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00:01:14,646\n我今天就想要跟部長談一下我們以公保地解編的這個問題我們以宜蘭來看當作一個例子來看當然公保地的解編這是全台灣都遇到的一個問題而且效率出奇的慢根本跟不上時代的變遷尤其現在少子化或一些狀況有一些土地它是不是還有當初你設計的那個用途其實現在都值得考量甚至人口居住地點的移動\n\n4\n00:01:16,383 --> 00:01:37,020\n三十年前這可能是一個非常熱鬧的地方但現在它可能是一片荒蕪嘛那這個很多東西是否要解編這個一定要跟著時代的速度在走所以我剛說的那三個指標吳定老師那三個指標我們在看說到底解編的這個問題是行政怠惰還是全國案量過大這可能請部長要稍微也要了解一下這個問題啦否則啊\n\n5\n00:01:39,262 --> 00:01:41,263\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n6\n00:02:00,672 --> 00:02:02,753\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n7\n00:02:30,572 --> 00:02:32,653\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n8\n00:02:52,446 --> 00:02:52,826\n四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n9\n00:03:08,061 --> 00:03:10,585\n二、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。五、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n10\n00:03:24,661 --> 00:03:50,452\n報告委員這個個案我不是那麼清楚但是我先跟委員報告一下公有地的解編確實是一個行政上面要拖非常長的時間我自己也協助過高雄的部分那宜蘭的部分是不是請國土署署長跟您回應一下好嗎請說好跟委員報告那宜蘭的部分它一共有22個這個都市計畫的部分那有19個已經都公開展覽了那接著跟委員報告我們都19個過幾個\n\n11\n00:04:00,681 --> 00:04:20,035\n有6個已經修正有發佈了那剩下13個還在審查那跟委員報告因為有時候的確因為我們這裡面解編以後有需要他們提出一些勢力重劃的一個可能性評估那往往在地方政府可能對這一塊他可能在進度上會比較慢\n\n12\n00:04:20,896 --> 00:04:39,717\n所以他只要確認那一個部分可行我們其實都會很快幫他結束但是你知道嗎人民那些民眾他們覺得縣政府已經做了這個調查希望幫助他解編嘛但是從縣政府的角度他認為說卡在中央然後民眾就對縣政府有意見那縣政府也告訴民眾說卡在中央\n\n13\n00:04:40,137 --> 00:05:01,143\n跟委員報告其實這裡面都有一些關鍵點也就是說當你提出來的這些解決方案其實是需要在財務上指引上要提出可能性的評估因為我們也擔心說像過去一起也辦過結果辦完以後地方政府拖了二三十年也沒有處理所以我們這一次的審查是要求你要把可行性方案提出來也經過我們確認我們才會同意\n\n14\n00:05:02,543 --> 00:05:03,164\n三、審查內政部部長\n\n15\n00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:20,326\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n16\n00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:41,829\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n17\n00:06:02,594 --> 00:06:04,415\n三、審查內政部主管部分。四、審查內政部主管部分。三、審查內政部主管部分。\n\n18\n00:06:30,647 --> 00:06:49,374\n所以這一點我們還是會持續來要求因為有些縣像有些縣市也是回去以後就放了4年他也沒拿出來部長就這樣啦嚴格把關沒有錯我也認同這個點但是一個把關不能是效率不好的一個代名詞不能這樣好不好我會把這個宜蘭的部分進度一點點了解我們也會繼續追這個問題啦因為我四處我都看到相同的這個狀況在那邊\n\n19\n00:06:55,776 --> 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