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00:02:39,213\n他的那個手段或策略這些所以也就是說在川普的任內是有高度的不確定性是有高度的不確定性就是說你自己也講得很清楚你即將面對新的一個挑戰這新的一個挑戰其實他充滿了不確定性那我們從就是在上週台晶宴他發布的最新的一個景氣的展望跟經濟的一個臆測\n\n8\n00:02:40,914 --> 00:02:56,261\n即使它推估今年的經濟成長率上修到4.03那明年它是就是等於是下降下降到3.15那你剛才講了你就是預估GDP是3.08這些數字對不對\n\n9\n00:02:59,922 --> 00:03:14,088\n這些所以我才會講所以我們在報告裡面我們會再講就是說因為有三大挑戰那這個三大挑戰一定會衝擊到台灣的經濟貿易所以我們的對策是現在我們應該我們還是維持我們的預測\n\n10\n00:03:20,891 --> 00:03:40,181\n但是呢我們在12月的時候明年的3月的時候明年的6月的時候呢我們大概都會做一些的調整好那你也一直就是在做滾動式的調整那你就是一直就是在面對的一個川普\n\n11\n00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:59,089\n不確定性那他的供需的一個決定是不是就是說會影響到就是說他當初在他川普競選總統的那個經貿的一個相關的一個政見這個是在你的那個就是報告裡頭也特別提出來\n\n12\n00:04:00,069 --> 00:04:15,040\n不管是貿易政策它就是降稅嘛那財務財政的一個政策就是減稅嘛那移民政策它就是黃賭嘛就是驅趕嘛那農業政策好這裡頭這是央行整理的\n\n13\n00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:35,402\n那好你現在講到就是說你持續的觀察國際的一個經濟的一個情勢就是說持續的追蹤跟關注可是顯然這個講的非常的空洞欸喔喔喔不是這個空洞呢是比較能夠接受的為什麼我還是在強調它是不確定性\n\n14\n00:04:35,842 --> 00:05:00,103\n他是不確定：對對因為齁如果我們當然我們也可以就說喔他的scenario事實上我們我跟委員報告我還本身也有scenario的分析只是說我們那個scenario的分析scenario的分析就是說各種情況的分析那這各種情況的分析喔這個這個不適合那只是能夠內參是啦是總裁其實我跟你講好我們很多的委員\n\n15\n00:05:03,466 --> 00:05:05,927\n美國新任總裁金龍、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員\n\n16\n00:05:25,916 --> 00:05:39,128\n那像這樣子這麼瘋狂的一個調整他的整個美國的一個經濟的政策的話事實上就是說我們大家都擔心擔心這一個震盪是不是對國內的經濟會產生很大的一個影響\n\n17\n00:05:42,492 --> 00:05:56,830\n這個是我們比較擔心的那甚至就是說其實就在之前拜登上台了以後過去的這一個四年中美的貿易戰雖然持續在進行可是這個是我們可以預估的\n\n18\n00:06:13,161 --> 00:06:30,093\n那在未來的4年你剛才講了很多很多那我們其實也都知道啦也都知道那我們在從國發會的一個經濟研究的期刊裡頭去特別看到了就是說他有研究到中美的那個貿易戰對\n\n19\n00:06:31,334 --> 00:06:41,418\n對於就是我們未來的一個經濟影響的一個分析跟評估包括就是說他的負面衝擊他講到他說少賺了新台幣大概226億那我們賣到美國的這個正面效應我們是賺了73億可是這一來一去我們的淨損我們還是缺了153億\n\n20\n00:06:57,563 --> 00:07:10,303\n可是在這裡頭這一個研究期刊裡頭我們看到了就是說我們對東協的增加的出口他其實是沒有把它算進去了那所以這個也是要提醒就是說\n\n21\n00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:31,249\n在未來那個東協的一個增加也是我們非常重要的一個參考的參考的一個那個那個就是標一個標的那美國跟中國一直就是我國出口的前兩大市場尤其是美中台三方那個緊密的這個產業供應鏈跟三角的貿易關係\n\n22\n00:07:34,670 --> 00:08:01,408\n那美中的貿易摩擦勢必就是會影響到我們會影響到我們所以就是說剛才特別就是拉斯堡委員有跟你提到了就是說我們的金市採購那算不算在我們的這個美中貿易裡頭算在美中的貿易裡頭那軟體呢其實有時候硬體那個軟體是比硬體來得還多的那軟體是不是也算呢軟體應該是屬於服務項目\n\n23\n00:08:04,690 --> 00:08:05,371\n那總裁再提醒你\n\n24\n00:08:32,594 --> 00:08:52,162\n最近的這個美債那個美債值那個利率一直在上升就是說它的價值變高了那應該是一起美國的關稅它會造成通膨那就是我們那個就是央行跟金融業有大量的一個美債那我在這裡請教就是說那個總裁對於這個台灣的金融系統一定會造成很大的一個影響那你書面的報告給我好不好\n\n25\n00:09:04,968 --> 00:09:08,651\n謝謝,我想那個時間先暫停一下,我想邀請我們的官務署,總裁你請回,謝謝\n\n26\n00:09:19,711 --> 00:09:40,848\n市長,我針對的就是說雙11這個中國電商在台灣做了很大的一個廣告然後也做了很大的一個促銷就是中國的一個電商那剛才事前我有跟你請教了幾個議題顯然你認為這一個問題影響對國內的影響是不大的如果我們用美國的這一個就是\n\n27\n00:09:49,234 --> 00:10:13,263\n一天是那個800塊的美元那就是說他們其實在民主黨裡頭也有議員提到了就是小兒的那個豁免錢的一個濫用那他們希望去修正就是小兒的包裹的一個標準那你在那裡講到了就是說我們一年有就是半年就是有6次嘛那我們是就是一次是2000塊\n\n28\n00:10:15,585 --> 00:10:40,163\n這個就是影響台灣的百工百業差異不大你是不是這樣的一個態度呢跟委員報告這個低價免稅的這種貨品這是FCO的相關的一個規定就世界貿易組織當然我知道那是不是有一些比較積極的一個做法因為這個實在是影響影響那個我們台灣的一個產業不管是\n\n29\n00:10:40,703 --> 00:10:41,164\n因為就是拼不過這個電商\n\n30\n00:10:56,499 --> 00:11:17,879\n那如果我們還存在的一個寬容的態度的話這個對我們台灣的一個產業是沒有達到一個保護的一個能量那我在這裡請教你你一天海關一天有多少包裹到台灣那其中有多少包裹是小件的包裹\n\n31\n00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:26,569\n我跟委員報告大概快遞貨物的話一天的量大概16萬到17萬對16萬到17萬是那所謂的低價免稅2000塊以下大概是將近會佔9成左右\n\n32\n00:11:33,899 --> 00:11:55,390\n五、九層喔。那你十件就是有一件是就是等於是說就我們在講的不管是蝦皮啦還是這些就是那個就是電商裡頭他這樣子零零散散打上進來的所以這個在報關的時候他有沒有提供一個完整的一個資訊可以告訴你說貨品的標示是什麼\n\n33\n00:11:56,330 --> 00:12:15,783\n當然這個標示準嗎?聽說很多報關是亂寫一通那你有沒有就是說試著去改善他這個這樣的一個機制那我們知道就是說他其實這個不管是對我們百工百業的一個照顧\n\n34\n00:12:16,904 --> 00:12:34,298\n還有最主要就是說對消費者消費者也是一個服務聽說他退會是非常困難的所以說提一些相關的書面的報告給本席好不好這個你要重視啊你要重視啊謝謝謝謝我們來會員委員謝謝署長接下來我們請盧明財委員發言\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3613\t28058\t總裁我想就針對的就是這個川普即將在明年的1月20號重新回到美國來那就是擔任美國的總統那你知道這個這一次就是在美國的憲法裡頭那個總統的任期的一個規定川普未來是不是可以再進行年任還是就是說他這一屆就是四年\n30359\t45961\t好像大家都認為就是說大概他這一任做完就結束了因為他的年齡的限制那他們的憲法是不是可以再持續下去這個我不曉得啦\n46522\t66941\t他不能再連任下去了就是這四年這個一個政治的狂人再加上一個馬斯克你知道馬斯克他即將擔任在美國政府裡頭他有一個部門這個部長叫做政府效率部\n67621\t93150\t政府效力部這個政府效力部做什麼事你知道嗎是總裁這個政府那個這個效力部他是講說這個這個部會就是將整個聯邦政府進行全面的財務跟績效的一個審計並且就重大的改革他將提出建議就是對重大的改革提出建議是是是一個狂人跟一個笑的\n94811\t112540\t你有沒有想到就是說在未來的這個4年那我們台灣即將處在一個什麼樣的一個位置面對的這個美國一個瘋狂的一個川普那跟一個馬斯克\n114594\t129352\t總裁講一講你的想法我的想法還是一貫的就是說他川普的他雖然他有這樣的一個政見已經出台了但是呢他是很不容易去預測他\n130794\t159213\t他的那個手段或策略這些所以也就是說在川普的任內是有高度的不確定性是有高度的不確定性就是說你自己也講得很清楚你即將面對新的一個挑戰這新的一個挑戰其實他充滿了不確定性那我們從就是在上週台晶宴他發布的最新的一個景氣的展望跟經濟的一個臆測\n160914\t176261\t即使它推估今年的經濟成長率上修到4.03那明年它是就是等於是下降下降到3.15那你剛才講了你就是預估GDP是3.08這些數字對不對\n179922\t194088\t這些所以我才會講所以我們在報告裡面我們會再講就是說因為有三大挑戰那這個三大挑戰一定會衝擊到台灣的經濟貿易所以我們的對策是現在我們應該我們還是維持我們的預測\n200891\t220181\t但是呢我們在12月的時候明年的3月的時候明年的6月的時候呢我們大概都會做一些的調整好那你也一直就是在做滾動式的調整那你就是一直就是在面對的一個川普\n222222\t239089\t不確定性那他的供需的一個決定是不是就是說會影響到就是說他當初在他川普競選總統的那個經貿的一個相關的一個政見這個是在你的那個就是報告裡頭也特別提出來\n240069\t255040\t不管是貿易政策它就是降稅嘛那財務財政的一個政策就是減稅嘛那移民政策它就是黃賭嘛就是驅趕嘛那農業政策好這裡頭這是央行整理的\n255700\t275402\t那好你現在講到就是說你持續的觀察國際的一個經濟的一個情勢就是說持續的追蹤跟關注可是顯然這個講的非常的空洞欸喔喔喔不是這個空洞呢是比較能夠接受的為什麼我還是在強調它是不確定性\n275842\t300103\t他是不確定：對對因為齁如果我們當然我們也可以就說喔他的scenario事實上我們我跟委員報告我還本身也有scenario的分析只是說我們那個scenario的分析scenario的分析就是說各種情況的分析那這各種情況的分析喔這個這個不適合那只是能夠內參是啦是總裁其實我跟你講好我們很多的委員\n303466\t305927\t美國新任總裁金龍、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員\n325916\t339128\t那像這樣子這麼瘋狂的一個調整他的整個美國的一個經濟的政策的話事實上就是說我們大家都擔心擔心這一個震盪是不是對國內的經濟會產生很大的一個影響\n342492\t356830\t這個是我們比較擔心的那甚至就是說其實就在之前拜登上台了以後過去的這一個四年中美的貿易戰雖然持續在進行可是這個是我們可以預估的\n357210\t372961\t對,對。\n373161\t390093\t那在未來的4年你剛才講了很多很多那我們其實也都知道啦也都知道那我們在從國發會的一個經濟研究的期刊裡頭去特別看到了就是說他有研究到中美的那個貿易戰對\n391334\t401418\t對於就是我們未來的一個經濟影響的一個分析跟評估包括就是說他的負面衝擊他講到他說少賺了新台幣大概226億那我們賣到美國的這個正面效應我們是賺了73億可是這一來一去我們的淨損我們還是缺了153億\n417563\t430303\t可是在這裡頭這一個研究期刊裡頭我們看到了就是說我們對東協的增加的出口他其實是沒有把它算進去了那所以這個也是要提醒就是說\n431840\t451249\t在未來那個東協的一個增加也是我們非常重要的一個參考的參考的一個那個那個就是標一個標的那美國跟中國一直就是我國出口的前兩大市場尤其是美中台三方那個緊密的這個產業供應鏈跟三角的貿易關係\n454670\t481408\t那美中的貿易摩擦勢必就是會影響到我們會影響到我們所以就是說剛才特別就是拉斯堡委員有跟你提到了就是說我們的金市採購那算不算在我們的這個美中貿易裡頭算在美中的貿易裡頭那軟體呢其實有時候硬體那個軟體是比硬體來得還多的那軟體是不是也算呢軟體應該是屬於服務項目\n484690\t485371\t那總裁再提醒你\n512594\t532162\t最近的這個美債那個美債值那個利率一直在上升就是說它的價值變高了那應該是一起美國的關稅它會造成通膨那就是我們那個就是央行跟金融業有大量的一個美債那我在這裡請教就是說那個總裁對於這個台灣的金融系統一定會造成很大的一個影響那你書面的報告給我好不好\n544968\t548651\t謝謝,我想那個時間先暫停一下,我想邀請我們的官務署,總裁你請回,謝謝\n559711\t580848\t市長,我針對的就是說雙11這個中國電商在台灣做了很大的一個廣告然後也做了很大的一個促銷就是中國的一個電商那剛才事前我有跟你請教了幾個議題顯然你認為這一個問題影響對國內的影響是不大的如果我們用美國的這一個就是\n589234\t613263\t一天是那個800塊的美元那就是說他們其實在民主黨裡頭也有議員提到了就是小兒的那個豁免錢的一個濫用那他們希望去修正就是小兒的包裹的一個標準那你在那裡講到了就是說我們一年有就是半年就是有6次嘛那我們是就是一次是2000塊\n615585\t640163\t這個就是影響台灣的百工百業差異不大你是不是這樣的一個態度呢跟委員報告這個低價免稅的這種貨品這是FCO的相關的一個規定就世界貿易組織當然我知道那是不是有一些比較積極的一個做法因為這個實在是影響影響那個我們台灣的一個產業不管是\n640703\t641164\t因為就是拼不過這個電商\n656499\t677879\t那如果我們還存在的一個寬容的態度的話這個對我們台灣的一個產業是沒有達到一個保護的一個能量那我在這裡請教你你一天海關一天有多少包裹到台灣那其中有多少包裹是小件的包裹\n678919\t686569\t我跟委員報告大概快遞貨物的話一天的量大概16萬到17萬對16萬到17萬是那所謂的低價免稅2000塊以下大概是將近會佔9成左右\n693899\t715390\t五、九層喔。那你十件就是有一件是就是等於是說就我們在講的不管是蝦皮啦還是這些就是那個就是電商裡頭他這樣子零零散散打上進來的所以這個在報關的時候他有沒有提供一個完整的一個資訊可以告訴你說貨品的標示是什麼\n716330\t735783\t當然 這個標示準嗎?聽說很多報關是亂寫一通那你有沒有就是說試著去改善他這個這樣的一個機制那我們知道就是說他其實這個不管是對我們百工百業的一個照顧\n736904\t754298\t還有最主要就是說對消費者消費者也是一個服務聽說他退會是非常困難的所以說提一些相關的書面的報告給本席好不好這個你要重視啊你要重視啊謝謝謝謝我們來會員委員謝謝署長接下來我們請盧明財委員發言\n","txt":"總裁我想就針對的就是這個川普即將在明年的1月20號重新回到美國來那就是擔任美國的總統那你知道這個這一次就是在美國的憲法裡頭那個總統的任期的一個規定川普未來是不是可以再進行年任還是就是說他這一屆就是四年\n好像大家都認為就是說大概他這一任做完就結束了因為他的年齡的限制那他們的憲法是不是可以再持續下去這個我不曉得啦\n他不能再連任下去了就是這四年這個一個政治的狂人再加上一個馬斯克你知道馬斯克他即將擔任在美國政府裡頭他有一個部門這個部長叫做政府效率部\n政府效力部這個政府效力部做什麼事你知道嗎是總裁這個政府那個這個效力部他是講說這個這個部會就是將整個聯邦政府進行全面的財務跟績效的一個審計並且就重大的改革他將提出建議就是對重大的改革提出建議是是是一個狂人跟一個笑的\n你有沒有想到就是說在未來的這個4年那我們台灣即將處在一個什麼樣的一個位置面對的這個美國一個瘋狂的一個川普那跟一個馬斯克\n總裁講一講你的想法我的想法還是一貫的就是說他川普的他雖然他有這樣的一個政見已經出台了但是呢他是很不容易去預測他\n他的那個手段或策略這些所以也就是說在川普的任內是有高度的不確定性是有高度的不確定性就是說你自己也講得很清楚你即將面對新的一個挑戰這新的一個挑戰其實他充滿了不確定性那我們從就是在上週台晶宴他發布的最新的一個景氣的展望跟經濟的一個臆測\n即使它推估今年的經濟成長率上修到4.03那明年它是就是等於是下降下降到3.15那你剛才講了你就是預估GDP是3.08這些數字對不對\n這些所以我才會講所以我們在報告裡面我們會再講就是說因為有三大挑戰那這個三大挑戰一定會衝擊到台灣的經濟貿易所以我們的對策是現在我們應該我們還是維持我們的預測\n但是呢我們在12月的時候明年的3月的時候明年的6月的時候呢我們大概都會做一些的調整好那你也一直就是在做滾動式的調整那你就是一直就是在面對的一個川普\n不確定性那他的供需的一個決定是不是就是說會影響到就是說他當初在他川普競選總統的那個經貿的一個相關的一個政見這個是在你的那個就是報告裡頭也特別提出來\n不管是貿易政策它就是降稅嘛那財務財政的一個政策就是減稅嘛那移民政策它就是黃賭嘛就是驅趕嘛那農業政策好這裡頭這是央行整理的\n那好你現在講到就是說你持續的觀察國際的一個經濟的一個情勢就是說持續的追蹤跟關注可是顯然這個講的非常的空洞欸喔喔喔不是這個空洞呢是比較能夠接受的為什麼我還是在強調它是不確定性\n他是不確定：對對因為齁如果我們當然我們也可以就說喔他的scenario事實上我們我跟委員報告我還本身也有scenario的分析只是說我們那個scenario的分析scenario的分析就是說各種情況的分析那這各種情況的分析喔這個這個不適合那只是能夠內參是啦是總裁其實我跟你講好我們很多的委員\n美國新任總裁金龍、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員\n那像這樣子這麼瘋狂的一個調整他的整個美國的一個經濟的政策的話事實上就是說我們大家都擔心擔心這一個震盪是不是對國內的經濟會產生很大的一個影響\n這個是我們比較擔心的那甚至就是說其實就在之前拜登上台了以後過去的這一個四年中美的貿易戰雖然持續在進行可是這個是我們可以預估的\n對,對。\n那在未來的4年你剛才講了很多很多那我們其實也都知道啦也都知道那我們在從國發會的一個經濟研究的期刊裡頭去特別看到了就是說他有研究到中美的那個貿易戰對\n對於就是我們未來的一個經濟影響的一個分析跟評估包括就是說他的負面衝擊他講到他說少賺了新台幣大概226億那我們賣到美國的這個正面效應我們是賺了73億可是這一來一去我們的淨損我們還是缺了153億\n可是在這裡頭這一個研究期刊裡頭我們看到了就是說我們對東協的增加的出口他其實是沒有把它算進去了那所以這個也是要提醒就是說\n在未來那個東協的一個增加也是我們非常重要的一個參考的參考的一個那個那個就是標一個標的那美國跟中國一直就是我國出口的前兩大市場尤其是美中台三方那個緊密的這個產業供應鏈跟三角的貿易關係\n那美中的貿易摩擦勢必就是會影響到我們會影響到我們所以就是說剛才特別就是拉斯堡委員有跟你提到了就是說我們的金市採購那算不算在我們的這個美中貿易裡頭算在美中的貿易裡頭那軟體呢其實有時候硬體那個軟體是比硬體來得還多的那軟體是不是也算呢軟體應該是屬於服務項目\n那總裁再提醒你\n最近的這個美債那個美債值那個利率一直在上升就是說它的價值變高了那應該是一起美國的關稅它會造成通膨那就是我們那個就是央行跟金融業有大量的一個美債那我在這裡請教就是說那個總裁對於這個台灣的金融系統一定會造成很大的一個影響那你書面的報告給我好不好\n謝謝,我想那個時間先暫停一下,我想邀請我們的官務署,總裁你請回,謝謝\n市長,我針對的就是說雙11這個中國電商在台灣做了很大的一個廣告然後也做了很大的一個促銷就是中國的一個電商那剛才事前我有跟你請教了幾個議題顯然你認為這一個問題影響對國內的影響是不大的如果我們用美國的這一個就是\n一天是那個800塊的美元那就是說他們其實在民主黨裡頭也有議員提到了就是小兒的那個豁免錢的一個濫用那他們希望去修正就是小兒的包裹的一個標準那你在那裡講到了就是說我們一年有就是半年就是有6次嘛那我們是就是一次是2000塊\n這個就是影響台灣的百工百業差異不大你是不是這樣的一個態度呢跟委員報告這個低價免稅的這種貨品這是FCO的相關的一個規定就世界貿易組織當然我知道那是不是有一些比較積極的一個做法因為這個實在是影響影響那個我們台灣的一個產業不管是\n因為就是拼不過這個電商\n那如果我們還存在的一個寬容的態度的話這個對我們台灣的一個產業是沒有達到一個保護的一個能量那我在這裡請教你你一天海關一天有多少包裹到台灣那其中有多少包裹是小件的包裹\n我跟委員報告大概快遞貨物的話一天的量大概16萬到17萬對16萬到17萬是那所謂的低價免稅2000塊以下大概是將近會佔9成左右\n五、九層喔。那你十件就是有一件是就是等於是說就我們在講的不管是蝦皮啦還是這些就是那個就是電商裡頭他這樣子零零散散打上進來的所以這個在報關的時候他有沒有提供一個完整的一個資訊可以告訴你說貨品的標示是什麼\n當然 這個標示準嗎?聽說很多報關是亂寫一通那你有沒有就是說試著去改善他這個這樣的一個機制那我們知道就是說他其實這個不管是對我們百工百業的一個照顧\n還有最主要就是說對消費者消費者也是一個服務聽說他退會是非常困難的所以說提一些相關的書面的報告給本席好不好這個你要重視啊你要重視啊謝謝謝謝我們來會員委員謝謝署長接下來我們請盧明財委員發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.613 --> 00:28.058\n總裁我想就針對的就是這個川普即將在明年的1月20號重新回到美國來那就是擔任美國的總統那你知道這個這一次就是在美國的憲法裡頭那個總統的任期的一個規定川普未來是不是可以再進行年任還是就是說他這一屆就是四年\n\n00:30.359 --> 00:45.961\n好像大家都認為就是說大概他這一任做完就結束了因為他的年齡的限制那他們的憲法是不是可以再持續下去這個我不曉得啦\n\n00:46.522 --> 01:06.941\n他不能再連任下去了就是這四年這個一個政治的狂人再加上一個馬斯克你知道馬斯克他即將擔任在美國政府裡頭他有一個部門這個部長叫做政府效率部\n\n01:07.621 --> 01:33.150\n政府效力部這個政府效力部做什麼事你知道嗎是總裁這個政府那個這個效力部他是講說這個這個部會就是將整個聯邦政府進行全面的財務跟績效的一個審計並且就重大的改革他將提出建議就是對重大的改革提出建議是是是一個狂人跟一個笑的\n\n01:34.811 --> 01:52.540\n你有沒有想到就是說在未來的這個4年那我們台灣即將處在一個什麼樣的一個位置面對的這個美國一個瘋狂的一個川普那跟一個馬斯克\n\n01:54.594 --> 02:09.352\n總裁講一講你的想法我的想法還是一貫的就是說他川普的他雖然他有這樣的一個政見已經出台了但是呢他是很不容易去預測他\n\n02:10.794 --> 02:39.213\n他的那個手段或策略這些所以也就是說在川普的任內是有高度的不確定性是有高度的不確定性就是說你自己也講得很清楚你即將面對新的一個挑戰這新的一個挑戰其實他充滿了不確定性那我們從就是在上週台晶宴他發布的最新的一個景氣的展望跟經濟的一個臆測\n\n02:40.914 --> 02:56.261\n即使它推估今年的經濟成長率上修到4.03那明年它是就是等於是下降下降到3.15那你剛才講了你就是預估GDP是3.08這些數字對不對\n\n02:59.922 --> 03:14.088\n這些所以我才會講所以我們在報告裡面我們會再講就是說因為有三大挑戰那這個三大挑戰一定會衝擊到台灣的經濟貿易所以我們的對策是現在我們應該我們還是維持我們的預測\n\n03:20.891 --> 03:40.181\n但是呢我們在12月的時候明年的3月的時候明年的6月的時候呢我們大概都會做一些的調整好那你也一直就是在做滾動式的調整那你就是一直就是在面對的一個川普\n\n03:42.222 --> 03:59.089\n不確定性那他的供需的一個決定是不是就是說會影響到就是說他當初在他川普競選總統的那個經貿的一個相關的一個政見這個是在你的那個就是報告裡頭也特別提出來\n\n04:00.069 --> 04:15.040\n不管是貿易政策它就是降稅嘛那財務財政的一個政策就是減稅嘛那移民政策它就是黃賭嘛就是驅趕嘛那農業政策好這裡頭這是央行整理的\n\n04:15.700 --> 04:35.402\n那好你現在講到就是說你持續的觀察國際的一個經濟的一個情勢就是說持續的追蹤跟關注可是顯然這個講的非常的空洞欸喔喔喔不是這個空洞呢是比較能夠接受的為什麼我還是在強調它是不確定性\n\n04:35.842 --> 05:00.103\n他是不確定：對對因為齁如果我們當然我們也可以就說喔他的scenario事實上我們我跟委員報告我還本身也有scenario的分析只是說我們那個scenario的分析scenario的分析就是說各種情況的分析那這各種情況的分析喔這個這個不適合那只是能夠內參是啦是總裁其實我跟你講好我們很多的委員\n\n05:03.466 --> 05:05.927\n美國新任總裁金龍、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員\n\n05:25.916 --> 05:39.128\n那像這樣子這麼瘋狂的一個調整他的整個美國的一個經濟的政策的話事實上就是說我們大家都擔心擔心這一個震盪是不是對國內的經濟會產生很大的一個影響\n\n05:42.492 --> 05:56.830\n這個是我們比較擔心的那甚至就是說其實就在之前拜登上台了以後過去的這一個四年中美的貿易戰雖然持續在進行可是這個是我們可以預估的\n\n06:13.161 --> 06:30.093\n那在未來的4年你剛才講了很多很多那我們其實也都知道啦也都知道那我們在從國發會的一個經濟研究的期刊裡頭去特別看到了就是說他有研究到中美的那個貿易戰對\n\n06:31.334 --> 06:41.418\n對於就是我們未來的一個經濟影響的一個分析跟評估包括就是說他的負面衝擊他講到他說少賺了新台幣大概226億那我們賣到美國的這個正面效應我們是賺了73億可是這一來一去我們的淨損我們還是缺了153億\n\n06:57.563 --> 07:10.303\n可是在這裡頭這一個研究期刊裡頭我們看到了就是說我們對東協的增加的出口他其實是沒有把它算進去了那所以這個也是要提醒就是說\n\n07:11.840 --> 07:31.249\n在未來那個東協的一個增加也是我們非常重要的一個參考的參考的一個那個那個就是標一個標的那美國跟中國一直就是我國出口的前兩大市場尤其是美中台三方那個緊密的這個產業供應鏈跟三角的貿易關係\n\n07:34.670 --> 08:01.408\n那美中的貿易摩擦勢必就是會影響到我們會影響到我們所以就是說剛才特別就是拉斯堡委員有跟你提到了就是說我們的金市採購那算不算在我們的這個美中貿易裡頭算在美中的貿易裡頭那軟體呢其實有時候硬體那個軟體是比硬體來得還多的那軟體是不是也算呢軟體應該是屬於服務項目\n\n08:04.690 --> 08:05.371\n那總裁再提醒你\n\n08:32.594 --> 08:52.162\n最近的這個美債那個美債值那個利率一直在上升就是說它的價值變高了那應該是一起美國的關稅它會造成通膨那就是我們那個就是央行跟金融業有大量的一個美債那我在這裡請教就是說那個總裁對於這個台灣的金融系統一定會造成很大的一個影響那你書面的報告給我好不好\n\n09:04.968 --> 09:08.651\n謝謝,我想那個時間先暫停一下,我想邀請我們的官務署,總裁你請回,謝謝\n\n09:19.711 --> 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