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00:02:17,627\n那接著剛才林軍憲委有提到這實名制的部分那因為目前來講如果說數位發展部在打砸的部分在預算編列未來也會針對這個打砸的預算的這個部分來去做提升那可是這個實名制的話目前來推動的一個進程那想請這個部長是不是可以簡單回答一下\n\n5\n00:02:18,367 --> 00:02:43,886\n對實名制我們現在就是說在網路上實名制我們有電子簽章法然後數位簽章也同時推動那將來就希望說用這些技術能夠很就是很就讓很那個這些剛講的平台商可以很容易去驗證登廣告人是不是實名這個這個將來這個技術都不是問題現在是說推動的問題那剛講就是如果將來打炸裝法通過那經過我們跟這些平台商的\n\n6\n00:02:44,346 --> 00:02:44,486\n事務委員．\n\n7\n00:02:58,493 --> 00:03:02,295\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部資通安全署單位預算。\n\n8\n00:03:15,483 --> 00:03:34,078\n這個目前來講就是速發部在於許多的業務的部分經費上其實是大量的外包啊那當然的尾半那尤其是像22億的一個經費幾乎有13億是對於國內團體的捐助補助那本市長直接請教一下部長\n\n9\n00:03:34,838 --> 00:04:00,192\n那在這個部分來講他的這些捐助補助的名單也沒有在網路上面去做揭示那這些部分如何能夠讓社會各界可以認同數發部本身來講那個部長跟部內的同仁其實也都有專業但是卻都用這個尾班的方式來去進行就像是一個採購中心或是轉報中心那這個部長要如何來去做改進以及如何來公告\n\n10\n00:04:00,452 --> 00:04:03,433\n但是這個部分的話在目前來講網路上面是有充分的公告還像這樣子捐補助的訊息揭露嗎?採購,這個有公告採購\n\n11\n00:04:27,739 --> 00:04:46,898\n好那沒關係那其實這個本席還是辦公室這邊其實確實也有在就是書發部跟相關的平台來去做瀏覽那其實這個經費上將近20億其中13億都是對於這個去做捐助補助的部分那其實訊息公告跟揭露需要改善需要加強\n\n12\n00:04:47,699 --> 00:05:10,698\n不管是在技術的研發上或是在許多做宣傳的部分那我是覺得可以讓民眾是看得更清楚也可以讓我坦白講訴發部之前的話一直被評為就是都在做這個網軍跟大內宣可是我坦白講現在部長您是專業的部長那可以把這個部分去對訴發部大家所做的不白志願來去做洗白\n\n13\n00:05:42,980 --> 00:05:52,410\n目前在這個鄉鎮市數位發展程度分類表南投縣幾乎的話還有四個鄉鎮在五級區域那其中有六個鄉鎮是屬於數位發展盲洞區\n\n14\n00:06:02,921 --> 00:06:24,700\n那看了這個資安署以及數產署及數化部的本部預算那這個部分來講我想直接請教一下部長或是相關同仁在明年度預計會在南投提升這個數位落差以及數位的這種發展改善的經費預計會是多少的金額?那個數證師王市長\n\n15\n00:06:27,611 --> 00:06:46,349\n因為其實22縣市我相信出發部其實一直以來都有針對比較弱的鄉鎮再去做一個改善跟提升所以說其實這個各縣市來講的話其實這資料數據其實都有那想請教一下在明年不南投的話會有哪些的部分目前預計以及提升的成效預計如何\n\n16\n00:06:47,450 --> 00:07:13,932\n報告委員因為這個資料比較細我們是不是會後再跟委員提供鄉鎮不用但是縣的部分稍微提一下因為他們會提計畫然後計畫我們審查之後然後會撥那個經費給他們那樣子那因為以目前的話我們大概是每年會補助大概8到9個縣市那我們這個部分的話我們詳細的數字我們再給委員這邊那有沒有預計針對這樣子比較算是四五級或是盲洞區的這種地區來講的話有加強輔導\n\n17\n00:07:17,355 --> 00:07:33,131\n對,因為有些縣市他是比較不會寫計畫他需要經費他不會寫那這個部分我們都會去輔導他們怎麼樣去根據他們的需求去把這個計畫書或是說把他們要做的事情把它寫得比較好一點讓委員這邊可以比較同意他們的一個提出來一個經費的需求\n\n18\n00:07:34,104 --> 00:07:52,760\n好那目前這個部分就就持續就請協助了好那我就不去再做那個那但是同樣的後面還是會請您把22縣市在去年跟今年預計要做的已經以及執行完成的部分一樣是給本市辦公室一個資料\n\n19\n00:07:53,300 --> 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