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\"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:15,090\n謝謝主席剛剛大家在休息的時間差點要喊萬老師要上課囉有請部長請曾部長委員好\n\n2\n00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:44,029\n部長早安我想今天這麼多的大學校長都在這裡但我們先來談一下這個0到6歲我們幼兒園的問題那從衛福部統計的這個性侵害的案件當中被害人跟兩遭關係交叉的統計那我們可以看到從108年到112年\n\n3\n00:00:46,971 --> 00:00:49,233\n在幼兒園發生所謂的性侵害的案件\n\n4\n00:01:06,697 --> 00:01:22,942\n比例其實很高這個還是有通報的案件數高達了有15件那我相信還有更多是沒有辦法通報或沒有辦法呈案的案件數目前都還沉在海底\n\n5\n00:01:23,862 --> 00:01:48,463\n我想這個部分其實也給我們一個非常大的警訊我們來探究一下幼兒園發生這些案件難以成案的一個關鍵的原因在於哪裡第一我相信0到6歲的孩子他們在語言表達的能力上可能會稍微比較有一些限制當父母親接受到孩子再回到家中之後\n\n6\n00:01:49,103 --> 00:01:51,825\n教育部所屬機教育部所屬機教育部所屬\n\n7\n00:02:14,713 --> 00:02:44,069\n就是臺北市郎屍性侵案的幼兒園的故事的翻版的時候自己的孩子是受害人其實爸爸媽媽都崩潰了好那第二個呢就是在證據蒐集上的一個困難那我們當然知道其實就像他所說的孩子是一天一天慢慢的像擠牙膏似的把他在學校的經過很片段不是連貫性的去闡述去描述\n\n8\n00:02:44,529 --> 00:02:44,770\n委員會委員會委員會委員會\n\n9\n00:02:54,591 --> 00:03:19,357\n再來即使有所謂的監視器但是仍有保存的一些問題或者是它剛好壞掉又或者是在學校的這些教保人員或者是老師他是有可以刪除證據的權利職權的時候其實我們蒐證更加的困難那我想幼兒園的安裝監視器其實是有它的一個必要性\n\n10\n00:03:20,537 --> 00:03:37,847\n昨天剛好是在全國幼教產業工會他們也特別表示不反對幼兒園要按全面安裝所謂的監視器但是後端的一些資料上的管理資料上的保存以及授權還有審查的部分可能會需要我們中央政府這邊\n\n11\n00:03:38,947 --> 00:04:02,603\n來做這樣子的一個統一的管理我想加裝的必要性除了是保護孩子以外最重要的就是當事件發生之後如果有所爭議不光是只有所謂的性侵害的一個事件以外對於所謂的不當管教這個其實安裝監視器對於所謂的老師也是可以保護他們的權益這個部分我想部長您怎麼看\n\n12\n00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:24,856\n我非常同意委員所說的監視器我們當然一方面就是幼兒的一個受教權益幼兒都是每一個家長家庭的一個寶他發生這些被侵犯的一些不幸我想我們都非常不捨也難過那以目前我們全國的幼兒園的這個監視器我們大概已經裝到53%\n\n13\n00:04:27,017 --> 00:04:27,057\n議員主席\n\n14\n00:04:46,807 --> 00:04:47,088\n中央也會給予補助\n\n15\n00:05:02,142 --> 00:05:04,443\n獲得授權及限制調閱權利及紀錄保存相關使用規範或調閱資料及紀錄規範可否提供三個月內?\n\n16\n00:05:21,208 --> 00:05:46,641\n趕快全面的保護孩子那也讓家長能夠安心因為很多的家長都不願意這個事情發生在自己身上對很多的爸爸媽媽來講也是一種保護對孩子更是對老師也是接下來我們來討論一下108課綱的一個現況我想108課綱利益良善但是配套不足是我對他的一個解釋\n\n17\n00:05:47,722 --> 00:06:14,879\n那我想在第一個會期其實就108課綱所帶來的在教育現場不管是學生端、老師端或者是家長的部分他們對於所謂的108課綱所帶來的一些衝擊目前都還是還是有很多不同的看法跟很多不同的爭議那我想這個部分我們先來探究一下這個老師跟學校是不是有足夠的時間跟資源可以來幫助孩子在自主學習的計畫當中\n\n18\n00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,883\n根據EDU資料統計,2024年和2023年學生在自主學習的部分佔最大的比例是第一個,我根本想不到主題\n\n19\n00:06:32,383 --> 00:06:45,718\n那48%的學生說學校安排的自主學習的時間不夠讓我能夠完成這個計畫第三個最前三名只不了解應該要如何撰寫這個計畫書\n\n20\n00:06:47,640 --> 00:07:14,421\n那雖然其實我們知道其實從這個108課剛開始有一些變動的時候老師高中的老師其實他們的有一些時數是有相對的稍微降低一點點大概平均是2到3堂降低2到3堂最主要的是希望能夠讓老師也有時間充裕的時間能夠輔導這些沒有方向的孩子在所謂的自主學習上的一個幫助跟輔助那他們也能夠有時間來準備課程\n\n21\n00:07:16,863 --> 00:07:27,390\n但是顯然我們看到這個數據上的一個調查,似乎老師的loading還是蠻重的,這個部分部長怎麼看?謝謝委員提醒,確實我們在108課綱我們本來就是有一個對這個學生的學期上有一些典範的改變\n\n22\n00:07:36,135 --> 00:07:55,051\n我們過去的教學都是比較是單向性然後大概學生只是配合老師的一些教學進度我們當然也希望說學生在自主學習裡面他能夠有一些時段能夠自己選擇他自己在學科或者在許多興趣專長上發展這個又衍生到第二個問題因為今天時間的關係\n\n23\n00:07:58,194 --> 00:08:13,858\n我們在這個部分陳委員剛才所提的在許多施肢人力我們減少老師的一個行政工作我們事實上也投入了1400位然後的老師增加希望能夠協助第一線上能夠降低老師的許多的行政壓力\n\n24\n00:08:15,979 --> 00:08:42,167\n然後這時候老師就有更多的時間可以來協助學生我像這個是相對的我們是往這個方向在努力在前進當中那第二個部分我想要問的就是所謂的多元選客到底有沒有多元到底多元選客有沒有多元這件事情其實我相信有很多的這個現場第一線的老師也特別來跟我們反映甚至學生跟家長也特別跟我反映他說有一些多元選客\n\n25\n00:08:44,386 --> 00:08:59,284\n會拿來補課因為政課可能就上不完了所以其實多元選課的部分的時間可能會拿來做補課或者是多元選課的科目是不有趣的這個也是我們現場收到的一些訊息\n\n26\n00:09:00,245 --> 00:09:21,907\n那我想這裡有一個圖表比較關鍵的部分我們來看一下這也是EDU在1329份的一個調查當中449位他們說他選不到自己喜歡的課程456位的學生他說這個課程真的沒有辦法多元所以也沒辦法找到自己有興趣的一個主題跟這樣子的一個方式所以選課的\n\n27\n00:09:23,348 --> 00:09:38,519\n多元性我相信可能有68%的學生還是認為他還是過於狹隘啦那其實這個部分我們請教一下齁就是多元選課這個部分目前教育部收到了現場的狀況大概是怎麼樣\n\n28\n00:09:39,099 --> 00:10:01,728\n我想委員剛才所提的都有少數的學校會有這樣一個問題我們來精進但是也利用這個機會我要拜託我們所有的這些大學校長因為當我們在人才培育在典範改變的時候怎麼樣善用這個大學校長大學的資源我們知道在座的很多的大學校長他是支持的\n\n29\n00:10:01,988 --> 00:10:03,969\n部長講到重點,那也要大學校長願意同意他們的時數,他們的這個應該算是終點費,可不可以支撐他們去學校多元學費?可以嗎?願意的舉手好了\n\n30\n00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:40,765\n我知道我們有很多大學他是鼓勵老師的專長到高中去開課那甚至他們會納入這個老師的基本授課時數還會補充補助老師的交通費我想因為本來我們高中的老師他本來是以學科來培養當我們希望有學生有更多元的一些選擇\n\n31\n00:10:42,205 --> 00:10:58,275\n的一些機會的時候所以課程的終點費跟多元選課我們跟著能夠一起這個部分我們事實上一直在努力而且大學有許多的老師他們默默在協助高中職學生的一些多元的一些發展是\n\n32\n00:10:58,715 --> 00:11:06,004\n好因為等一下主席可能30秒就會站起來好我們今天帶主席不知道30秒會不會站起來時間有限最後一題我來問一下下就是關於學習歷程檔案的這個部分那學習歷程檔案一直以來當然我們其實也討論過很多很多次\n\n33\n00:11:16,898 --> 00:11:41,433\n上次其實部長跟葉秉成次長也特別來我的辦公室也特別有特別提到這個學習歷程檔案的部分那我們必須說這個是訓練學生非常好的一個方式把自己的學習歷程不管是從高一、高二一直到了高三但是目前我們看到其實很多的學生他們比較擔憂的是高一、高二跟高三其實他們的學習歷程檔案跟他們的性向其實是會完全南轅北轍\n\n34\n00:11:45,875 --> 00:12:05,346\n接著下來可能要選擇大學的一個科系可能也跟他原本的學習歷程檔案其實也都完全不相關雖然大學教授可能會覺得說沒有關係就算你的學習歷程檔案跟我的科系其實沒有相關但我們還是依舊會看還是希望能夠把這個學習歷程檔案做得更加的完整\n\n35\n00:12:05,806 --> 00:12:27,163\n好當學習歷程做得更加的完成的時候其實就很多所謂的現場的歪風就出來了關學習歷程檔案你只要打上去所有的文章出現的時候中間可能就會夾帶一行叫做廣告學習歷程檔案不知道怎麼做嗎請點陳阿姨教你點進去就是補習班部長這個部分我們怎麼解套啊\n\n36\n00:12:28,624 --> 00:12:46,609\n我想確實這個來自於民間的許多的這個商業行為我想我們來努力因為就我們高中端的老師的提醒大概會用到補習班的不到2%所以其實他是非常低位那以我所理解的以臺大\n\n37\n00:12:47,469 --> 00:13:13,647\n我現在葉次長不到2%對不對你講到2%又剛剛好接著下來我要扣的主題上次其實葉秉成這個次長有特別講到他希望所謂的多元選才我們希望真的不要只有2%他希望再往更高的方向多元選才其實看的就是學習歷程檔案但是現在我們光是數字統計下來他不是2%耶糟糕了他只有1.5%耶他的門是這麼的窄\n\n38\n00:13:16,309 --> 00:13:44,184\n但是希望用學習歷程檔案多元選材的學生有將近30%以上喔沒有沒有我是剛好你講到的2%因為時間有限我先點出我要講的這些問題喔我是說多元選材看學習歷程檔案的門檻或者是條件我們是不是可以再放寬一點點讓更多想要因為學習歷程做得很好的學生可以侵入到他們理想的科系這沒有問題我們來研議看怎麼樣讓學生有真正能夠\n\n39\n00:13:45,365 --> 00:13:46,907\n二、審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立教育部所屬機\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6500\t15090\t謝謝主席剛剛大家在休息的時間差點要喊萬老師要上課囉有請部長請曾部長委員好\n25592\t44029\t部長早安我想今天這麼多的大學校長都在這裡但我們先來談一下這個0到6歲我們幼兒園的問題那從衛福部統計的這個性侵害的案件當中被害人跟兩遭關係交叉的統計那我們可以看到從108年到112年\n46971\t49233\t在幼兒園發生所謂的性侵害的案件\n66697\t82942\t比例其實很高這個還是有通報的案件數高達了有15件那我相信還有更多是沒有辦法通報或沒有辦法呈案的案件數目前都還沉在海底\n83862\t108463\t我想這個部分其實也給我們一個非常大的警訊我們來探究一下幼兒園發生這些案件難以成案的一個關鍵的原因在於哪裡第一我相信0到6歲的孩子他們在語言表達的能力上可能會稍微比較有一些限制當父母親接受到孩子再回到家中之後\n109103\t111825\t教育部所屬機教育部所屬機教育部所屬\n134713\t164069\t就是臺北市郎屍性侵案的幼兒園的故事的翻版的時候自己的孩子是受害人其實爸爸媽媽都崩潰了好那第二個呢就是在證據蒐集上的一個困難那我們當然知道其實就像他所說的孩子是一天一天慢慢的像擠牙膏似的把他在學校的經過很片段不是連貫性的去闡述去描述\n164529\t164770\t委員會委員會委員會委員會\n174591\t199357\t再來即使有所謂的監視器但是仍有保存的一些問題或者是它剛好壞掉又或者是在學校的這些教保人員或者是老師他是有可以刪除證據的權利職權的時候其實我們蒐證更加的困難那我想幼兒園的安裝監視器其實是有它的一個必要性\n200537\t217847\t昨天剛好是在全國幼教產業工會他們也特別表示不反對幼兒園要按全面安裝所謂的監視器但是後端的一些資料上的管理資料上的保存以及授權還有審查的部分可能會需要我們中央政府這邊\n218947\t242603\t來做這樣子的一個統一的管理我想加裝的必要性除了是保護孩子以外最重要的就是當事件發生之後如果有所爭議不光是只有所謂的性侵害的一個事件以外對於所謂的不當管教這個其實安裝監視器對於所謂的老師也是可以保護他們的權益這個部分我想部長您怎麼看\n243670\t264856\t我非常同意委員所說的監視器我們當然一方面就是幼兒的一個受教權益幼兒都是每一個家長家庭的一個寶他發生這些被侵犯的一些不幸我想我們都非常不捨也難過那以目前我們全國的幼兒園的這個監視器我們大概已經裝到53%\n267017\t267057\t議員主席\n286807\t287088\t中央也會給予補助\n302142\t304443\t獲得授權及限制調閱權利及紀錄保存相關使用規範或調閱資料及紀錄規範可否提供三個月內?\n321208\t346641\t趕快全面的保護孩子那也讓家長能夠安心因為很多的家長都不願意這個事情發生在自己身上對很多的爸爸媽媽來講也是一種保護對孩子更是對老師也是接下來我們來討論一下108課綱的一個現況我想108課綱利益良善但是配套不足是我對他的一個解釋\n347722\t374879\t那我想在第一個會期其實就108課綱所帶來的在教育現場不管是學生端、老師端或者是家長的部分他們對於所謂的108課綱所帶來的一些衝擊目前都還是還是有很多不同的看法跟很多不同的爭議那我想這個部分我們先來探究一下這個老師跟學校是不是有足夠的時間跟資源可以來幫助孩子在自主學習的計畫當中\n376920\t378883\t根據EDU資料統計,2024年和2023年學生在自主學習的部分佔最大的比例是第一個,我根本想不到主題\n392383\t405718\t那48%的學生說學校安排的自主學習的時間不夠讓我能夠完成這個計畫第三個最前三名只不了解應該要如何撰寫這個計畫書\n407640\t434421\t那雖然其實我們知道其實從這個108課剛開始有一些變動的時候老師高中的老師其實他們的有一些時數是有相對的稍微降低一點點大概平均是2到3堂降低2到3堂最主要的是希望能夠讓老師也有時間充裕的時間能夠輔導這些沒有方向的孩子在所謂的自主學習上的一個幫助跟輔助那他們也能夠有時間來準備課程\n436863\t447390\t但是顯然我們看到這個數據上的一個調查,似乎老師的loading還是蠻重的,這個部分部長怎麼看?謝謝委員提醒,確實我們在108課綱我們本來就是有一個對這個學生的學期上有一些典範的改變\n456135\t475051\t我們過去的教學都是比較是單向性然後大概學生只是配合老師的一些教學進度我們當然也希望說學生在自主學習裡面他能夠有一些時段能夠自己選擇他自己在學科或者在許多興趣專長上發展這個又衍生到第二個問題因為今天時間的關係\n478194\t493858\t我們在這個部分陳委員剛才所提的在許多施肢人力我們減少老師的一個行政工作我們事實上也投入了1400位然後的老師增加希望能夠協助第一線上能夠降低老師的許多的行政壓力\n495979\t522167\t然後這時候老師就有更多的時間可以來協助學生我像這個是相對的我們是往這個方向在努力在前進當中那第二個部分我想要問的就是所謂的多元選客到底有沒有多元到底多元選客有沒有多元這件事情其實我相信有很多的這個現場第一線的老師也特別來跟我們反映甚至學生跟家長也特別跟我反映他說有一些多元選客\n524386\t539284\t會拿來補課因為政課可能就上不完了所以其實多元選課的部分的時間可能會拿來做補課或者是多元選課的科目是不有趣的這個也是我們現場收到的一些訊息\n540245\t561907\t那我想這裡有一個圖表比較關鍵的部分我們來看一下這也是EDU在1329份的一個調查當中449位他們說他選不到自己喜歡的課程456位的學生他說這個課程真的沒有辦法多元所以也沒辦法找到自己有興趣的一個主題跟這樣子的一個方式所以選課的\n563348\t578519\t多元性我相信可能有68%的學生還是認為他還是過於狹隘啦那其實這個部分我們請教一下齁就是多元選課這個部分目前教育部收到了現場的狀況大概是怎麼樣\n579099\t601728\t我想委員剛才所提的都有少數的學校會有這樣一個問題我們來精進但是也利用這個機會我要拜託我們所有的這些大學校長因為當我們在人才培育在典範改變的時候怎麼樣善用這個大學校長大學的資源我們知道在座的很多的大學校長他是支持的\n601988\t603969\t部長講到重點,那也要大學校長願意同意他們的時數,他們的這個應該算是終點費,可不可以支撐他們去學校多元學費?可以嗎?願意的舉手好了\n618920\t640765\t我知道我們有很多大學他是鼓勵老師的專長到高中去開課那甚至他們會納入這個老師的基本授課時數還會補充補助老師的交通費我想因為本來我們高中的老師他本來是以學科來培養當我們希望有學生有更多元的一些選擇\n642205\t658275\t的一些機會的時候所以課程的終點費跟多元選課我們跟著能夠一起這個部分我們事實上一直在努力而且大學有許多的老師他們默默在協助高中職學生的一些多元的一些發展是\n658715\t666004\t好 因為等一下主席可能30秒就會站起來好 我們今天帶主席不知道30秒會不會站起來時間有限 最後一題我來問一下下就是關於學習歷程檔案的這個部分那學習歷程檔案一直以來當然我們其實也討論過很多很多次\n676898\t701433\t上次其實部長跟葉秉成次長也特別來我的辦公室也特別有特別提到這個學習歷程檔案的部分那我們必須說這個是訓練學生非常好的一個方式把自己的學習歷程不管是從高一、高二一直到了高三但是目前我們看到其實很多的學生他們比較擔憂的是高一、高二跟高三其實他們的學習歷程檔案跟他們的性向其實是會完全南轅北轍\n705875\t725346\t接著下來可能要選擇大學的一個科系可能也跟他原本的學習歷程檔案其實也都完全不相關雖然大學教授可能會覺得說沒有關係就算你的學習歷程檔案跟我的科系其實沒有相關但我們還是依舊會看還是希望能夠把這個學習歷程檔案做得更加的完整\n725806\t747163\t好當學習歷程做得更加的完成的時候其實就很多所謂的現場的歪風就出來了關學習歷程檔案你只要打上去所有的文章出現的時候中間可能就會夾帶一行叫做廣告學習歷程檔案不知道怎麼做嗎請點陳阿姨教你點進去就是補習班部長這個部分我們怎麼解套啊\n748624\t766609\t我想確實這個來自於民間的許多的這個商業行為我想我們來努力因為就我們高中端的老師的提醒大概會用到補習班的不到2%所以其實他是非常低位那以我所理解的以臺大\n767469\t793647\t我現在葉次長不到2%對不對你講到2%又剛剛好接著下來我要扣的主題上次其實葉秉成這個次長有特別講到他希望所謂的多元選才我們希望真的不要只有2%他希望再往更高的方向多元選才其實看的就是學習歷程檔案但是現在我們光是數字統計下來他不是2%耶糟糕了他只有1.5%耶他的門是這麼的窄\n796309\t824184\t但是希望用學習歷程檔案多元選材的學生有將近30%以上喔沒有沒有我是剛好你講到的2%因為時間有限我先點出我要講的這些問題喔我是說多元選材看學習歷程檔案的門檻或者是條件我們是不是可以再放寬一點點讓更多想要因為學習歷程做得很好的學生可以侵入到他們理想的科系這沒有問題我們來研議看怎麼樣讓學生有真正能夠\n825365\t826907\t二、審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立教育部所屬機\n","txt":"謝謝主席剛剛大家在休息的時間差點要喊萬老師要上課囉有請部長請曾部長委員好\n部長早安我想今天這麼多的大學校長都在這裡但我們先來談一下這個0到6歲我們幼兒園的問題那從衛福部統計的這個性侵害的案件當中被害人跟兩遭關係交叉的統計那我們可以看到從108年到112年\n在幼兒園發生所謂的性侵害的案件\n比例其實很高這個還是有通報的案件數高達了有15件那我相信還有更多是沒有辦法通報或沒有辦法呈案的案件數目前都還沉在海底\n我想這個部分其實也給我們一個非常大的警訊我們來探究一下幼兒園發生這些案件難以成案的一個關鍵的原因在於哪裡第一我相信0到6歲的孩子他們在語言表達的能力上可能會稍微比較有一些限制當父母親接受到孩子再回到家中之後\n教育部所屬機教育部所屬機教育部所屬\n就是臺北市郎屍性侵案的幼兒園的故事的翻版的時候自己的孩子是受害人其實爸爸媽媽都崩潰了好那第二個呢就是在證據蒐集上的一個困難那我們當然知道其實就像他所說的孩子是一天一天慢慢的像擠牙膏似的把他在學校的經過很片段不是連貫性的去闡述去描述\n委員會委員會委員會委員會\n再來即使有所謂的監視器但是仍有保存的一些問題或者是它剛好壞掉又或者是在學校的這些教保人員或者是老師他是有可以刪除證據的權利職權的時候其實我們蒐證更加的困難那我想幼兒園的安裝監視器其實是有它的一個必要性\n昨天剛好是在全國幼教產業工會他們也特別表示不反對幼兒園要按全面安裝所謂的監視器但是後端的一些資料上的管理資料上的保存以及授權還有審查的部分可能會需要我們中央政府這邊\n來做這樣子的一個統一的管理我想加裝的必要性除了是保護孩子以外最重要的就是當事件發生之後如果有所爭議不光是只有所謂的性侵害的一個事件以外對於所謂的不當管教這個其實安裝監視器對於所謂的老師也是可以保護他們的權益這個部分我想部長您怎麼看\n我非常同意委員所說的監視器我們當然一方面就是幼兒的一個受教權益幼兒都是每一個家長家庭的一個寶他發生這些被侵犯的一些不幸我想我們都非常不捨也難過那以目前我們全國的幼兒園的這個監視器我們大概已經裝到53%\n議員主席\n中央也會給予補助\n獲得授權及限制調閱權利及紀錄保存相關使用規範或調閱資料及紀錄規範可否提供三個月內?\n趕快全面的保護孩子那也讓家長能夠安心因為很多的家長都不願意這個事情發生在自己身上對很多的爸爸媽媽來講也是一種保護對孩子更是對老師也是接下來我們來討論一下108課綱的一個現況我想108課綱利益良善但是配套不足是我對他的一個解釋\n那我想在第一個會期其實就108課綱所帶來的在教育現場不管是學生端、老師端或者是家長的部分他們對於所謂的108課綱所帶來的一些衝擊目前都還是還是有很多不同的看法跟很多不同的爭議那我想這個部分我們先來探究一下這個老師跟學校是不是有足夠的時間跟資源可以來幫助孩子在自主學習的計畫當中\n根據EDU資料統計,2024年和2023年學生在自主學習的部分佔最大的比例是第一個,我根本想不到主題\n那48%的學生說學校安排的自主學習的時間不夠讓我能夠完成這個計畫第三個最前三名只不了解應該要如何撰寫這個計畫書\n那雖然其實我們知道其實從這個108課剛開始有一些變動的時候老師高中的老師其實他們的有一些時數是有相對的稍微降低一點點大概平均是2到3堂降低2到3堂最主要的是希望能夠讓老師也有時間充裕的時間能夠輔導這些沒有方向的孩子在所謂的自主學習上的一個幫助跟輔助那他們也能夠有時間來準備課程\n但是顯然我們看到這個數據上的一個調查,似乎老師的loading還是蠻重的,這個部分部長怎麼看?謝謝委員提醒,確實我們在108課綱我們本來就是有一個對這個學生的學期上有一些典範的改變\n我們過去的教學都是比較是單向性然後大概學生只是配合老師的一些教學進度我們當然也希望說學生在自主學習裡面他能夠有一些時段能夠自己選擇他自己在學科或者在許多興趣專長上發展這個又衍生到第二個問題因為今天時間的關係\n我們在這個部分陳委員剛才所提的在許多施肢人力我們減少老師的一個行政工作我們事實上也投入了1400位然後的老師增加希望能夠協助第一線上能夠降低老師的許多的行政壓力\n然後這時候老師就有更多的時間可以來協助學生我像這個是相對的我們是往這個方向在努力在前進當中那第二個部分我想要問的就是所謂的多元選客到底有沒有多元到底多元選客有沒有多元這件事情其實我相信有很多的這個現場第一線的老師也特別來跟我們反映甚至學生跟家長也特別跟我反映他說有一些多元選客\n會拿來補課因為政課可能就上不完了所以其實多元選課的部分的時間可能會拿來做補課或者是多元選課的科目是不有趣的這個也是我們現場收到的一些訊息\n那我想這裡有一個圖表比較關鍵的部分我們來看一下這也是EDU在1329份的一個調查當中449位他們說他選不到自己喜歡的課程456位的學生他說這個課程真的沒有辦法多元所以也沒辦法找到自己有興趣的一個主題跟這樣子的一個方式所以選課的\n多元性我相信可能有68%的學生還是認為他還是過於狹隘啦那其實這個部分我們請教一下齁就是多元選課這個部分目前教育部收到了現場的狀況大概是怎麼樣\n我想委員剛才所提的都有少數的學校會有這樣一個問題我們來精進但是也利用這個機會我要拜託我們所有的這些大學校長因為當我們在人才培育在典範改變的時候怎麼樣善用這個大學校長大學的資源我們知道在座的很多的大學校長他是支持的\n部長講到重點,那也要大學校長願意同意他們的時數,他們的這個應該算是終點費,可不可以支撐他們去學校多元學費?可以嗎?願意的舉手好了\n我知道我們有很多大學他是鼓勵老師的專長到高中去開課那甚至他們會納入這個老師的基本授課時數還會補充補助老師的交通費我想因為本來我們高中的老師他本來是以學科來培養當我們希望有學生有更多元的一些選擇\n的一些機會的時候所以課程的終點費跟多元選課我們跟著能夠一起這個部分我們事實上一直在努力而且大學有許多的老師他們默默在協助高中職學生的一些多元的一些發展是\n好 因為等一下主席可能30秒就會站起來好 我們今天帶主席不知道30秒會不會站起來時間有限 最後一題我來問一下下就是關於學習歷程檔案的這個部分那學習歷程檔案一直以來當然我們其實也討論過很多很多次\n上次其實部長跟葉秉成次長也特別來我的辦公室也特別有特別提到這個學習歷程檔案的部分那我們必須說這個是訓練學生非常好的一個方式把自己的學習歷程不管是從高一、高二一直到了高三但是目前我們看到其實很多的學生他們比較擔憂的是高一、高二跟高三其實他們的學習歷程檔案跟他們的性向其實是會完全南轅北轍\n接著下來可能要選擇大學的一個科系可能也跟他原本的學習歷程檔案其實也都完全不相關雖然大學教授可能會覺得說沒有關係就算你的學習歷程檔案跟我的科系其實沒有相關但我們還是依舊會看還是希望能夠把這個學習歷程檔案做得更加的完整\n好當學習歷程做得更加的完成的時候其實就很多所謂的現場的歪風就出來了關學習歷程檔案你只要打上去所有的文章出現的時候中間可能就會夾帶一行叫做廣告學習歷程檔案不知道怎麼做嗎請點陳阿姨教你點進去就是補習班部長這個部分我們怎麼解套啊\n我想確實這個來自於民間的許多的這個商業行為我想我們來努力因為就我們高中端的老師的提醒大概會用到補習班的不到2%所以其實他是非常低位那以我所理解的以臺大\n我現在葉次長不到2%對不對你講到2%又剛剛好接著下來我要扣的主題上次其實葉秉成這個次長有特別講到他希望所謂的多元選才我們希望真的不要只有2%他希望再往更高的方向多元選才其實看的就是學習歷程檔案但是現在我們光是數字統計下來他不是2%耶糟糕了他只有1.5%耶他的門是這麼的窄\n但是希望用學習歷程檔案多元選材的學生有將近30%以上喔沒有沒有我是剛好你講到的2%因為時間有限我先點出我要講的這些問題喔我是說多元選材看學習歷程檔案的門檻或者是條件我們是不是可以再放寬一點點讓更多想要因為學習歷程做得很好的學生可以侵入到他們理想的科系這沒有問題我們來研議看怎麼樣讓學生有真正能夠\n二、審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立教育部所屬機\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.500 --> 00:15.090\n謝謝主席剛剛大家在休息的時間差點要喊萬老師要上課囉有請部長請曾部長委員好\n\n00:25.592 --> 00:44.029\n部長早安我想今天這麼多的大學校長都在這裡但我們先來談一下這個0到6歲我們幼兒園的問題那從衛福部統計的這個性侵害的案件當中被害人跟兩遭關係交叉的統計那我們可以看到從108年到112年\n\n00:46.971 --> 00:49.233\n在幼兒園發生所謂的性侵害的案件\n\n01:06.697 --> 01:22.942\n比例其實很高這個還是有通報的案件數高達了有15件那我相信還有更多是沒有辦法通報或沒有辦法呈案的案件數目前都還沉在海底\n\n01:23.862 --> 01:48.463\n我想這個部分其實也給我們一個非常大的警訊我們來探究一下幼兒園發生這些案件難以成案的一個關鍵的原因在於哪裡第一我相信0到6歲的孩子他們在語言表達的能力上可能會稍微比較有一些限制當父母親接受到孩子再回到家中之後\n\n01:49.103 --> 01:51.825\n教育部所屬機教育部所屬機教育部所屬\n\n02:14.713 --> 02:44.069\n就是臺北市郎屍性侵案的幼兒園的故事的翻版的時候自己的孩子是受害人其實爸爸媽媽都崩潰了好那第二個呢就是在證據蒐集上的一個困難那我們當然知道其實就像他所說的孩子是一天一天慢慢的像擠牙膏似的把他在學校的經過很片段不是連貫性的去闡述去描述\n\n02:44.529 --> 02:44.770\n委員會委員會委員會委員會\n\n02:54.591 --> 03:19.357\n再來即使有所謂的監視器但是仍有保存的一些問題或者是它剛好壞掉又或者是在學校的這些教保人員或者是老師他是有可以刪除證據的權利職權的時候其實我們蒐證更加的困難那我想幼兒園的安裝監視器其實是有它的一個必要性\n\n03:20.537 --> 03:37.847\n昨天剛好是在全國幼教產業工會他們也特別表示不反對幼兒園要按全面安裝所謂的監視器但是後端的一些資料上的管理資料上的保存以及授權還有審查的部分可能會需要我們中央政府這邊\n\n03:38.947 --> 04:02.603\n來做這樣子的一個統一的管理我想加裝的必要性除了是保護孩子以外最重要的就是當事件發生之後如果有所爭議不光是只有所謂的性侵害的一個事件以外對於所謂的不當管教這個其實安裝監視器對於所謂的老師也是可以保護他們的權益這個部分我想部長您怎麼看\n\n04:03.670 --> 04:24.856\n我非常同意委員所說的監視器我們當然一方面就是幼兒的一個受教權益幼兒都是每一個家長家庭的一個寶他發生這些被侵犯的一些不幸我想我們都非常不捨也難過那以目前我們全國的幼兒園的這個監視器我們大概已經裝到53%\n\n04:27.017 --> 04:27.057\n議員主席\n\n04:46.807 --> 04:47.088\n中央也會給予補助\n\n05:02.142 --> 05:04.443\n獲得授權及限制調閱權利及紀錄保存相關使用規範或調閱資料及紀錄規範可否提供三個月內?\n\n05:21.208 --> 05:46.641\n趕快全面的保護孩子那也讓家長能夠安心因為很多的家長都不願意這個事情發生在自己身上對很多的爸爸媽媽來講也是一種保護對孩子更是對老師也是接下來我們來討論一下108課綱的一個現況我想108課綱利益良善但是配套不足是我對他的一個解釋\n\n05:47.722 --> 06:14.879\n那我想在第一個會期其實就108課綱所帶來的在教育現場不管是學生端、老師端或者是家長的部分他們對於所謂的108課綱所帶來的一些衝擊目前都還是還是有很多不同的看法跟很多不同的爭議那我想這個部分我們先來探究一下這個老師跟學校是不是有足夠的時間跟資源可以來幫助孩子在自主學習的計畫當中\n\n06:16.920 --> 06:18.883\n根據EDU資料統計,2024年和2023年學生在自主學習的部分佔最大的比例是第一個,我根本想不到主題\n\n06:32.383 --> 06:45.718\n那48%的學生說學校安排的自主學習的時間不夠讓我能夠完成這個計畫第三個最前三名只不了解應該要如何撰寫這個計畫書\n\n06:47.640 --> 07:14.421\n那雖然其實我們知道其實從這個108課剛開始有一些變動的時候老師高中的老師其實他們的有一些時數是有相對的稍微降低一點點大概平均是2到3堂降低2到3堂最主要的是希望能夠讓老師也有時間充裕的時間能夠輔導這些沒有方向的孩子在所謂的自主學習上的一個幫助跟輔助那他們也能夠有時間來準備課程\n\n07:16.863 --> 07:27.390\n但是顯然我們看到這個數據上的一個調查,似乎老師的loading還是蠻重的,這個部分部長怎麼看?謝謝委員提醒,確實我們在108課綱我們本來就是有一個對這個學生的學期上有一些典範的改變\n\n07:36.135 --> 07:55.051\n我們過去的教學都是比較是單向性然後大概學生只是配合老師的一些教學進度我們當然也希望說學生在自主學習裡面他能夠有一些時段能夠自己選擇他自己在學科或者在許多興趣專長上發展這個又衍生到第二個問題因為今天時間的關係\n\n07:58.194 --> 08:13.858\n我們在這個部分陳委員剛才所提的在許多施肢人力我們減少老師的一個行政工作我們事實上也投入了1400位然後的老師增加希望能夠協助第一線上能夠降低老師的許多的行政壓力\n\n08:15.979 --> 08:42.167\n然後這時候老師就有更多的時間可以來協助學生我像這個是相對的我們是往這個方向在努力在前進當中那第二個部分我想要問的就是所謂的多元選客到底有沒有多元到底多元選客有沒有多元這件事情其實我相信有很多的這個現場第一線的老師也特別來跟我們反映甚至學生跟家長也特別跟我反映他說有一些多元選客\n\n08:44.386 --> 08:59.284\n會拿來補課因為政課可能就上不完了所以其實多元選課的部分的時間可能會拿來做補課或者是多元選課的科目是不有趣的這個也是我們現場收到的一些訊息\n\n09:00.245 --> 09:21.907\n那我想這裡有一個圖表比較關鍵的部分我們來看一下這也是EDU在1329份的一個調查當中449位他們說他選不到自己喜歡的課程456位的學生他說這個課程真的沒有辦法多元所以也沒辦法找到自己有興趣的一個主題跟這樣子的一個方式所以選課的\n\n09:23.348 --> 09:38.519\n多元性我相信可能有68%的學生還是認為他還是過於狹隘啦那其實這個部分我們請教一下齁就是多元選課這個部分目前教育部收到了現場的狀況大概是怎麼樣\n\n09:39.099 --> 10:01.728\n我想委員剛才所提的都有少數的學校會有這樣一個問題我們來精進但是也利用這個機會我要拜託我們所有的這些大學校長因為當我們在人才培育在典範改變的時候怎麼樣善用這個大學校長大學的資源我們知道在座的很多的大學校長他是支持的\n\n10:01.988 --> 10:03.969\n部長講到重點,那也要大學校長願意同意他們的時數,他們的這個應該算是終點費,可不可以支撐他們去學校多元學費?可以嗎?願意的舉手好了\n\n10:18.920 --> 10:40.765\n我知道我們有很多大學他是鼓勵老師的專長到高中去開課那甚至他們會納入這個老師的基本授課時數還會補充補助老師的交通費我想因為本來我們高中的老師他本來是以學科來培養當我們希望有學生有更多元的一些選擇\n\n10:42.205 --> 10:58.275\n的一些機會的時候所以課程的終點費跟多元選課我們跟著能夠一起這個部分我們事實上一直在努力而且大學有許多的老師他們默默在協助高中職學生的一些多元的一些發展是\n\n10:58.715 --> 11:06.004\n好因為等一下主席可能30秒就會站起來好我們今天帶主席不知道30秒會不會站起來時間有限最後一題我來問一下下就是關於學習歷程檔案的這個部分那學習歷程檔案一直以來當然我們其實也討論過很多很多次\n\n11:16.898 --> 11:41.433\n上次其實部長跟葉秉成次長也特別來我的辦公室也特別有特別提到這個學習歷程檔案的部分那我們必須說這個是訓練學生非常好的一個方式把自己的學習歷程不管是從高一、高二一直到了高三但是目前我們看到其實很多的學生他們比較擔憂的是高一、高二跟高三其實他們的學習歷程檔案跟他們的性向其實是會完全南轅北轍\n\n11:45.875 --> 12:05.346\n接著下來可能要選擇大學的一個科系可能也跟他原本的學習歷程檔案其實也都完全不相關雖然大學教授可能會覺得說沒有關係就算你的學習歷程檔案跟我的科系其實沒有相關但我們還是依舊會看還是希望能夠把這個學習歷程檔案做得更加的完整\n\n12:05.806 --> 12:27.163\n好當學習歷程做得更加的完成的時候其實就很多所謂的現場的歪風就出來了關學習歷程檔案你只要打上去所有的文章出現的時候中間可能就會夾帶一行叫做廣告學習歷程檔案不知道怎麼做嗎請點陳阿姨教你點進去就是補習班部長這個部分我們怎麼解套啊\n\n12:28.624 --> 12:46.609\n我想確實這個來自於民間的許多的這個商業行為我想我們來努力因為就我們高中端的老師的提醒大概會用到補習班的不到2%所以其實他是非常低位那以我所理解的以臺大\n\n12:47.469 --> 13:13.647\n我現在葉次長不到2%對不對你講到2%又剛剛好接著下來我要扣的主題上次其實葉秉成這個次長有特別講到他希望所謂的多元選才我們希望真的不要只有2%他希望再往更高的方向多元選才其實看的就是學習歷程檔案但是現在我們光是數字統計下來他不是2%耶糟糕了他只有1.5%耶他的門是這麼的窄\n\n13:16.309 --> 13:44.184\n但是希望用學習歷程檔案多元選材的學生有將近30%以上喔沒有沒有我是剛好你講到的2%因為時間有限我先點出我要講的這些問題喔我是說多元選材看學習歷程檔案的門檻或者是條件我們是不是可以再放寬一點點讓更多想要因為學習歷程做得很好的學生可以侵入到他們理想的科系這沒有問題我們來研議看怎麼樣讓學生有真正能夠\n\n13:45.365 --> 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好你講到2%，我的時間有限，我先點出我要講的這些問題。我是說多元選才看學習歷程檔案的門檻或者是條件，我們是不是可以再放寬一點點，讓更多想要因為學習歷程做得很好的學生可以進入到他們理想的科系，可以嗎？"],["鄭部長英耀：這沒有問題，我們來研議，看怎麼樣來讓學生真正能夠選擇他的生涯，能夠適性發展，有更好的機會。"],["郭委員昱晴：好，我們機會很多，我們隨時討論，滾動式的討論，謝謝我們的部長，謝謝主席，謝謝。"],["鄭部長英耀：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝，部長請回座，謝謝郭昱晴委員質詢。接下來請林宜瑾委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":422,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-22-8","speakers":["范雲","洪孟楷","葛如鈞","萬美玲","陳培瑜","林倩綺","陳秀寳","郭昱晴","林宜瑾","張雅琳","吳沛憶","黃健豪","吳思瑤","林德福","王育敏","陳昭姿","涂權吉","楊瓊瓔","吳春城","羅智強","林月琴","羅廷瑋","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","葉元之","陳俊宇","翁曉玲","柯志恩","邱志偉","何欣純"],"page_start":339,"meetingDate":["2024-11-14"],"gazette_id":"1139901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1139901_00007"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案；二、審查114年度教育部主管\n47 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