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00:02:19,305\n當然我可以知道這個很辛苦啦可是總是你預估跟你達到差距很遠或說這個做不到我覺得就不是很妥當啦就民眾而言其實民眾對政府還是希望能夠行的那你知道現在我們保育隊的食譜大概還有多少隻?\n\n8\n00:02:20,694 --> 00:02:25,055\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條\n\n9\n00:02:41,021 --> 00:02:55,739\n我們人工的急救站讓它誕生出來而且有做過相關的這個規避這個犬隻的訓練的這個死虎也放之後大概不到一個月左右就死掉就被攻擊死亡了所以\n\n10\n00:02:56,340 --> 00:03:00,322\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案\n\n11\n00:03:16,954 --> 00:03:24,579\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法\n\n12\n00:03:46,143 --> 00:03:58,380\n15死亡入沙的比例遠比犬隻還高兩雙：那是另外一個原因我懂那是另外一個原因但是我必須講一個就是說如果我們的遊蕩犬沒有管理好的話他會造成其他的問題\n\n13\n00:04:00,422 --> 00:04:21,572\n當然我們也知道為什麼這個遊蕩犬他的數量也降不低其實有一個問題就是民眾會餵食當然這民眾他也是去一個愛心去餵食但是我想說餵食的問題還是要想辦法解決對不對然後包括收容的問題我希望說你們還是能夠提供一個比較有效的方式看要怎麼樣\n\n14\n00:04:22,898 --> 00:04:28,542\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案。\n\n15\n00:04:49,838 --> 00:04:53,300\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案\n\n16\n00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:09,969\n部分條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案\n\n17\n00:05:25,857 --> 00:05:40,769\n就是畢竟我們是以農立國有什麼方式可以盡速的去給這些農人能夠給他們相關的補償能夠趕快做到尤其宜蘭這次到今天我看那個到昨天新聞都那邊的影響都還蠻劇烈的\n\n18\n00:05:42,550 --> 00:06:11,171\n我兩個回答。第一個部分就是我們天然災害救助的一個補償是用成本的百分之二十去計算。第二個部分就是我在上次颱風到宜蘭的時候我也當場承諾就是說我們在年底的時候會去重新檢討這個天然災害救助金額的合理性因為有一部分的作物已經很久沒調了我們會根據它的種植的成本重新去計算去公布新的一個救助的一個標準\n\n19\n00:06:11,391 --> 00:06:13,494\n條文修正草案．及動物保護法部分條文修正草案。\n\n20\n00:06:30,934 --> 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