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00:01:52,273\n剛好說過這個其實在國會是跨黨派都支持你看在眾議院的時候都無意義的通過在參院的時候因為是包裹法案是另外一個法案的一些細節的部分有部分委員有爭議所以以至於我們包裹在裡面這個案子沒有辦法往前推進那至於後續的推進的進度我想我們財政部會跟外交部\n\n6\n00:01:54,955 --> 00:02:15,636\n以及駐美代表處會持續的一直去做相關的一些關切以及瞭解那我們財政部跟美方的行政部門其實一直就技術面的工作是一直在進行當中因為雙方的稅法必須要進一步的釐清跟瞭解那對未來恰恰ADTA都可以有一些幫助跟加快進展\n\n7\n00:02:16,317 --> 00:02:41,009\n部長,就本期了解共和黨參眾院兩位議員則質疑拜登政府的宣布是出於政治考量並非真正致力於提供快速的稅務減免那請問共和黨完全執政之後你對ADTA推動你有什麼看法?\n\n8\n00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:58,234\n剛剛也提過就是跨黨派基本都支持這個案那當然有部分那個國會議員對於拜登政府在10月28、29號的時候有提著一份聲明也就是希望能夠加快這個ADTA的一個洽簽這個部分\n\n9\n00:02:59,634 --> 00:03:17,075\n我想這是他們國內的一些政治上的一些議題但是不管是跨黨派的議員或者行政部門以及民間的企業台美雙方民間企業以及個人跨境投資上對這個案子都是殷切的期盼我想這個部分對於推進上是有助力的\n\n10\n00:03:17,335 --> 00:03:36,292\n那個部長因為民主黨變成在野之後會不會像去年在野的共和黨繼續拿這個美台租稅協定當作政治上的籌碼會不會我想這個部分他們國內政治我們沒有辦法去做評論是部長是\n\n11\n00:03:38,908 --> 00:04:01,367\n川普在美國大選期間曾提出對盟友和競爭對手課徵高關稅以保護美國的經濟台灣至於是美國堅定的盟友但是盟友被剝削、出賣也不是沒有先例我請問部長\n\n12\n00:04:04,660 --> 00:04:15,891\n財政部有沒有評估過川普高關稅政策成真對台灣到底有沒有什麼影響跟委員報告就是說當然新當選的川普總統在競選期間\n\n13\n00:04:19,097 --> 00:04:37,667\n所一些政見那最後到他就任以後是1月20號以後對於這些政見如何落實在他的政策以及在時程上的推估這個目前來說我們是持續密切的觀察那我問請教政府你們有沒有什麼因應啊這個並且協助國內這些產業與民生經濟你們有沒有想法\n\n14\n00:04:42,810 --> 00:05:06,104\n政府部門因應國際間的一些政經情勢的變化事實上是一直都在關切以及有相關的一些因應的措施比如說在產業的部分淨零數位的雙升級這些轉軸以及對於市場的一些擴大我想這個部分政府是一直都在做的那因應為了新的變局當然也會有新的做法\n\n15\n00:05:07,660 --> 00:05:24,749\n因為媒體報導有學者研判美國會單邊來推動貿易政策而且自由貿易已死川普追求公平貿易但公平標準由美國他們來定義以下有幾個問題我來請教部長\n\n16\n00:05:27,531 --> 00:05:46,790\n學者對川普未來貿易政策的看法本席認為或許本來就是進行式只不過川普上任後是不是會加速推動川普的高關稅政策更是呼應兩年前台積電創辦人張忠謀表示\n\n17\n00:05:49,753 --> 00:06:06,413\n全球化已死的看法那我請問部長張忠謀一再重生全球全球化已死到底對台有哪些產業有利有哪些產業不利您的看法勒\n\n18\n00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:33,652\n跟委員報告當然這個貿易政策上的一些變動當然會跟產業的布局會有關係那也就是剛剛委員剛剛所提它事實上是一個進行式那我們在產業的布局上其實您也知道供應鏈都在重組那在一些出口的數據上都產生一些變化不管是出口的市場上也都有一些很不同的一些消長我想這個部分一定大家會因應著這個整體國際經濟情勢而做相關的調整\n\n19\n00:06:37,855 --> 00:06:50,708\n因為近年來台灣對美國的出口和順差都在增加當中那川普深信如果要吸引企業回流美國就必須對美國所有進口品來加徵關稅\n\n20\n00:06:53,371 --> 00:07:16,725\n那再搭配國內減稅的政策請問部長川普高關稅的政策是不是會對台灣出口美國來發生這個衝擊會不會我想一個國家任何的一個貿易政策對於其他國家尤其經貿往來密切的都會有一些影響那這幾年其實我們看\n\n21\n00:07:17,305 --> 00:07:37,001\n主要市場在美國市場上其實是都有說上升而在我們在中國大陸及香港的部分是事實上是減的也就因應整個國際情勢的變化供應鏈會做調整那出口的市場也好貨品也好都會有一些不同的一些變化那這幾年因為AI的一個興起所以我們在資通訊跟\n\n22\n00:07:38,002 --> 00:07:46,775\n市廷產品的部分事實上是應運這個情勢而上升的是非常快的在這個部分是成長的幅度是非常高的那你認為會不會發生全球關稅壁壘\n\n23\n00:07:49,306 --> 00:08:08,420\n這個部分我覺得應該持續的觀察部長美國高關稅政策恐怕難逃過因為中國商務部上個月又指控台灣對中國貿易限制措施構成貿易壁壘按照財政部統計今年\n\n24\n00:08:09,541 --> 00:08:37,603\n前三季我國對中國和香港的出口占我們出口比重31.2%對美國的出口占我們出口的比重24.1%部長5乘5以上國內出口的占比都是在美國跟中國兩國那請問你認為國內出口商要怎麼樣來因應到底財政部有沒有\n\n25\n00:08:38,564 --> 00:08:54,910\n估計會有哪些稅損有沒有你們有沒有估計過這個部分跟稅損的關係以及產業之間怎麼樣在調整第一個產業的主管機關是經濟部那他們會這個部分也有國貿署他們會做這個部分那你們有未雨綢繆嗎我們的業與綢繆當然就本部的業務部分我們會就進出口的一些數據海關所收集的這些數據它的貨品的種類\n\n26\n00:09:05,214 --> 00:09:21,309\n以及出口市場主要的一些消長的情形可以做分析做調可以提供給產業主管機關以及產業做一些參考資料那你也知道像我們在東協的部分事實上也有所成長所以這個市場上事實上它是在變動的\n\n27\n00:09:22,170 --> 00:09:34,995\n那個部長如果全球化已死是事實現在有個名詞叫做全球在地化以下有幾個問題我來請教部長對於全球在地化你有什麼看法\n\n28\n00:09:36,723 --> 00:10:02,833\n全球在地化我覺得這個是各個國家所採取的政策那至於在相關的產業成本上會有什麼樣的一個變動我覺得產業會去做更好的一個調試跟估算台灣的產業想要在全世界做生意雖然加入區域經濟組織和簽署自由貿易協定有必要但是這些年台灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定\n\n29\n00:10:04,834 --> 00:10:19,465\n這個看得出來困難度非常的高那部長如果全球在地化逐漸成為各地經濟的模式請問你認為大型產業、中小型產業應該要怎麼樣去因應呢?\n\n30\n00:10:21,367 --> 00:10:40,288\n跟對外簽訂所謂自由貿易協定這個是由我們經貿辦公室在做主政那至於產業對於有關全球產業的在地化這個部分的因應其實我們台灣就是一個供應鏈其實是一個非常完整不是一個單一的某一家公司某一個產業事實上它的上下游其實都有關聯的\n\n31\n00:10:42,171 --> 00:10:51,436\n因為因應變局政府推動各個時代產業的轉型有其必要但是要因應全球在地化請問部長你認為未來\n\n32\n00:10:54,557 --> 00:11:16,247\n各類型產業是不是多半會趨向大者恆大本期瞭解除了金融業有多家成立控股公司金融併購逐漸變多之外上市櫃公司也越來越多是集團公司或成立投資控股公司\n\n33\n00:11:18,548 --> 00:11:44,974\n請問你認為中小企業是不是只能依附大型企業才能夠生存?又或者你認為其他的方式可以生存?有什麼方式?中小企業有中小企業它的一個靈活度跟彈性它生存當然還有它的生存的一個存在價值這樣喔?是好,其他我下次再問謝謝德湖委員,接著請吳秉瑞委員發言\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2659\t26255\t謝謝主席是不是請那個財政部莊部長好請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對於台美租稅協定的推動時程本席多次也在財委會這個質詢請教部長我想以下有幾個問題想請教部長\n28700\t49405\t因為第一個就是美國大選川普勝選那參眾兩院席次極有可能是共和黨完全執政那你說財政部會密切聯繫ADTA進展那美國大選後會有進一步的這個\n51927\t59790\t進步啦進度啦那請問你認為川普勝選對ADTA推動有機會加速嗎跟委員報告台美之間洽簽ADTA這個事情是民間的企業還有個人在做跨境投資跟營運的時候非常關切的事情因為這可以解決超額稅負以及雙重課稅的問題\n77956\t87968\t所以這麼多年來他們都非常的關注那麼在美國的部分不管是他們的行政部門以及國會是跨黨派都是支持這個案那支持你認為會停職還是會不會因為川普當選以後有負面的變數會不會\n94456\t112273\t剛好說過這個其實在國會是跨黨派都支持你看在眾議院的時候都無意義的通過在參院的時候因為是包裹法案是另外一個法案的一些細節的部分有部分委員有爭議所以以至於我們包裹在裡面這個案子沒有辦法往前推進那至於後續的推進的進度我想我們財政部會跟外交部\n114955\t135636\t以及駐美代表處會持續的一直去做相關的一些關切以及瞭解那我們財政部跟美方的行政部門其實一直就技術面的工作是一直在進行當中因為雙方的稅法必須要進一步的釐清跟瞭解那對未來恰恰ADTA都可以有一些幫助跟加快進展\n136317\t161009\t部長,就本期了解共和黨參眾院兩位議員則質疑拜登政府的宣布是出於政治考量並非真正致力於提供快速的稅務減免那請問共和黨完全執政之後你對ADTA推動你有什麼看法?\n162729\t178234\t剛剛也提過就是跨黨派基本都支持這個案那當然有部分那個國會議員對於拜登政府在10月28、29號的時候有提著一份聲明也就是希望能夠加快這個ADTA的一個洽簽這個部分\n179634\t197075\t我想這是他們國內的一些政治上的一些議題但是不管是跨黨派的議員或者行政部門以及民間的企業台美雙方民間企業以及個人跨境投資上對這個案子都是殷切的期盼我想這個部分對於推進上是有助力的\n197335\t216292\t那個部長因為民主黨變成在野之後會不會像去年在野的共和黨繼續拿這個美台租稅協定當作政治上的籌碼會不會我想這個部分他們國內政治我們沒有辦法去做評論是部長是\n218908\t241367\t川普在美國大選期間曾提出對盟友和競爭對手課徵高關稅以保護美國的經濟台灣至於是美國堅定的盟友但是盟友被剝削、出賣也不是沒有先例我請問部長\n244660\t255891\t財政部有沒有評估過川普高關稅政策成真對台灣到底有沒有什麼影響跟委員報告就是說當然新當選的川普總統在競選期間\n259097\t277667\t所一些政見那最後到他就任以後是1月20號以後對於這些政見如何落實在他的政策以及在時程上的推估這個目前來說我們是持續密切的觀察那我問請教政府你們有沒有什麼因應啊這個並且協助國內這些產業與民生經濟你們有沒有想法\n282810\t306104\t政府部門因應國際間的一些政經情勢的變化事實上是一直都在關切以及有相關的一些因應的措施比如說在產業的部分淨零數位的雙升級這些轉軸以及對於市場的一些擴大我想這個部分政府是一直都在做的那因應為了新的變局當然也會有新的做法\n307660\t324749\t因為媒體報導有學者研判美國會單邊來推動貿易政策而且自由貿易已死川普追求公平貿易但公平標準由美國他們來定義以下有幾個問題我來請教部長\n327531\t346790\t學者對川普未來貿易政策的看法本席認為或許本來就是進行式只不過川普上任後是不是會加速推動川普的高關稅政策更是呼應兩年前台積電創辦人張忠謀表示\n349753\t366413\t全球化已死的看法那我請問部長張忠謀一再重生全球全球化已死到底對台有哪些產業有利有哪些產業不利您的看法勒\n367534\t393652\t跟委員報告當然這個貿易政策上的一些變動當然會跟產業的布局會有關係那也就是剛剛委員剛剛所提它事實上是一個進行式那我們在產業的布局上其實您也知道供應鏈都在重組那在一些出口的數據上都產生一些變化不管是出口的市場上也都有一些很不同的一些消長我想這個部分一定大家會因應著這個整體國際經濟情勢而做相關的調整\n397855\t410708\t因為近年來台灣對美國的出口和順差都在增加當中那川普深信如果要吸引企業回流美國就必須對美國所有進口品來加徵關稅\n413371\t436725\t那再搭配國內減稅的政策請問部長川普高關稅的政策是不是會對台灣出口美國來發生這個衝擊會不會我想一個國家任何的一個貿易政策對於其他國家尤其經貿往來密切的都會有一些影響那這幾年其實我們看\n437305\t457001\t主要市場在美國市場上其實是都有說上升而在我們在中國大陸及香港的部分是事實上是減的也就因應整個國際情勢的變化供應鏈會做調整那出口的市場也好貨品也好都會有一些不同的一些變化那這幾年因為AI的一個興起所以我們在資通訊跟\n458002\t466775\t市廷產品的部分事實上是應運這個情勢而上升的是非常快的在這個部分是成長的幅度是非常高的那你認為會不會發生全球關稅壁壘\n469306\t488420\t這個部分我覺得應該持續的觀察部長美國高關稅政策恐怕難逃過因為中國商務部上個月又指控台灣對中國貿易限制措施構成貿易壁壘按照財政部統計今年\n489541\t517603\t前三季我國對中國和香港的出口占我們出口比重31.2%對美國的出口占我們出口的比重24.1%部長5乘5以上國內出口的占比都是在美國跟中國兩國那請問你認為國內出口商要怎麼樣來因應到底財政部有沒有\n518564\t534910\t估計會有哪些稅損有沒有你們有沒有估計過這個部分跟稅損的關係以及產業之間怎麼樣在調整第一個產業的主管機關是經濟部那他們會這個部分也有國貿署他們會做這個部分那你們有未雨綢繆嗎我們的業與綢繆當然就本部的業務部分我們會就進出口的一些數據海關所收集的這些數據它的貨品的種類\n545214\t561309\t以及出口市場主要的一些消長的情形可以做分析做調可以提供給產業主管機關以及產業做一些參考資料那你也知道像我們在東協的部分事實上也有所成長所以這個市場上事實上它是在變動的\n562170\t574995\t那個部長如果全球化已死是事實現在有個名詞叫做全球在地化以下有幾個問題我來請教部長對於全球在地化你有什麼看法\n576723\t602833\t全球在地化我覺得這個是各個國家所採取的政策那至於在相關的產業成本上會有什麼樣的一個變動我覺得產業會去做更好的一個調試跟估算台灣的產業想要在全世界做生意雖然加入區域經濟組織和簽署自由貿易協定有必要但是這些年台灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定\n604834\t619465\t這個看得出來困難度非常的高那部長如果全球在地化逐漸成為各地經濟的模式請問你認為大型產業、中小型產業應該要怎麼樣去因應呢?\n621367\t640288\t跟對外簽訂所謂自由貿易協定這個是由我們經貿辦公室在做主政那至於產業對於有關全球產業的在地化這個部分的因應其實我們台灣就是一個供應鏈其實是一個非常完整不是一個單一的某一家公司某一個產業事實上它的上下游其實都有關聯的\n642171\t651436\t因為因應變局政府推動各個時代產業的轉型有其必要但是要因應全球在地化請問部長你認為未來\n654557\t676247\t各類型產業是不是多半會趨向大者恆大本期瞭解除了金融業有多家成立控股公司金融併購逐漸變多之外上市櫃公司也越來越多是集團公司或成立投資控股公司\n678548\t704974\t請問你認為中小企業是不是只能依附大型企業才能夠生存?又或者你認為其他的方式可以生存?有什麼方式?中小企業有中小企業它的一個靈活度跟彈性它生存當然還有它的生存的一個存在價值這樣喔?是好,其他我下次再問謝謝德湖委員,接著請吳秉瑞委員發言\n","txt":"謝謝主席是不是請那個財政部莊部長好請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對於台美租稅協定的推動時程本席多次也在財委會這個質詢請教部長我想以下有幾個問題想請教部長\n因為第一個就是美國大選川普勝選那參眾兩院席次極有可能是共和黨完全執政那你說財政部會密切聯繫ADTA進展那美國大選後會有進一步的這個\n進步啦進度啦那請問你認為川普勝選對ADTA推動有機會加速嗎跟委員報告台美之間洽簽ADTA這個事情是民間的企業還有個人在做跨境投資跟營運的時候非常關切的事情因為這可以解決超額稅負以及雙重課稅的問題\n所以這麼多年來他們都非常的關注那麼在美國的部分不管是他們的行政部門以及國會是跨黨派都是支持這個案那支持你認為會停職還是會不會因為川普當選以後有負面的變數會不會\n剛好說過這個其實在國會是跨黨派都支持你看在眾議院的時候都無意義的通過在參院的時候因為是包裹法案是另外一個法案的一些細節的部分有部分委員有爭議所以以至於我們包裹在裡面這個案子沒有辦法往前推進那至於後續的推進的進度我想我們財政部會跟外交部\n以及駐美代表處會持續的一直去做相關的一些關切以及瞭解那我們財政部跟美方的行政部門其實一直就技術面的工作是一直在進行當中因為雙方的稅法必須要進一步的釐清跟瞭解那對未來恰恰ADTA都可以有一些幫助跟加快進展\n部長,就本期了解共和黨參眾院兩位議員則質疑拜登政府的宣布是出於政治考量並非真正致力於提供快速的稅務減免那請問共和黨完全執政之後你對ADTA推動你有什麼看法?\n剛剛也提過就是跨黨派基本都支持這個案那當然有部分那個國會議員對於拜登政府在10月28、29號的時候有提著一份聲明也就是希望能夠加快這個ADTA的一個洽簽這個部分\n我想這是他們國內的一些政治上的一些議題但是不管是跨黨派的議員或者行政部門以及民間的企業台美雙方民間企業以及個人跨境投資上對這個案子都是殷切的期盼我想這個部分對於推進上是有助力的\n那個部長因為民主黨變成在野之後會不會像去年在野的共和黨繼續拿這個美台租稅協定當作政治上的籌碼會不會我想這個部分他們國內政治我們沒有辦法去做評論是部長是\n川普在美國大選期間曾提出對盟友和競爭對手課徵高關稅以保護美國的經濟台灣至於是美國堅定的盟友但是盟友被剝削、出賣也不是沒有先例我請問部長\n財政部有沒有評估過川普高關稅政策成真對台灣到底有沒有什麼影響跟委員報告就是說當然新當選的川普總統在競選期間\n所一些政見那最後到他就任以後是1月20號以後對於這些政見如何落實在他的政策以及在時程上的推估這個目前來說我們是持續密切的觀察那我問請教政府你們有沒有什麼因應啊這個並且協助國內這些產業與民生經濟你們有沒有想法\n政府部門因應國際間的一些政經情勢的變化事實上是一直都在關切以及有相關的一些因應的措施比如說在產業的部分淨零數位的雙升級這些轉軸以及對於市場的一些擴大我想這個部分政府是一直都在做的那因應為了新的變局當然也會有新的做法\n因為媒體報導有學者研判美國會單邊來推動貿易政策而且自由貿易已死川普追求公平貿易但公平標準由美國他們來定義以下有幾個問題我來請教部長\n學者對川普未來貿易政策的看法本席認為或許本來就是進行式只不過川普上任後是不是會加速推動川普的高關稅政策更是呼應兩年前台積電創辦人張忠謀表示\n全球化已死的看法那我請問部長張忠謀一再重生全球全球化已死到底對台有哪些產業有利有哪些產業不利您的看法勒\n跟委員報告當然這個貿易政策上的一些變動當然會跟產業的布局會有關係那也就是剛剛委員剛剛所提它事實上是一個進行式那我們在產業的布局上其實您也知道供應鏈都在重組那在一些出口的數據上都產生一些變化不管是出口的市場上也都有一些很不同的一些消長我想這個部分一定大家會因應著這個整體國際經濟情勢而做相關的調整\n因為近年來台灣對美國的出口和順差都在增加當中那川普深信如果要吸引企業回流美國就必須對美國所有進口品來加徵關稅\n那再搭配國內減稅的政策請問部長川普高關稅的政策是不是會對台灣出口美國來發生這個衝擊會不會我想一個國家任何的一個貿易政策對於其他國家尤其經貿往來密切的都會有一些影響那這幾年其實我們看\n主要市場在美國市場上其實是都有說上升而在我們在中國大陸及香港的部分是事實上是減的也就因應整個國際情勢的變化供應鏈會做調整那出口的市場也好貨品也好都會有一些不同的一些變化那這幾年因為AI的一個興起所以我們在資通訊跟\n市廷產品的部分事實上是應運這個情勢而上升的是非常快的在這個部分是成長的幅度是非常高的那你認為會不會發生全球關稅壁壘\n這個部分我覺得應該持續的觀察部長美國高關稅政策恐怕難逃過因為中國商務部上個月又指控台灣對中國貿易限制措施構成貿易壁壘按照財政部統計今年\n前三季我國對中國和香港的出口占我們出口比重31.2%對美國的出口占我們出口的比重24.1%部長5乘5以上國內出口的占比都是在美國跟中國兩國那請問你認為國內出口商要怎麼樣來因應到底財政部有沒有\n估計會有哪些稅損有沒有你們有沒有估計過這個部分跟稅損的關係以及產業之間怎麼樣在調整第一個產業的主管機關是經濟部那他們會這個部分也有國貿署他們會做這個部分那你們有未雨綢繆嗎我們的業與綢繆當然就本部的業務部分我們會就進出口的一些數據海關所收集的這些數據它的貨品的種類\n以及出口市場主要的一些消長的情形可以做分析做調可以提供給產業主管機關以及產業做一些參考資料那你也知道像我們在東協的部分事實上也有所成長所以這個市場上事實上它是在變動的\n那個部長如果全球化已死是事實現在有個名詞叫做全球在地化以下有幾個問題我來請教部長對於全球在地化你有什麼看法\n全球在地化我覺得這個是各個國家所採取的政策那至於在相關的產業成本上會有什麼樣的一個變動我覺得產業會去做更好的一個調試跟估算台灣的產業想要在全世界做生意雖然加入區域經濟組織和簽署自由貿易協定有必要但是這些年台灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定\n這個看得出來困難度非常的高那部長如果全球在地化逐漸成為各地經濟的模式請問你認為大型產業、中小型產業應該要怎麼樣去因應呢?\n跟對外簽訂所謂自由貿易協定這個是由我們經貿辦公室在做主政那至於產業對於有關全球產業的在地化這個部分的因應其實我們台灣就是一個供應鏈其實是一個非常完整不是一個單一的某一家公司某一個產業事實上它的上下游其實都有關聯的\n因為因應變局政府推動各個時代產業的轉型有其必要但是要因應全球在地化請問部長你認為未來\n各類型產業是不是多半會趨向大者恆大本期瞭解除了金融業有多家成立控股公司金融併購逐漸變多之外上市櫃公司也越來越多是集團公司或成立投資控股公司\n請問你認為中小企業是不是只能依附大型企業才能夠生存?又或者你認為其他的方式可以生存?有什麼方式?中小企業有中小企業它的一個靈活度跟彈性它生存當然還有它的生存的一個存在價值這樣喔?是好,其他我下次再問謝謝德湖委員,接著請吳秉瑞委員發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.659 --> 00:26.255\n謝謝主席是不是請那個財政部莊部長好請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對於台美租稅協定的推動時程本席多次也在財委會這個質詢請教部長我想以下有幾個問題想請教部長\n\n00:28.700 --> 00:49.405\n因為第一個就是美國大選川普勝選那參眾兩院席次極有可能是共和黨完全執政那你說財政部會密切聯繫ADTA進展那美國大選後會有進一步的這個\n\n00:51.927 --> 00:59.790\n進步啦進度啦那請問你認為川普勝選對ADTA推動有機會加速嗎跟委員報告台美之間洽簽ADTA這個事情是民間的企業還有個人在做跨境投資跟營運的時候非常關切的事情因為這可以解決超額稅負以及雙重課稅的問題\n\n01:17.956 --> 01:27.968\n所以這麼多年來他們都非常的關注那麼在美國的部分不管是他們的行政部門以及國會是跨黨派都是支持這個案那支持你認為會停職還是會不會因為川普當選以後有負面的變數會不會\n\n01:34.456 --> 01:52.273\n剛好說過這個其實在國會是跨黨派都支持你看在眾議院的時候都無意義的通過在參院的時候因為是包裹法案是另外一個法案的一些細節的部分有部分委員有爭議所以以至於我們包裹在裡面這個案子沒有辦法往前推進那至於後續的推進的進度我想我們財政部會跟外交部\n\n01:54.955 --> 02:15.636\n以及駐美代表處會持續的一直去做相關的一些關切以及瞭解那我們財政部跟美方的行政部門其實一直就技術面的工作是一直在進行當中因為雙方的稅法必須要進一步的釐清跟瞭解那對未來恰恰ADTA都可以有一些幫助跟加快進展\n\n02:16.317 --> 02:41.009\n部長,就本期了解共和黨參眾院兩位議員則質疑拜登政府的宣布是出於政治考量並非真正致力於提供快速的稅務減免那請問共和黨完全執政之後你對ADTA推動你有什麼看法?\n\n02:42.729 --> 02:58.234\n剛剛也提過就是跨黨派基本都支持這個案那當然有部分那個國會議員對於拜登政府在10月28、29號的時候有提著一份聲明也就是希望能夠加快這個ADTA的一個洽簽這個部分\n\n02:59.634 --> 03:17.075\n我想這是他們國內的一些政治上的一些議題但是不管是跨黨派的議員或者行政部門以及民間的企業台美雙方民間企業以及個人跨境投資上對這個案子都是殷切的期盼我想這個部分對於推進上是有助力的\n\n03:17.335 --> 03:36.292\n那個部長因為民主黨變成在野之後會不會像去年在野的共和黨繼續拿這個美台租稅協定當作政治上的籌碼會不會我想這個部分他們國內政治我們沒有辦法去做評論是部長是\n\n03:38.908 --> 04:01.367\n川普在美國大選期間曾提出對盟友和競爭對手課徵高關稅以保護美國的經濟台灣至於是美國堅定的盟友但是盟友被剝削、出賣也不是沒有先例我請問部長\n\n04:04.660 --> 04:15.891\n財政部有沒有評估過川普高關稅政策成真對台灣到底有沒有什麼影響跟委員報告就是說當然新當選的川普總統在競選期間\n\n04:19.097 --> 04:37.667\n所一些政見那最後到他就任以後是1月20號以後對於這些政見如何落實在他的政策以及在時程上的推估這個目前來說我們是持續密切的觀察那我問請教政府你們有沒有什麼因應啊這個並且協助國內這些產業與民生經濟你們有沒有想法\n\n04:42.810 --> 05:06.104\n政府部門因應國際間的一些政經情勢的變化事實上是一直都在關切以及有相關的一些因應的措施比如說在產業的部分淨零數位的雙升級這些轉軸以及對於市場的一些擴大我想這個部分政府是一直都在做的那因應為了新的變局當然也會有新的做法\n\n05:07.660 --> 05:24.749\n因為媒體報導有學者研判美國會單邊來推動貿易政策而且自由貿易已死川普追求公平貿易但公平標準由美國他們來定義以下有幾個問題我來請教部長\n\n05:27.531 --> 05:46.790\n學者對川普未來貿易政策的看法本席認為或許本來就是進行式只不過川普上任後是不是會加速推動川普的高關稅政策更是呼應兩年前台積電創辦人張忠謀表示\n\n05:49.753 --> 06:06.413\n全球化已死的看法那我請問部長張忠謀一再重生全球全球化已死到底對台有哪些產業有利有哪些產業不利您的看法勒\n\n06:07.534 --> 06:33.652\n跟委員報告當然這個貿易政策上的一些變動當然會跟產業的布局會有關係那也就是剛剛委員剛剛所提它事實上是一個進行式那我們在產業的布局上其實您也知道供應鏈都在重組那在一些出口的數據上都產生一些變化不管是出口的市場上也都有一些很不同的一些消長我想這個部分一定大家會因應著這個整體國際經濟情勢而做相關的調整\n\n06:37.855 --> 06:50.708\n因為近年來台灣對美國的出口和順差都在增加當中那川普深信如果要吸引企業回流美國就必須對美國所有進口品來加徵關稅\n\n06:53.371 --> 07:16.725\n那再搭配國內減稅的政策請問部長川普高關稅的政策是不是會對台灣出口美國來發生這個衝擊會不會我想一個國家任何的一個貿易政策對於其他國家尤其經貿往來密切的都會有一些影響那這幾年其實我們看\n\n07:17.305 --> 07:37.001\n主要市場在美國市場上其實是都有說上升而在我們在中國大陸及香港的部分是事實上是減的也就因應整個國際情勢的變化供應鏈會做調整那出口的市場也好貨品也好都會有一些不同的一些變化那這幾年因為AI的一個興起所以我們在資通訊跟\n\n07:38.002 --> 07:46.775\n市廷產品的部分事實上是應運這個情勢而上升的是非常快的在這個部分是成長的幅度是非常高的那你認為會不會發生全球關稅壁壘\n\n07:49.306 --> 08:08.420\n這個部分我覺得應該持續的觀察部長美國高關稅政策恐怕難逃過因為中國商務部上個月又指控台灣對中國貿易限制措施構成貿易壁壘按照財政部統計今年\n\n08:09.541 --> 08:37.603\n前三季我國對中國和香港的出口占我們出口比重31.2%對美國的出口占我們出口的比重24.1%部長5乘5以上國內出口的占比都是在美國跟中國兩國那請問你認為國內出口商要怎麼樣來因應到底財政部有沒有\n\n08:38.564 --> 08:54.910\n估計會有哪些稅損有沒有你們有沒有估計過這個部分跟稅損的關係以及產業之間怎麼樣在調整第一個產業的主管機關是經濟部那他們會這個部分也有國貿署他們會做這個部分那你們有未雨綢繆嗎我們的業與綢繆當然就本部的業務部分我們會就進出口的一些數據海關所收集的這些數據它的貨品的種類\n\n09:05.214 --> 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推動有什麼看法？"],["莊部長翠雲：我剛剛也提過，跨黨派基本上都支持這個案子，當然有部分國會議員對於拜登政府在10月29日提出的一份聲明，也就是希望能夠加快ADTA洽簽部分，我認為這是他們國內政治上的一些議題，但是不管是跨黨派議員、行政部門、臺美雙方民間企業以及個人跨境投資上，對這個案子都是殷切的期盼，這個部分對於推進上是有助力的。"],["林委員德福：部長，民主黨變成在野之後，會不會像去年在野的共和黨，繼續拿美臺租稅協定當作政治上的籌碼？"],["莊部長翠雲：我想這個部分是他們的國內政治，我們沒有辦法去做評論。"],["林委員德福：川普在美國大選期間曾提出對盟友和競爭對手課徵高關稅，以保護美國經濟，臺灣自詡是美國堅定的盟友，但是盟友被剝削、出賣也不是沒有先例。請問部長，財政部有沒有評估過川普的高關稅政策成真對臺灣有沒有什麼影響？"],["莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，新當選的川普總統在競選期間所提出的一些政見，最後在他1月20日就任以後，對於這些政見如何落實在他的政策以及在時程上的推估，目前來說，我們是持續密切的觀察。"],["林委員德福：請教政府有沒有什麼因應，並且協助國內這些產業與民生經濟，你們有沒有想法？"],["莊部長翠雲：政府部門因應國際間的一些政經情勢變化，事實上是一直都在關切以及有相關一些因應措施，譬如在產業部分，淨零、數位雙升級以及對於市場的一些擴大，這個部分政府是一直都在做的，因應未來新的變局，當然也會有新的作法。"],["林委員德福：媒體報導有學者研判美國會單邊來推動貿易政策，而且自由貿易已死，川普追求的是公平貿易，但公平標準由美國他們來定義。以下有幾個問題要請教部長，學者對川普未來貿易政策的看法，本席認為或許本來就是進行式，只不過川普上任後，是不是會加速推動川普的高關稅政策，更是呼應兩年前台積電創辦人張忠謀表示全球化已死的看法。請問部長，張忠謀一再重申全球化已死，到底對臺有哪些產業有利、有哪些產業不利，您的看法呢？"],["莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，貿易政策上的一些變動當然會跟產業布局有關係，也就是委員剛剛所提的，它事實上是一個進行式，我們在產業布局上，其實您也知道，供應鏈都在重組，在出口數據上都產生一些變化，不管是出口市場上也都有一些不同的消長，我想這個部分大家一定會因應整體國際經濟情勢而作相關的調整。"],["林委員德福：近年來臺灣對美國的出口和順差都在增加當中，川普深信如果要吸引企業回流美國，就必須對美國所有的進口品加徵關稅，再搭配國內減稅的政策。請問部長，川普的高關稅政策是不是會對臺灣出口美國發生衝擊？"],["莊部長翠雲：一個國家任何的貿易政策，對於其他國家，尤其經貿往來密切的都會有一些影響，這幾年我們在主要市場、美國市場上其實都有上升，而在我們在中國大陸及香港的部分事實上是減的，也就是因應整個國際情勢的變化，供應鏈會做調整，出口市場或貨品都會有一些不同的變化。這幾年因為AI的興起，所以我們在資通訊與視聽產品的部分，事實上因應這個情勢而上升的非常快，在這個部分的成長幅度是非常高的。"],["林委員德福：你認為會不會發生全球關稅壁壘？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分我覺得應該持續觀察。"],["林委員德福：部長，美國高關稅政策恐怕難逃過，因為中國商務部上個月又指控臺灣對中國貿易限制措施構成貿易壁壘。按照財政部統計，今年前三季我國對中國和香港的出口占出口比重31.2%，對美國出口占我國出口比重24.1%，國內出口占比有五成五以上都是在美國和中國兩國，請問你認為國內出口商要怎麼因應？財政部到底有沒有估計過會有哪些稅損？你們有沒有估計過？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分與稅損的關係，以及產業之間怎麼樣調整，第一個，產業的主管機關是經濟部，他們在這個部分也有國貿署會做相關的因應。"],["林委員德福：你們有未雨綢繆嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：我們的未雨綢繆，關於本部的業務部分，我們會就一些進出口數據、海關所蒐集的這些數據、貨品種類以及出口市場主要的消長情形做分析，可以提供給產業主管機關及產業作為參考資料。你也知道，像我們在東協的部分，事實上也有所成長，所以市場上是在變動的。"],["林委員德福：如果全球化已死是事實，現在有個名詞叫做全球在地化，以下有幾個問題要請教部長，對於全球在地化，你有什麼看法？"],["莊部長翠雲：全球在地化，我覺得是各個國家所採取的政策，至於在相關的產業成本上會有什麼變動，產業會去做更好的調適和估算。"],["林委員德福：臺灣的產業想要在全世界做生意，雖然加入區域經濟組織和簽署自由貿易協定有必要，但是這些年臺灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定，看得出來困難度非常的高。部長，如果全球在地化逐漸成為各地經濟的模式，請問你認為大型產業、中小型產業應該要怎麼樣去因應呢？"],["莊部長翠雲：對外簽訂所謂的自由貿易協定是由我們經貿辦公室在主政。至於產業對於有關全球產業在地化這個部分的因應，其實我們臺灣的供應鏈非常完整，不是單一的某一家公司或某一個產業，事實上，它的上下游其實都有關聯的。"],["林委員德福：因應變局，政府推動各個時代的產業轉型有其必要，但是要因應全球在地化，請問部長，你認為未來各類型產業是不是多半會趨向大者恆大？本席了解除了金融業有多家成立控股公司、金融併購逐漸變多之外，上市櫃公司也越來越多是集團公司或成立投資控股公司，請問你認為中小企業是不是只能依附大型企業才能夠生存？又或者你認為有其他方式可以生存？有什麼方式？"],["莊部長翠雲：中小企業有中小企業它的靈活度跟彈性，當然它有它的存在價值。"],["林委員德福：好，其他的我下次再問。"],["莊部長翠雲：是。"],["主席：謝謝林德福委員。","接著請吳秉叡委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":172,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-8","speakers":["賴惠員","王鴻薇","賴士葆","陳玉珍","羅明才","李彥秀","顏寬恒","陳菁徽","黃珊珊","林德福","吳秉叡","郭國文","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","李坤城","王世堅","羅廷瑋","羅智強","洪孟楷","黃國昌","陳培瑜","蔡其昌"],"page_start":13,"meetingDate":["2024-11-13"],"gazette_id":"11310002","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310002_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查「貨物稅條例」11 案：( 一 ) 行政院函請審議、本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員張智倫等 17\n人、委員賴士葆等26人、委員蔡其昌等18人、委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等19人、委員陳\n冠廷等23人、委員陳菁徽等16人、委員賴惠員等18人分別擬具「貨物稅條例第十二條條文修正草\n案」等9案、(二)本院委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「貨物稅條例第十二條及第十二條之三條文修正草\n案」案、(三)本院委員郭國文等16人擬具「貨物稅條例第十二條及第十二條之六條文修正草案」\n案；二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關財政部及所屬單位歲入預算部分。（僅詢\n答）；三、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關財政部、國庫署、財政資訊中心歲出預\n算部分。（僅詢答）；四、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分有\n關財政部主管債務基金─中央政府債務基金。（僅詢答）","agenda_id":"11310002_00002"}}}