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00:02:15,450\n不允許任何不法的行徑再繼續進行下去所以我們建立了一個平台經濟部、法務部跟地方政府我們希望大家可以在這個平台上面任何的不法都請檢舉任何在溝通上的困難透過這個平台大家來解決所以\n\n7\n00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:37,233\n也許現在這個外商控訴臺灣發電這個困境我講是昨天的這個媒體在這個報導經濟部也有提出一個非常完整的這個說明這個是所以部長經濟部知道這件事情嘛對不對這樣的狀況在地方上在發生你知道嘛對不對但是我們\n\n8\n00:02:39,370 --> 00:02:53,721\n認為只要有不法我們絕對嚴懲我要講的是這個裡面有許多部分確實是現在遇到的一些問題當然有些弊案也已經被抓出來那我希望經濟部站在前端就是應該在制度面上怎麼去做好\n\n9\n00:02:54,201 --> 00:03:10,755\n不要讓那個弊端持續的發生因為一來是傷害到了臺灣的綠電的形象國家的整體形象政府的整體形象二方面也是讓這些不孝的人在地方上不斷地用這樣的方式他提到什麼機關說卡就卡\n\n10\n00:03:11,796 --> 00:03:39,240\n講到了什麼毫無道理的所求這是不是事實在我地方上我聽到有許多確實有這樣的狀況每個地方的狀況不一樣但是我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要找到一套制度面去做這個解決把這些組斷掉之後你才能夠讓有心來推動綠電的這些業者能夠持續的投入在台灣不然往往最後會變成是劣幣組良幣而且往往會讓整個綠電的發展將來遇到很大的一個困境\n\n11\n00:03:39,781 --> 00:03:56,823\n是的,謝謝委員的垂詢這一部分我們都在討論那已經設置的辦法我們在這個綠電平台上面都有一些辦法讓業者可以這個非常穩健部長,什麼樣的辦法?也不知道再講得更具體一點那我是不是可以請市長跟你報告?\n\n12\n00:03:59,136 --> 00:04:16,861\n跟委員報告第一個就是剛提到的所有的程序讓它公開透明化所以要把所有的這些標準訂出來所以行政院也要求經濟部跟農業部相關訂定這第一個第二個所有的大型的投資個案我們經濟部成立單一窗口來受理有任何的遇到任何投資的障礙或是投資的困難\n\n13\n00:04:17,581 --> 00:04:39,521\n由我們單一窗口來受理第三個就是打擊綠能蟑螂的犯罪由經濟部跟法務部任何的這一些情資我們就送到這個平台裡面去做相關的一個偵查調查、偵查跟處理如果所有的業者的部分在投入這些裡面的他們所遇到的一些困難的時候我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要去介入去了解他們遇到的困難是什麼樣的問題\n\n14\n00:04:40,402 --> 00:05:09,303\n如果他們遇到困難是遇到這種是綠電的蟑螂刻意的惡意去阻撓甚至於恐嚇甚至於去這種威脅的方式的話那這個經濟部門法務部就應該要採取行動我們認為應該主動因為所有有信號投資要做的其實你們也都清楚也都掌握到應該用這種單一窗口方式直接去協助才能夠嚇阻掉這些當這樣的方式更強力嚇阻這些人就不會去利用這個去賺取這些非法的利益這樣才有辦法讓\n\n15\n00:05:10,363 --> 00:05:32,859\n整個投資恢復信心,同時間讓所有願意來投資這個綠電的人有信心啦好不好希望部長跟署長持綠我也希望每個月你們的執行狀況也一份報告給我這邊知道好嗎我也希望在綠電上面我們是持續有所進展來讓全世界知道台灣在支持在推動綠電上的一個決心的好不好部長每個月把你們的推行狀況給我一份報告\n\n16\n00:05:34,153 --> 00:05:41,811\n是的,我們會把這些管制考核的部分送給...再來我上部長休息一下,我先請教一下江署長好不好\n\n17\n00:05:46,174 --> 00:06:10,696\n來部長你先休息了謝謝首長我先請教其實我知道因為你過去長期也在美國待了一段時間包括加拿大然後長期在國貿我想問一下這一次的川普的當選對台灣真理上會有什麼樣的影響是謝謝委員的垂詢首先因為川普他是比較主張單邊的這個主義所以在貿易的部分應該會對全球都會有受影響\n\n18\n00:06:11,517 --> 00:06:23,903\n那另外呢因為他有說之前在競選的期間有表達可能會對全世界的出口到美國的產品會加徵關稅10%的關稅所以如果萬一他實現了他的這個競選的這個這個政見的話其實會對全球出口\n\n19\n00:06:34,298 --> 00:06:41,325\n美國都會有受到影響自然也會影響到美國境內相關產品的售價第三點因為他有表達說可能會對中國的產品課徵60%的關稅這個部分我們也在密切的關切當中我們認為說因為現在川普他才宣布當選\n\n20\n00:06:58,662 --> 00:07:19,063\n那據這個他實際上任的時候還有一段時間所以我們會利用這個時間積極的來密切的注意川普他新政府他所採取的相關的經貿的政策那台灣有沒有什麼因應之道在面對他過去提出來的這些他的那個萬一他落實了他的那些想法的時候\n\n21\n00:07:19,454 --> 00:07:39,510\n我想很重要的話是我們必須強化對美的貿易論述讓美國知道台灣是美國非常重要的供應鏈來源而且台灣跟美國在經貿部分其實在供應鏈部分是互補互利的\n\n22\n00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:51,461\n尤其我們出口美國的大部分產品其實都是中間材這些中間材也是給美國的客戶來使用來運用來繼續的來製造相關的這個終端產品所以我們必須積極的來強化我們相關的論述首長那這樣\n\n23\n00:07:59,168 --> 00:08:21,601\n臺美貿易倡議的部分協定的簽訂的話有沒有辦法在年底前來做生效?我們首批協定已經完成在國內的部分我們的法律程序已經完成現在最主要是要看美國的部分美國的部分會在年底前簽署嗎?美國必須要提出一個向國會提出報告\n\n24\n00:08:22,421 --> 00:08:38,316\n那我們預計在提出報告之後必須要有一段時間來生效所以有可能會到明年嗎這個部分可能要看美國他國內的情形好我們希望持續努力請持續再努力好謝謝好謝謝代理人委員請回座代理人委員難得那麼準時\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2396\t8719\t請賴瑞榮委員好謝謝主席先請國部長請經濟部部長\n16618\t38897\t部長辛苦了部長我首先先請教一個問題其實綠電是我們未來的重要的一個方向對不對這個經濟部絕對是全力的發展綠電這也是未來的趨勢對不對是我看到最近有一篇報導其實也是跟我這幾年的感觸相當的就是說在發展綠電過程中的時候其實國家的政策\n39657\t67705\t鼓勵的政策包括甚至等購費率政策其實這個都是正確的在那加速但是也很多投入進來可是到了地方執行的時候遇到了很多的問題我看到現在很多的弊案都是幾乎是在地方執行上出了問題甚至遇到很多的綠店的蟑螂他要你就是你要取得土地你要取得所有這些的時候地方政府甚至有說地方的一些議會甚至有一些的黑道人士就介入部長這樣的問題要怎麼解決\n69998\t87674\t報告委員我們在這個應該是在10月份的時候這個院長我們行政院院長那就針對這個議題他直接到我們台南那在台南對這個所有的這個媒體都宣布\n89208\t109278\t未來對綠電的問題他絕不會允許任何的綠電蟑螂或者這些不法的廠商在臺灣再做下去所以他帶著經濟部、法務部、農業部直接到臺南去就這個命題公開的講\n111559\t135450\t不允許任何不法的行徑再繼續進行下去所以我們建立了一個平台經濟部、法務部跟地方政府我們希望大家可以在這個平台上面任何的不法都請檢舉任何在溝通上的困難透過這個平台大家來解決所以\n136860\t157233\t也許現在這個外商控訴臺灣發電這個困境我講是昨天的這個媒體在這個報導經濟部也有提出一個非常完整的這個說明這個是所以部長經濟部知道這件事情嘛對不對這樣的狀況在地方上在發生你知道嘛對不對但是我們\n159370\t173721\t認為只要有不法我們絕對嚴懲我要講的是這個裡面有許多部分確實是現在遇到的一些問題當然有些弊案也已經被抓出來那我希望經濟部站在前端就是應該在制度面上怎麼去做好\n174201\t190755\t不要讓那個弊端持續的發生因為一來是傷害到了臺灣的綠電的形象國家的整體形象政府的整體形象二方面也是讓這些不孝的人在地方上不斷地用這樣的方式他提到什麼機關說卡就卡\n191796\t219240\t講到了什麼毫無道理的所求這是不是事實在我地方上我聽到有許多確實有這樣的狀況每個地方的狀況不一樣但是我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要找到一套制度面去做這個解決把這些組斷掉之後你才能夠讓有心來推動綠電的這些業者能夠持續的投入在台灣不然往往最後會變成是劣幣組良幣而且往往會讓整個綠電的發展將來遇到很大的一個困境\n219781\t236823\t是的,謝謝委員的垂詢這一部分我們都在討論那已經設置的辦法我們在這個綠電平台上面都有一些辦法讓業者可以這個非常穩健部長,什麼樣的辦法?也不知道再講得更具體一點那我是不是可以請市長跟你報告?\n239136\t256861\t跟委員報告第一個就是剛提到的所有的程序讓它公開透明化所以要把所有的這些標準訂出來所以行政院也要求經濟部跟農業部相關訂定這第一個第二個所有的大型的投資個案我們經濟部成立單一窗口來受理有任何的遇到任何投資的障礙或是投資的困難\n257581\t279521\t由我們單一窗口來受理第三個就是打擊綠能蟑螂的犯罪由經濟部跟法務部任何的這一些情資我們就送到這個平台裡面去做相關的一個偵查調查、偵查跟處理如果所有的業者的部分在投入這些裡面的他們所遇到的一些困難的時候我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要去介入去了解他們遇到的困難是什麼樣的問題\n280402\t309303\t如果他們遇到困難是遇到這種是綠電的蟑螂刻意的惡意去阻撓甚至於恐嚇甚至於去這種威脅的方式的話那這個經濟部門法務部就應該要採取行動我們認為應該主動因為所有有信號投資要做的其實你們也都清楚也都掌握到應該用這種單一窗口方式直接去協助才能夠嚇阻掉這些當這樣的方式更強力嚇阻這些人就不會去利用這個去賺取這些非法的利益這樣才有辦法讓\n310363\t332859\t整個投資恢復信心,同時間讓所有願意來投資這個綠電的人有信心啦好不好希望部長跟署長持綠我也希望每個月你們的執行狀況也一份報告給我這邊知道好嗎我也希望在綠電上面我們是持續有所進展來讓全世界知道台灣在支持在推動綠電上的一個決心的好不好部長每個月把你們的推行狀況給我一份報告\n334153\t341811\t是的,我們會把這些管制考核的部分送給...再來我上部長休息一下,我先請教一下江署長好不好\n346174\t370696\t來部長你先休息了謝謝首長我先請教其實我知道因為你過去長期也在美國待了一段時間包括加拿大然後長期在國貿我想問一下這一次的川普的當選對台灣真理上會有什麼樣的影響是謝謝委員的垂詢首先因為川普他是比較主張單邊的這個主義所以在貿易的部分應該會對全球都會有受影響\n371517\t383903\t那另外呢因為他有說之前在競選的期間有表達可能會對全世界的出口到美國的產品會加徵關稅10%的關稅所以如果萬一他實現了他的這個競選的這個這個政見的話其實會對全球出口\n394298\t401325\t美國都會有受到影響自然也會影響到美國境內相關產品的售價第三點因為他有表達說可能會對中國的產品課徵60%的關稅這個部分我們也在密切的關切當中我們認為說因為現在川普他才宣布當選\n418662\t439063\t那據這個他實際上任的時候還有一段時間所以我們會利用這個時間積極的來密切的注意川普他新政府他所採取的相關的經貿的政策那台灣有沒有什麼因應之道在面對他過去提出來的這些他的那個萬一他落實了他的那些想法的時候\n439454\t459510\t我想很重要的話是我們必須強化對美的貿易論述讓美國知道台灣是美國非常重要的供應鏈來源而且台灣跟美國在經貿部分其實在供應鏈部分是互補互利的\n459910\t471461\t尤其我們出口美國的大部分產品其實都是中間材這些中間材也是給美國的客戶來使用來運用來繼續的來製造相關的這個終端產品所以我們必須積極的來強化我們相關的論述首長那這樣\n479168\t501601\t臺美貿易倡議的部分協定的簽訂的話有沒有辦法在年底前來做生效?我們首批協定已經完成在國內的部分我們的法律程序已經完成現在最主要是要看美國的部分美國的部分會在年底前簽署嗎?美國必須要提出一個向國會提出報告\n502421\t518316\t那我們預計在提出報告之後必須要有一段時間來生效所以有可能會到明年嗎這個部分可能要看美國他國內的情形好 我們希望持續努力請持續再努力好 謝謝好 謝謝代理人委員請回座代理人委員難得那麼準時\n","txt":"請賴瑞榮委員好謝謝主席先請國部長請經濟部部長\n部長辛苦了部長我首先先請教一個問題其實綠電是我們未來的重要的一個方向對不對這個經濟部絕對是全力的發展綠電這也是未來的趨勢對不對是我看到最近有一篇報導其實也是跟我這幾年的感觸相當的就是說在發展綠電過程中的時候其實國家的政策\n鼓勵的政策包括甚至等購費率政策其實這個都是正確的在那加速但是也很多投入進來可是到了地方執行的時候遇到了很多的問題我看到現在很多的弊案都是幾乎是在地方執行上出了問題甚至遇到很多的綠店的蟑螂他要你就是你要取得土地你要取得所有這些的時候地方政府甚至有說地方的一些議會甚至有一些的黑道人士就介入部長這樣的問題要怎麼解決\n報告委員我們在這個應該是在10月份的時候這個院長我們行政院院長那就針對這個議題他直接到我們台南那在台南對這個所有的這個媒體都宣布\n未來對綠電的問題他絕不會允許任何的綠電蟑螂或者這些不法的廠商在臺灣再做下去所以他帶著經濟部、法務部、農業部直接到臺南去就這個命題公開的講\n不允許任何不法的行徑再繼續進行下去所以我們建立了一個平台經濟部、法務部跟地方政府我們希望大家可以在這個平台上面任何的不法都請檢舉任何在溝通上的困難透過這個平台大家來解決所以\n也許現在這個外商控訴臺灣發電這個困境我講是昨天的這個媒體在這個報導經濟部也有提出一個非常完整的這個說明這個是所以部長經濟部知道這件事情嘛對不對這樣的狀況在地方上在發生你知道嘛對不對但是我們\n認為只要有不法我們絕對嚴懲我要講的是這個裡面有許多部分確實是現在遇到的一些問題當然有些弊案也已經被抓出來那我希望經濟部站在前端就是應該在制度面上怎麼去做好\n不要讓那個弊端持續的發生因為一來是傷害到了臺灣的綠電的形象國家的整體形象政府的整體形象二方面也是讓這些不孝的人在地方上不斷地用這樣的方式他提到什麼機關說卡就卡\n講到了什麼毫無道理的所求這是不是事實在我地方上我聽到有許多確實有這樣的狀況每個地方的狀況不一樣但是我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要找到一套制度面去做這個解決把這些組斷掉之後你才能夠讓有心來推動綠電的這些業者能夠持續的投入在台灣不然往往最後會變成是劣幣組良幣而且往往會讓整個綠電的發展將來遇到很大的一個困境\n是的,謝謝委員的垂詢這一部分我們都在討論那已經設置的辦法我們在這個綠電平台上面都有一些辦法讓業者可以這個非常穩健部長,什麼樣的辦法?也不知道再講得更具體一點那我是不是可以請市長跟你報告?\n跟委員報告第一個就是剛提到的所有的程序讓它公開透明化所以要把所有的這些標準訂出來所以行政院也要求經濟部跟農業部相關訂定這第一個第二個所有的大型的投資個案我們經濟部成立單一窗口來受理有任何的遇到任何投資的障礙或是投資的困難\n由我們單一窗口來受理第三個就是打擊綠能蟑螂的犯罪由經濟部跟法務部任何的這一些情資我們就送到這個平台裡面去做相關的一個偵查調查、偵查跟處理如果所有的業者的部分在投入這些裡面的他們所遇到的一些困難的時候我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要去介入去了解他們遇到的困難是什麼樣的問題\n如果他們遇到困難是遇到這種是綠電的蟑螂刻意的惡意去阻撓甚至於恐嚇甚至於去這種威脅的方式的話那這個經濟部門法務部就應該要採取行動我們認為應該主動因為所有有信號投資要做的其實你們也都清楚也都掌握到應該用這種單一窗口方式直接去協助才能夠嚇阻掉這些當這樣的方式更強力嚇阻這些人就不會去利用這個去賺取這些非法的利益這樣才有辦法讓\n整個投資恢復信心,同時間讓所有願意來投資這個綠電的人有信心啦好不好希望部長跟署長持綠我也希望每個月你們的執行狀況也一份報告給我這邊知道好嗎我也希望在綠電上面我們是持續有所進展來讓全世界知道台灣在支持在推動綠電上的一個決心的好不好部長每個月把你們的推行狀況給我一份報告\n是的,我們會把這些管制考核的部分送給...再來我上部長休息一下,我先請教一下江署長好不好\n來部長你先休息了謝謝首長我先請教其實我知道因為你過去長期也在美國待了一段時間包括加拿大然後長期在國貿我想問一下這一次的川普的當選對台灣真理上會有什麼樣的影響是謝謝委員的垂詢首先因為川普他是比較主張單邊的這個主義所以在貿易的部分應該會對全球都會有受影響\n那另外呢因為他有說之前在競選的期間有表達可能會對全世界的出口到美國的產品會加徵關稅10%的關稅所以如果萬一他實現了他的這個競選的這個這個政見的話其實會對全球出口\n美國都會有受到影響自然也會影響到美國境內相關產品的售價第三點因為他有表達說可能會對中國的產品課徵60%的關稅這個部分我們也在密切的關切當中我們認為說因為現在川普他才宣布當選\n那據這個他實際上任的時候還有一段時間所以我們會利用這個時間積極的來密切的注意川普他新政府他所採取的相關的經貿的政策那台灣有沒有什麼因應之道在面對他過去提出來的這些他的那個萬一他落實了他的那些想法的時候\n我想很重要的話是我們必須強化對美的貿易論述讓美國知道台灣是美國非常重要的供應鏈來源而且台灣跟美國在經貿部分其實在供應鏈部分是互補互利的\n尤其我們出口美國的大部分產品其實都是中間材這些中間材也是給美國的客戶來使用來運用來繼續的來製造相關的這個終端產品所以我們必須積極的來強化我們相關的論述首長那這樣\n臺美貿易倡議的部分協定的簽訂的話有沒有辦法在年底前來做生效?我們首批協定已經完成在國內的部分我們的法律程序已經完成現在最主要是要看美國的部分美國的部分會在年底前簽署嗎?美國必須要提出一個向國會提出報告\n那我們預計在提出報告之後必須要有一段時間來生效所以有可能會到明年嗎這個部分可能要看美國他國內的情形好 我們希望持續努力請持續再努力好 謝謝好 謝謝代理人委員請回座代理人委員難得那麼準時\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.396 --> 00:08.719\n請賴瑞榮委員好謝謝主席先請國部長請經濟部部長\n\n00:16.618 --> 00:38.897\n部長辛苦了部長我首先先請教一個問題其實綠電是我們未來的重要的一個方向對不對這個經濟部絕對是全力的發展綠電這也是未來的趨勢對不對是我看到最近有一篇報導其實也是跟我這幾年的感觸相當的就是說在發展綠電過程中的時候其實國家的政策\n\n00:39.657 --> 01:07.705\n鼓勵的政策包括甚至等購費率政策其實這個都是正確的在那加速但是也很多投入進來可是到了地方執行的時候遇到了很多的問題我看到現在很多的弊案都是幾乎是在地方執行上出了問題甚至遇到很多的綠店的蟑螂他要你就是你要取得土地你要取得所有這些的時候地方政府甚至有說地方的一些議會甚至有一些的黑道人士就介入部長這樣的問題要怎麼解決\n\n01:09.998 --> 01:27.674\n報告委員我們在這個應該是在10月份的時候這個院長我們行政院院長那就針對這個議題他直接到我們台南那在台南對這個所有的這個媒體都宣布\n\n01:29.208 --> 01:49.278\n未來對綠電的問題他絕不會允許任何的綠電蟑螂或者這些不法的廠商在臺灣再做下去所以他帶著經濟部、法務部、農業部直接到臺南去就這個命題公開的講\n\n01:51.559 --> 02:15.450\n不允許任何不法的行徑再繼續進行下去所以我們建立了一個平台經濟部、法務部跟地方政府我們希望大家可以在這個平台上面任何的不法都請檢舉任何在溝通上的困難透過這個平台大家來解決所以\n\n02:16.860 --> 02:37.233\n也許現在這個外商控訴臺灣發電這個困境我講是昨天的這個媒體在這個報導經濟部也有提出一個非常完整的這個說明這個是所以部長經濟部知道這件事情嘛對不對這樣的狀況在地方上在發生你知道嘛對不對但是我們\n\n02:39.370 --> 02:53.721\n認為只要有不法我們絕對嚴懲我要講的是這個裡面有許多部分確實是現在遇到的一些問題當然有些弊案也已經被抓出來那我希望經濟部站在前端就是應該在制度面上怎麼去做好\n\n02:54.201 --> 03:10.755\n不要讓那個弊端持續的發生因為一來是傷害到了臺灣的綠電的形象國家的整體形象政府的整體形象二方面也是讓這些不孝的人在地方上不斷地用這樣的方式他提到什麼機關說卡就卡\n\n03:11.796 --> 03:39.240\n講到了什麼毫無道理的所求這是不是事實在我地方上我聽到有許多確實有這樣的狀況每個地方的狀況不一樣但是我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要找到一套制度面去做這個解決把這些組斷掉之後你才能夠讓有心來推動綠電的這些業者能夠持續的投入在台灣不然往往最後會變成是劣幣組良幣而且往往會讓整個綠電的發展將來遇到很大的一個困境\n\n03:39.781 --> 03:56.823\n是的,謝謝委員的垂詢這一部分我們都在討論那已經設置的辦法我們在這個綠電平台上面都有一些辦法讓業者可以這個非常穩健部長,什麼樣的辦法?也不知道再講得更具體一點那我是不是可以請市長跟你報告?\n\n03:59.136 --> 04:16.861\n跟委員報告第一個就是剛提到的所有的程序讓它公開透明化所以要把所有的這些標準訂出來所以行政院也要求經濟部跟農業部相關訂定這第一個第二個所有的大型的投資個案我們經濟部成立單一窗口來受理有任何的遇到任何投資的障礙或是投資的困難\n\n04:17.581 --> 04:39.521\n由我們單一窗口來受理第三個就是打擊綠能蟑螂的犯罪由經濟部跟法務部任何的這一些情資我們就送到這個平台裡面去做相關的一個偵查調查、偵查跟處理如果所有的業者的部分在投入這些裡面的他們所遇到的一些困難的時候我認為其實經濟部跟法務部要去介入去了解他們遇到的困難是什麼樣的問題\n\n04:40.402 --> 05:09.303\n如果他們遇到困難是遇到這種是綠電的蟑螂刻意的惡意去阻撓甚至於恐嚇甚至於去這種威脅的方式的話那這個經濟部門法務部就應該要採取行動我們認為應該主動因為所有有信號投資要做的其實你們也都清楚也都掌握到應該用這種單一窗口方式直接去協助才能夠嚇阻掉這些當這樣的方式更強力嚇阻這些人就不會去利用這個去賺取這些非法的利益這樣才有辦法讓\n\n05:10.363 --> 05:32.859\n整個投資恢復信心,同時間讓所有願意來投資這個綠電的人有信心啦好不好希望部長跟署長持綠我也希望每個月你們的執行狀況也一份報告給我這邊知道好嗎我也希望在綠電上面我們是持續有所進展來讓全世界知道台灣在支持在推動綠電上的一個決心的好不好部長每個月把你們的推行狀況給我一份報告\n\n05:34.153 --> 05:41.811\n是的,我們會把這些管制考核的部分送給...再來我上部長休息一下,我先請教一下江署長好不好\n\n05:46.174 --> 06:10.696\n來部長你先休息了謝謝首長我先請教其實我知道因為你過去長期也在美國待了一段時間包括加拿大然後長期在國貿我想問一下這一次的川普的當選對台灣真理上會有什麼樣的影響是謝謝委員的垂詢首先因為川普他是比較主張單邊的這個主義所以在貿易的部分應該會對全球都會有受影響\n\n06:11.517 --> 06:23.903\n那另外呢因為他有說之前在競選的期間有表達可能會對全世界的出口到美國的產品會加徵關稅10%的關稅所以如果萬一他實現了他的這個競選的這個這個政見的話其實會對全球出口\n\n06:34.298 --> 06:41.325\n美國都會有受到影響自然也會影響到美國境內相關產品的售價第三點因為他有表達說可能會對中國的產品課徵60%的關稅這個部分我們也在密切的關切當中我們認為說因為現在川普他才宣布當選\n\n06:58.662 --> 07:19.063\n那據這個他實際上任的時候還有一段時間所以我們會利用這個時間積極的來密切的注意川普他新政府他所採取的相關的經貿的政策那台灣有沒有什麼因應之道在面對他過去提出來的這些他的那個萬一他落實了他的那些想法的時候\n\n07:19.454 --> 07:39.510\n我想很重要的話是我們必須強化對美的貿易論述讓美國知道台灣是美國非常重要的供應鏈來源而且台灣跟美國在經貿部分其實在供應鏈部分是互補互利的\n\n07:39.910 --> 07:51.461\n尤其我們出口美國的大部分產品其實都是中間材這些中間材也是給美國的客戶來使用來運用來繼續的來製造相關的這個終端產品所以我們必須積極的來強化我們相關的論述首長那這樣\n\n07:59.168 --> 08:21.601\n臺美貿易倡議的部分協定的簽訂的話有沒有辦法在年底前來做生效?我們首批協定已經完成在國內的部分我們的法律程序已經完成現在最主要是要看美國的部分美國的部分會在年底前簽署嗎?美國必須要提出一個向國會提出報告\n\n08:22.421 --> 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