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00:04:19,690\n這個部分會接觸到青少年的運動教練應該強制休息相關教育心理學等等的課程並且一定要納入教練的考核時數剛剛我有提醒到說這些狀況最基本我們要關心的問題就是這些潛在有問題的教練基本上他們接觸到都是我們的孩子\n\n13\n00:04:35,962 --> 00:04:51,707\n發展部組織法草案案。所以這些運動教練的管理及增能上北溪這邊要求說我們運動部一定要研擬只要持有教練證並且持續在進行教學適時的這些教練應該休息一定時數的這個教育及教育心理學並且要定期考核\n\n14\n00:04:52,907 --> 00:05:11,413\n發展部組織法草案案案件相關規範,本席強調自有形式的教練都要,這個部分一定希望運動部要研擬,既然是升格運動部,我們這是草野的共識而且是民眾的期待,那麼你們必須要更有嚴謹的態度跟立場來規範這些相關的教練。第三個部分是希望說我們地方的單項學會的委員會應該要重新定義有他們的角色,\n\n15\n00:05:19,835 --> 00:05:24,857\n發展部組織法草案（事由（立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會等19人擬具:「運動部組織法草案．事由．一）行政院擬具:「體育暨運動\n\n16\n00:05:41,863 --> 00:05:58,035\n但當有問題有爭議的時候地方的體育局是沒有辦法約束所以這邊也希望說我們運動部可以重新定義這些地方單項委員會的這些角色這個你能夠理解我現在所提出的問題嗎所以這個部分我希望能夠做到\n\n17\n00:05:58,675 --> 00:06:00,236\n發展部組織法草案案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項\n\n18\n00:06:26,957 --> 00:06:41,378\n法務委員這部分其實我們現在都逐步在輔導各縣市啦其實這部分問題是不少那我們分級的部分已經先做好手冊給各縣市那我們未來會依照委員的建議把督導各個地方政府建置一些預約系統不是這些場館是歸教育部管還是歸運動部管\n\n19\n00:06:43,780 --> 00:07:05,474\n運動部組織法草案（事由學校來處理,但是如果現在是外面的廠商來租借場地,其實就有運動部這邊來去做輔導。所以就跟現在的學校的游泳池上面做OT一樣的道理,其實這個部分我們未來會透過行政法人在各個縣市去做每個學校、校園開放的輔導。還是會有合作不可能完全分開,一定是合作又分工。\n\n20\n00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:26,955\n租界的資訊其實現在有建制起來的就只有臺北田徑場可以連結到臺北市體育局的場地租界系統其他的縣市點進去是沒有反應是空的所以這邊我也希望說對於整個的運動場館的租界系統在運動部成立之後要協助各縣市地方政府來\n\n21\n00:07:28,135 --> 00:07:32,077\n建立這個預約的場地讓這些民眾需要場地租借的時候不會不得其門而入而且我們要去規範大小活動它使用場地的不同小型活動不要去佔用到大型的場地因為現在我們既然提升全民運動希望更多人來參與運動那必須有這些場地提供給要運動的人民眾來使用\n\n22\n00:07:51,127 --> 00:08:06,960\n所以這個部分呢我再次強調我對於體育署升格運動部是非常支持的但是我今天是要的是你們升格之後你們的態度你們的立場跟你們的做法也希望說我剛才所提的這些問題你們日後一定要加入的在你們的這個討論裡面來演繹相對應的規範好以上謝謝主席謝謝委員好謝謝部長謝謝署長謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5171\t11094\t謝謝主席請鄭部長以及鄭署長有請鄭部長跟鄭署長委員好部長長今天是運動部組織法相關法案的這個懸答但今天我看部長署長及次長都在場大家都十分的關心那運動部是從體育署升格那既然是既有的分署\n32925\t51702\t分組、然後再增設一個全民運動署以及運動產業發展中心。本席是非常的支持行政院對於運動產業及全民運動的這個政策推動的這個決心我非常支持那對於我們體育署來升格運動部我也是樂見的相信我們民眾也是支持但今天在這邊\n52383\t66795\t我要質詢的是我們體育署升格運動部之後你們的立場跟一個態度的表達在現在體育署所面臨的這些問題在你們升格為運動部之後能不能解決我相信民眾都非常的關注首先我想要請教對我們單項協會所發生的各式各樣的問題我們升格之後我們有沒有這個能力來協助解決\n74301\t74581\t體育暨運動部組織法草案案\n94366\t100289\t發展部組織法草案案件事件,我們有辦法真正的協助到我們的體育選手我們的運動產業,其實單向選會頻頻出包這些問題不只是打擊到說我們在選手他們實質上的一些權益出賽的權益種種其實對他們心理上的傷害是非常的大,他們的信心他們的熱忱可能在這些過程裡面被磨滅了,所以說我現在直接詢問說我們在運動部成立之後有沒有預計針對協會出包的狀況我們制定相應應的這些問責機制\n120581\t122642\t運動發展部組織法草案（事由．一）行政院函審理事長．一）行政院函審理事長．一．行政院函審理事長\n139021\t152744\t謝謝我們提醒確實我們對單項協會絕對會有一個更嚴密的一個監督的一個機制確保我們所有的運動選手上的一些權益那詳細的是不是請鄭書長來補充說明報告委員分兩個單位分兩個部分第一個我們設立一個專責的輔導單位第二個我們在加強多元意見的交流其實我們現在\n160906\t171935\t體育組跟過去態度不一樣是過去可能不想過度介入我們協會自己的自治的一個運作但是我們現在因為我們給他大量的經費補助所以我們其實在很多地方是直接要求他了所以我們現在改成直接要求他是沒有錯那既然這樣署長您也說出你們的態度就是說未來對於這個單項協會的管理會更加的嚴謹也希望說我們真的要具體的措施不要辜負民眾的期待\n187287\t191570\t運動部組織法草案案的立場如何?會不會更積極?有關專任運動教練跟運動教練管理的問題其實很多教練都抱持著他們舊有的訓練的思維這個在過去本席在教文的時候委員會的時候有特別的關心我們看一下媒體他們整理出來的這個表格\n210643\t229938\t其實教練不當管教的這個例子我們可以看到不管是學校體育班聘任的專任教練還是一般的體育老師或者是外面私人的道館俱樂部家長自聘或是球館的教練其實這個狀況我們最基本要關心的就是說這個些些潛在有問題的教練接觸到的是我們的孩子所以本席在這邊要給幾點的建議希望說運動部你們一定要納入考量\n235121\t255408\t系統性管理 運動教練的聘用方式其實非常的多元不納入學校體育專任教練以及體育老師之外我們還有社團自聘的家長自聘運動俱樂部以及私人球館私人道場都會有運動教練的聲音因此本席這邊要要求說運動部未來要針對運動教練做出系統性的管理教練證的這個制度一定要落實\n256368\t259690\t這個部分會接觸到青少年的運動教練應該強制休息相關教育心理學等等的課程並且一定要納入教練的考核時數剛剛我有提醒到說這些狀況最基本我們要關心的問題就是這些潛在有問題的教練基本上他們接觸到都是我們的孩子\n275962\t291707\t發展部組織法草案 案 。所以這些運動教練的管理及增能上北溪這邊要求說我們運動部一定要研擬只要持有教練證並且持續在進行教學適時的這些教練應該休息一定時數的這個教育及教育心理學並且要定期考核\n292907\t311413\t發展部組織法草案案案件 相關規範,本席強調自有形式的教練都要,這個部分一定希望運動部要研擬,既然是升格運動部,我們這是草野的共識而且是民眾的期待,那麼你們必須要更有嚴謹的態度跟立場來規範這些相關的教練。第三個部分是希望說我們地方的單項學會的委員會應該要重新定義有他們的角色,\n319835\t324857\t發展部組織法草案（事由（立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會等19人擬具:「運動部組織法草案．事由．一）行政院擬具:「體育暨運動\n341863\t358035\t但當有問題有爭議的時候地方的體育局是沒有辦法約束所以這邊也希望說我們運動部可以重新定義這些地方單項委員會的這些角色這個你能夠理解我現在所提出的問題嗎所以這個部分我希望能夠做到\n358675\t360236\t發展部組織法草案案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項\n386957\t401378\t法務委員這部分其實我們現在都逐步在輔導各縣市啦其實這部分問題是不少那我們分級的部分已經先做好手冊給各縣市那我們未來會依照委員的建議把督導各個地方政府建置一些預約系統不是這些場館是歸教育部管還是歸運動部管\n403780\t425474\t運動部組織法草案（事由學校來處理,但是如果現在是外面的廠商來租借場地,其實就有運動部這邊來去做輔導。所以就跟現在的學校的游泳池上面做OT一樣的道理,其實這個部分我們未來會透過行政法人在各個縣市去做每個學校、校園開放的輔導。還是會有合作不可能完全分開,一定是合作又分工。\n428570\t446955\t租界的資訊其實現在有建制起來的就只有臺北田徑場可以連結到臺北市體育局的場地租界系統其他的縣市點進去是沒有反應是空的所以這邊我也希望說對於整個的運動場館的租界系統在運動部成立之後要協助各縣市地方政府來\n448135\t452077\t建立這個預約的場地讓這些民眾需要場地租借的時候不會不得其門而入而且我們要去規範大小活動它使用場地的不同小型活動不要去佔用到大型的場地因為現在我們既然提升全民運動希望更多人來參與運動那必須有這些場地提供給要運動的人民眾來使用\n471127\t486960\t所以這個部分呢我再次強調我對於體育署升格運動部是非常支持的但是我今天是要的是你們升格之後你們的態度你們的立場跟你們的做法也希望說我剛才所提的這些問題你們日後一定要加入的在你們的這個討論裡面來演繹相對應的規範好以上謝謝主席謝謝委員好謝謝部長謝謝署長謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席請鄭部長以及鄭署長有請鄭部長跟鄭署長委員好部長長今天是運動部組織法相關法案的這個懸答但今天我看部長署長及次長都在場大家都十分的關心那運動部是從體育署升格那既然是既有的分署\n分組、然後再增設一個全民運動署以及運動產業發展中心。本席是非常的支持行政院對於運動產業及全民運動的這個政策推動的這個決心我非常支持那對於我們體育署來升格運動部我也是樂見的相信我們民眾也是支持但今天在這邊\n我要質詢的是我們體育署升格運動部之後你們的立場跟一個態度的表達在現在體育署所面臨的這些問題在你們升格為運動部之後能不能解決我相信民眾都非常的關注首先我想要請教對我們單項協會所發生的各式各樣的問題我們升格之後我們有沒有這個能力來協助解決\n體育暨運動部組織法草案案\n發展部組織法草案案件事件,我們有辦法真正的協助到我們的體育選手我們的運動產業,其實單向選會頻頻出包這些問題不只是打擊到說我們在選手他們實質上的一些權益出賽的權益種種其實對他們心理上的傷害是非常的大,他們的信心他們的熱忱可能在這些過程裡面被磨滅了,所以說我現在直接詢問說我們在運動部成立之後有沒有預計針對協會出包的狀況我們制定相應應的這些問責機制\n運動發展部組織法草案（事由．一）行政院函審理事長．一）行政院函審理事長．一．行政院函審理事長\n謝謝我們提醒確實我們對單項協會絕對會有一個更嚴密的一個監督的一個機制確保我們所有的運動選手上的一些權益那詳細的是不是請鄭書長來補充說明報告委員分兩個單位分兩個部分第一個我們設立一個專責的輔導單位第二個我們在加強多元意見的交流其實我們現在\n體育組跟過去態度不一樣是過去可能不想過度介入我們協會自己的自治的一個運作但是我們現在因為我們給他大量的經費補助所以我們其實在很多地方是直接要求他了所以我們現在改成直接要求他是沒有錯那既然這樣署長您也說出你們的態度就是說未來對於這個單項協會的管理會更加的嚴謹也希望說我們真的要具體的措施不要辜負民眾的期待\n運動部組織法草案案的立場如何?會不會更積極?有關專任運動教練跟運動教練管理的問題其實很多教練都抱持著他們舊有的訓練的思維這個在過去本席在教文的時候委員會的時候有特別的關心我們看一下媒體他們整理出來的這個表格\n其實教練不當管教的這個例子我們可以看到不管是學校體育班聘任的專任教練還是一般的體育老師或者是外面私人的道館俱樂部家長自聘或是球館的教練其實這個狀況我們最基本要關心的就是說這個些些潛在有問題的教練接觸到的是我們的孩子所以本席在這邊要給幾點的建議希望說運動部你們一定要納入考量\n系統性管理 運動教練的聘用方式其實非常的多元不納入學校體育專任教練以及體育老師之外我們還有社團自聘的家長自聘運動俱樂部以及私人球館私人道場都會有運動教練的聲音因此本席這邊要要求說運動部未來要針對運動教練做出系統性的管理教練證的這個制度一定要落實\n這個部分會接觸到青少年的運動教練應該強制休息相關教育心理學等等的課程並且一定要納入教練的考核時數剛剛我有提醒到說這些狀況最基本我們要關心的問題就是這些潛在有問題的教練基本上他們接觸到都是我們的孩子\n發展部組織法草案 案 。所以這些運動教練的管理及增能上北溪這邊要求說我們運動部一定要研擬只要持有教練證並且持續在進行教學適時的這些教練應該休息一定時數的這個教育及教育心理學並且要定期考核\n發展部組織法草案案案件 相關規範,本席強調自有形式的教練都要,這個部分一定希望運動部要研擬,既然是升格運動部,我們這是草野的共識而且是民眾的期待,那麼你們必須要更有嚴謹的態度跟立場來規範這些相關的教練。第三個部分是希望說我們地方的單項學會的委員會應該要重新定義有他們的角色,\n發展部組織法草案（事由（立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會等19人擬具:「運動部組織法草案．事由．一）行政院擬具:「體育暨運動\n但當有問題有爭議的時候地方的體育局是沒有辦法約束所以這邊也希望說我們運動部可以重新定義這些地方單項委員會的這些角色這個你能夠理解我現在所提出的問題嗎所以這個部分我希望能夠做到\n發展部組織法草案案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項\n法務委員這部分其實我們現在都逐步在輔導各縣市啦其實這部分問題是不少那我們分級的部分已經先做好手冊給各縣市那我們未來會依照委員的建議把督導各個地方政府建置一些預約系統不是這些場館是歸教育部管還是歸運動部管\n運動部組織法草案（事由學校來處理,但是如果現在是外面的廠商來租借場地,其實就有運動部這邊來去做輔導。所以就跟現在的學校的游泳池上面做OT一樣的道理,其實這個部分我們未來會透過行政法人在各個縣市去做每個學校、校園開放的輔導。還是會有合作不可能完全分開,一定是合作又分工。\n租界的資訊其實現在有建制起來的就只有臺北田徑場可以連結到臺北市體育局的場地租界系統其他的縣市點進去是沒有反應是空的所以這邊我也希望說對於整個的運動場館的租界系統在運動部成立之後要協助各縣市地方政府來\n建立這個預約的場地讓這些民眾需要場地租借的時候不會不得其門而入而且我們要去規範大小活動它使用場地的不同小型活動不要去佔用到大型的場地因為現在我們既然提升全民運動希望更多人來參與運動那必須有這些場地提供給要運動的人民眾來使用\n所以這個部分呢我再次強調我對於體育署升格運動部是非常支持的但是我今天是要的是你們升格之後你們的態度你們的立場跟你們的做法也希望說我剛才所提的這些問題你們日後一定要加入的在你們的這個討論裡面來演繹相對應的規範好以上謝謝主席謝謝委員好謝謝部長謝謝署長謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.171 --> 00:11.094\n謝謝主席請鄭部長以及鄭署長有請鄭部長跟鄭署長委員好部長長今天是運動部組織法相關法案的這個懸答但今天我看部長署長及次長都在場大家都十分的關心那運動部是從體育署升格那既然是既有的分署\n\n00:32.925 --> 00:51.702\n分組、然後再增設一個全民運動署以及運動產業發展中心。本席是非常的支持行政院對於運動產業及全民運動的這個政策推動的這個決心我非常支持那對於我們體育署來升格運動部我也是樂見的相信我們民眾也是支持但今天在這邊\n\n00:52.383 --> 01:06.795\n我要質詢的是我們體育署升格運動部之後你們的立場跟一個態度的表達在現在體育署所面臨的這些問題在你們升格為運動部之後能不能解決我相信民眾都非常的關注首先我想要請教對我們單項協會所發生的各式各樣的問題我們升格之後我們有沒有這個能力來協助解決\n\n01:14.301 --> 01:14.581\n體育暨運動部組織法草案案\n\n01:34.366 --> 01:40.289\n發展部組織法草案案件事件,我們有辦法真正的協助到我們的體育選手我們的運動產業,其實單向選會頻頻出包這些問題不只是打擊到說我們在選手他們實質上的一些權益出賽的權益種種其實對他們心理上的傷害是非常的大,他們的信心他們的熱忱可能在這些過程裡面被磨滅了,所以說我現在直接詢問說我們在運動部成立之後有沒有預計針對協會出包的狀況我們制定相應應的這些問責機制\n\n02:00.581 --> 02:02.642\n運動發展部組織法草案（事由．一）行政院函審理事長．一）行政院函審理事長．一．行政院函審理事長\n\n02:19.021 --> 02:32.744\n謝謝我們提醒確實我們對單項協會絕對會有一個更嚴密的一個監督的一個機制確保我們所有的運動選手上的一些權益那詳細的是不是請鄭書長來補充說明報告委員分兩個單位分兩個部分第一個我們設立一個專責的輔導單位第二個我們在加強多元意見的交流其實我們現在\n\n02:40.906 --> 02:51.935\n體育組跟過去態度不一樣是過去可能不想過度介入我們協會自己的自治的一個運作但是我們現在因為我們給他大量的經費補助所以我們其實在很多地方是直接要求他了所以我們現在改成直接要求他是沒有錯那既然這樣署長您也說出你們的態度就是說未來對於這個單項協會的管理會更加的嚴謹也希望說我們真的要具體的措施不要辜負民眾的期待\n\n03:07.287 --> 03:11.570\n運動部組織法草案案的立場如何?會不會更積極?有關專任運動教練跟運動教練管理的問題其實很多教練都抱持著他們舊有的訓練的思維這個在過去本席在教文的時候委員會的時候有特別的關心我們看一下媒體他們整理出來的這個表格\n\n03:30.643 --> 03:49.938\n其實教練不當管教的這個例子我們可以看到不管是學校體育班聘任的專任教練還是一般的體育老師或者是外面私人的道館俱樂部家長自聘或是球館的教練其實這個狀況我們最基本要關心的就是說這個些些潛在有問題的教練接觸到的是我們的孩子所以本席在這邊要給幾點的建議希望說運動部你們一定要納入考量\n\n03:55.121 --> 04:15.408\n系統性管理運動教練的聘用方式其實非常的多元不納入學校體育專任教練以及體育老師之外我們還有社團自聘的家長自聘運動俱樂部以及私人球館私人道場都會有運動教練的聲音因此本席這邊要要求說運動部未來要針對運動教練做出系統性的管理教練證的這個制度一定要落實\n\n04:16.368 --> 04:19.690\n這個部分會接觸到青少年的運動教練應該強制休息相關教育心理學等等的課程並且一定要納入教練的考核時數剛剛我有提醒到說這些狀況最基本我們要關心的問題就是這些潛在有問題的教練基本上他們接觸到都是我們的孩子\n\n04:35.962 --> 04:51.707\n發展部組織法草案案。所以這些運動教練的管理及增能上北溪這邊要求說我們運動部一定要研擬只要持有教練證並且持續在進行教學適時的這些教練應該休息一定時數的這個教育及教育心理學並且要定期考核\n\n04:52.907 --> 05:11.413\n發展部組織法草案案案件相關規範,本席強調自有形式的教練都要,這個部分一定希望運動部要研擬,既然是升格運動部,我們這是草野的共識而且是民眾的期待,那麼你們必須要更有嚴謹的態度跟立場來規範這些相關的教練。第三個部分是希望說我們地方的單項學會的委員會應該要重新定義有他們的角色,\n\n05:19.835 --> 05:24.857\n發展部組織法草案（事由（立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會等19人擬具:「運動部組織法草案．事由．一）行政院擬具:「體育暨運動\n\n05:41.863 --> 05:58.035\n但當有問題有爭議的時候地方的體育局是沒有辦法約束所以這邊也希望說我們運動部可以重新定義這些地方單項委員會的這些角色這個你能夠理解我現在所提出的問題嗎所以這個部分我希望能夠做到\n\n05:58.675 --> 06:00.236\n發展部組織法草案案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項案件事項\n\n06:26.957 --> 06:41.378\n法務委員這部分其實我們現在都逐步在輔導各縣市啦其實這部分問題是不少那我們分級的部分已經先做好手冊給各縣市那我們未來會依照委員的建議把督導各個地方政府建置一些預約系統不是這些場館是歸教育部管還是歸運動部管\n\n06:43.780 --> 07:05.474\n運動部組織法草案（事由學校來處理,但是如果現在是外面的廠商來租借場地,其實就有運動部這邊來去做輔導。所以就跟現在的學校的游泳池上面做OT一樣的道理,其實這個部分我們未來會透過行政法人在各個縣市去做每個學校、校園開放的輔導。還是會有合作不可能完全分開,一定是合作又分工。\n\n07:08.570 --> 07:26.955\n租界的資訊其實現在有建制起來的就只有臺北田徑場可以連結到臺北市體育局的場地租界系統其他的縣市點進去是沒有反應是空的所以這邊我也希望說對於整個的運動場館的租界系統在運動部成立之後要協助各縣市地方政府來\n\n07:28.135 --> 07:32.077\n建立這個預約的場地讓這些民眾需要場地租借的時候不會不得其門而入而且我們要去規範大小活動它使用場地的不同小型活動不要去佔用到大型的場地因為現在我們既然提升全民運動希望更多人來參與運動那必須有這些場地提供給要運動的人民眾來使用\n\n07:51.127 --> 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