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00:01:53,720\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n6\n00:02:10,379 --> 00:02:17,665\n第二、水電費暴增三倍113年度原民會辦公大樓水電費只有111萬元疫情前108年原民會辦公大樓水電預算是93萬元但114年的水電費竟然是358.7萬元暴增超過3倍除了你們的鄰居文化部114年的水電費只有113年多是4萬元\n\n7\n00:02:40,541 --> 00:03:04,449\n原住民委員會的水電費應市增加248萬元行政院不是說各部會要減減碳嗎?原住民委員會增加的水電費實在讓人匪夷所思納稅人的錢不能這樣用所以我想其實也針對以上的兩點提交一份預算增加的報告到本席的辦公室也讓民眾知道我們原住民委員會到底是怎麼花錢究竟把錢花在什麼地方\n\n8\n00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:22,877\n預算不是胡亂的編列該執行的都要執行也沒有好好執行其中你們這個一居部落的預算執行率只有7乘5我想當時是為了改善部落的居住安全以及能夠提升我們部落的居住環境整體性的來規劃\n\n9\n00:03:24,698 --> 00:03:33,621\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n10\n00:03:45,425 --> 00:03:52,067\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n11\n00:04:09,843 --> 00:04:19,649\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n12\n00:04:41,997 --> 00:05:08,267\n那這兩個部分主委您有沒有什麼要補充的首先我要跟委員報告一開始所講的那個淨化補償我想這個要謝謝我們卓院長也謝謝韓院長全力來協助這個事情謝謝各位委員的幫忙跟協助讓原住民可以這樣取得這個淨化補償那我想我也呼籲主任要更愛護我們自己的土地更保護我們的土地\n\n13\n00:05:08,687 --> 00:05:15,392\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n14\n00:05:37,307 --> 00:05:41,490\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n15\n00:06:03,308 --> 00:06:08,555\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n16\n00:06:21,718 --> 00:06:25,881\n主委根據黨產會114年的預算案黨產茶盒業務裡面編列了1173萬元相較於你去年度是編列1144萬增加了29萬2但是我們黨產茶盒業務在112年的執行率卻低於八成\n\n17\n00:06:40,231 --> 00:07:05,696\n截至113年8月底執行率未達到六成今年你的達成率沒有增加可是你今年預算要增加另外你114年的媒體政策及義務宣傳費也相較於上半年度增加約兩成還有114年的預算的出國計劃有四十二萬五千相較於上年度都是增加但仔細看我們考察計劃卻跟上年度的那種差不多\n\n18\n00:07:06,576 --> 00:07:15,038\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n19\n00:07:30,942 --> 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--> 00:23.982\n委員好主委好,一位教派一位教派主委長你應該沒有想過有一天議員會成為延宕總預算審查的一個主因我想最重要的原因還是因為對於立法三讀通過的建法補償每工錢6萬元而且經過總統公佈那中央既然沒有依法來編組我想這是漠視原住民的權益\n\n00:25.735 --> 00:53.424\n也因為執政黨的傲慢無視原住民無視於立法三讀通過的法律因此國民黨必須站出來集體的捍衛原住民的權益也要捍衛立法院的尊嚴我想因為沒有人知道如果今天政府犧牲的是原住民你下一次要犧牲誰那對於本席來說臺東其實有很多很多原住民的鄉親本身也有很多原住民的親朋好友因此對於捍衛原住民的權益本席絕對不會退讓\n\n00:54.892 --> 01:04.939\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n01:17.623 --> 01:42.631\n以下本期就舉原住民、我們移民會、武漢兵內預算的兩大現象跟主委來討論第一個就是我們媒體相關的費用的暴增依據我們立法院預算中心的報告我們原住民族委員會114年度原住民族教育推展之媒體政策及業務宣導預算相較於112年度的決算增加了大概是八成\n\n01:43.231 --> 01:53.720\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n02:10.379 --> 02:17.665\n第二、水電費暴增三倍113年度原民會辦公大樓水電費只有111萬元疫情前108年原民會辦公大樓水電預算是93萬元但114年的水電費竟然是358.7萬元暴增超過3倍除了你們的鄰居文化部114年的水電費只有113年多是4萬元\n\n02:40.541 --> 03:04.449\n原住民委員會的水電費應市增加248萬元行政院不是說各部會要減減碳嗎?原住民委員會增加的水電費實在讓人匪夷所思納稅人的錢不能這樣用所以我想其實也針對以上的兩點提交一份預算增加的報告到本席的辦公室也讓民眾知道我們原住民委員會到底是怎麼花錢究竟把錢花在什麼地方\n\n03:07.110 --> 03:22.877\n預算不是胡亂的編列該執行的都要執行也沒有好好執行其中你們這個一居部落的預算執行率只有7乘5我想當時是為了改善部落的居住安全以及能夠提升我們部落的居住環境整體性的來規劃\n\n03:24.698 --> 03:33.621\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n03:45.425 --> 03:52.067\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:09.843 --> 04:19.649\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:41.997 --> 05:08.267\n那這兩個部分主委您有沒有什麼要補充的首先我要跟委員報告一開始所講的那個淨化補償我想這個要謝謝我們卓院長也謝謝韓院長全力來協助這個事情謝謝各位委員的幫忙跟協助讓原住民可以這樣取得這個淨化補償那我想我也呼籲主任要更愛護我們自己的土地更保護我們的土地\n\n05:08.687 --> 05:15.392\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n05:37.307 --> 05:41.490\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n06:03.308 --> 06:08.555\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n06:21.718 --> 06:25.881\n主委根據黨產會114年的預算案黨產茶盒業務裡面編列了1173萬元相較於你去年度是編列1144萬增加了29萬2但是我們黨產茶盒業務在112年的執行率卻低於八成\n\n06:40.231 --> 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