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00:03:43,724\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n13\n00:04:02,685 --> 00:04:05,086\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n14\n00:04:17,930 --> 00:04:18,950\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n15\n00:04:44,796 --> 00:05:02,642\n希望第一個問題就是教育訓練第二個呢像這個韓式應該也要廢除再來就是我們跨部會的系統整合也要趕快處理還有一些涉及到原住民身份法、民法這一些是不是部會溝通的進度那我其實在9月已經開過協調會啦我是想要知道進度如何\n\n16\n00:05:09,502 --> 00:05:24,847\n委員有三個提問的部分有關於91年的內政部那個函是我們在11月的時候會廢止那其他有關這個互證人員或是其他相關部會的這個系統整合的進度我是不是請我們司長來回應一下好嗎\n\n17\n00:05:27,316 --> 00:05:48,577\n有關這個資訊系統的部分我們在5月17號今年5月23號已經邀集相關機關召開一個會議那請各機關要調整他的資訊系統姓名欄位大概目前已經有請機關陸陸續續在做板根了是以上的說明好謝謝都有進度那主席再給我一分鐘我想要邀請國家公園署\n\n18\n00:05:51,501 --> 00:05:56,085\n部長我簡單這樣講因為我進來立法院是2020年109年我第一個月就接到一個陳情就是我們花蓉萬榮鄉有一個叫摩里沙卡部落他希望可以跟我們的林田山做實質的共管那很感謝這些年來確實都真正的參與決策也真正的參與林田山的整個工作經營\n\n19\n00:06:14,758 --> 00:06:17,379\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。六、審查內政部主管部分。七、審查內政部主管部分。八、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n20\n00:06:38,211 --> 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Tahovecahe委員：部長好，首先我想先謝謝部長跟國土署，因為我在這次的院會總質詢提到，如果明年國土計畫法上路，我們的建物用地合法化之後，明年可以去縣市政府做建物的合法化登記，但可能會有一筆巨額的費用。就這個部分，要謝謝原民會跟內政部在我質詢之後，研議出一個不錯的方法─借用保存登記的概念，讓這一些舊有的房屋直接來申請合法，所以我要特別藉這個機會來表達謝意。","接下來，我想問部長知不知道我們原住民在今年上半年有兩個很重要的法，一個是原住民族身分法的修正，另外一個是姓名條例的修正；一個在1月公告，一個在5月公告。1月到6月，在這短短的半年，去回復原住民族身分或姓名的高達1萬3,000人，大概是歷年增幅最高的一次，我相信長此以往，對原住民族人口的增加或是身分的認可，其實是有很好效應。我在這裡介紹一下我們原住民族的姓名登記，目前己有四種方式可以隨你選擇，到了戶政事務所，可以用我們原住民族的文字來登記。其實原住民語言發展法早就說過，這個不叫作羅馬拼音，這個叫作原住民族文字，所以我們可以單列原住民族文字；也可以並列，就是漢名跟我們的原住民族文字；也可以用康熙字典作漢字的音譯；也可以漢字音譯，加我們的原住民族文字。主要是希望大家用正確的名字來呼喚我，就像我們講Paul，跟講保羅是不一樣的，講Mary跟瑪麗是不一樣的，我們很希望能夠被正確的呼喊名字。第二個好處是，因為憲法法庭所做的釋憲，我們也來修法修正，只要父母一方是原住民或兩方都是原住民，這四種方式都可以讓孩子取得原住民的身分。","但是這半年來，我們收到很多很多的陳情。例如有族人到臺中的某個戶政事務所，要去幫女兒取族名，希望用漢名、族名並列，但是戶政所的人員說，他要取的族名，在族人名譜裡面找不到，堅持不讓他登記；又或者是到了監理站，發現有線上服務，但因為它的欄位系統沒有辦法登入族名，所以還是被迫要親自跑一趟；還有人因為已經並列了，當他堅持簽他的原住民族名的時候，也會被要求寫漢名。為什麼？因為內政部民國91年的函釋說：顧及機關使用便利性，同意原住民單獨使用中文的傳統姓名，至於羅馬拼音的部分，社會各界還不熟悉，所以不能使用。又或者最多的情形是，好多人的爸爸媽媽已經去回復傳統名字，孩子想要保留原來的漢姓、漢名，結果他去並列登記的時候，戶政所告訴他說，他已經喪失原住民身分，因為他的爸爸媽媽已經改回原住民的名字，所以他就自動喪失原住民的身分。對此種種，我覺得內政部的第一個問題就是教育訓練；第二個像這種函釋也應該要廢除；再來就是跨部會系統的整合，也要趕快處理；還有一些涉及原住民身分法、民法，相關部會溝通的進度。其實本席在9月已經開過協調會，我想知道進度如何。"],["劉部長世芳：針對委員的三個提問，關於內政部在91年的那個函釋，我們會在11月廢止。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好。"],["劉部長世芳：有關戶政人員，或是其他相關部會的系統整合進度，我請司長來回應。"],["陳司長永智：跟委員報告，有關資訊系統的部分，我們在今年5月23日已經邀集相關機關召開會議，請各機關調整其資訊系統姓名、欄位，目前已經請機關陸陸續續在趕更。以上說明。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：謝謝，都有進度。請主席再給我一分鐘，我想要邀請國家公園署。部長，我簡單的講，我是2020年進立法院，也就是109年，我在第一個月就接到一份陳情，即：花蓮萬榮鄉的摩里沙卡部落希望可以跟林田山做實質共管，我們很感謝這些年來確實都能真正參與決策，真正參與林田山的整個工作經營。可是現在問題來了，在0403地震之後，太魯閣國家公園說裡面有很多部落，很多傳統領域受到傷害，國家公園署也有邀請部落參與，但這個期程很漫長，預計要120年才能夠復建完成。這個時候太魯閣自治區有意見，因為他們聽到賴清德總統有一個政見，叫原住民落實自治，所以他們提出申請，在今年1月28日由內政部核准成立台灣太魯閣族自治協會，想要爭取自治的示範空間。這個跟我的質詢訴求也很一致，因為我在第一會期的院會總質詢問過卓榮泰院長，希望在原住民自治法上路之前，要有自治區、部落公法人的示範以及原住民族學校的示範點，都答應了，原民會也說OK了。現在我就只問一個問題：你們有沒有去討論？因為他們想要爭取太魯閣一起做自治空間、合作管理機制，也希望建立一個學校。對於這個自治空間，不曉得內政部跟太魯閣國家公園的意見怎麼樣？"],["劉處長守禮：跟委員報告，有關他們自治的這個想法，目前還在醞釀當中，我們也在聽取多方意見，在控管會議上面也都曾經提過，對於這部分，我們也會來了解看看。目前，我們是希望走社區合作營造的方式，大家先來凝聚共識。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：他們要求我近期可以召開一個跨部會的會議，我們到時候再來邀請。謝謝部長，謝謝主席。"],["主席：繼續請陳培瑜委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":374,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-15-9","speakers":["張宏陸","黃捷","李柏毅","張智倫","蘇巧慧","麥玉珍","牛煦庭","王美惠","高金素梅","黃建賓","吳琪銘","丁學忠","許宇甄","林德福","黃健豪","徐欣瑩","羅智強","洪孟楷","張雅琳","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","陳培瑜","楊瓊瓔","吳宗憲"],"page_start":79,"meetingDate":["2024-11-13"],"gazette_id":"1139701","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1139701_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢；二、審查114年度中央政府總預算\n案關於內政部主管部分；三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算內政部主管部分；\n四、審查內政部函送財團法人二二八事件紀念基金會等8家財團法人114年度預算書案；五、審查\n內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心114年度預算書案【所列預算案僅詢答，另訂時間處理】；\n六、審查「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例」修正草案，計八案：(一)審查行政\n院函請審議「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例部分條文修正草案」案、(二)審查\n委員林宜瑾等27人擬具「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例部分條文修正草案」\n案、(三)審查委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例部分條文\n修正草案」案、(四)審查委員黃捷等18人擬具「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例\n部分條文修正草案」案、(五)審查委員吳沛憶等24人擬具「威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權\n利回復條例部分條文修正草案」案、(六)審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「威權統治時期國家不法行\n為被害者權利回復條例部分條文修正草案」案、(七)審查委員張雅琳等25人擬具「威權統治時期\n國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例部分條文修正草案」案、(八)審查委員陳培瑜等18人擬具「威\n權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復條例部分條文修正草案」案","agenda_id":"1139701_00003"}}}