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00:00:41,752\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n3\n00:00:57,027 --> 00:01:11,706\n我們原住民族語言研究發展基金會我們花了錢我們有做了原住民族語輸入法跟建制原住民族姓氏資料庫馬耀董事長是不是有這件事\n\n4\n00:01:16,045 --> 00:01:43,858\n跟委員說明是我們已經有研發完成研發完成對我再請教一下你說研發完成我們有處理這一塊對研發完成可以上線了沒有上線有提供在線上有做這種的服務來那鄭主委那有這一套系統我們有沒有去跟戶政事務所說我們有這套系統我們大家一起來看怎麼去使用\n\n5\n00:01:45,137 --> 00:02:02,848\n有,有,我們跟內政部都有一起來辦訓練什麼時候開始?從去年就已經開始在希望不是,什麼時候開始?然後有沒有跟復甄事務所大家說這套怎麼去使用?有沒有?\n\n6\n00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:13,560\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n7\n00:02:21,329 --> 00:02:24,131\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n8\n00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,584\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n9\n00:03:02,421 --> 00:03:25,650\n不是啊,我現在問曾主委,你們有沒有跟護證事務所開過會?你剛跟我說有啊有,跟護證人員的教育訓練有做過教育訓練那是,我說有沒有很正式的跟護證事務所,跟護證師齁這個還沒有,這個還沒有還沒有對嘛,你剛跟我回答以後我嚇一跳啊,因為我手頭上的資料就還沒有啊對不對\n\n10\n00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:42,044\n我要說的是你這套系統花了這麼多錢了應該要很正式的跟內政部我們有這套系統不然我忠實無所的同仁我怎麼知道我怎麼去使用我怎麼知道有這一套我覺得花了錢就要去用啦好不好\n\n11\n00:03:42,785 --> 00:03:47,949\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n12\n00:04:06,403 --> 00:04:08,985\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n13\n00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:46,254\n這個我們這個國立的原住民族這一個博物館然後跟我們的文化發展中心這個我們跟地方的全國29個原住民的博物館我們未來有沒有什麼合作或什麼互相提升的計畫\n\n14\n00:04:47,981 --> 00:05:13,999\n因為這個博物館我想跟我們地方29座的地方文化館還有我們文化園區的這個園區當然我們要有能夠合作因為未來的博物館它即便是策展即便是很多的這個展覽也必須要借助地方文化館跟原住民文化園區的文物還有人員所以我們已經在做一個希望未來怎麼樣來合作\n\n15\n00:05:15,395 --> 00:05:42,803\n我覺得啦我手頭上的你們自己的資料你們文化文化發展中心給地方的文化館一年補助一億一千六百一十六萬一年補助這麼多那未來我們這個國立的博物館我們應該是要一個架構一個最高然後地方的我們有那麼多不同的族群不同的族如何發展特色\n\n16\n00:05:43,868 --> 00:05:55,351\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n17\n00:06:05,486 --> 00:06:12,730\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n18\n00:06:29,500 --> 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--> 00:30.438\n阿主委這個阿剛剛有委員質詢有提到啦就是我們原住民族的姓氏常常在婦人事務所或什麼阿這個阿打不出來字阿或什麼很多原因阿造成我們這個姓氏的登記出了一些問題是不是是那有沒有想到有什麼辦法解決\n\n00:32.486 --> 00:41.752\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n00:57.027 --> 01:11.706\n我們原住民族語言研究發展基金會我們花了錢我們有做了原住民族語輸入法跟建制原住民族姓氏資料庫馬耀董事長是不是有這件事\n\n01:16.045 --> 01:43.858\n跟委員說明是我們已經有研發完成研發完成對我再請教一下你說研發完成我們有處理這一塊對研發完成可以上線了沒有上線有提供在線上有做這種的服務來那鄭主委那有這一套系統我們有沒有去跟戶政事務所說我們有這套系統我們大家一起來看怎麼去使用\n\n01:45.137 --> 02:02.848\n有,有,我們跟內政部都有一起來辦訓練什麼時候開始?從去年就已經開始在希望不是,什麼時候開始?然後有沒有跟復甄事務所大家說這套怎麼去使用?有沒有?\n\n02:04.870 --> 02:13.560\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n02:21.329 --> 02:24.131\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n02:40.200 --> 02:45.584\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n03:02.421 --> 03:25.650\n不是啊,我現在問曾主委,你們有沒有跟護證事務所開過會?你剛跟我說有啊有,跟護證人員的教育訓練有做過教育訓練那是,我說有沒有很正式的跟護證事務所,跟護證師齁這個還沒有,這個還沒有還沒有對嘛,你剛跟我回答以後我嚇一跳啊,因為我手頭上的資料就還沒有啊對不對\n\n03:26.770 --> 03:42.044\n我要說的是你這套系統花了這麼多錢了應該要很正式的跟內政部我們有這套系統不然我忠實無所的同仁我怎麼知道我怎麼去使用我怎麼知道有這一套我覺得花了錢就要去用啦好不好\n\n03:42.785 --> 03:47.949\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:06.403 --> 04:08.985\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n04:25.400 --> 04:46.254\n這個我們這個國立的原住民族這一個博物館然後跟我們的文化發展中心這個我們跟地方的全國29個原住民的博物館我們未來有沒有什麼合作或什麼互相提升的計畫\n\n04:47.981 --> 05:13.999\n因為這個博物館我想跟我們地方29座的地方文化館還有我們文化園區的這個園區當然我們要有能夠合作因為未來的博物館它即便是策展即便是很多的這個展覽也必須要借助地方文化館跟原住民文化園區的文物還有人員所以我們已經在做一個希望未來怎麼樣來合作\n\n05:15.395 --> 05:42.803\n我覺得啦我手頭上的你們自己的資料你們文化文化發展中心給地方的文化館一年補助一億一千六百一十六萬一年補助這麼多那未來我們這個國立的博物館我們應該是要一個架構一個最高然後地方的我們有那麼多不同的族群不同的族如何發展特色\n\n05:43.868 --> 05:55.351\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n06:05.486 --> 06:12.730\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n06:29.500 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對不對？我覺得不對。要思考如何吸引人家去，我要強調一件事，所有原住民的文化都是活的，它不是考古的，是可以讓人民去體驗的，民眾體驗過，有興趣的會再去，我覺得這部分要有一套啊。"],["曾主任委員智勇：是。跟委員報告，你剛剛講的一億多，我們最主要是用在地方文化館的策展人員，就是人的薪水，還有園區在做博物館服務的這些人員的訓練等等，剛剛委員講的就是希望未來怎麼樣來合作，我們會儘早，其實現在我們已經在討論未來要怎麼樣分工，是不是參考外國的博物館都有……"],["張委員宏陸：我跟你講，不要一天到晚說什麼這些，實際上就是有補助，有補助就應該要求，大家是一個共同體，我覺得你要有一個角度去處理事情，對不對？這樣子才是對的。"],["曾主任委員智勇：是。對。"],["張委員宏陸：然後平埔族，雖然現在有一些事情大家在討論，但平埔族的文化、平埔族的祭典，我不知道主委你熟不熟？"],["曾主任委員智勇：我參加過幾場平埔族的文化祭典，不一樣，因為一樣在屏東、在高雄也有平埔族，都一樣……"],["張委員宏陸：我的意思是說，都不一樣啦，不一樣，這種文化要不要留存？"],["曾主任委員智勇：要。"],["張委員宏陸：要嘛，對不對？"],["曾主任委員智勇：對。"],["張委員宏陸：所以，我才說你的地方原民館要有特色，要每個不一樣，對不對？"],["曾主任委員智勇：是。是。對。"],["張委員宏陸：主席，我再請一下不當黨產的林主委。"],["主席：請林主委。"],["張委員宏陸：你不要走，不要走，我沒有叫你走。"],["主席：曾主委請留下。"],["林主任委員峯正：委員好。"],["張委員宏陸：林主委，你們也去歐洲很多地方考察過很多，但一樣的在臺灣我們原住民整個文化這樣過來，他們其實也遭受了很多不公不義的事情，有沒有？"],["林主任委員峯正：因為本會主要是不當黨產……"],["張委員宏陸：不是，我不是要問黨產會的事。有沒有？"],["林主任委員峯正：當然有。"],["張委員宏陸：有嘛。你們去國外有考察過很多博物館，那裡面有很多這一些？"],["林主任委員峯正：是。有。"],["張委員宏陸：你們可不可以把資料給他們參考一下。我只要問你這個啦。"],["林主任委員峯正：我們可以順便注意一下，這是OK的。"],["張委員宏陸：這是OK的吧，你們去考察那麼多，我覺得錢都花了，這些資料應該共享吧？"],["林主任委員峯正：OK，可以、可以。"],["張委員宏陸：可以嘛。","曾主委，要跟林主委要這一些，他花那麼多錢去歐洲考察，你們不用考察就可以拿那麼多資料啦。"],["曾主任委員智勇：好。"],["張委員宏陸：可以作為你們的博物館的營運或其他方面的參考，好不好？可以齁？謝謝。"],["曾主任委員智勇：好。可以。"],["主席：謝謝張宏陸召委。"],["主席（張委員宏陸）：我們請李柏毅委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":282,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-15-8","speakers":["張宏陸","麥玉珍","王美惠","黃建賓","黃捷","牛煦庭","李柏毅","盧縣一","高金素梅","徐欣瑩","蘇巧慧","鄭天財Sra 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