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00:01:59,551\n你要去統計好不好所以如果你沒有關於這些外籍人士所以我要問你人民現在繳的稅金有包含外籍人士繳的稅金嗎外籍人士應該都有啊都有的話為什麼編列預算在防詐網站是不是有多種議員\n\n7\n00:02:01,084 --> 00:02:02,405\n所以說我們這個網站都沒有多種語言嘛所以說是是說165而已嘛\n\n8\n00:02:17,014 --> 00:02:22,876\n所以這樣子的話我看到的就是防詐資訊協助的就是一般民眾缺雜對在台的外籍人士的協助當他面臨就是特殊的詐騙的狀況就是沒有一個管道也沒有這樣子的求助所以說我們如何檢舉機制還有保護的措施我想要問你的是這一塊\n\n9\n00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:44,870\n我們自己目前正在測試加入網路詐騙通報查詢網\n\n10\n00:03:04,661 --> 00:03:12,383\n對但是我們每次我們民眾打電話就是進我們的防詐中心都會經常被回復的就是兩個國外的帳號無法查詢國外的詐騙集團無法追蹤就是詐騙的中心回的都是這個所以部長有沒有考慮說成立一個多種語言專屬的團隊專責調查協助\n\n11\n00:03:32,067 --> 00:03:35,449\n查緝國外內的詐騙集團以多元的方式就是預防減少國民還有外籍人士在台灣的受害才實現雙方的保護也讓關於防詐中心也成為我們新住民或者多種演員也成為我們打詐的主力所以部長你有沒有覺得這個有必要\n\n12\n00:03:58,359 --> 00:04:11,277\n包括委員當然我覺得這有必要但是我們會回去再跟內政部警政署把這東西看能怎麼樣放上去因為對那是我們不想聽的就是研議中努力中希望是有一個真正的規劃\n\n13\n00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:36,247\n對但是我看你編列了6千萬的費用是以預防詐騙還是減少詐騙這比費用廣告及媒體的預算知否真正的發揮了保護人民的功能還是甚至還是只是對特定的廠商就是有利\n\n14\n00:04:37,977 --> 00:04:53,019\n這個是給民眾用的這個是我們說網路通報詐騙通報查詢是給民眾看到訊息不確定是不是詐騙之前能夠來查詢所以我才說你們就是6千萬嘛一千萬的話第一千萬就是要自己\n\n15\n00:04:53,599 --> 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