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00:01:22,223\n電競確實就是運動請問署長我們運動產業發展條例第4條修正以後電子競技已經納入了嘛2022年的杭州亞運呢也納入了請問署長或者也許是未來的部長你認為電子競技是一項電子運動嗎目前體育署規劃有6個業務司你認為電子競技是哪一個司主管\n\n5\n00:01:29,775 --> 00:01:30,035\n發展部組織法草案案。\n\n6\n00:01:46,776 --> 00:02:03,396\n運動部本部底下有設施規劃師、國際事務師、產業科技師、競技運動師、試運運動師、綜合規劃師。我想考署長一個假設題,假設明年我們台灣要舉辦英雄聯盟全球大賽,這個全球性的電子競技會要有哪一個師來主辦?\n\n7\n00:02:04,878 --> 00:02:25,222\n法務委員這一部分我們會是由全民運動署這邊來做事前的一個協助的一個盤剪。所以它不是競技?它是有競技運動師這邊來協助來做一個這樣子賽事的一個主要的規劃。然後運動設施這邊是設施的需求也會來做協助。那運動設施是教育部來協助還是運動還是這個運動部?運動部。\n\n8\n00:02:29,303 --> 00:02:54,426\n這個待會我們還會提到為什麼這樣問因為電子競技一直以來是被教育部、文化部、速發部很多的部會踢皮球希望這個未來運動部的成立就是這個皮球踢完就算是終局之戰希望不要變成外面踢完球變成內部踢希望未來如果各位都有機會是運動部部長的話妥善處理業務分工那我想您也推動全民運動\n\n9\n00:02:55,307 --> 00:03:15,143\n那我還是要再次提醒就是運動不是只有流汗才算運動嘛這個您同意嗎對不對我們現在有超慢跑嘛我們電競也是一種運動您剛才也提到所以E-sport也務必要納入因為我們有非常多優秀的選手在世界替台灣爭光那再來我想請教一下部長\n\n10\n00:03:16,084 --> 00:03:44,834\n部長知不知道運動部要成立的目的因為您現在是規劃最主要的人嘛那請教一下這個運動部成立的目的知不知道我想運動部成立的目的就是希望能夠全民運動然後能夠讓全民能夠有更健康更幸福而同時透過運動產業也能夠來帶來這個幸福經濟我想包括運動平權這些都是我們希望能夠成立運動部的\n\n11\n00:03:45,074 --> 00:03:59,203\n部長可是你這樣回答有可能會打臉我們的院長我們的院長在總諮詢的時候一直提到奪牌也很重要全民運動也很重要但我們現在看到現在的規劃有全民運動沒錯您答得很好有參加國際組織答得很好\n\n12\n00:04:01,764 --> 00:04:22,170\n發展部組織法草案案案件中完全沒有奪牌啊。我覺得接下來的規劃是不是因為想要怎麼樣去挪用這些規劃的這些預算還是說一些什麼樣重新的安排是未來如果沒有人奪牌我們就說我們現在全民健康了我們不做奪牌了請教一下我們是就不再注重奪牌了嗎為什麼裡面完全沒有呢\n\n13\n00:04:23,923 --> 00:04:47,855\n為何推動全民運動過去我們是用體育班那是用從小就開始一個精英班但是我們非常清楚全民運動以後就是兵多將管他能夠奪牌的人就更多我們看到一個Stanford我這一次巴黎奧運讓我感受非常深刻國際一流的大學光奧運拿了二三十面的一個金牌\n\n14\n00:04:48,855 --> 00:05:06,382\n運動發展部組織法草案案案也就是說我們怎麼樣去創造他不是只有特定的人才能夠這個奪牌。市部長我的想法跟你一樣台灣爭光還是很重要但是為什麼裡面現在就是完全沒有這方面的規劃呢那到底是哪一個署哪一個司要負責奪牌呢萬一未來奪牌的表現不好到底誰要負責啊\n\n15\n00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:34,314\n公文報我們事實上是有規劃運動競技室而且為什麼會有除了過去的所謂大家熟悉的左訓那就是全國運動在國家運動訓練中心外我們還有一個科學中心加上來就是希望透過運動科學科技進去能夠所以還是要奪牌嘛是不是那未來我覺得規劃就要納入這個部分要講清楚好不好透過精準的一個研究去支持選手訓練來奪牌\n\n16\n00:05:36,135 --> 00:06:05,459\n運動部組織法草案案案件,我們現在其實民間還是有一些疑慮在化解就是說這個跨領域或者跨單位有時候就變成掛了就掛掉了請教一下部長假設學校要購買棒球器材體育班的專業訓練您剛剛自己也有提到嘛購買器材申請的相關補助到底要向教育部申請還是運動部申請啊?這基本上運動部會支持但是這個上述的問題我們的理解是現在您過去的說法是說人由教育部主管啊\n\n17\n00:06:05,859 --> 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對不對我們現在有超慢跑嘛我們電競也是一種運動您剛才也提到所以E-sport也務必要納入因為我們有非常多優秀的選手在世界替台灣爭光那再來我想請教一下部長\n196084\t224834\t部長知不知道運動部要成立的目的因為您現在是規劃最主要的人嘛那請教一下這個運動部成立的目的知不知道我想運動部成立的目的就是希望能夠全民運動然後能夠讓全民能夠有更健康更幸福而同時透過運動產業也能夠來帶來這個幸福經濟我想包括運動平權這些都是我們希望能夠成立運動部的\n225074\t239203\t部長可是你這樣回答有可能會打臉我們的院長我們的院長在總諮詢的時候一直提到奪牌也很重要全民運動也很重要但我們現在看到現在的規劃有全民運動沒錯您答得很好有參加國際組織答得很好\n241764\t262170\t發展部組織法草案案 案件中完全沒有奪牌啊。我覺得接下來的規劃是不是因為想要怎麼樣去挪用這些規劃的這些預算還是說一些什麼樣重新的安排是未來如果沒有人奪牌我們就說我們現在全民健康了我們不做奪牌了請教一下我們是就不再注重奪牌了嗎為什麼裡面完全沒有呢\n263923\t287855\t為何推動全民運動過去我們是用體育班那是用從小就開始一個精英班但是我們非常清楚全民運動以後就是兵多將管他能夠奪牌的人就更多我們看到一個Stanford我這一次巴黎奧運讓我感受非常深刻國際一流的大學光奧運拿了二三十面的一個金牌\n288855\t306382\t運動發展部組織法草案案 案 也就是說我們怎麼樣去創造他不是只有特定的人才能夠這個奪牌。市部長我的想法跟你一樣台灣爭光還是很重要但是為什麼裡面現在就是完全沒有這方面的規劃呢那到底是哪一個署哪一個司要負責奪牌呢萬一未來奪牌的表現不好到底誰要負責啊\n307682\t334314\t公文報我們事實上是有規劃運動競技室而且為什麼會有除了過去的所謂大家熟悉的左訓那就是全國運動在國家運動訓練中心外我們還有一個科學中心加上來就是希望透過運動科學科技進去能夠所以還是要奪牌嘛是不是那未來我覺得規劃就要納入這個部分要講清楚好不好透過精準的一個研究去支持選手訓練來奪牌\n336135\t365459\t運動部組織法草案案 案件,我們現在其實民間還是有一些疑慮在化解就是說這個跨領域或者跨單位有時候就變成掛了就掛掉了請教一下部長假設學校要購買棒球器材體育班的專業訓練您剛剛自己也有提到嘛購買器材申請的相關補助到底要向教育部申請還是運動部申請啊?這基本上運動部會支持但是這個上述的問題我們的理解是現在您過去的說法是說人由教育部主管啊\n365859\t369441\t運動部組織法草案．一．一般體育教學的會維持在我們的教育部學校裡邊體育組會有一個這個學校這個學校體育組這一個來負責\n390034\t390915\t運動發展部組織法草案案。\n410333\t436741\t運動發展部組織法草案 案 應變成一種享受,那其實不應該讓他們有太大的壓力,想請教部長未來體育班的訓練可不可以納入運動醫學的專業,或者是運動心理的專業,去協助他們做最適合的訓練方式跟時長。謝謝委員,確實我們成立國家運動科學中心就希望有這樣一個目的,然後學校的運動選手也有許多的心理跟這一個運動\n440543\t446835\t科學中心運動科學中心也要來協助體育班的運動醫學跟這個運動心理,是不是這樣嗎?我們有留下記錄,我們之後一起來檢視好不好?好,謝謝部長。\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請部長署長來請部長和署長請委員早早要成立運動部本形式絕對支持到底誰是運動部長的人選我們這裡放了三張都很帥的照片署長很帥給你放特別大但是也傳出我們的這個張亮市長也是熱門人選\n發展部組織法草案案 案 也有賴友友那這個大家在討論我把它放小一點但都很優秀那我想請教這個不曉得署長您對於在這一場比賽當中脫穎而出有沒有信心啊\n國際奧林匹克委員會2017年10月就已經說了\n電競確實就是運動請問署長我們運動產業發展條例第4條修正以後電子競技已經納入了嘛2022年的杭州亞運呢也納入了請問署長或者也許是未來的部長你認為電子競技是一項電子運動嗎目前體育署規劃有6個業務司你認為電子競技是哪一個司主管\n發展部組織法草案案。\n運動部本部底下有設施規劃師、國際事務師、產業科技師、競技運動師、試運運動師、綜合規劃師。我想考署長一個假設題,假設明年我們台灣要舉辦英雄聯盟全球大賽,這個全球性的電子競技會要有哪一個師來主辦?\n法務委員這一部分我們會是由全民運動署這邊來做事前的一個協助的一個盤剪。所以它不是競技?它是有競技運動師這邊來協助來做一個這樣子賽事的一個主要的規劃。然後運動設施這邊是設施的需求也會來做協助。那運動設施是教育部來協助還是運動還是這個運動部?運動部。\n這個待會我們還會提到為什麼這樣問因為電子競技一直以來是被教育部、文化部、速發部很多的部會踢皮球希望這個未來運動部的成立就是這個皮球踢完就算是終局之戰希望不要變成外面踢完球變成內部踢希望未來如果各位都有機會是運動部部長的話妥善處理業務分工那我想您也推動全民運動\n那我還是要再次提醒就是運動不是只有流汗才算運動嘛這個您同意嗎 對不對我們現在有超慢跑嘛我們電競也是一種運動您剛才也提到所以E-sport也務必要納入因為我們有非常多優秀的選手在世界替台灣爭光那再來我想請教一下部長\n部長知不知道運動部要成立的目的因為您現在是規劃最主要的人嘛那請教一下這個運動部成立的目的知不知道我想運動部成立的目的就是希望能夠全民運動然後能夠讓全民能夠有更健康更幸福而同時透過運動產業也能夠來帶來這個幸福經濟我想包括運動平權這些都是我們希望能夠成立運動部的\n部長可是你這樣回答有可能會打臉我們的院長我們的院長在總諮詢的時候一直提到奪牌也很重要全民運動也很重要但我們現在看到現在的規劃有全民運動沒錯您答得很好有參加國際組織答得很好\n發展部組織法草案案 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