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00:01:10,840\n市長,我想我們怎麼樣輔導這個電商平台加強這個資安的一個跟各自的一個保護但是現在因為這個上有政策下有對策你看剛剛那麼多委員舉了很多例子你們有一個新的作為但是這個\n\n5\n00:01:11,581 --> 00:01:12,662\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸\n\n6\n00:01:27,705 --> 00:01:28,445\n我請署長再補充一下\n\n7\n00:01:53,001 --> 00:02:01,757\n對,部長我想除了要求他們要配合之外,我們真的有沒有什麼監督的機制,到底應有者不有者,我們有沒有怎麼樣一個監督機制來檢視一下。\n\n8\n00:02:04,063 --> 00:02:31,762\n主要是兩個一個是行政檢查就是我們應該是所有大型電商都檢查了就看他們自然有沒有做好各自有沒有外有沒有保護有沒有做好這個那第二個是我們還會用防炸雷達去集合他看他有沒有一些違法的一些販賣界違法的一些產品或者一些詐騙的一些商品這個我們都會用外部的低量拒接當然剛剛陳吳魯委員講他們關鍵字都會變嘛所以我們會一直在更新我們的關鍵字\n\n9\n00:02:32,813 --> 00:02:34,775\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸\n\n10\n00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:50,590\n徐富癸\n\n11\n00:03:05,327 --> 00:03:19,884\n市長,另外本市比較擔心因為這個有牽扯到數位的速發部之後還有我們經濟部還有交通部好幾個部會啦齁,我今天說這個跌穿交之後齁到底什麼人要補償什麼人要處理什麼部分有沒有一個怎樣的一個完整的一個機制\n\n12\n00:03:23,623 --> 00:03:42,070\n委員講的是就是我們這個跨部會的一個協調的機制到底有沒有各就各位我們有一個分工的原則我們現在是有通常會在要召集各部會來做一些網路網路網際網路的分工的原則大家都在探討\n\n13\n00:03:43,731 --> 00:03:59,759\n對,有這個原則我知道但是到底會不會就這樣的原則去落實去處理我們擔心是有這個架構但是到時候各推各的責任目前就我們的部分我們執行的還可以就在電商的部分其實現在已經沒有列入165的高風險的賣場我們本部俠管的\n\n14\n00:04:03,516 --> 00:04:28,675\n所以是不是未來我們針對這樣一個跨部位的機制我們要怎麼樣加速一個資安通報的一個流程有效處理這個駭客入侵的案子數位部有信心嗎那個資安通報我們也有設的這樣一個機制所以本來就是在接受各方面通報這個是的確有這樣的機制都存在所以任何資安的事件我們都會很快的收到通報然後通知大家這樣\n\n15\n00:04:29,335 --> 00:04:58,315\n部長這個剛剛我們很多委員有提到說我們出入的速度真的有比較慢一點這個真的要再檢討一下內部檢討一下另外第一個針對我們2025即將邁入這個超高齡的一個社會那我們面臨所謂一個老人照顧的一個需求還有少子化帶來一個勞動力一個短缺的一個挑戰那我想請教部長針對這個我們現在5G專品的一個運用在所謂的醫療機器人來巡視病房\n\n16\n00:04:58,815 --> 00:05:25,838\n或是進行一個視訊診療的部分部長這部分是不是有跟衛福部有做一個相關的一個合作的一個機制這個我們有一些AI的補助計畫那這個計畫申請的公司其實也有跨剛剛講就像衛福這一邊我是不是請署長做個說明我們舉兩個案例第一個是我們有一個安妮婆婆的她就照顧老人需要讓外傭去練習怎麼去翻身嘛這個安妮婆婆的一個另外的話\n\n17\n00:05:26,579 --> 00:05:33,725\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富\n\n18\n00:05:54,662 --> 00:06:20,362\n我們技術上就是用生成式AI跟這些部位來產生更好的服務這個有在進行對另外我們很多的農民朋友他們也擔心這個缺工的問題那所以目前公民院有透過5G跟AI辨識系統有一個開發一個自動巡檢的一個設備這個可以做到一些人力的一個減少的一個需求那這部分是不是輸貨部有沒有相關的一個輔導的機制\n\n19\n00:06:22,203 --> 00:06:46,115\n對這個就是利用這個剛剛講的自動巡檢用這個影像辨識AI判斷啊這個也是一個在農業上的巡就是說用無人機啊這些去做巡檢這個是也是一個趨勢那我們也在技術上對那個可以擴散這個我們已經有計劃我們從其實從黑木耳開始香菇、蘭花等等我們會持續擴散到不同的這個作物是相同的方法\n\n20\n00:06:46,835 --> 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