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00:02:39,382\n週延的一個特別預算的可能性那這個時候再希望大院能夠支持但是它一定是要符合我們自我防衛能力提升的一個需要來建置這樣子好換句話說是持續的在增長我們的目標大概是如此不管你的來源116年這個特別預算終止之後你還是希望仍舊有一個\n\n9\n00:02:41,653 --> 00:03:02,679\n持續穩健成長的一個目標這樣子所以本席要請教這個歐布萊恩在6月份的時候他也表示他希望是要提升到5%所以本席要請教剛剛你回答得非常的清楚也就是我們是穩健性的以防衛為基準的來增加\n\n10\n00:03:03,399 --> 00:03:21,811\n那換句話說116年的特別預算到了之後那你也希望未來還是有特別預算的方式來運作所以要請教川普在選舉的時候他提出了要我們叫保護會所以你穩健的成長是不是就是這個保護會的概念\n\n11\n00:03:24,754 --> 00:03:48,401\n我沒有辦法幫這個我們即將就任的川普先生來回答這個合會的保護會但是我想我們就我們的立場就是說我們會有多元的籌購來提升自我防衛能力的這個管道來那這個也當然包括向美國從事軍事採購\n\n12\n00:03:50,950 --> 00:04:13,916\n那充斥軍事採購的這些必要的武器裝備甚至訓練等等都要符合我們作戰的實際需求嗎我只能夠這樣講那我們呢過去我覺得到未來也是如此我們都是根據既有的軍事交流機制然後我們探尋美方的意願我們會探尋那美方覺得OK那才能夠進行採購\n\n13\n00:04:16,137 --> 00:04:31,210\n總歸一句話就是以防衛為基準點到目前回答的方向是如此對然後還要跟美國政府來進行溝通當然所以因此本期要請教來90年以後我們出生的義南在113年開始我們開始回復這個徵集\n\n14\n00:04:36,534 --> 00:04:42,636\n長輩兵役一年所以本席要請教110年我們最高是16.5萬人到112、111你減了將近5000多人各別在這樣的情況之下我們創了新低113年6月底我們降到15.2萬人所以請教部長這也是107年來最低的請教部長\n\n15\n00:05:04,784 --> 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