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00:01:43,636\n我點入之後,然後當然我的很多花池在裡面通訊錄的好朋友就收到我的訊息了。然後那個訊息已經不是我再發給他們了。他說我人在香港,我人在新加坡,我在美國,現在身上沒有錢,請你匯款給我。\n\n6\n00:01:45,802 --> 00:02:00,049\n對這個就是這個是一個詐騙的一個一個型態讓你點擊進去連結那就是會實施他的詐騙的詐騷的手法跟話語所以我後來我當場我就馬上趕快去報案去左營分局\n\n7\n00:02:00,469 --> 00:02:04,491\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n8\n00:02:22,541 --> 00:02:25,702\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n9\n00:02:46,852 --> 00:02:48,875\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分\n\n10\n00:03:00,095 --> 00:03:01,376\n四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n11\n00:03:23,382 --> 00:03:26,846\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n12\n00:03:41,202 --> 00:03:43,646\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n13\n00:03:57,824 --> 00:03:58,565\n四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n14\n00:04:13,207 --> 00:04:28,153\n當然不是只有騙我啦那兩天的收入6萬6有一個會5萬的一個會1萬6的也就是有兩到三個受害人那有一個呢因為帳號被凍結沒有辦法匯入我還救了一個人\n\n15\n00:04:29,984 --> 00:04:40,950\n對,所以這個都是一個詐騙集團的詐騙的一種手法跟方式。好,謝謝署長。我們在這個打詐上面,我們還要繼續努力跟加油,謝謝。謝謝劉長。我們有兩個政黨題要請教部長,來請劉部長。\n\n16\n00:04:50,430 --> 00:05:11,525\n委員好部長首先對於內政部申請統促黨解散向憲法法庭申請統促黨解散這件事情我們在這裡表達支持因為有太多的集會出現統促黨的一些暴力的一些因素那讓這一個原本讓人民自由結社發聲的自由\n\n17\n00:05:12,225 --> 00:05:20,795\n因為統促黨這個暴力的這些行為讓內政部可以來做這個申請我在這邊表達支持以外\n\n18\n00:05:22,490 --> 00:05:45,433\n台灣民眾黨聲稱在他們所有的部分區立委在兩年後會辭職兩年後也就是說他們原本部分區的排序會從他們的第9名到第16名裡面包含一位有中國籍陸配李貞秀他能不能遞補成為立委那這個內政部有什麼解釋\n\n19\n00:05:46,233 --> 00:06:01,302\n根據我們的國籍法20條裡面凡是具有外國籍的話都應該放棄也就是說如果他宣誓登記成為立法委員或者是其他的民意代表的話他就應該放棄他的其他他國的國籍中國籍怎麼放棄\n\n20\n00:06:02,102 --> 00:06:06,667\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n21\n00:06:19,082 --> 00:06:39,276\n要求就是說如果已經有人在正式成為立法委員的時候呢他就應該簽署他在就任第11任立法委員的時候有沒有取得外國的國籍那他到職日一年內就要完成上司該國的國籍以及取得相關的證明文件我相信委員你應該有簽這個部分那所以我們現在會行文到包括立法院在內\n\n22\n00:06:44,119 --> 00:07:08,317\n要尋求就是說未來如果有立法委員就國籍法20條相關規定的時候要有回覆書那如果我們取得這個回覆書的話我們就要求我們的外管或其他單位來找這個這些委員是不是有其他他國的國籍那如果確認是有其他他國國籍的話按照我們的選罷法的規定他就應該喪失立法委員的資格中國籍好像沒有辦法去放棄中國籍\n\n23\n00:07:09,603 --> 00:07:26,464\n這個要問有中國國籍的人問題是這樣子就我們的國籍法的規定我們的忠誠度還有我們憲法上的規定你整個忠誠的對象就是中華民國而不是其他的國家我在這裡要表達的是如果中國只能喪失戶籍而不能喪失國籍的話\n\n24\n00:07:27,225 --> 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