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\"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:01,069 --> 00:00:22,114\n請部長先休息一下先請促參司好促參司市長市長好我們看預算關於促參案\n\n2\n00:00:24,868 --> 00:00:43,085\n這個今年提前終止契約的比率是比去年的同期更高那我來看一下一些數據依照促參法簽約的案件有1673件那民間投資的金額是1兆零161億元\n\n3\n00:00:45,683 --> 00:01:01,171\n那麼這個契約期間呢估計可以減少政府的財政支出高達一兆8480億元增加政府的收入呢7134億創造超過18萬個就業機會所以從數據上來看是不錯的可是呢如果我們來看它的解約率\n\n4\n00:01:13,649 --> 00:01:17,714\n以110年來講是9%111年6%112年呢到14%那先請教一下司長這樣的解約率是低的還是高的\n\n5\n00:01:36,723 --> 00:01:50,696\n副委員這個解約率大概是12%左右這個解約率我們有盡量在想辦法就是看可不可以降低所以是偏高的那我想說的是\n\n6\n00:01:51,457 --> 00:02:11,330\n因為從辦理促參以來我看到提前終止契約的件數高達201件那解約的金額是1294.54億元所以這個提前終止契約的案件數是佔全體案件的12%\n\n7\n00:02:13,351 --> 00:02:41,126\n那我們的這個預算中心他有做這樣的解釋他說畜生案件的提前解約呢很容易發生設施設置不全待處理的問題還有資產閒置的問題以及常常被詬病的很多文字館的這樣的一個情勢所以我想說請您說明一下就是這個提前解約比例\n\n8\n00:02:41,886 --> 00:02:44,387\n這麼高它的原因是什麼?比較高的原因有時候是當然有部分是屬於政府可能政策有一些變更那另外也有一些是屬於民間機構它經營的部分或許有一些財務上的相關問題\n\n9\n00:03:08,461 --> 00:03:35,476\n還有就是說可能當時就是先期規劃的時候預估的東西跟事實上執行的不太一樣導致財務的部分可能有一些相關的一個狀況所以才會有解約的這種情況那請教就是看起來是連年都不是很理想那這邊促參司有沒有去想過怎麼預防或者是怎麼降低促參的解約率\n\n10\n00:03:37,622 --> 00:03:54,280\n跟委員這邊說明就是說其實我們從就是修法之後初參2.0之後其實我們致力於在我們的一些相關作業手冊的一些製作還有一些相關財務操作指引的一個製作\n\n11\n00:03:55,681 --> 00:04:21,928\n還有就是說我們希望就是做一些相關的一個招商文件可以讓我們的一個主辦機關有可以依循的一個部分那另外主辦機關他們在整個履約過程中我們是希望說他可以透過一個就是實際每年的一個訪視作業那看執行機關執行的一個狀況可以事先先做相關的防範\n\n12\n00:04:22,768 --> 00:04:38,155\n那另外財政部有一個督導考核的一個部分就是我們會考核就是主辦機關他每年做訪視就是履約中案件的一個訪視的一個相關的一個情形那另外最後就是說我們出差二點有新增一個\n\n13\n00:04:38,795 --> 00:04:59,953\n就是爭議調解的一個機制那假設說甲乙雙胞在履約有相關的一個困難或者是有一些爭執那也可以透過財政部的一個履約爭議調解的一個機制來叫我們申請調解那司長這個初三2.0上路以來有沒有改善有沒有效果\n\n14\n00:05:01,345 --> 00:05:15,181\n那我們這個促參到底這些民間他是很有意願是爭相來希望可以來參與還是說是我們求他們的比例比較高\n\n15\n00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:20,291\n市長,為什麼我這麼重視因為我們來看一下這個促參解約的類別文教、設施\n\n16\n00:05:43,988 --> 00:05:59,233\n陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠�\n\n17\n00:06:01,493 --> 00:06:27,959\n農電業的33、觀光油氣30那如果說我們再來看這些提前解約的金額觀光463億、文教267億、污水下水道171億如果去看它的占比也是很驚人觀光將近6成那公園綠地5成、社會福利也將近5成\n\n18\n00:06:29,113 --> 00:06:52,770\n那麼我們財政部金管會我們的財委會其實我們也很重視怎麼樣把這些保險金融他們的資金能夠進來參與我們的公共建設可是像這一些我們都已經可以知道可能的情形會發生的情形我就在想說\n\n19\n00:06:53,971 --> 00:07:21,742\n像這種觀光油氣它是金額最高的文教設施是建樹最多的農業資源循環再利用是簽約比最高的所以這個部分我是希望說要有一個策進作為我原鄉我多麼希望我們能夠投入更多的一個公共這些建設但是我這樣子看我很憂心\n\n20\n00:07:23,183 --> 00:07:31,930\n我怎麼能夠有期待呢所以是不是可以一個月內給我這個報告好吧好謝謝那再來請財政部長委員好部長請教您如果說我們做十大民怨調查您認為第一名是什麼\n\n21\n00:07:48,254 --> 00:08:04,606\n就我們所知青年人非常重視就住的一個問題對於有關房價都會有一些對是是這個很奇怪捏其實幾十年來不論哪一個政黨好像高房價始終是民怨之首\n\n22\n00:08:05,407 --> 00:08:24,170\n好像一直沒有辦法去抑制這個情形那我來看一下我們從清安一直到現在的新清安我們看一下它的貸款額度提高了一點點但是貸款期限增加10年寬限期也增加了2年\n\n23\n00:08:25,071 --> 00:08:40,525\n政府也做了利息補貼公股銀行也做了減半碼的優惠實施期程也不斷地在延長中好但是呢我想我們的購屋指數真的就是數一數二\n\n24\n00:08:41,286 --> 00:08:52,643\n陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員\n\n25\n00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:16,100\n他會影響到要不要結婚結婚就影響到有沒有生孩子然後就影響到我們未來的勞動力我們國家的生產力其實房子很重要很重要這是人生的首務所以我們想我們原住民其實更慘\n\n26\n00:09:17,501 --> 00:09:36,798\n我們原住民因為是原保地捏我們蓋房子我們還不能拿那個蓋房子的土地貸款捏所以我想這個部分它不疊反身成為笑柄那我們也已經很努力了我這是在想說這個部分請教一下部長你們有提到\n\n27\n00:09:38,876 --> 00:09:58,454\n當時大家在吵得沸沸揚揚在笑我們的時候變成笑柄不諜反聲財政部回應說無漏網之魚濫用者寧容忍投機客勿以身事法因為我們看到更多的投機客更多的人投戶更多的代後轉租\n\n28\n00:09:59,275 --> 00:10:05,419\n所以財政部也提到提供15項的規範可以讓大家去勾結有沒有這樣的狀況那麼你們截至這個8月我發現公股銀行自行篩選查證疑似高風險\n\n29\n00:10:16,787 --> 00:10:22,712\n也發現了做了兩波有1575件出租情勢的1366件人頭戶的209件部長你有沒有覺得這個數據嚴重低估\n\n30\n00:10:32,736 --> 00:10:50,263\n這個部分跟委員幫我們會持續的去做查核而且我們會透過政府的資料來相互比對來做查核我想這個部分是告訴所有的投資客要注意政府不會放任這樣的一個情形讓他們不要以宣誓法那你們有沒有去研議過\n\n31\n00:10:51,664 --> 00:11:07,519\n就是像這種炒作的、暴力的是不是來研擬修法把它列入經濟犯罪嗎這個倒還沒有涉及到那個經濟犯罪第一個就是說我們幾十年來啦不管哪個政府哪個政黨\n\n32\n00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:31,027\n因為他有違規的話那我們的銀行就會跟他重新談這個貸款條件也就是剛剛委員所羅列出來的新清安第一個政府有利息補貼第二個貸款的期限拉長寬限期也不一樣那這個時候他就要回到非新清安的一般的條件甚至利率也會有不同這個部分是由從這樣來做那第二個部分目前來說新清安只\n\n33\n00:11:31,927 --> 00:11:52,905\n懲戴一次,一生只懲戴一次也就是說你用過以後讓你違規了以後不可能再用或你把房子賣掉以後就回到一般的貸款我覺得這個部分可以遏止他進進出出這樣子去賺取這個差價好,我其實不管什麼新清安貸款我覺得那個都是一個抑制高房價的一個工具\n\n34\n00:11:53,906 --> 00:12:13,512\n提供我們居住正義的一個工具但是始終我們的根源是沒有改善的所以我覺得財政部這個地方可能要跟其他的部會繼續的要來想怎麼樣的策進作為是真正有效的我想這個才是重點因為\n\n35\n00:12:15,913 --> 00:12:35,087\n從房價他會影響到的其實是層面非常的廣算是一個國安的一個問題所以我也希望說一個月內我想要來了解看看我們能不能夠再想出更好的一個策進作為阿姨也給我一個報告好嗎好謝謝委員謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝伍麗華接著我們請陳一貞委員質詢\n\n36\n00:12:45,004 --> 00:12:45,407\n主席一號謝謝主委請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1069\t22114\t請部長先休息一下 先請促參司好 促參司 市長市長好我們看預算關於促參案\n24868\t43085\t這個今年提前終止契約的比率是比去年的同期更高那我來看一下一些數據依照促參法簽約的案件有1673件那民間投資的金額是1兆零161億元\n45683\t61171\t那麼這個契約期間呢估計可以減少政府的財政支出高達一兆8480億元增加政府的收入呢7134億創造超過18萬個就業機會所以從數據上來看是不錯的可是呢如果我們來看它的解約率\n73649\t77714\t以110年來講是9%111年6%112年呢到14%那先請教一下司長這樣的解約率是低的還是高的\n96723\t110696\t副委員這個解約率大概是12%左右這個解約率我們有盡量在想辦法就是看可不可以降低所以是偏高的那我想說的是\n111457\t131330\t因為從辦理促參以來我看到提前終止契約的件數高達201件那解約的金額是1294.54億元所以這個提前終止契約的案件數是佔全體案件的12%\n133351\t161126\t那我們的這個預算中心他有做這樣的解釋他說畜生案件的提前解約呢很容易發生設施設置不全待處理的問題還有資產閒置的問題以及常常被詬病的很多文字館的這樣的一個情勢所以我想說請您說明一下就是這個提前解約比例\n161886\t164387\t這麼高它的原因是什麼?比較高的原因有時候是當然有部分是屬於政府可能政策有一些變更那另外也有一些是屬於民間機構它經營的部分或許有一些財務上的相關問題\n188461\t215476\t還有就是說可能當時就是先期規劃的時候預估的東西跟事實上執行的不太一樣導致財務的部分可能有一些相關的一個狀況所以才會有解約的這種情況那請教就是看起來是連年都不是很理想那這邊促參司有沒有去想過怎麼預防或者是怎麼降低促參的解約率\n217622\t234280\t跟委員這邊說明就是說其實我們從就是修法之後初參2.0之後其實我們致力於在我們的一些相關作業手冊的一些製作還有一些相關財務操作指引的一個製作\n235681\t261928\t還有就是說我們希望就是做一些相關的一個招商文件可以讓我們的一個主辦機關有可以依循的一個部分那另外主辦機關他們在整個履約過程中我們是希望說他可以透過一個就是實際每年的一個訪視作業那看執行機關執行的一個狀況可以事先先做相關的防範\n262768\t278155\t那另外財政部有一個督導考核的一個部分就是我們會考核就是主辦機關他每年做訪視就是履約中案件的一個訪視的一個相關的一個情形那另外最後就是說我們出差二點有新增一個\n278795\t299953\t就是爭議調解的一個機制那假設說甲乙雙胞在履約有相關的一個困難或者是有一些爭執那也可以透過財政部的一個履約爭議調解的一個機制來叫我們申請調解那司長 這個初三2.0上路以來有沒有改善有沒有效果\n301345\t315181\t那我們這個促參到底這些民間他是很有意願是爭相來希望可以來參與還是說是我們求他們的比例比較高\n318390\t320291\t市長,為什麼我這麼重視因為我們來看一下這個促參解約的類別文教、設施\n343988\t359233\t陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠�\n361493\t387959\t農電業的33、觀光油氣30那如果說我們再來看這些提前解約的金額觀光463億、文教267億、污水下水道171億如果去看它的占比也是很驚人觀光將近6成那公園綠地5成、社會福利也將近5成\n389113\t412770\t那麼我們財政部金管會我們的財委會其實我們也很重視怎麼樣把這些保險金融他們的資金能夠進來參與我們的公共建設可是像這一些我們都已經可以知道可能的情形會發生的情形我就在想說\n413971\t441742\t像這種觀光油氣它是金額最高的文教設施是建樹最多的農業資源循環再利用是簽約比最高的所以這個部分我是希望說要有一個策進作為我原鄉我多麼希望我們能夠投入更多的一個公共這些建設但是我這樣子看我很憂心\n443183\t451930\t我怎麼能夠有期待呢所以是不是可以一個月內給我這個報告好吧好 謝謝那再來請財政部長委員好部長請教您如果說我們做十大民怨調查您認為第一名是什麼\n468254\t484606\t就我們所知青年人非常重視就住的一個問題對於有關房價都會有一些對 是是這個很奇怪捏其實幾十年來不論哪一個政黨好像高房價始終是民怨之首\n485407\t504170\t好像一直沒有辦法去抑制這個情形那我來看一下我們從清安一直到現在的新清安我們看一下它的貸款額度提高了一點點但是貸款期限增加10年寬限期也增加了2年\n505071\t520525\t政府也做了利息補貼公股銀行也做了減半碼的優惠實施期程也不斷地在延長中好 但是呢 我想我們的購屋指數真的就是數一數二\n521286\t532643\t陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員\n537370\t556100\t他會影響到要不要結婚結婚就影響到有沒有生孩子然後就影響到我們未來的勞動力我們國家的生產力其實房子很重要很重要這是人生的首務所以我們想我們原住民其實更慘\n557501\t576798\t我們原住民因為是原保地捏我們蓋房子我們還不能拿那個蓋房子的土地貸款捏所以我想這個部分它不疊反身成為笑柄那我們也已經很努力了我這是在想說這個部分請教一下部長你們有提到\n578876\t598454\t當時大家在吵得沸沸揚揚在笑我們的時候變成笑柄不諜反聲財政部回應說無漏網之魚濫用者寧容忍投機客勿以身事法因為我們看到更多的投機客更多的人投戶更多的代後轉租\n599275\t605419\t所以財政部也提到提供15項的規範可以讓大家去勾結有沒有這樣的狀況那麼你們截至這個8月我發現公股銀行自行篩選查證疑似高風險\n616787\t622712\t也發現了做了兩波有1575件出租情勢的1366件人頭戶的209件部長你有沒有覺得這個數據嚴重低估\n632736\t650263\t這個部分跟委員幫我們會持續的去做查核而且我們會透過政府的資料來相互比對來做查核我想這個部分是告訴所有的投資客要注意政府不會放任這樣的一個情形讓他們不要以宣誓法那你們有沒有去研議過\n651664\t667519\t就是像這種炒作的、暴力的是不是來研擬修法把它列入經濟犯罪嗎這個倒還沒有涉及到那個經濟犯罪第一個就是說我們幾十年來啦不管哪個政府哪個政黨\n668100\t691027\t因為他有違規的話那我們的銀行就會跟他重新談這個貸款條件也就是剛剛委員所羅列出來的新清安第一個政府有利息補貼第二個貸款的期限拉長寬限期也不一樣那這個時候他就要回到非新清安的一般的條件甚至利率也會有不同這個部分是由從這樣來做那第二個部分目前來說新清安只\n691927\t712905\t懲戴一次,一生只懲戴一次也就是說你用過以後讓你違規了以後不可能再用或你把房子賣掉以後就回到一般的貸款我覺得這個部分可以遏止他進進出出這樣子去賺取這個差價好,我其實不管什麼新清安貸款我覺得那個都是一個抑制高房價的一個工具\n713906\t733512\t提供我們居住正義的一個工具但是始終我們的根源是沒有改善的所以我覺得財政部這個地方可能要跟其他的部會繼續的要來想怎麼樣的策進作為是真正有效的我想這個才是重點因為\n735913\t755087\t從房價他會影響到的其實是層面非常的廣算是一個國安的一個問題所以我也希望說一個月內我想要來了解看看我們能不能夠再想出更好的一個策進作為阿姨也給我一個報告好嗎好 謝謝委員謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝伍麗華接著我們請陳一貞委員質詢\n765004\t765407\t主席一號謝謝主委請\n","txt":"請部長先休息一下 先請促參司好 促參司 市長市長好我們看預算關於促參案\n這個今年提前終止契約的比率是比去年的同期更高那我來看一下一些數據依照促參法簽約的案件有1673件那民間投資的金額是1兆零161億元\n那麼這個契約期間呢估計可以減少政府的財政支出高達一兆8480億元增加政府的收入呢7134億創造超過18萬個就業機會所以從數據上來看是不錯的可是呢如果我們來看它的解約率\n以110年來講是9%111年6%112年呢到14%那先請教一下司長這樣的解約率是低的還是高的\n副委員這個解約率大概是12%左右這個解約率我們有盡量在想辦法就是看可不可以降低所以是偏高的那我想說的是\n因為從辦理促參以來我看到提前終止契約的件數高達201件那解約的金額是1294.54億元所以這個提前終止契約的案件數是佔全體案件的12%\n那我們的這個預算中心他有做這樣的解釋他說畜生案件的提前解約呢很容易發生設施設置不全待處理的問題還有資產閒置的問題以及常常被詬病的很多文字館的這樣的一個情勢所以我想說請您說明一下就是這個提前解約比例\n這麼高它的原因是什麼?比較高的原因有時候是當然有部分是屬於政府可能政策有一些變更那另外也有一些是屬於民間機構它經營的部分或許有一些財務上的相關問題\n還有就是說可能當時就是先期規劃的時候預估的東西跟事實上執行的不太一樣導致財務的部分可能有一些相關的一個狀況所以才會有解約的這種情況那請教就是看起來是連年都不是很理想那這邊促參司有沒有去想過怎麼預防或者是怎麼降低促參的解約率\n跟委員這邊說明就是說其實我們從就是修法之後初參2.0之後其實我們致力於在我們的一些相關作業手冊的一些製作還有一些相關財務操作指引的一個製作\n還有就是說我們希望就是做一些相關的一個招商文件可以讓我們的一個主辦機關有可以依循的一個部分那另外主辦機關他們在整個履約過程中我們是希望說他可以透過一個就是實際每年的一個訪視作業那看執行機關執行的一個狀況可以事先先做相關的防範\n那另外財政部有一個督導考核的一個部分就是我們會考核就是主辦機關他每年做訪視就是履約中案件的一個訪視的一個相關的一個情形那另外最後就是說我們出差二點有新增一個\n就是爭議調解的一個機制那假設說甲乙雙胞在履約有相關的一個困難或者是有一些爭執那也可以透過財政部的一個履約爭議調解的一個機制來叫我們申請調解那司長 這個初三2.0上路以來有沒有改善有沒有效果\n那我們這個促參到底這些民間他是很有意願是爭相來希望可以來參與還是說是我們求他們的比例比較高\n市長,為什麼我這麼重視因為我們來看一下這個促參解約的類別文教、設施\n陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠�\n農電業的33、觀光油氣30那如果說我們再來看這些提前解約的金額觀光463億、文教267億、污水下水道171億如果去看它的占比也是很驚人觀光將近6成那公園綠地5成、社會福利也將近5成\n那麼我們財政部金管會我們的財委會其實我們也很重視怎麼樣把這些保險金融他們的資金能夠進來參與我們的公共建設可是像這一些我們都已經可以知道可能的情形會發生的情形我就在想說\n像這種觀光油氣它是金額最高的文教設施是建樹最多的農業資源循環再利用是簽約比最高的所以這個部分我是希望說要有一個策進作為我原鄉我多麼希望我們能夠投入更多的一個公共這些建設但是我這樣子看我很憂心\n我怎麼能夠有期待呢所以是不是可以一個月內給我這個報告好吧好 謝謝那再來請財政部長委員好部長請教您如果說我們做十大民怨調查您認為第一名是什麼\n就我們所知青年人非常重視就住的一個問題對於有關房價都會有一些對 是是這個很奇怪捏其實幾十年來不論哪一個政黨好像高房價始終是民怨之首\n好像一直沒有辦法去抑制這個情形那我來看一下我們從清安一直到現在的新清安我們看一下它的貸款額度提高了一點點但是貸款期限增加10年寬限期也增加了2年\n政府也做了利息補貼公股銀行也做了減半碼的優惠實施期程也不斷地在延長中好 但是呢 我想我們的購屋指數真的就是數一數二\n陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員\n他會影響到要不要結婚結婚就影響到有沒有生孩子然後就影響到我們未來的勞動力我們國家的生產力其實房子很重要很重要這是人生的首務所以我們想我們原住民其實更慘\n我們原住民因為是原保地捏我們蓋房子我們還不能拿那個蓋房子的土地貸款捏所以我想這個部分它不疊反身成為笑柄那我們也已經很努力了我這是在想說這個部分請教一下部長你們有提到\n當時大家在吵得沸沸揚揚在笑我們的時候變成笑柄不諜反聲財政部回應說無漏網之魚濫用者寧容忍投機客勿以身事法因為我們看到更多的投機客更多的人投戶更多的代後轉租\n所以財政部也提到提供15項的規範可以讓大家去勾結有沒有這樣的狀況那麼你們截至這個8月我發現公股銀行自行篩選查證疑似高風險\n也發現了做了兩波有1575件出租情勢的1366件人頭戶的209件部長你有沒有覺得這個數據嚴重低估\n這個部分跟委員幫我們會持續的去做查核而且我們會透過政府的資料來相互比對來做查核我想這個部分是告訴所有的投資客要注意政府不會放任這樣的一個情形讓他們不要以宣誓法那你們有沒有去研議過\n就是像這種炒作的、暴力的是不是來研擬修法把它列入經濟犯罪嗎這個倒還沒有涉及到那個經濟犯罪第一個就是說我們幾十年來啦不管哪個政府哪個政黨\n因為他有違規的話那我們的銀行就會跟他重新談這個貸款條件也就是剛剛委員所羅列出來的新清安第一個政府有利息補貼第二個貸款的期限拉長寬限期也不一樣那這個時候他就要回到非新清安的一般的條件甚至利率也會有不同這個部分是由從這樣來做那第二個部分目前來說新清安只\n懲戴一次,一生只懲戴一次也就是說你用過以後讓你違規了以後不可能再用或你把房子賣掉以後就回到一般的貸款我覺得這個部分可以遏止他進進出出這樣子去賺取這個差價好,我其實不管什麼新清安貸款我覺得那個都是一個抑制高房價的一個工具\n提供我們居住正義的一個工具但是始終我們的根源是沒有改善的所以我覺得財政部這個地方可能要跟其他的部會繼續的要來想怎麼樣的策進作為是真正有效的我想這個才是重點因為\n從房價他會影響到的其實是層面非常的廣算是一個國安的一個問題所以我也希望說一個月內我想要來了解看看我們能不能夠再想出更好的一個策進作為阿姨也給我一個報告好嗎好 謝謝委員謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝伍麗華接著我們請陳一貞委員質詢\n主席一號謝謝主委請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.069 --> 00:22.114\n請部長先休息一下先請促參司好促參司市長市長好我們看預算關於促參案\n\n00:24.868 --> 00:43.085\n這個今年提前終止契約的比率是比去年的同期更高那我來看一下一些數據依照促參法簽約的案件有1673件那民間投資的金額是1兆零161億元\n\n00:45.683 --> 01:01.171\n那麼這個契約期間呢估計可以減少政府的財政支出高達一兆8480億元增加政府的收入呢7134億創造超過18萬個就業機會所以從數據上來看是不錯的可是呢如果我們來看它的解約率\n\n01:13.649 --> 01:17.714\n以110年來講是9%111年6%112年呢到14%那先請教一下司長這樣的解約率是低的還是高的\n\n01:36.723 --> 01:50.696\n副委員這個解約率大概是12%左右這個解約率我們有盡量在想辦法就是看可不可以降低所以是偏高的那我想說的是\n\n01:51.457 --> 02:11.330\n因為從辦理促參以來我看到提前終止契約的件數高達201件那解約的金額是1294.54億元所以這個提前終止契約的案件數是佔全體案件的12%\n\n02:13.351 --> 02:41.126\n那我們的這個預算中心他有做這樣的解釋他說畜生案件的提前解約呢很容易發生設施設置不全待處理的問題還有資產閒置的問題以及常常被詬病的很多文字館的這樣的一個情勢所以我想說請您說明一下就是這個提前解約比例\n\n02:41.886 --> 02:44.387\n這麼高它的原因是什麼?比較高的原因有時候是當然有部分是屬於政府可能政策有一些變更那另外也有一些是屬於民間機構它經營的部分或許有一些財務上的相關問題\n\n03:08.461 --> 03:35.476\n還有就是說可能當時就是先期規劃的時候預估的東西跟事實上執行的不太一樣導致財務的部分可能有一些相關的一個狀況所以才會有解約的這種情況那請教就是看起來是連年都不是很理想那這邊促參司有沒有去想過怎麼預防或者是怎麼降低促參的解約率\n\n03:37.622 --> 03:54.280\n跟委員這邊說明就是說其實我們從就是修法之後初參2.0之後其實我們致力於在我們的一些相關作業手冊的一些製作還有一些相關財務操作指引的一個製作\n\n03:55.681 --> 04:21.928\n還有就是說我們希望就是做一些相關的一個招商文件可以讓我們的一個主辦機關有可以依循的一個部分那另外主辦機關他們在整個履約過程中我們是希望說他可以透過一個就是實際每年的一個訪視作業那看執行機關執行的一個狀況可以事先先做相關的防範\n\n04:22.768 --> 04:38.155\n那另外財政部有一個督導考核的一個部分就是我們會考核就是主辦機關他每年做訪視就是履約中案件的一個訪視的一個相關的一個情形那另外最後就是說我們出差二點有新增一個\n\n04:38.795 --> 04:59.953\n就是爭議調解的一個機制那假設說甲乙雙胞在履約有相關的一個困難或者是有一些爭執那也可以透過財政部的一個履約爭議調解的一個機制來叫我們申請調解那司長這個初三2.0上路以來有沒有改善有沒有效果\n\n05:01.345 --> 05:15.181\n那我們這個促參到底這些民間他是很有意願是爭相來希望可以來參與還是說是我們求他們的比例比較高\n\n05:18.390 --> 05:20.291\n市長,為什麼我這麼重視因為我們來看一下這個促參解約的類別文教、設施\n\n05:43.988 --> 05:59.233\n陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠廷等19人、委員陳冠�\n\n06:01.493 --> 06:27.959\n農電業的33、觀光油氣30那如果說我們再來看這些提前解約的金額觀光463億、文教267億、污水下水道171億如果去看它的占比也是很驚人觀光將近6成那公園綠地5成、社會福利也將近5成\n\n06:29.113 --> 06:52.770\n那麼我們財政部金管會我們的財委會其實我們也很重視怎麼樣把這些保險金融他們的資金能夠進來參與我們的公共建設可是像這一些我們都已經可以知道可能的情形會發生的情形我就在想說\n\n06:53.971 --> 07:21.742\n像這種觀光油氣它是金額最高的文教設施是建樹最多的農業資源循環再利用是簽約比最高的所以這個部分我是希望說要有一個策進作為我原鄉我多麼希望我們能夠投入更多的一個公共這些建設但是我這樣子看我很憂心\n\n07:23.183 --> 07:31.930\n我怎麼能夠有期待呢所以是不是可以一個月內給我這個報告好吧好謝謝那再來請財政部長委員好部長請教您如果說我們做十大民怨調查您認為第一名是什麼\n\n07:48.254 --> 08:04.606\n就我們所知青年人非常重視就住的一個問題對於有關房價都會有一些對是是這個很奇怪捏其實幾十年來不論哪一個政黨好像高房價始終是民怨之首\n\n08:05.407 --> 08:24.170\n好像一直沒有辦法去抑制這個情形那我來看一下我們從清安一直到現在的新清安我們看一下它的貸款額度提高了一點點但是貸款期限增加10年寬限期也增加了2年\n\n08:25.071 --> 08:40.525\n政府也做了利息補貼公股銀行也做了減半碼的優惠實施期程也不斷地在延長中好但是呢我想我們的購屋指數真的就是數一數二\n\n08:41.286 --> 08:52.643\n陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員陳冠廷等26人、委員\n\n08:57.370 --> 09:16.100\n他會影響到要不要結婚結婚就影響到有沒有生孩子然後就影響到我們未來的勞動力我們國家的生產力其實房子很重要很重要這是人生的首務所以我們想我們原住民其實更慘\n\n09:17.501 --> 09:36.798\n我們原住民因為是原保地捏我們蓋房子我們還不能拿那個蓋房子的土地貸款捏所以我想這個部分它不疊反身成為笑柄那我們也已經很努力了我這是在想說這個部分請教一下部長你們有提到\n\n09:38.876 --> 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