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--> 00:00:26,275\n我其實每一次原民會來內政委員會做備詢做業務報告我其實是蠻開心的因為我們原住民的立委就有一個特權可以好好的問到底\n\n2\n00:00:27,355 --> 00:00:39,646\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n3\n00:00:53,755 --> 00:01:02,758\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n4\n00:01:12,915 --> 00:01:22,361\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n5\n00:01:38,231 --> 00:02:04,461\n去做舊有房屋的一個申請我在這邊說謝謝但是新的問題又來了這個要請原民會來處理我以前也質詢過好幾次一直沒有回應沒有結果那就是我們好多的族人跟我講說委員可不可以質詢原民會以前的那個原住民國宅啊那個很好餒為什麼沒有了\n\n6\n00:02:05,661 --> 00:02:13,288\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n7\n00:02:31,913 --> 00:02:56,296\n八、委員因為自從住宅法公布事情之後已經沒有國宅政策只有社會住宅所以現在推的都是社會住宅處長這樣子我要怎麼交代我諮詢過好幾次你們都跟我說會來研議這個是預算會期我就沒看到啊八、委員研議結果的確現在沒有國宅這個政策那你們不能夠用新興計畫嗎\n\n8\n00:02:57,617 --> 00:03:02,198\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n9\n00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:36,056\n這個是我們族人講了十幾年非常在意的一個議題\n\n10\n00:03:46,514 --> 00:03:50,718\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n11\n00:04:09,878 --> 00:04:12,761\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n12\n00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:31,371\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n13\n00:04:44,258 --> 00:05:09,959\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n14\n00:05:13,166 --> 00:05:23,029\n有沒有原住民的展覽內容啊?有沒有原住民的商品展售啊?有沒有原住民的這一些我們的歌舞的這個演出?沒有餒。後來我有協調會議記錄了。我不曉得你們有沒有遵照這個外貿協會有沒有來跟你們談。\n\n15\n00:05:37,089 --> 00:05:56,426\n有齁,不過我們現在得到的答案是外貿協會說他們的場地不適合做樂舞的表演說他們的場地非常的小我們協調會的時候說在外面對,就是在外面,就是在外面的場地都非常小原民會不能妥協\n\n16\n00:05:57,387 --> 00:06:07,456\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n17\n00:06:23,988 --> 00:06:31,136\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分\n\n18\n00:06:45,922 --> 00:06:54,709\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n19\n00:07:11,141 --> 00:07:16,886\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n20\n00:07:28,456 --> 00:07:30,377\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n21\n00:07:46,761 --> 00:07:49,984\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n22\n00:08:09,643 --> 00:08:18,527\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n23\n00:08:30,362 --> 00:08:35,328\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n24\n00:08:51,265 --> 00:09:03,154\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n25\n00:09:20,950 --> 00:09:30,233\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n26\n00:09:49,127 --> 00:09:55,030\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n27\n00:10:14,386 --> 00:10:27,713\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n28\n00:10:44,778 --> 00:10:46,680\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n29\n00:11:04,701 --> 00:11:08,844\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n30\n00:11:26,482 --> 00:11:46,857\n已經沈俊也在上周三協商雖然破局要送院長黨團協商我現在想要問啦我把你們隔天叫到我辦公室啊不得了啊我說我也要所知我要從第一屆華家治主委到一將主委的我也要所知\n\n31\n00:11:48,413 --> 00:11:54,579\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n32\n00:12:11,229 --> 00:12:19,976\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n33\n00:12:42,844 --> 00:12:45,506\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n34\n00:13:07,745 --> 00:13:11,308\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n35\n00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,242\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n36\n00:14:04,281 --> 00:14:16,729\n我希望你們要好好的想一想整個荒腔走板你們明明有聘用委員、派監委員、聘監委員這一些聘用委員拿掉變成無幾職之後他還叫兼任委員嗎?然後他的工作內容要調整嗎?你們還讓人家給的資料唸出來說他們只會參加婚喪喜慶\n\n37\n00:14:28,510 --> 00:14:34,858\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n38\n00:14:47,273 --> 00:14:50,034\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n39\n00:15:15,077 --> 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地都非常小原民會不能妥協\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n已經沈俊也在上周三協商雖然破局要送院長黨團協商我現在想要問啦我把你們隔天叫到我辦公室啊不得了啊我說我也要所知我要從第一屆華家治主委到一將主委的我也要所知\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n我希望你們要好好的想一想整個荒腔走板你們明明有聘用委員、派監委員、聘監委員這一些聘用委員拿掉變成無幾職之後他還叫兼任委員嗎?然後他的工作內容要調整嗎?你們還讓人家給的資料唸出來說他們只會參加婚喪喜慶\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.891 --> 00:26.275\n我其實每一次原民會來內政委員會做備詢做業務報告我其實是蠻開心的因為我們原住民的立委就有一個特權可以好好的問到底\n\n00:27.355 --> 00:39.646\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n00:53.755 --> 01:02.758\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n01:12.915 --> 01:22.361\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n01:38.231 --> 02:04.461\n去做舊有房屋的一個申請我在這邊說謝謝但是新的問題又來了這個要請原民會來處理我以前也質詢過好幾次一直沒有回應沒有結果那就是我們好多的族人跟我講說委員可不可以質詢原民會以前的那個原住民國宅啊那個很好餒為什麼沒有了\n\n02:05.661 --> 02:13.288\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n02:31.913 --> 02:56.296\n八、委員因為自從住宅法公布事情之後已經沒有國宅政策只有社會住宅所以現在推的都是社會住宅處長這樣子我要怎麼交代我諮詢過好幾次你們都跟我說會來研議這個是預算會期我就沒看到啊八、委員研議結果的確現在沒有國宅這個政策那你們不能夠用新興計畫嗎\n\n02:57.617 --> 03:02.198\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n03:31.511 --> 03:36.056\n這個是我們族人講了十幾年非常在意的一個議題\n\n03:46.514 --> 03:50.718\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:09.878 --> 04:12.761\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:30.290 --> 04:31.371\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n04:44.258 --> 05:09.959\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n05:13.166 --> 05:23.029\n有沒有原住民的展覽內容啊?有沒有原住民的商品展售啊?有沒有原住民的這一些我們的歌舞的這個演出?沒有餒。後來我有協調會議記錄了。我不曉得你們有沒有遵照這個外貿協會有沒有來跟你們談。\n\n05:37.089 --> 05:56.426\n有齁,不過我們現在得到的答案是外貿協會說他們的場地不適合做樂舞的表演說他們的場地非常的小我們協調會的時候說在外面對,就是在外面,就是在外面的場地都非常小原民會不能妥協\n\n05:57.387 --> 06:07.456\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n06:23.988 --> 06:31.136\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分關於原住民族文化發展中心部分\n\n06:45.922 --> 06:54.709\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n07:11.141 --> 07:16.886\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n07:28.456 --> 07:30.377\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n07:46.761 --> 07:49.984\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n08:09.643 --> 08:18.527\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n08:30.362 --> 08:35.328\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n08:51.265 --> 09:03.154\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n09:20.950 --> 09:30.233\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n09:49.127 --> 09:55.030\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n10:14.386 --> 10:27.713\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n10:44.778 --> 10:46.680\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n11:04.701 --> 11:08.844\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n11:26.482 --> 11:46.857\n已經沈俊也在上周三協商雖然破局要送院長黨團協商我現在想要問啦我把你們隔天叫到我辦公室啊不得了啊我說我也要所知我要從第一屆華家治主委到一將主委的我也要所知\n\n11:48.413 --> 11:54.579\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n12:11.229 --> 12:19.976\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n12:42.844 --> 12:45.506\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n13:07.745 --> 13:11.308\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算基金\n\n13:36.200 --> 13:40.242\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金\n\n14:04.281 --> 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Tahovecahe委員：原民會不能妥協。"],["陳處長坤昇：我們沒有辦法妥協，可是現在就是在場地上，如果他們沒有辦法克服，我們沒有辦法去……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：外面。"],["陳處長坤昇：我們會再跟他協調，看他的場地怎麼做調整。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：我覺得原民會存在的價值就是要捍衛原住民族的權益，我希望這個部分要堅持好不好？"],["陳處長坤昇：好。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：有問題再跟我說。","再來，我一直很關心的，疫情一開始爆發的時候，所有原住民部落不約而同，每一個部落在部落的門口都設立一個自主檢疫站，那是志工型的，所以我特別開了一個線上記者會，謝謝勞動部，他們立刻給我們開出叫做安心上工，每一個禮拜20個小時，用時薪，疫情期間幫助了很多的部落安心上工，疫情結束，有時候這個政策也會延續，但是我質詢過兩次，我認為為了促進我們原住民的地方就業、地方創生、人才回流，我有提過，部落那些洗腎的病患非常多，你們都比我清楚，他們每個禮拜洗腎3次，根本沒有辦法工作，也找不到工作，但是他們不是沒有能力工作，多少的青年，我們政府的政策叫他們回來種咖啡，叫他們回來做露營區，結果發現根本養不活太太、小孩，不久又回到都市地區。所以我常說我們應該要在部落開設一些像安心上工這種每個禮拜20小時，開給誰呢？部落可以去上文化課，我們的社區可以做彩繪，很多的工作可以幫助我們的部落變得更好，也讓這些人可以留在部落，我不曉得計畫名稱要叫什麼，都可以！我只是想要知道到底有沒有動靜？"],["曾主任委員智勇：跟委員報告，目前這個計畫，我們已經在研擬當中，而且它現在暫定的名稱叫做原地即時就業計畫。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：所以有？有編列經費嗎？"],["曾主任委員智勇：有。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：所以今年的預算書看得到嗎？"],["曾主任委員智勇：我們願意來爭取。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝。","再來，我在第1會期院會總質詢，我有跟卓院長提到我們賴清德總統的政見，我希望原住民族學校法，至少要有一個原住民族學校的試辦計畫；我也提到部落公法人，在原住民自治法沒有完成之前，至少部落公法人也要趕快試辦上路。我也想問一下，有進度嗎？"],["曾主任委員智勇：有，我們明年至少要有一個地方來試辦。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：經費有編列嗎？"],["曾主任委員智勇：有。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝。詳細的情形，因為時間的關係，我就不多問了。","再來，請教一下，我也很關心原保條例，我要再講一次，如果我當召委、如果我是黨團幹部，原住民的權益法案對我來講，最重要的就是原保條例，但是很可惜，原民會，行政院主動想推，始終打假球，大家天天都想要新增劃編土地分配，結果真正要解決根本的原保條例卻不處理，我希望原民會要拿出決心，現在禁伐補償過了，6萬元版本也是我提的，但是我其實想先處理原保條例，你們從上個屆期沒有成功，原保條例很重要啊！我要唸給大家聽，如果有在聽質詢的，要不然大家不知道它的重要。萬年租約可以解決，那些林保署很多非原住民的租約可以解決，借名登記可以解決，我們很多的教會、宗教團體取得土地登記可以解決，部落未來可以有公有的原保地做為部落公法人原住民自治推動的基礎啊！我們永久屋的基地、這些舊部落，我們都可以拿回來做增劃編，多麼重要的一部法啊！結果只想著趕快新增劃編，你前面根源都沒有準備好，我們後面在幹什麼，我們的土地一筆一筆在流失，已經流失一百年了，沒有多少土地，就像現在不到十分之一的人可以領禁伐補償，其中二分之一的人也不知道是誰，所以原民會要拿出決心。"],["杜張副主任委員梅莊：跟委員報告，原保條例我們預計在年底前會送到行政院……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，年底前喔！我們來看誰打假球。","主席，不好意思！我最後一題，跟我個人有關，所以我還是要講一下。其實我要問一下原民會，司法委員會已經把你們原民會的組織法審竣，也在上週三協商，雖然破局，要送院長黨團協商。我現在想要問，隔天我把你們叫到我辦公室，不得了啊！我說我也要索資，我要從第1屆華加志主委到夷將主委的，我也要索資，結果你們很誠實的告訴我拿不出來，因為以前的主委都是只有直接給決定的名單報行政院。曾智勇Ljaucu主委，你知不知道你是第一個真的在做審查的人啊？"],["曾主任委員智勇：知道。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：你知道？那你知不知道你給出來的資料亂七八糟？"],["曾主任委員智勇：這點我們會檢討，我們提出來的這些資料有一些誤植了，對不起。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：我講一下，我們以前也沒有人對這個有意見，就像網友看不下去，也幫我找，你看人家的委員，莫拉克風災他們還可以跟立委到中國見胡錦濤，而你們在搶災，我們如果要挖……但是沒有人會在意這個，因為這是主委的權利，我們只在意你們的遴選作業辦法、那些族群委員的工作內容，結果你看你們提供的資料，嚇死我了！竟然有阿美族──我根本不認識的人，他的推薦人寫伍麗華，這是有人要整我嗎？"],["曾主任委員智勇：對不起，這是誤植了，跟委員抱歉，這個是誤植，我們內部會檢討。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，我就跟你就事論事，審查機制沒有推薦人，連大法官自薦、推薦都還要跟他們切結，而且按照法律，蒐集個資的特定目的消失、已做完審查時，你要停止使用資料，結果你們還可以給出去，真的，你們的螺絲非常的鬆！我不知道該怎麼講，但是我要講一個重點，你們的1,700萬要準備被刪了，你們要把16個族群的主體性，有人要毀了，原民會要拿出態度、拿出決心，我們不要把個人的事情加諸在族群的尊嚴跟主體上，我希望你們要好好的想一想，整個荒腔走板，你們明明有聘用委員、派兼委員、聘兼委員，這一些聘用委員拿掉變成無給職之後，他還叫兼任委員嗎？然後他的工作內容要調整嗎？你們還讓人家給的資料唸出來，說他們只會參加婚喪喜慶！你們要好好做說明。"],["曾主任委員智勇：是。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：你們以後改以車馬費、出席費支應，在協商以前，到我的辦公室提供，幫我算一下他們要完成那些工作內容要支應多少車馬費、出席費，麻煩算一下，我要知道每個人一個月要花多少錢。"],["曾主任委員智勇：好。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：如果要改成裁掉你們的編制員額，法定是198人，現在只有166人，還沒有足額進用，如果你要派計畫型人力、約聘僱人員，也麻煩提報用人計畫，我說如果真的三讀通過被刪掉，這是歷史要記錄的。"],["曾主任委員智勇：我想不要刪掉，因為這個是很重要，因為……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：那你們要想辦法啊！想辦法啊！你們要去協商、要去談啊！"],["曾主任委員智勇：是、是、是。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：我言盡於此。"],["曾主任委員智勇：好，我們會盡全力。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，辛苦主委，謝謝主席。"],["曾主任委員智勇：謝謝。"],["主席：請陳瑩委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":282,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-15-8","speakers":["張宏陸","麥玉珍","王美惠","黃建賓","黃捷","牛煦庭","李柏毅","盧縣一","高金素梅","徐欣瑩","蘇巧慧","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","黃國昌","張智倫","林倩綺","吳琪銘","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","陳瑩","許宇甄","黃仁","丁學忠"],"page_start":165,"meetingDate":["2024-11-11"],"gazette_id":"1139601","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1139601_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢；二、審查 114年度中\n央政府總預算案關於原住民族委員會、原住民族文化發展中心部分；三、審查 114年度中央政府\n總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於原住民族委員會主管作業基金─原住民族綜合發展基金；\n四、審查原住民族委員會函送財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會及財團法人原住民族語言研究發\n展基金會114年度預算書案；五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於不當黨產處理委員會單位預\n算","agenda_id":"1139601_00003"}}}