電子煙的這個件數110年是20件112年是32件到113年在目前為止只有38件這個件數很明顯的跟事實是有很大的落差那根據國建署的調查的統計跟教育部這個來比對差這麼多部長您覺得是什麼原因\n438562\t465888\t跟委員報告有比較我直接的看這個數據我認為青少年他在抽煙電子煙可能發生在校外的比例是比較高的因為學校裡邊他主要上課讀上課嘛時間排的比較緊湊然後他放學以後可能在社區在其他的地方學校的老師終究在這個部分他還是會關心青少年的一個發展所以\n466488\t466508\t那這邊齁\n482149\t509345\t我也要跟部長您提醒其實這個數字反映出來就是說現場教學現場的老師他們要做這個電子煙的查查其實是有困難的那困難的原因就是說其實我們教育部以及我們衛生主管單位有沒有針對校園內的查緝做一個一套的一致性的規範讓學校可以遵循本席在總質詢的時候有建議過教育部我們應該聯合橫向的聯合社政警政衛政這個系統\n510706\t511766\t教育部部長鄭英耀\n537679\t545481\t本席要求的是我們教育部這邊針對校園電子煙處理的流程跟機制而不是對外的所以在這邊我要建議第一個我們應該針對學生使用電子煙查緝通報裁罰有個流程是明確一致的流程第二個是希望說我們來明確規範是不是通報家長我們在什麼時候通報家長第一次查到的時候還是第二次查到的時候還是在什麼時候通知家長是最適當的\n564147\t592651\t第三個是不是同步的通報地方衛生單位我們也要一致的標準我們是抓到了查到了就通報還是在怎樣的情況下會通報我想委員所提醒的我們都會在校園的陰害防治裡邊我們把它納入然後在實施辦法裡邊來進行這個部分我要求教育部你們要盡快的把這個相關的這樣的流程這樣的規範訂出來有個依據學校的老師他開採一個有這樣子的SOP可依選\n593331\t593671\t陳秀寳教育部長\n623334\t624815\t我完全同意委員的說法希望是有互動式的﹗是\n651229\t655773\t好,謝謝部長那接下來給我一點時間我想請國建署我們請國建署委員好國建署今天是假副署長那請問署長呢?署長這個因公出國那在上...兩個禮拜前的專報他也出國?是的\n678035\t679938\t因為也是會有家長們覺得說這麼重要的專報\n694557\t696799\t反映說為什麼署長都沒有到場是不是覺得說他不夠積極還是不夠關心沒有 署長在這個出國之前有跟我們充分的討論那這邊因為我只接了一點點時間我想針對國建署這邊我還是要提醒你們在報告裡面其實有寫說針對這個網路販售的這個稽查\n711852\t711952\t主席主席\n","txt":"有請陳秀寳委員質詢。謝謝主席。有請鄭部長。好。有請鄭部長。\n委員好部長早安那在進入今天的主題之前呢因為剛才雅琳委員有關心同樣的一個問題就是有一個有性犯罪前科的美籍人士露台那這個讓家長及教師們都非常非常的憂心那剛才部長您有回覆就是說我們有要求各縣市政府的教育局處來做這個清查的這個狀況那意思是說明天才會有清查的結果嗎\n跟委員報告確實我們現在通令從系統上來講要聘用如果有系統上他一定會阻隔掉因為他是不符合資格的但是至於有一些他不必然是立案可能社區或者小型的這些許多的這些兒童的相關的一些補習班或者這個才藝的這些班那我們也希望這一個地方政府特別對兒少的這一個區塊一定要確實\n陳秀寳議員\n好,謝謝部長,其實本席要要求就是說這是有關校園的安全,千萬不能怠惰。那在我們有最確切的消息掌握了之後呢,也要求說我們教育部一定要公布這樣調查的結果,讓家長跟民眾都可以放心。是的,我想這是我們的責任。好,謝謝部長,您可以先休息一下。接下來請法務部郭司長。好,我們有請郭司長。\n委員好市長好在10月底的時候本期這邊有跟吳啟明委員跟李坤城委員共同來舉行這個關於喪屍煙彈管制這個記者會那這個也呼籲相關的部會呢我們要重視一脫民主濫用這個問題\n在當時本席有提到說去年高檢署11月底成立的毒品限區原料預警平台那時候是表示說教育部是沒有參與的那這個部分我會要求說法務部應該要邀請教育部來與會那請問司長這個部分你們有跟部長討論過嗎這個部分\n我們會請這個教育部也能夠加入這個我們平台所以下一次你們預警平台開會的時候就會邀請教育部了對會邀請後面會邀請他們其實因為我們整個防制毒品的這個安全網我們不能獨缺教育部我們應該更全面的跟每個部會都有訊息的交流所以司長這邊有承諾就是說我們下一次開會的時候教育部就會來參與\n那因為教育部的這個校安通報呢他們有統計學生濫用藥物的這個情況如果有新興藥物在校園裡面流傳呢教育部也會將他們實際掌握的情形啊校園裡面的情況來供給各部會來參考\n陳秀寳議員\n高監署是一個督導緝毒的小組,各地監署有一個緝毒執行小組,每3個月開一次。\n每3月開一次我們除了邀執法機關之外都有邀教育局、當地縣市政府的教育局派員來參加請少年法庭委派庭長、候法官來參加在那個會議上就有關於讀請的分析、查詢的狀況我們都分析給來參與的教育局的人員\n希望他們在查辦上能夠多加的協助因為進入校園這一塊其實蠻敏感的有些學校蠻抗拒的那這一部分其實在各地檢署這個每三個月就會開一次因為我待過新竹、台中、雲林我們每三個月就開一次會邀這些單位\n好 謝謝施展尤其現在依托米紙的替代品替代攤名在中國很流行那我們要預防說未來是不是在台灣也會氾濫所以這個跨部會這個橫向的聯繫是非常的重要也希望說法務部這邊跟教育部要緊密的合作好 那您請回另外我也希望說警政署在查獲依托米紙中的稀有或持\n此有或稀釋的人數裡面你們要去做統計年齡、教育程度、職業那將這個資料能夠交給教育部跟國建署作為反讀宣導的依據那接下來呢部長您\n部長 今天的主題 專報的主題就是在本席在總質詢的時候的題目本席在總質詢的時候有說過我們是很擔憂有毒品的這個煙油透過電子煙進入校園那我們先來看一下國建署這邊調查的資料從107年到110年國高中生使用電子煙的比例其實是節節攀升的國中生從107年的1.9%到110年的3.9%\n那高中學生又從107年的3.4%到110年的8.8%這樣的狀況其實是真的讓人家很憂心再來看一下關於大專院校學生使用電子煙的狀況教育部在112年前各校查填違法使用的這個情況調查的結果人數只有1536人使用部長您覺得這個數字是有確實的反映事實嗎\n我想如果以衛福部的數據跟教育部內部的當然它有一定的一些落差那本來就是說在調查、問卷調查裡面當然難免會有一定的誤差會有一定的落差的原因是什麼?那個部長您有想過嗎?其實本期這邊要跟教育部\n在討論這個問題喔我有跟你們要的資料齁就是近3年高中以下學校通報電子煙的這個件數110年是20件112年是32件到113年在目前為止只有38件這個件數很明顯的跟事實是有很大的落差那根據國建署的調查的統計跟教育部這個來比對差這麼多部長您覺得是什麼原因\n跟委員報告有比較我直接的看這個數據我認為青少年他在抽煙電子煙可能發生在校外的比例是比較高的因為學校裡邊他主要上課讀上課嘛時間排的比較緊湊然後他放學以後可能在社區在其他的地方學校的老師終究在這個部分他還是會關心青少年的一個發展所以\n那這邊齁\n我也要跟部長您提醒其實這個數字反映出來就是說現場教學現場的老師他們要做這個電子煙的查查其實是有困難的那困難的原因就是說其實我們教育部以及我們衛生主管單位有沒有針對校園內的查緝做一個一套的一致性的規範讓學校可以遵循本席在總質詢的時候有建議過教育部我們應該聯合橫向的聯合社政警政衛政這個系統\n教育部部長鄭英耀\n本席要求的是我們教育部這邊針對校園電子煙處理的流程跟機制而不是對外的所以在這邊我要建議第一個我們應該針對學生使用電子煙查緝通報裁罰有個流程是明確一致的流程第二個是希望說我們來明確規範是不是通報家長我們在什麼時候通報家長第一次查到的時候還是第二次查到的時候還是在什麼時候通知家長是最適當的\n第三個是不是同步的通報地方衛生單位我們也要一致的標準我們是抓到了查到了就通報還是在怎樣的情況下會通報我想委員所提醒的我們都會在校園的陰害防治裡邊我們把它納入然後在實施辦法裡邊來進行這個部分我要求教育部你們要盡快的把這個相關的這樣的流程這樣的規範訂出來有個依據學校的老師他開採一個有這樣子的SOP可依選\n陳秀寳教育部長\n我完全同意委員的說法希望是有互動式的﹗是\n好,謝謝部長那接下來給我一點時間我想請國建署我們請國建署委員好國建署今天是假副署長那請問署長呢?署長這個因公出國那在上...兩個禮拜前的專報他也出國?是的\n因為也是會有家長們覺得說這麼重要的專報\n反映說為什麼署長都沒有到場是不是覺得說他不夠積極還是不夠關心沒有 署長在這個出國之前有跟我們充分的討論那這邊因為我只接了一點點時間我想針對國建署這邊我還是要提醒你們在報告裡面其實有寫說針對這個網路販售的這個稽查\n主席主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.029 --> 00:11.395\n有請陳秀寳委員質詢。謝謝主席。有請鄭部長。好。有請鄭部長。\n\n00:21.175 --> 00:49.175\n委員好部長早安那在進入今天的主題之前呢因為剛才雅琳委員有關心同樣的一個問題就是有一個有性犯罪前科的美籍人士露台那這個讓家長及教師們都非常非常的憂心那剛才部長您有回覆就是說我們有要求各縣市政府的教育局處來做這個清查的這個狀況那意思是說明天才會有清查的結果嗎\n\n00:50.371 --> 01:17.639\n跟委員報告確實我們現在通令從系統上來講要聘用如果有系統上他一定會阻隔掉因為他是不符合資格的但是至於有一些他不必然是立案可能社區或者小型的這些許多的這些兒童的相關的一些補習班或者這個才藝的這些班那我們也希望這一個地方政府特別對兒少的這一個區塊一定要確實\n\n01:20.060 --> 01:20.080\n陳秀寳議員\n\n01:36.580 --> 01:58.036\n好,謝謝部長,其實本席要要求就是說這是有關校園的安全,千萬不能怠惰。那在我們有最確切的消息掌握了之後呢,也要求說我們教育部一定要公布這樣調查的結果,讓家長跟民眾都可以放心。是的,我想這是我們的責任。好,謝謝部長,您可以先休息一下。接下來請法務部郭司長。好,我們有請郭司長。\n\n02:06.610 --> 02:20.597\n委員好市長好在10月底的時候本期這邊有跟吳啟明委員跟李坤城委員共同來舉行這個關於喪屍煙彈管制這個記者會那這個也呼籲相關的部會呢我們要重視一脫民主濫用這個問題\n\n02:21.818 --> 02:37.629\n在當時本席有提到說去年高檢署11月底成立的毒品限區原料預警平台那時候是表示說教育部是沒有參與的那這個部分我會要求說法務部應該要邀請教育部來與會那請問司長這個部分你們有跟部長討論過嗎這個部分\n\n02:42.376 --> 03:07.499\n我們會請這個教育部也能夠加入這個我們平台所以下一次你們預警平台開會的時候就會邀請教育部了對會邀請後面會邀請他們其實因為我們整個防制毒品的這個安全網我們不能獨缺教育部我們應該更全面的跟每個部會都有訊息的交流所以司長這邊有承諾就是說我們下一次開會的時候教育部就會來參與\n\n03:08.820 --> 03:11.182\n那因為教育部的這個校安通報呢他們有統計學生濫用藥物的這個情況如果有新興藥物在校園裡面流傳呢教育部也會將他們實際掌握的情形啊校園裡面的情況來供給各部會來參考\n\n03:23.831 --> 03:23.851\n陳秀寳議員\n\n03:48.131 --> 03:49.792\n高監署是一個督導緝毒的小組,各地監署有一個緝毒執行小組,每3個月開一次。\n\n04:04.881 --> 04:23.099\n每3月開一次我們除了邀執法機關之外都有邀教育局、當地縣市政府的教育局派員來參加請少年法庭委派庭長、候法官來參加在那個會議上就有關於讀請的分析、查詢的狀況我們都分析給來參與的教育局的人員\n\n04:29.205 --> 04:46.272\n希望他們在查辦上能夠多加的協助因為進入校園這一塊其實蠻敏感的有些學校蠻抗拒的那這一部分其實在各地檢署這個每三個月就會開一次因為我待過新竹、台中、雲林我們每三個月就開一次會邀這些單位\n\n04:48.553 --> 05:14.766\n好謝謝施展尤其現在依托米紙的替代品替代攤名在中國很流行那我們要預防說未來是不是在台灣也會氾濫所以這個跨部會這個橫向的聯繫是非常的重要也希望說法務部這邊跟教育部要緊密的合作好那您請回另外我也希望說警政署在查獲依托米紙中的稀有或持\n\n05:16.147 --> 05:26.998\n此有或稀釋的人數裡面你們要去做統計年齡、教育程度、職業那將這個資料能夠交給教育部跟國建署作為反讀宣導的依據那接下來呢部長您\n\n05:37.799 --> 05:45.441\n部長今天的主題專報的主題就是在本席在總質詢的時候的題目本席在總質詢的時候有說過我們是很擔憂有毒品的這個煙油透過電子煙進入校園那我們先來看一下國建署這邊調查的資料從107年到110年國高中生使用電子煙的比例其實是節節攀升的國中生從107年的1.9%到110年的3.9%\n\n06:03.527 --> 06:10.273\n那高中學生又從107年的3.4%到110年的8.8%這樣的狀況其實是真的讓人家很憂心再來看一下關於大專院校學生使用電子煙的狀況教育部在112年前各校查填違法使用的這個情況調查的結果人數只有1536人使用部長您覺得這個數字是有確實的反映事實嗎\n\n06:29.541 --> 06:49.777\n我想如果以衛福部的數據跟教育部內部的當然它有一定的一些落差那本來就是說在調查、問卷調查裡面當然難免會有一定的誤差會有一定的落差的原因是什麼?那個部長您有想過嗎?其實本期這邊要跟教育部\n\n06:51.198 --> 07:17.922\n在討論這個問題喔我有跟你們要的資料齁就是近3年高中以下學校通報電子煙的這個件數110年是20件112年是32件到113年在目前為止只有38件這個件數很明顯的跟事實是有很大的落差那根據國建署的調查的統計跟教育部這個來比對差這麼多部長您覺得是什麼原因\n\n07:18.562 --> 07:45.888\n跟委員報告有比較我直接的看這個數據我認為青少年他在抽煙電子煙可能發生在校外的比例是比較高的因為學校裡邊他主要上課讀上課嘛時間排的比較緊湊然後他放學以後可能在社區在其他的地方學校的老師終究在這個部分他還是會關心青少年的一個發展所以\n\n07:46.488 --> 07:46.508\n那這邊齁\n\n08:02.149 --> 08:29.345\n我也要跟部長您提醒其實這個數字反映出來就是說現場教學現場的老師他們要做這個電子煙的查查其實是有困難的那困難的原因就是說其實我們教育部以及我們衛生主管單位有沒有針對校園內的查緝做一個一套的一致性的規範讓學校可以遵循本席在總質詢的時候有建議過教育部我們應該聯合橫向的聯合社政警政衛政這個系統\n\n08:30.706 --> 08:31.766\n教育部部長鄭英耀\n\n08:57.679 --> 09:05.481\n本席要求的是我們教育部這邊針對校園電子煙處理的流程跟機制而不是對外的所以在這邊我要建議第一個我們應該針對學生使用電子煙查緝通報裁罰有個流程是明確一致的流程第二個是希望說我們來明確規範是不是通報家長我們在什麼時候通報家長第一次查到的時候還是第二次查到的時候還是在什麼時候通知家長是最適當的\n\n09:24.147 --> 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