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00:02:57,828\n我想跟委員說明就是我們在處理這些正義的議題不是說某一個單方面的利害關係人反彈我們就不做了我們是有經過非常多次的討論然後包括不同領域的利害關係人他們的一致性的看法如果看法是很分歧的時候那我們覺得說如果分歧一定要強制去推那反而會讓法裡面後續的執行更困擾\n\n9\n00:02:58,328 --> 00:03:16,547\n所以你必須要配套嘛你知道現在他們的意思還是有撈鯨魚喔這鯨魚就不是活生生的這個動物而是他們改變成有磁鐵吸性的釣竿去吸他們就有變通的方法只要你有去做一些配套的話我相信業者不會反彈也會支持的\n\n10\n00:03:17,188 --> 00:03:18,528\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃\n\n11\n00:03:40,333 --> 00:03:42,335\n規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規\n\n12\n00:04:06,957 --> 00:04:12,992\n要務跟槍械這個前提之下而致這個重大犯行的話\n\n13\n00:04:14,485 --> 00:04:36,419\n我們會加重期刑二分之一加重期刑二分之一但是你們的條文裡面有複數本席認為說只要是他有利用到這個槍械或者是這個藥物的話我們就應該加重期刑不應該有複數不然的話你會讓這個加害者會有侵犯或有逃脫的機會是不是\n\n14\n00:04:37,216 --> 00:04:59,421\n我跟委員報告齁,因為這牽涉到刑法的部分齁,那我們在當中在考慮的時候就是第一個是故意的,那第二個部分就是說他是故意的,一個也是故意的,不用一定要到複數嘛但是相對的,一隻動物的時候有時候是情緒上可是他是使用齁,我不是說他有虐待的情形,或者暴力情形,所以他要使用藥物跟槍械\n\n15\n00:05:00,538 --> 00:05:01,359\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容．及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n16\n00:05:15,922 --> 00:05:20,524\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分\n\n17\n00:05:40,735 --> 00:05:42,656\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案\n\n18\n00:05:57,421 --> 00:06:00,383\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n19\n00:06:27,501 --> 00:06:30,183\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n20\n00:06:57,661 --> 00:06:58,763\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃\n\n21\n00:07:17,583 --> 00:07:22,886\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃\n\n22\n00:07:45,947 --> 00:07:54,634\n部長,因為本席在上次在質詢你的時候特別有提到我們桃園的茶改廠。這茶改廠成立了已經將近有121年這個的歷史這個的文化。但是現在因為部長有說我們可以雙種廠的情形在嘉義跟我們桃園都有茶改廠。\n\n23\n00:08:06,764 --> 00:08:34,663\n但是現在傳出來是說我們擦蓋廠場內的員工啊人心惶惶就很擔心了因為他們說你們都把整個北部的擦蓋廠的資源都會搬到這個嘉義去讓我們未來的對這個擦蓋的研發資源沒有的話我們未來主力會很大那現在情形是怎麼樣我跟委員報告齁就是雙中產的概念是我提出來的齁當初本來是要移到嘉義去但是我覺得\n\n24\n00:08:35,203 --> 00:08:59,486\n桃園地區本身的總長他有他的歷史價值跟他的貢獻度所以後續的經費還是後續在嘉義的部分你對資源跟人力會不會減少沒有人力的部分我們會去做調整但是絕對不會影響現實的人力然後另外經費的部分在嘉義的部分我們另外提報了預算會去額外的增加不會說把這邊的經費全部挪過去這個請委員放心\n\n25\n00:09:00,006 --> 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--> 00:08.562\n我們請呂玉玲委員請做詢談謝謝主席請陳部長我們再請陳部長\n\n00:20.522 --> 00:30.650\n公布實施後,經過這些年也有15次的修正。因為大家對於動保的意思都已經提升了,所以我們也要與時俱進。\n\n00:32.291 --> 00:55.563\n在去年的4月28號的時候我們就有最新的動物保護法的這個修正草案預計大概有68條在這個修正法案裡面我們也在這個11月你說的在8月份的時候已經呈報給行政院11月底就要來審查那本席希望在12月中以前就能送來立法院做得到嗎\n\n00:57.262 --> 01:24.200\n我想我們預計在11月底我們也會請行那邊盡快的審查啦那審查我們預估大概審查如果說有一個月的時程的話預計在12月中旬或下旬的時候盡量都在中旬那這些動物保護法在你預計的68條裡面跟我們社會上沒有辦法達成共識這些內容大概是哪些方向呢我想有幾個就像剛才那個有委員提到的就是\n\n01:25.546 --> 01:30.210\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程\n\n01:41.661 --> 02:08.347\n你剛剛講到業勢的撈金魚這情形那我們立法的當時的時候我們利益是良善的但是我們在整個看到這個撈金魚的時候業者強力的反彈農業部立刻改口改口說那這樣子撈金魚的話就暫時不要禁止我們只要禁止兔子啦或者天竺鼠這些非這個脊椎的動物\n\n02:11.192 --> 02:33.966\n金魚就是脊椎動物是不是那為什麼要改變呢其實我看業者並不是會強烈反彈他們不知道未來你農業部有整個的配套或者未來對他們的生計有沒有衝擊的部分這就是你們必須要在落日轉型當下來努力下功夫而不是說有反彈就改變了\n\n02:34.646 --> 02:57.828\n我想跟委員說明就是我們在處理這些正義的議題不是說某一個單方面的利害關係人反彈我們就不做了我們是有經過非常多次的討論然後包括不同領域的利害關係人他們的一致性的看法如果看法是很分歧的時候那我們覺得說如果分歧一定要強制去推那反而會讓法裡面後續的執行更困擾\n\n02:58.328 --> 03:16.547\n所以你必須要配套嘛你知道現在他們的意思還是有撈鯨魚喔這鯨魚就不是活生生的這個動物而是他們改變成有磁鐵吸性的釣竿去吸他們就有變通的方法只要你有去做一些配套的話我相信業者不會反彈也會支持的\n\n03:17.188 --> 03:18.528\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃\n\n03:40.333 --> 03:42.335\n規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規\n\n04:06.957 --> 04:12.992\n要務跟槍械這個前提之下而致這個重大犯行的話\n\n04:14.485 --> 04:36.419\n我們會加重期刑二分之一加重期刑二分之一但是你們的條文裡面有複數本席認為說只要是他有利用到這個槍械或者是這個藥物的話我們就應該加重期刑不應該有複數不然的話你會讓這個加害者會有侵犯或有逃脫的機會是不是\n\n04:37.216 --> 04:59.421\n我跟委員報告齁,因為這牽涉到刑法的部分齁,那我們在當中在考慮的時候就是第一個是故意的,那第二個部分就是說他是故意的,一個也是故意的,不用一定要到複數嘛但是相對的,一隻動物的時候有時候是情緒上可是他是使用齁,我不是說他有虐待的情形,或者暴力情形,所以他要使用藥物跟槍械\n\n05:00.538 --> 05:01.359\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容．及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n05:15.922 --> 05:20.524\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分\n\n05:40.735 --> 05:42.656\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案\n\n05:57.421 --> 06:00.383\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n06:27.501 --> 06:30.183\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容與進程．及動物保護法規劃內容\n\n06:57.661 --> 06:58.763\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃內容及動物保護法規劃\n\n07:17.583 --> 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這個行為都要加重其刑至二分之一。"],["陳部長駿季：這個我們再來評估，也……"],["呂委員玉玲：所以把「複數」拿掉，你支持吧？部長支持吧？"],["陳部長駿季：這部分可能也跟剛才楊委員所提到的一樣，除了使用槍械、藥物，還有暴力方式，我們一起評估。"],["呂委員玉玲：虐待就是暴力了啦！"],["陳部長駿季：我們一起評估，看看要怎麼調整。"],["呂委員玉玲：好，把「複數」拿掉，只要用藥物跟槍械就是故意的，因為這不是正常行為嘛！對不對？"],["陳部長駿季：是。"],["呂委員玉玲：接下來我要提到，針對動保法，剛剛很多委員都提到，寵物規章裡面的寵物目前只針對貓跟狗。一般來說，寵物出生之後，在4個月內，法令就要求飼主帶到動物醫院或民間團體登記或植入晶片，有了登錄證明還有晶片，就可以將動物納保、投保寵物、動物保險，對不對？但是只有貓狗，所以本席在這邊建議可以將種類增加，因為現在很多人飼養的寵物不只是貓狗而已，所以這部分種類可不可以增加？"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，在112年9月，其實我們也開放了兔子等哺乳類、鳥類、蛇、龜跟蜥蜴……"],["呂委員玉玲：目前都有開放？"],["陳部長駿季：有開放。"],["呂委員玉玲：比如說兔子、天竺鼠、倉鼠跟鳥類？"],["陳部長駿季：有，開始開放。"],["呂委員玉玲：只要有人飼養，都可以投保？"],["陳部長駿季：對。我跟委員報告，我們第一個先處理的是寵物的分級跟分類，有一類是可以養的，我們會陸續公告；有一類是不能養的，連養都不能養……"],["呂委員玉玲：是，保育動物。"],["陳部長駿季：這類我們會禁止。"],["呂委員玉玲：OK。"],["陳部長駿季：第二個部分就是有登記才有機會從事後續的保險，但是保險也要看現在醫療制度本身病歷的串接性，這部分我們已經在一併處理了。"],["呂委員玉玲：部長，如果寵物之後都納入保險的話，也可以落實飼主的責任，還有避免棄養問題，對不對？"],["陳部長駿季：對。"],["呂委員玉玲：好。另外，本席上次質詢部長的時候特別提到桃園的茶改場，這處茶改場已經成立將近121年，有歷史與文化，照部長說的，現在可以有雙種場的情形，在嘉義跟桃園都有茶改場。但是現在傳出消息，讓我們桃園茶改場內員工人心惶惶、很擔心，因為他們說你們會把整個北部茶改場的資源都搬到嘉義去，要是未來茶改研發資源都沒有了，阻力會很大。請問現在情形怎麼樣？"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，雙種場的概念是我提出來的，當初本來是要移到嘉義去，但是我覺得桃園地區的種場本身也有它的歷史價值跟貢獻度，所以後續在嘉義的部分……"],["呂委員玉玲：資源跟人力會不會減少？"],["陳部長駿季：人力部分我們會調整，但是絕對不會影響現職人力。經費部分，我們針對嘉義另外提報了預算，會額外增加，不會把桃園這邊的經費全部挪過去，這點請委員放心。"],["呂委員玉玲：我們希望部長能夠重視我們桃園整個產業的發展，尤其是我們這邊歷史悠久、已經121年的茶文化，還有整個茶產業的發展。本席在這邊建議，為了不要發生重北輕南，能夠均衡一點，可以考慮南北分工的性質，如果是嘉義，可以針對飲料作物研究發展，其他部分就在北部桃園茶改場繼續發展，可不可以？"],["陳部長駿季：大致的方向是類似，但嘉義地區有很多是著重在高山茶的部分啦！針對高山茶跟北部的包種茶等其他茶類，我們在茶葉研究上會分工，飲料作物的部分也會分工，像是咖啡，在嘉義那邊可能會比較著重。"],["呂委員玉玲：所以就是飲料作物在嘉義啦！其他作物就在我們桃園茶改場，這樣能讓產業分工、合作，整個產業鏈也能夠更好地發展，好不好？"],["陳部長駿季：對，我們會朝這方面來做。"],["呂委員玉玲：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝部長。部長，剛剛討論第二十五條之一中的「複數」，本席的意見跟召委一樣，你說在家裡凌虐一隻不算，要兩隻，而且飼主可能是因為臨時的情緒犯案。重點是標的物──動物死掉啦！為什麼要兩隻？"],["陳部長駿季：不是這樣……"],["主席：複數的規定實在太離譜了！"],["陳部長駿季：我們會檢討。"],["主席：要去檢討。部長，那個真的要檢討啦！","請蔡易餘委員詢答。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":70,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-19-12","speakers":["呂玉玲","徐巧芯","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","林岱樺","賴瑞隆","張啓楷","鄭正鈐","陳亭妃","楊瓊瓔","蔡易餘","謝衣鳯","陳超明","邱志偉","麥玉珍","吳宗憲","羅廷瑋","羅智強","洪申翰","郭昱晴","徐富癸","張雅琳","徐欣瑩","邱議瑩","張嘉郡","陳冠廷"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2024-11-13"],"gazette_id":"1139901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1139901_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第12次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請農業部部長就「我國動物保護政策執行概況，及動物保護法修法規劃內容與進程」進行\n報告，並備質詢；二、審查：(一)本院委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」\n案、(二)本院委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」案、(三)本院委員呂玉\n玲等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」案、(四)本院委員張智\n倫等16人擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」案、(五)本院委員劉建國等16人擬具「動物保\n護法部分條文修正草案」案、(六)本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修\n正草案」案、(七)本院委員林岱樺等21人擬具「動物保護法第十四條之一、第十四條之二及第三\n十條條文修正草案」案、(八)本院委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案、\n(九)本院委員鄭天財 Sra Kacaw 等16人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案、\n(十)本院委員李坤城等22人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案、(十一)本院委員廖先翔等\n19人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案、(十二)本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法部\n分條文修正草案」案（詢答）","agenda_id":"1139901_00001"}}}