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00:01:38,165\n張委員好謝謝院長就是說其實院長應該也非常了解我非常關注兒童所以上次我其實在兒童科普日還有院區開放日的時候不管是我或是我們的助理其實都有去但現場其實我可以感受到我們的研究團我們的研究人員我們這些院士對小孩的那個熱情跟傳授知識的那一種積極的態度還有幫孩子去規劃整個空間的那一種\n\n4\n00:01:39,468 --> 00:01:44,930\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府函．為11二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府函．為11二、審查114年度中央政府函．為11\n\n5\n00:02:01,838 --> 00:02:02,619\nbicyclone\n\n6\n00:02:18,112 --> 00:02:19,253\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案。\n\n7\n00:02:36,808 --> 00:02:54,482\n數理科學組生命科學組跟人文社會組那目前看起來人文社會組的場次呢我還是希望說我們是不是可以有一點點的增加因為我們現在可能都比較偏向科技類的東西我們是不是可以再微調多一點點的人文科技的人文的這個社會學的這個領域\n\n8\n00:02:57,321 --> 00:03:13,741\n那我也看到了一下就是說其實大家當天的滿意度也都是非常高就是大概有96成的民眾是滿意這次的活動那有97%的民眾都是表達我明年有意願再來參與這樣子的一個活動形式不過我還是想從這幾個數據來跟院長再多做一些討論啦就是說\n\n9\n00:03:17,225 --> 00:03:45,615\n我們的人次雖然增加了很多但是我們的參與度比較多還是來自於北部嘛我想這也是受限於場域的關係但我也知道11月9號也不過就是前天昨天前天對前天我們在南部也辦了這樣子的一個活動那之後不知道何時會有這些相關的數據問卷調查的結果是不是也可以提供到我們辦公室讓我們來了解我們是不是可以吸引到更有沒有更多的孩子一起來參與大概多久會有\n\n10\n00:03:47,136 --> 00:04:14,054\n多久會有?報告委員我這邊已經有初步的資料那南部呢?南部的調查的結果滿意度如何呢?對我們的滿意度也是高達98%那有96%表示願意明年再來那麼我們這個以這個人次而言呢今年的人次也超過了兩萬五千人次以上兩萬五千人次那今年有多少場次呢?在南部有三十五個場次\n\n11\n00:04:15,495 --> 00:04:41,321\n那我覺得從這個數據可以看到你看喔你35場次你吸引了25000人那可是我們25000人次嘛對不對那我們北部是100個場次吸引了5萬多人表示南部的吸引力非常大欸對不對更多人來嘛對不對你辦35場就來25000人所以我也希望明年這個需求很大市場需求蓬勃發展啦好不好我們一起來努力明年開南部更多的場次\n\n12\n00:04:43,321 --> 00:05:04,886\n再來就是說我們在這個我希望明年做的問卷調查我們可以在更詳盡的看到縣市的差異我們就可以了解到說是不是都非常集中在雙北我們是不是可以要多做一點宣傳在新竹那南部市只有集中在台南我們要怎麼樣拓展到高雄讓這個涵蓋率可以再更大一點不過我還有一件事情想要跟院長再來繼續討論就是說\n\n13\n00:05:27,381 --> 00:05:54,185\n那我也在想說我們戶外的空間是不是也可以做一些規劃因為小孩子在裡面等久了他想要出去跑一跑玩一玩我們是不是也有一些活動的規劃在外面讓小孩子可以短暫的去休息一下而不是站在那邊一直等這是不是也可以一併的來調整那這些精進的方案是不是有可能在多久一個月時間呢提供給我還是兩個月報告員秘書處長曾國祥可以在一個月以內提供給你\n\n14\n00:05:54,824 --> 00:06:10,304\n好謝謝那再來我還有一點也是想要再做討論的就是說我們其實有希望可以了解兒童的聲音因為這是第一次做6到12歲的部分嘛那但是我看了一下問卷回收只有17%是由兒童來填答的那我在想我們是不是因為我自己其實看了這個內容齁\n\n15\n00:06:11,786 --> 00:06:13,447\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案。\n\n16\n00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:55,225\n我到底我剛參加那一場到底跟你看生物化學研究室跟生物醫學科學研究室跟分子生物研究室小孩子的理解就是欸都有生物那到底我剛參加的是哪一場可能會搞不清楚我們是不是可以根據兒童的理解他們的視角來重新設計這份問卷明年才能夠去收集更多兒童真實的心聲呢\n\n17\n00:06:56,087 --> 00:07:18,858\n好,這個我們會再多做討論,並且請一些專家來幫忙,這可能不是我們的專業。好,沒關係,這個部分的話我也非常願意來跟中研院一起來討論,因為這剛好是我過去的專業。然後我最近的,剛好我去年做的一個案例呢,今年也剛好最近要頒獎了,得到一個影響力對話獎。所以我非常願意來協助中研院。好,謝謝委員。\n\n18\n00:07:20,138 --> 00:07:44,390\n再來就是說我們的科普日再進一步的在這個部分我們除了做問卷之外我們是不是可以這一次針對今年已經參加過的小孩我們可以來招募他們一起來做一個小型的執畫研究或是focusgroup的部分來了解明年我們可以怎麼樣更精進搞不好他們的意見就可以反映在我們的問卷裡面這部分我們是不是也可以一起來討論看起來我覺得院長都笑得很開心現場也都笑得很開心應該是沒有問題吧\n\n19\n00:07:45,796 --> 00:08:09,466\n這是看我們人力的規劃狀況我們當然很希望說能夠盡量投注但畢竟我們人力有限我們主要的工作仍然是在研究同仁都已經很有熱忱的播出時間來做這方面我們要看說我們怎麼樣把這個做得不再不影響研究的狀況之下把這做得更好\n\n20\n00:08:10,421 --> 00:08:37,059\n好喔,因為我想中研院一定也有做很多人文科學研究的專家啦。那也許我們也可以在這個一個月一併討論的,剛剛是說一個月之內提供給我一些精進的方案嘛。我們是不是也可以把這件事情納入來,或者是說約我們辦公室,我們再來詳細的討論,看我們可以怎麼樣子的來做,在不影響大家的工作的狀況之下,好嗎?好,謝謝。那再來就是說,再來我想要跟,我先跳舞一下好了,因為我時間可能不太夠。\n\n21\n00:08:39,229 --> 00:09:04,844\n就是說針對還是人文科學這個領域就是說我們現在在中研院其實是之前在受訪的時候有提到說因為這個AI會這個我們這個中研院有豐富的人文社會資料庫我們應該重視人文AI在人文社會科學領域的應用並反思AI對人類社會的衝擊那您也有提到說大量使用AI會牽扯到法律倫理道德等等的問題所以這就是為什麼我們要辦\n\n22\n00:09:32,259 --> 00:10:01,416\n我想問一下您目前對這個辦公室的規劃是什麼樣?可不可以簡單說明一下?對,我們這個辦公室有很多個區塊那比如AI合作社幫現在已經有的團隊來解決AI上的問題同時我們也積極規劃很多的訓練課程來訓練我們的研究人員及所有中央研究院的同仁包括行政同仁跟研究助理都一起來了解AI怎麼樣把AI用在實際的工作上面。報告時候院長我想要針對在人設領域的部分\n\n23\n00:10:02,737 --> 00:10:21,689\n我們也規劃一些專題的專案的研究把我們現有的資料庫怎麼樣AI化在AI化之前一定要有一個能夠用AI來自動辨識一些古籍能夠做這個字體的辨識這個是非常困難但是非常重要的一件事情\n\n24\n00:10:21,829 --> 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謝謝那再來我還有一點也是想要再做討論的就是說我們其實有希望可以了解兒童的聲音因為這是第一次做6到12歲的部分嘛那但是我看了一下問卷回收只有17%是由兒童來填答的那我在想我們是不是因為我自己其實看了這個內容齁\n371786\t373447\t三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案。\n394500\t415225\t我到底我剛參加那一場到底跟你看生物化學研究室跟生物醫學科學研究室跟分子生物研究室小孩子的理解就是欸都有生物那到底我剛參加的是哪一場可能會搞不清楚我們是不是可以根據兒童的理解他們的視角來重新設計這份問卷明年才能夠去收集更多兒童真實的心聲呢\n416087\t438858\t好,這個我們會再多做討論,並且請一些專家來幫忙,這可能不是我們的專業。好,沒關係,這個部分的話我也非常願意來跟中研院一起來討論,因為這剛好是我過去的專業。然後我最近的,剛好我去年做的一個案例呢,今年也剛好最近要頒獎了,得到一個影響力對話獎。所以我非常願意來協助中研院。好,謝謝委員。\n440138\t464390\t再來就是說我們的科普日再進一步的在這個部分我們除了做問卷之外我們是不是可以這一次針對今年已經參加過的小孩我們可以來招募他們一起來做一個小型的執畫研究或是focus group的部分來了解明年我們可以怎麼樣更精進搞不好他們的意見就可以反映在我們的問卷裡面這部分我們是不是也可以一起來討論看起來我覺得院長都笑得很開心現場也都笑得很開心應該是沒有問題吧\n465796\t489466\t這是看我們人力的規劃狀況我們當然很希望說能夠盡量投注但畢竟我們人力有限我們主要的工作仍然是在研究同仁都已經很有熱忱的播出時間來做這方面我們要看說我們怎麼樣把這個做得不再不影響研究的狀況之下把這做得更好\n490421\t517059\t好喔,因為我想中研院一定也有做很多人文科學研究的專家啦。那也許我們也可以在這個一個月一併討論的,剛剛是說一個月之內提供給我一些精進的方案嘛。我們是不是也可以把這件事情納入來,或者是說約我們辦公室,我們再來詳細的討論,看我們可以怎麼樣子的來做,在不影響大家的工作的狀況之下,好嗎?好,謝謝。那再來就是說,再來我想要跟,我先跳舞一下好了,因為我時間可能不太夠。\n519229\t544844\t就是說針對還是人文科學這個領域就是說我們現在在中研院其實是之前在受訪的時候有提到說因為這個AI會這個我們這個中研院有豐富的人文社會資料庫我們應該重視人文AI在人文社會科學領域的應用並反思AI對人類社會的衝擊那您也有提到說大量使用AI會牽扯到法律倫理道德等等的問題所以這就是為什麼我們要辦\n546305\t572039\t獲獲獲獲獲獲獲獲\n572259\t601416\t我想問一下您目前對這個辦公室的規劃是什麼樣?可不可以簡單說明一下?對,我們這個辦公室有很多個區塊那比如AI合作社幫現在已經有的團隊來解決AI上的問題同時我們也積極規劃很多的訓練課程來訓練我們的研究人員及所有中央研究院的同仁包括行政同仁跟研究助理都一起來了解AI怎麼樣把AI用在實際的工作上面。報告時候院長我想要針對在人設領域的部分\n602737\t621689\t我們也規劃一些專題的專案的研究把我們現有的資料庫怎麼樣AI化在AI化之前一定要有一個能夠用AI來自動辨識一些古籍能夠做這個字體的辨識這個是非常困難但是非常重要的一件事情\n621829\t623330\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府總預算案有關\n639991\t664411\t獲獲獲獲獲獲獲獲\n","txt":"謝謝主席。抱歉我的螢幕好像影片還沒有出來。我的螢幕這邊沒有影片。\n好,可以了。謝謝。好,那我們有請院長。有請院長。\n張委員好謝謝院長就是說其實院長應該也非常了解我非常關注兒童所以上次我其實在兒童科普日還有院區開放日的時候不管是我或是我們的助理其實都有去但現場其實我可以感受到我們的研究團我們的研究人員我們這些院士對小孩的那個熱情跟傳授知識的那一種積極的態度還有幫孩子去規劃整個空間的那一種\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府函．為11二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府函．為11二、審查114年度中央政府函．為11\nbicyclone\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案。\n數理科學組生命科學組跟人文社會組那目前看起來人文社會組的場次呢我還是希望說我們是不是可以有一點點的增加因為我們現在可能都比較偏向科技類的東西我們是不是可以再微調多一點點的人文科技的人文的這個社會學的這個領域\n那我也看到了一下就是說其實大家當天的滿意度也都是非常高就是大概有96成的民眾是滿意這次的活動那有97%的民眾都是表達我明年有意願再來參與這樣子的一個活動形式不過我還是想從這幾個數據來跟院長再多做一些討論啦就是說\n我們的人次雖然增加了很多但是我們的參與度比較多還是來自於北部嘛我想這也是受限於場域的關係但我也知道11月9號也不過就是前天昨天前天對前天我們在南部也辦了這樣子的一個活動那之後不知道何時會有這些相關的數據問卷調查的結果是不是也可以提供到我們辦公室讓我們來了解我們是不是可以吸引到更有沒有更多的孩子一起來參與大概多久會有\n多久會有?報告委員我這邊已經有初步的資料那南部呢?南部的調查的結果滿意度如何呢?對我們的滿意度也是高達98%那有96%表示願意明年再來那麼我們這個以這個人次而言呢今年的人次也超過了兩萬五千人次以上兩萬五千人次那今年有多少場次呢?在南部有三十五個場次\n那我覺得從這個數據可以看到你看喔你35場次你吸引了25000人那可是我們25000人次嘛對不對那我們北部是100個場次吸引了5萬多人表示南部的吸引力非常大欸對不對更多人來嘛對不對你辦35場就來25000人所以我也希望明年這個需求很大市場需求蓬勃發展啦好不好我們一起來努力明年開南部更多的場次\n再來就是說我們在這個我希望明年做的問卷調查我們可以在更詳盡的看到縣市的差異我們就可以了解到說是不是都非常集中在雙北我們是不是可以要多做一點宣傳在新竹那南部市只有集中在台南我們要怎麼樣拓展到高雄讓這個涵蓋率可以再更大一點不過我還有一件事情想要跟院長再來繼續討論就是說\n對。\n那我也在想說我們戶外的空間是不是也可以做一些規劃因為小孩子在裡面等久了他想要出去跑一跑玩一玩我們是不是也有一些活動的規劃在外面讓小孩子可以短暫的去休息一下而不是站在那邊一直等這是不是也可以一併的來調整那這些精進的方案是不是有可能在多久一個月時間呢提供給我還是兩個月報告員秘書處長曾國祥可以在一個月以內提供給你\n好 謝謝那再來我還有一點也是想要再做討論的就是說我們其實有希望可以了解兒童的聲音因為這是第一次做6到12歲的部分嘛那但是我看了一下問卷回收只有17%是由兒童來填答的那我在想我們是不是因為我自己其實看了這個內容齁\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案。\n我到底我剛參加那一場到底跟你看生物化學研究室跟生物醫學科學研究室跟分子生物研究室小孩子的理解就是欸都有生物那到底我剛參加的是哪一場可能會搞不清楚我們是不是可以根據兒童的理解他們的視角來重新設計這份問卷明年才能夠去收集更多兒童真實的心聲呢\n好,這個我們會再多做討論,並且請一些專家來幫忙,這可能不是我們的專業。好,沒關係,這個部分的話我也非常願意來跟中研院一起來討論,因為這剛好是我過去的專業。然後我最近的,剛好我去年做的一個案例呢,今年也剛好最近要頒獎了,得到一個影響力對話獎。所以我非常願意來協助中研院。好,謝謝委員。\n再來就是說我們的科普日再進一步的在這個部分我們除了做問卷之外我們是不是可以這一次針對今年已經參加過的小孩我們可以來招募他們一起來做一個小型的執畫研究或是focus group的部分來了解明年我們可以怎麼樣更精進搞不好他們的意見就可以反映在我們的問卷裡面這部分我們是不是也可以一起來討論看起來我覺得院長都笑得很開心現場也都笑得很開心應該是沒有問題吧\n這是看我們人力的規劃狀況我們當然很希望說能夠盡量投注但畢竟我們人力有限我們主要的工作仍然是在研究同仁都已經很有熱忱的播出時間來做這方面我們要看說我們怎麼樣把這個做得不再不影響研究的狀況之下把這做得更好\n好喔,因為我想中研院一定也有做很多人文科學研究的專家啦。那也許我們也可以在這個一個月一併討論的,剛剛是說一個月之內提供給我一些精進的方案嘛。我們是不是也可以把這件事情納入來,或者是說約我們辦公室,我們再來詳細的討論,看我們可以怎麼樣子的來做,在不影響大家的工作的狀況之下,好嗎?好,謝謝。那再來就是說,再來我想要跟,我先跳舞一下好了,因為我時間可能不太夠。\n就是說針對還是人文科學這個領域就是說我們現在在中研院其實是之前在受訪的時候有提到說因為這個AI會這個我們這個中研院有豐富的人文社會資料庫我們應該重視人文AI在人文社會科學領域的應用並反思AI對人類社會的衝擊那您也有提到說大量使用AI會牽扯到法律倫理道德等等的問題所以這就是為什麼我們要辦\n獲獲獲獲獲獲獲獲\n我想問一下您目前對這個辦公室的規劃是什麼樣?可不可以簡單說明一下?對,我們這個辦公室有很多個區塊那比如AI合作社幫現在已經有的團隊來解決AI上的問題同時我們也積極規劃很多的訓練課程來訓練我們的研究人員及所有中央研究院的同仁包括行政同仁跟研究助理都一起來了解AI怎麼樣把AI用在實際的工作上面。報告時候院長我想要針對在人設領域的部分\n我們也規劃一些專題的專案的研究把我們現有的資料庫怎麼樣AI化在AI化之前一定要有一個能夠用AI來自動辨識一些古籍能夠做這個字體的辨識這個是非常困難但是非常重要的一件事情\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央政府總預算案有關\n獲獲獲獲獲獲獲獲\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:15.032 --> 00:22.177\n謝謝主席。抱歉我的螢幕好像影片還沒有出來。我的螢幕這邊沒有影片。\n\n01:01.266 --> 01:04.868\n好,可以了。謝謝。好,那我們有請院長。有請院長。\n\n01:09.771 --> 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