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00:03:53,391\n按照目前的進度應該是可以,我們也都會辦理相關的施工查核。好,那這部分就要再拜託我們提出持續的追蹤了。那我們從民眾的這種運動習慣調查來看,選擇到運動中心的人還是比較佔少數。這個原因到底是怎樣?我想請教副署長就是,我們要如何來創造民眾可以到運動中心的這個誘因?應該要如何做出這種市場的區隔?我想請教副署長。\n\n11\n00:03:54,231 --> 00:04:20,358\n這部分可能也跟委員報告一下大概就國內的民眾來講目前有付費在運動的概念可能還是需要我們這邊再努力來推展再推動因為國民運動中心在之前我們大概也補助了各縣市政府這邊設立了31座目前也都有在按照規定相關的規定在營運因為他是用OT的方式是委外廠商這邊來辦理相關的一個營運\n\n12\n00:04:21,258 --> 00:04:46,319\n所以OT的方式的話可能就會牽涉到相關一個收費標準的訂定可能就不會是像我們一般在田徑場那個學校田徑場或是公園裡面在運動是無場的所以有相關的這樣一個收費標準訂定之後這個可能就會造成民眾要進入到國民運動中心裡面運動是不是這麼可及他的一個這個價格是不是這麼親民\n\n13\n00:04:47,780 --> 00:04:47,800\n議員吳沛憶\n\n14\n00:05:04,406 --> 00:05:04,606\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n15\n00:05:26,445 --> 00:05:53,773\n是不是可以更有效的來提升並且推廣我們這個項目的一個增加的一個目標也可以提高這個誘因?因為目前這個階段我們其實也在推行新一個階段的公建計劃公共建設計劃是那個目前各縣市政府也都已經在申請然後陸續在核定當中委員這邊所提的有一些新興的運動項目那個在這些全民運動館或是熱火運動館\n\n16\n00:05:54,633 --> 00:05:54,873\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n17\n00:06:22,321 --> 00:06:48,106\n委員長早我想就教人事長就是如何來提升我們的運產中心作為行政法人的一個這個成效因為有關這個監督和評估的機制相關的規範是訂定在我們行政法人法當中但是我們對於這個運動產業賦予比較彈性的這種編制就是希望能夠達到更好的這種績效尤其在我們這個運產中心未來\n\n18\n00:06:50,506 --> 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那我想對於我們這個托育設施的設置我們除了希望能夠持續擴大來辦理之外那對於品質的這個把關以及是否能夠符合家長的這個需求和期待也是很重要的所以我這部分我想請教我們人總這邊對於員工子女托育的這個需求我們是多久去調查一次\n582930\t583091\t委員吳沛\n602372\t602792\t三）委員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席那我今天的質詢分兩階段首先我想先請那個我們教育部體育署的王副署長中間這階段再請我們人事長後面再請蘇理人事長準備請\n徐副署長早我們今天要審查的是這個行政院組織法和中央行政機關組織基準法那也是為了因應運動部所屬的這個機關成立那需要同步進行相關的這個修法那我想從昨天的這個巡討過程中大家都對運動部都樂觀其成也抱著期待那所以今天我想就運動部的業務以及相關的運動政策來就教我們體育署\n如果成立這個運動部是為了要發展全民運動有限的這個資源要如何的分配我想會更加的重要尤其如果能夠提高運動的這個設施的可及性照理說就更有機會能夠增加運動的人口\n以這個現況對於這種各種場域訓練場館可能都有不同的這種標準的管理方式那對於公有的這個訓練設施社區化有沒有分級管理的這種相關規範或是策略我想請教我們副署長\n吳沛憶等21人擬具\n吳沛憶等21人擬具 «行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案》案\n五）委員\n吳沛憶\n議案相較於雙北地區應該要再增加我們目前只看到宜蘭縣就是在宜蘭運動公園旁有一個國民運動中心另外還有一座就是之前副組長您去參加動工的在羅東的全民運動館目前在施工當中也希望明年可以順利來完工應該是可以吧\n按照目前的進度應該是可以,我們也都會辦理相關的施工查核。好,那這部分就要再拜託我們提出持續的追蹤了。那我們從民眾的這種運動習慣調查來看,選擇到運動中心的人還是比較佔少數。這個原因到底是怎樣?我想請教副署長就是,我們要如何來創造民眾可以到運動中心的這個誘因?應該要如何做出這種市場的區隔?我想請教副署長。\n這部分可能也跟委員報告一下大概就國內的民眾來講目前有付費在運動的概念可能還是需要我們這邊再努力來推展再推動因為國民運動中心在之前我們大概也補助了各縣市政府這邊設立了31座目前也都有在按照規定相關的規定在營運因為他是用OT的方式是委外廠商這邊來辦理相關的一個營運\n所以OT的方式的話可能就會牽涉到相關一個收費標準的訂定可能就不會是像我們一般在田徑場那個學校田徑場或是公園裡面在運動是無場的所以有相關的這樣一個收費標準訂定之後這個可能就會造成民眾要進入到國民運動中心裡面運動是不是這麼可及他的一個這個價格是不是這麼親民\n議員吳沛憶\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n是不是可以更有效的來提升並且推廣我們這個項目的一個增加的一個目標也可以提高這個誘因?因為目前這個階段我們其實也在推行新一個階段的公建計劃公共建設計劃是那個目前各縣市政府也都已經在申請然後陸續在核定當中委員這邊所提的有一些新興的運動項目那個在這些全民運動館或是熱火運動館\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n委員長早我想就教人事長就是如何來提升我們的運產中心作為行政法人的一個這個成效因為有關這個監督和評估的機制相關的規範是訂定在我們行政法人法當中但是我們對於這個運動產業賦予比較彈性的這種編制就是希望能夠達到更好的這種績效尤其在我們這個運產中心未來\n三）委員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n謝謝委員事實上人總他負責整個行政法人的一個業務推動就如同委員剛剛提到我們都會以實際性把像我事實上我們現在最近每一年都在檢討政府對\n對行政法輪的這些投資相關的事項就如同剛才委員提到了國發基金的引入還有目前經濟部他有相關運動產業科技相關領域的這些技術資源的引入事實上我們都是同步在評估評估之後假如有需要去修改行政法輪候我們會去進行這樣的一個動作\n好,那這部分再請我們人總研議讓未來運動部還有相關的這個三個行政法人能夠發揮最大的功效那另外有關這個我們人事總署明年所編列的這個預算在給予這個福利制度規劃的這個計畫當中有編列\n一條151萬8千元規劃內容也包括辦理公部門這個托育相關政策那其中我想就鼓勵各機關能夠推動來設置這個職場托育設施的部分來做探討我想請教這個任市長我們到今年為止我們公部門辦理托育的服務的情形為何那是否比去年有顯著的一個提升的效果\n我跟委員報告一下截至到今年9月30號我們總共有197個托嬰托育設施那\n我跟委員報告除了既有設施去改善他有一些困難性像要符合蕭王法規還有拉羅城的限制面積的限制之類同樣的我們也有協調內政部的國土署在一些新建的政府的這些公共設施裡面要一流拖音拖幼的這些設施我們是用多元的方式同時在推動\n好 那我想對於我們這個托育設施的設置我們除了希望能夠持續擴大來辦理之外那對於品質的這個把關以及是否能夠符合家長的這個需求和期待也是很重要的所以我這部分我想請教我們人總這邊對於員工子女托育的這個需求我們是多久去調查一次\n委員吳沛\n三）委員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.292 --> 00:22.594\n好謝謝主席那我今天的質詢分兩階段首先我想先請那個我們教育部體育署的王副署長中間這階段再請我們人事長後面再請蘇理人事長準備請\n\n00:31.347 --> 00:59.747\n徐副署長早我們今天要審查的是這個行政院組織法和中央行政機關組織基準法那也是為了因應運動部所屬的這個機關成立那需要同步進行相關的這個修法那我想從昨天的這個巡討過程中大家都對運動部都樂觀其成也抱著期待那所以今天我想就運動部的業務以及相關的運動政策來就教我們體育署\n\n01:00.387 --> 01:15.445\n如果成立這個運動部是為了要發展全民運動有限的這個資源要如何的分配我想會更加的重要尤其如果能夠提高運動的這個設施的可及性照理說就更有機會能夠增加運動的人口\n\n01:16.246 --> 01:32.323\n以這個現況對於這種各種場域訓練場館可能都有不同的這種標準的管理方式那對於公有的這個訓練設施社區化有沒有分級管理的這種相關規範或是策略我想請教我們副署長\n\n01:32.824 --> 01:33.044\n吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n01:51.249 --> 01:52.030\n吳沛憶等21人擬具«行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案》案\n\n02:20.908 --> 02:20.988\n五）委員\n\n02:42.363 --> 02:42.383\n吳沛憶\n\n02:58.525 --> 03:23.508\n議案相較於雙北地區應該要再增加我們目前只看到宜蘭縣就是在宜蘭運動公園旁有一個國民運動中心另外還有一座就是之前副組長您去參加動工的在羅東的全民運動館目前在施工當中也希望明年可以順利來完工應該是可以吧\n\n03:24.228 --> 03:53.391\n按照目前的進度應該是可以,我們也都會辦理相關的施工查核。好,那這部分就要再拜託我們提出持續的追蹤了。那我們從民眾的這種運動習慣調查來看,選擇到運動中心的人還是比較佔少數。這個原因到底是怎樣?我想請教副署長就是,我們要如何來創造民眾可以到運動中心的這個誘因?應該要如何做出這種市場的區隔?我想請教副署長。\n\n03:54.231 --> 04:20.358\n這部分可能也跟委員報告一下大概就國內的民眾來講目前有付費在運動的概念可能還是需要我們這邊再努力來推展再推動因為國民運動中心在之前我們大概也補助了各縣市政府這邊設立了31座目前也都有在按照規定相關的規定在營運因為他是用OT的方式是委外廠商這邊來辦理相關的一個營運\n\n04:21.258 --> 04:46.319\n所以OT的方式的話可能就會牽涉到相關一個收費標準的訂定可能就不會是像我們一般在田徑場那個學校田徑場或是公園裡面在運動是無場的所以有相關的這樣一個收費標準訂定之後這個可能就會造成民眾要進入到國民運動中心裡面運動是不是這麼可及他的一個這個價格是不是這麼親民\n\n04:47.780 --> 04:47.800\n議員吳沛憶\n\n05:04.406 --> 05:04.606\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n05:26.445 --> 05:53.773\n是不是可以更有效的來提升並且推廣我們這個項目的一個增加的一個目標也可以提高這個誘因?因為目前這個階段我們其實也在推行新一個階段的公建計劃公共建設計劃是那個目前各縣市政府也都已經在申請然後陸續在核定當中委員這邊所提的有一些新興的運動項目那個在這些全民運動館或是熱火運動館\n\n05:54.633 --> 05:54.873\n議員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n06:22.321 --> 06:48.106\n委員長早我想就教人事長就是如何來提升我們的運產中心作為行政法人的一個這個成效因為有關這個監督和評估的機制相關的規範是訂定在我們行政法人法當中但是我們對於這個運動產業賦予比較彈性的這種編制就是希望能夠達到更好的這種績效尤其在我們這個運產中心未來\n\n06:50.506 --> 06:50.986\n三）委員吳沛憶等21人擬具\n\n07:13.471 --> 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