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00:02:46,883\n根據戰情中心成立的意旨,這次會議的主題有什麼樣的訊息跟情資,需要環境部派這些人熬夜輪值,而且必要時要下達部長的指令。\n\n8\n00:03:09,316 --> 00:03:25,032\n大家在熬夜吧?應該沒有熬夜,因為那邊也是有睡覺,因為他們只有時差大概5個小時,4個小時,然後那大概工作到晚上8、9點左右就結束,中午開始工作。感覺大家都很有那個熱忱。\n\n9\n00:03:25,933 --> 00:03:45,013\n有有有那根據本辦的了解齁這次主席呢是亞塞拜然的這個生態與自然資源部的部長那除了部長層級之外呢有其他國家的領導人會出席嗎有非常多但是沒有像往年那麼的多那我聽說是拜登也會去但是還沒有確認\n\n10\n00:03:46,254 --> 00:04:14,506\n好,那我們台灣並不是締約國只是說在這個會議討論出來的決議會有影響我國政策跟權益的議題嗎?報告委員目前最關注的就是巴黎氣候協定的第6條6.4那它這個最主要是全球的碳市場的建立那目前我們最關注這一條因為這個會跟台灣未來的包括我們的出口我們的碳定價會有很顯著的關係所以目前這個是\n\n11\n00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:18,763\n這次可能會有一個很重大的通過我們是密切關注這一條\n\n12\n00:04:19,997 --> 00:04:44,580\n所以部長因為這樣聽下來你真的非常的投入很有那個熱情然後既然成立了熱戰情中心那我覺得這個會不會是有可能來增加我們未來成為締約國的機會再更進一步這樣子我個人是期待我也希望有一朝一日我用環境部長的身份能夠參加UFCCC但是我也知道國際的現實但是我很務實低調的來進行\n\n13\n00:04:46,462 --> 00:05:10,353\n好那在這次的這個戰情中心的成立記者會部長有提到就是說擔心美國總統當選人可能會產生全球淨零轉型的亂流那因為我不太清楚你這樣講的原因是什麼啦因為畢竟就是說我們這樣子去評論他國的決定特別是美國這樣子泱泱大國\n\n14\n00:05:12,794 --> 00:05:34,663\n就是這樣會不會太過於偏頗我是有一點擔心而且我們也不是締約國我們雖然不是締約國但是我們一直在很努力在推動在做從事這個保護環境然後朝著這個節能減碳的目標一直在做努力\n\n15\n00:05:37,441 --> 00:06:03,875\n只是說因為現在當然就是說當時我們現在就是已經當選的川普未來的總統就是說讓美國退出締約國就是說他講了這樣的話那你怎麼斷定說他們退出了他就不會去致力於在這個善盡這個地球公民的責任然後反而成為你口中的亂流\n\n16\n00:06:05,095 --> 00:06:26,888\n因為部長你現在應該已經沒有在播報氣象了沒有沒有沒有所以這個到底是怎麼樣因為我有點擔心這樣的言論會有不良的影響報告委員因為當時是因為這個那幾天那個全世界的所有的評論都是非常的負面\n\n17\n00:06:27,768 --> 00:06:44,415\n那也跟委員報告其實經過這幾次我們也成立一個小組專門探討川普總統的未來的這個政策那我也必須說其實川普他跟8年前的那時候退出的這個巴黎氣候協定的這個方法\n\n18\n00:06:44,735 --> 00:06:45,095\nbicyclone\n\n19\n00:07:09,895 --> 00:07:33,678\n我其實有點聽不太懂這個部長的意思所以這樣亂流他是一個正向的字眼還是亂流之後會雨過天晴然後會影響未來應該會雨過天晴而且會慢慢的回到一個正軌那我個人是不擔心因為我們目前其實所以你講的亂流不是指\n\n20\n00:07:34,906 --> 00:08:00,661\n不是指川普?可能因為國際的氣候談判目前的確是有一點有一點這個大家擔心這個未來會怎麼樣不確定所以不確定性當然就用這個亂流形容是非常的貼切但是我也必須說因為川普總統他過去這個8年都參與很多的選舉他對於治國有他一定的看法那根據我們現在我們評估起來其實他相信在淨零部分他一定有他的看法\n\n21\n00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:28,988\n我們也很樂意因為我其實你一直在繼續談論這個我有一點很擔心啦我希望因為我很擔心後面如果有什麼差錯我覺得那個有關於這樣子的一個討論我想我們還是先跳過了所以在這一次這個我剛剛提出的問題你所謂的亂流應該本席聽起來它就是一個過程\n\n22\n00:08:29,808 --> 00:08:34,293\n事實上本期在第28次的會議的時候就有提醒從這個地球憲章\n\n23\n00:08:45,685 --> 00:09:09,759\n的這個內容來看呢善用原住民對自然資源的智慧一直是各國規劃保護地球的一個很重要的政策我們不能忘記就是說在這個COVID-19會議的重要議題特別是在這個邀請原住民代表的參與也是一項會議的這個重點那部長去參加\n\n24\n00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:27,351\n»:過去參加了這麼多次是不是也應該要有這個思考就是說來邀請我們原住民的代表去參加相關的活動然後藉此來吸收各國當時運用原住民智慧的一個具體做法然後帶回來做參考\n\n25\n00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:47,157\n報告委員這個其實過去我參加過11次每次原住民都有相對應的活動我都非常感動啦那台灣參與的的確比較少那我們也希望明年COP30在巴西的時候我想我們參與少應該一來資訊少二來也是沒有受到邀請對對我們會來促成這件事情\n\n26\n00:09:47,777 --> 00:10:03,528\n對,所以希望部長上任之後會有新的氣象。好,謝謝。那本席還要在這裡特別呼籲環境部就是有關於這個永續發展在這次會議是各國優先推動的這個具體目標。\n\n27\n00:10:05,549 --> 00:10:25,775\n介注原住民跟自然生態環境融合的智慧那更是就是說規範在地球現障裡面那環境部未來在這個碳費基金的運用上呢也應該就是不能偏離這個世界潮流一定要記住原住民重要的角色好不好\n\n28\n00:10:27,436 --> 00:10:50,608\n所以你們這一次的戰情中心相信對於這個各國因應氣候變遷的這個作為應該也收集了不少資訊了對好那我要在這裡特別要求就是針對各國運用原住民智慧智慧的作為那也要請你們一併收集就是說把整理好的這些資料提供給本辦參考同時呢\n\n29\n00:10:51,668 --> 00:11:19,992\n也要參採這個運用轉化就是未來政策的擬定也要一併加以規劃那更重要的就是說就是說明年你們派出去支持的這個就是說那個民間團體的部分也應該要包含原住民的團體或代表部長是不是可以認同本席的要求非要認同也謝謝委員的指教我們會來促成這些事情好謝謝委員生日快樂\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4945\t25857\t謝謝主席,麻煩請彭部長。陳委員好。部長好,你現在肚子很餓嗎?還可以。學堂還可以。所以我們今天應該不會發生因為你太餓了,然後就結束了本席的質詢吧?不會。希望你能夠撐下去。\n27838\t37184\t最近從媒體的報導環境部成立了第29次全球氣候變遷締約國大會的戰情中心這是過去從來沒有過的創舉因此我要在這邊請教這個戰情中心它是一個任務編組嗎?\n49211\t76571\t報告委員因為全世界UFCCC有197個地約方啦那全世界大概200多個國家那我大概我有上確GPT還有各自查過全世界有三個環境部長是負責氣候變遷的沒辦法去一個是梵蒂岡一個是科索沃另外一個就是台灣那我自己因為我以前都參與很多那這次我沒有辦法參與但是我們覺得我們還是要積極的去跟國際接軌知道他們在做什麼\n76971\t99718\t゚∀゚。\n99918\t125503\t大概多少人?現在我平常去看的話大概有15個人左右。那戰情室的指揮官是誰?應該不是趙少康。不是不是。是我們蔡署長。蔡署長。那我們前線派出去參加會議的這個組織或團體有多少個?那他們有什麼樣的配備?那然後這些可以即時回傳訊息這樣子。\n127417\t151550\t報告委員可以但是因為我們臺灣因為這次這個亞賽拜仁他的這個國家立場上比較特別一點點所以我們也保持我們的低調我們以務實的獲取臺灣最大的權利為基礎所以人的部分還有層級的部分也請委員給我一點空間但是我們的確派了很多的智庫給你空間是要保密的意思還是怎麼樣因為聽了好久還聽不到數字\n152771\t161467\t我們都保持暢通的聯絡,但是其實有些我們不要對外曝光。好,就不方便講,方便在這裡回答就是了。對,對,對。好,我也不會逼你啦,講就好了,因為\n162679\t166883\t根據戰情中心成立的意旨,這次會議的主題有什麼樣的訊息跟情資,需要環境部派這些人熬夜輪值,而且必要時要下達部長的指令。\n189316\t205032\t大家在熬夜吧?應該沒有熬夜,因為那邊也是有睡覺,因為他們只有時差大概5個小時,4個小時,然後那大概工作到晚上8、9點左右就結束,中午開始工作。感覺大家都很有那個熱忱。\n205933\t225013\t有有有那根據本辦的了解齁這次主席呢是亞塞拜然的這個生態與自然資源部的部長那除了部長層級之外呢有其他國家的領導人會出席嗎有非常多但是沒有像往年那麼的多那我聽說是拜登也會去但是還沒有確認\n226254\t254506\t好,那我們台灣並不是締約國只是說在這個會議討論出來的決議會有影響我國政策跟權益的議題嗎?報告委員目前最關注的就是巴黎氣候協定的第6條6.4那它這個最主要是全球的碳市場的建立那目前我們最關注這一條因為這個會跟台灣未來的包括我們的出口我們的碳定價會有很顯著的關係所以目前這個是\n255388\t258763\t這次可能會有一個很重大的通過我們是密切關注這一條\n259997\t284580\t所以部長因為這樣聽下來你真的非常的投入很有那個熱情然後既然成立了熱戰情中心那我覺得這個會不會是有可能來增加我們未來成為締約國的機會再更進一步這樣子我個人是期待我也希望有一朝一日我用環境部長的身份能夠參加UFCCC但是我也知道國際的現實但是我很務實低調的來進行\n286462\t310353\t好那在這次的這個戰情中心的成立記者會部長有提到就是說擔心美國總統當選人可能會產生全球淨零轉型的亂流那因為我不太清楚你這樣講的原因是什麼啦因為畢竟就是說我們這樣子去評論他國的決定特別是美國這樣子泱泱大國\n312794\t334663\t就是這樣會不會太過於偏頗我是有一點擔心而且我們也不是締約國我們雖然不是締約國但是我們一直在很努力在推動在做從事這個保護環境然後朝著這個節能減碳的目標一直在做努力\n337441\t363875\t只是說因為現在當然就是說當時我們現在就是已經當選的川普未來的總統就是說讓美國退出締約國就是說他講了這樣的話那你怎麼斷定說他們退出了他就不會去致力於在這個善盡這個地球公民的責任然後反而成為你口中的亂流\n365095\t386888\t因為部長你現在應該已經沒有在播報氣象了沒有沒有沒有所以這個到底是怎麼樣因為我有點擔心這樣的言論會有不良的影響報告委員因為當時是因為這個那幾天那個全世界的所有的評論都是非常的負面\n387768\t404415\t那也跟委員報告其實經過這幾次我們也成立一個小組專門探討川普總統的未來的這個政策那我也必須說其實川普他跟8年前的那時候退出的這個巴黎氣候協定的這個方法\n404735\t405095\tbicyclone\n429895\t453678\t我其實有點聽不太懂這個部長的意思所以這樣亂流他是一個正向的字眼還是亂流之後會雨過天晴然後會影響未來應該會雨過天晴而且會慢慢的回到一個正軌那我個人是不擔心因為我們目前其實所以你講的亂流不是指\n454906\t480661\t不是指川普?可能因為國際的氣候談判目前的確是有一點有一點這個大家擔心這個未來會怎麼樣不確定所以不確定性當然就用這個亂流形容是非常的貼切但是我也必須說因為川普總統他過去這個8年都參與很多的選舉他對於治國有他一定的看法那根據我們現在我們評估起來其實他相信在淨零部分他一定有他的看法\n481381\t508988\t我們也很樂意因為我其實你一直在繼續談論這個我有一點很擔心啦我希望因為我很擔心後面如果有什麼差錯我覺得那個有關於這樣子的一個討論我想我們還是先跳過了所以在這一次這個我剛剛提出的問題你所謂的亂流應該本席聽起來它就是一個過程\n509808\t514293\t事實上本期在第28次的會議的時候就有提醒從這個地球憲章\n525685\t549759\t的這個內容來看呢善用原住民對自然資源的智慧一直是各國規劃保護地球的一個很重要的政策我們不能忘記就是說在這個COVID-19會議的重要議題特別是在這個邀請原住民代表的參與也是一項會議的這個重點那部長去參加\n551420\t567351\t»: 過去參加了這麼多次是不是也應該要有這個思考就是說來邀請我們原住民的代表去參加相關的活動然後藉此來吸收各國當時運用原住民智慧的一個具體做法然後帶回來做參考\n569030\t587157\t報告委員這個其實過去我參加過11次每次原住民都有相對應的活動我都非常感動啦那台灣參與的的確比較少那我們也希望明年COP30在巴西的時候我想我們參與少應該一來資訊少二來也是沒有受到邀請對對我們會來促成這件事情\n587777\t603528\t對,所以希望部長上任之後會有新的氣象。好,謝謝。那本席還要在這裡特別呼籲環境部就是有關於這個永續發展在這次會議是各國優先推動的這個具體目標。\n605549\t625775\t介注原住民跟自然生態環境融合的智慧那更是就是說規範在地球現障裡面那環境部未來在這個碳費基金的運用上呢也應該就是不能偏離這個世界潮流一定要記住原住民重要的角色好不好\n627436\t650608\t所以你們這一次的戰情中心相信對於這個各國因應氣候變遷的這個作為應該也收集了不少資訊了對好那我要在這裡特別要求就是針對各國運用原住民智慧智慧的作為那也要請你們一併收集就是說把整理好的這些資料提供給本辦參考同時呢\n651668\t679992\t也要參採這個運用轉化就是未來政策的擬定也要一併加以規劃那更重要的就是說就是說明年你們派出去支持的這個就是說那個民間團體的部分也應該要包含原住民的團體或代表部長是不是可以認同本席的要求非要認同也謝謝委員的指教我們會來促成這些事情好謝謝委員生日快樂\n683933\t684121\t三、審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算案關於環境部部主管預算。\n","txt":"謝謝主席,麻煩請彭部長。陳委員好。部長好,你現在肚子很餓嗎?還可以。學堂還可以。所以我們今天應該不會發生因為你太餓了,然後就結束了本席的質詢吧?不會。希望你能夠撐下去。\n最近從媒體的報導環境部成立了第29次全球氣候變遷締約國大會的戰情中心這是過去從來沒有過的創舉因此我要在這邊請教這個戰情中心它是一個任務編組嗎?\n報告委員因為全世界UFCCC有197個地約方啦那全世界大概200多個國家那我大概我有上確GPT還有各自查過全世界有三個環境部長是負責氣候變遷的沒辦法去一個是梵蒂岡一個是科索沃另外一個就是台灣那我自己因為我以前都參與很多那這次我沒有辦法參與但是我們覺得我們還是要積極的去跟國際接軌知道他們在做什麼\n゚∀゚。\n大概多少人?現在我平常去看的話大概有15個人左右。那戰情室的指揮官是誰?應該不是趙少康。不是不是。是我們蔡署長。蔡署長。那我們前線派出去參加會議的這個組織或團體有多少個?那他們有什麼樣的配備?那然後這些可以即時回傳訊息這樣子。\n報告委員可以但是因為我們臺灣因為這次這個亞賽拜仁他的這個國家立場上比較特別一點點所以我們也保持我們的低調我們以務實的獲取臺灣最大的權利為基礎所以人的部分還有層級的部分也請委員給我一點空間但是我們的確派了很多的智庫給你空間是要保密的意思還是怎麼樣因為聽了好久還聽不到數字\n我們都保持暢通的聯絡,但是其實有些我們不要對外曝光。好,就不方便講,方便在這裡回答就是了。對,對,對。好,我也不會逼你啦,講就好了,因為\n根據戰情中心成立的意旨,這次會議的主題有什麼樣的訊息跟情資,需要環境部派這些人熬夜輪值,而且必要時要下達部長的指令。\n大家在熬夜吧?應該沒有熬夜,因為那邊也是有睡覺,因為他們只有時差大概5個小時,4個小時,然後那大概工作到晚上8、9點左右就結束,中午開始工作。感覺大家都很有那個熱忱。\n有有有那根據本辦的了解齁這次主席呢是亞塞拜然的這個生態與自然資源部的部長那除了部長層級之外呢有其他國家的領導人會出席嗎有非常多但是沒有像往年那麼的多那我聽說是拜登也會去但是還沒有確認\n好,那我們台灣並不是締約國只是說在這個會議討論出來的決議會有影響我國政策跟權益的議題嗎?報告委員目前最關注的就是巴黎氣候協定的第6條6.4那它這個最主要是全球的碳市場的建立那目前我們最關注這一條因為這個會跟台灣未來的包括我們的出口我們的碳定價會有很顯著的關係所以目前這個是\n這次可能會有一個很重大的通過我們是密切關注這一條\n所以部長因為這樣聽下來你真的非常的投入很有那個熱情然後既然成立了熱戰情中心那我覺得這個會不會是有可能來增加我們未來成為締約國的機會再更進一步這樣子我個人是期待我也希望有一朝一日我用環境部長的身份能夠參加UFCCC但是我也知道國際的現實但是我很務實低調的來進行\n好那在這次的這個戰情中心的成立記者會部長有提到就是說擔心美國總統當選人可能會產生全球淨零轉型的亂流那因為我不太清楚你這樣講的原因是什麼啦因為畢竟就是說我們這樣子去評論他國的決定特別是美國這樣子泱泱大國\n就是這樣會不會太過於偏頗我是有一點擔心而且我們也不是締約國我們雖然不是締約國但是我們一直在很努力在推動在做從事這個保護環境然後朝著這個節能減碳的目標一直在做努力\n只是說因為現在當然就是說當時我們現在就是已經當選的川普未來的總統就是說讓美國退出締約國就是說他講了這樣的話那你怎麼斷定說他們退出了他就不會去致力於在這個善盡這個地球公民的責任然後反而成為你口中的亂流\n因為部長你現在應該已經沒有在播報氣象了沒有沒有沒有所以這個到底是怎麼樣因為我有點擔心這樣的言論會有不良的影響報告委員因為當時是因為這個那幾天那個全世界的所有的評論都是非常的負面\n那也跟委員報告其實經過這幾次我們也成立一個小組專門探討川普總統的未來的這個政策那我也必須說其實川普他跟8年前的那時候退出的這個巴黎氣候協定的這個方法\nbicyclone\n我其實有點聽不太懂這個部長的意思所以這樣亂流他是一個正向的字眼還是亂流之後會雨過天晴然後會影響未來應該會雨過天晴而且會慢慢的回到一個正軌那我個人是不擔心因為我們目前其實所以你講的亂流不是指\n不是指川普?可能因為國際的氣候談判目前的確是有一點有一點這個大家擔心這個未來會怎麼樣不確定所以不確定性當然就用這個亂流形容是非常的貼切但是我也必須說因為川普總統他過去這個8年都參與很多的選舉他對於治國有他一定的看法那根據我們現在我們評估起來其實他相信在淨零部分他一定有他的看法\n我們也很樂意因為我其實你一直在繼續談論這個我有一點很擔心啦我希望因為我很擔心後面如果有什麼差錯我覺得那個有關於這樣子的一個討論我想我們還是先跳過了所以在這一次這個我剛剛提出的問題你所謂的亂流應該本席聽起來它就是一個過程\n事實上本期在第28次的會議的時候就有提醒從這個地球憲章\n的這個內容來看呢善用原住民對自然資源的智慧一直是各國規劃保護地球的一個很重要的政策我們不能忘記就是說在這個COVID-19會議的重要議題特別是在這個邀請原住民代表的參與也是一項會議的這個重點那部長去參加\n»: 過去參加了這麼多次是不是也應該要有這個思考就是說來邀請我們原住民的代表去參加相關的活動然後藉此來吸收各國當時運用原住民智慧的一個具體做法然後帶回來做參考\n報告委員這個其實過去我參加過11次每次原住民都有相對應的活動我都非常感動啦那台灣參與的的確比較少那我們也希望明年COP30在巴西的時候我想我們參與少應該一來資訊少二來也是沒有受到邀請對對我們會來促成這件事情\n對,所以希望部長上任之後會有新的氣象。好,謝謝。那本席還要在這裡特別呼籲環境部就是有關於這個永續發展在這次會議是各國優先推動的這個具體目標。\n介注原住民跟自然生態環境融合的智慧那更是就是說規範在地球現障裡面那環境部未來在這個碳費基金的運用上呢也應該就是不能偏離這個世界潮流一定要記住原住民重要的角色好不好\n所以你們這一次的戰情中心相信對於這個各國因應氣候變遷的這個作為應該也收集了不少資訊了對好那我要在這裡特別要求就是針對各國運用原住民智慧智慧的作為那也要請你們一併收集就是說把整理好的這些資料提供給本辦參考同時呢\n也要參採這個運用轉化就是未來政策的擬定也要一併加以規劃那更重要的就是說就是說明年你們派出去支持的這個就是說那個民間團體的部分也應該要包含原住民的團體或代表部長是不是可以認同本席的要求非要認同也謝謝委員的指教我們會來促成這些事情好謝謝委員生日快樂\n三、審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算案關於環境部部主管預算。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.945 --> 00:25.857\n謝謝主席,麻煩請彭部長。陳委員好。部長好,你現在肚子很餓嗎?還可以。學堂還可以。所以我們今天應該不會發生因為你太餓了,然後就結束了本席的質詢吧?不會。希望你能夠撐下去。\n\n00:27.838 --> 00:37.184\n最近從媒體的報導環境部成立了第29次全球氣候變遷締約國大會的戰情中心這是過去從來沒有過的創舉因此我要在這邊請教這個戰情中心它是一個任務編組嗎?\n\n00:49.211 --> 01:16.571\n報告委員因為全世界UFCCC有197個地約方啦那全世界大概200多個國家那我大概我有上確GPT還有各自查過全世界有三個環境部長是負責氣候變遷的沒辦法去一個是梵蒂岡一個是科索沃另外一個就是台灣那我自己因為我以前都參與很多那這次我沒有辦法參與但是我們覺得我們還是要積極的去跟國際接軌知道他們在做什麼\n\n01:39.918 --> 02:05.503\n大概多少人?現在我平常去看的話大概有15個人左右。那戰情室的指揮官是誰?應該不是趙少康。不是不是。是我們蔡署長。蔡署長。那我們前線派出去參加會議的這個組織或團體有多少個?那他們有什麼樣的配備?那然後這些可以即時回傳訊息這樣子。\n\n02:07.417 --> 02:31.550\n報告委員可以但是因為我們臺灣因為這次這個亞賽拜仁他的這個國家立場上比較特別一點點所以我們也保持我們的低調我們以務實的獲取臺灣最大的權利為基礎所以人的部分還有層級的部分也請委員給我一點空間但是我們的確派了很多的智庫給你空間是要保密的意思還是怎麼樣因為聽了好久還聽不到數字\n\n02:32.771 --> 02:41.467\n我們都保持暢通的聯絡,但是其實有些我們不要對外曝光。好,就不方便講,方便在這裡回答就是了。對,對,對。好,我也不會逼你啦,講就好了,因為\n\n02:42.679 --> 02:46.883\n根據戰情中心成立的意旨,這次會議的主題有什麼樣的訊息跟情資,需要環境部派這些人熬夜輪值,而且必要時要下達部長的指令。\n\n03:09.316 --> 03:25.032\n大家在熬夜吧?應該沒有熬夜,因為那邊也是有睡覺,因為他們只有時差大概5個小時,4個小時,然後那大概工作到晚上8、9點左右就結束,中午開始工作。感覺大家都很有那個熱忱。\n\n03:25.933 --> 03:45.013\n有有有那根據本辦的了解齁這次主席呢是亞塞拜然的這個生態與自然資源部的部長那除了部長層級之外呢有其他國家的領導人會出席嗎有非常多但是沒有像往年那麼的多那我聽說是拜登也會去但是還沒有確認\n\n03:46.254 --> 04:14.506\n好,那我們台灣並不是締約國只是說在這個會議討論出來的決議會有影響我國政策跟權益的議題嗎?報告委員目前最關注的就是巴黎氣候協定的第6條6.4那它這個最主要是全球的碳市場的建立那目前我們最關注這一條因為這個會跟台灣未來的包括我們的出口我們的碳定價會有很顯著的關係所以目前這個是\n\n04:15.388 --> 04:18.763\n這次可能會有一個很重大的通過我們是密切關注這一條\n\n04:19.997 --> 04:44.580\n所以部長因為這樣聽下來你真的非常的投入很有那個熱情然後既然成立了熱戰情中心那我覺得這個會不會是有可能來增加我們未來成為締約國的機會再更進一步這樣子我個人是期待我也希望有一朝一日我用環境部長的身份能夠參加UFCCC但是我也知道國際的現實但是我很務實低調的來進行\n\n04:46.462 --> 05:10.353\n好那在這次的這個戰情中心的成立記者會部長有提到就是說擔心美國總統當選人可能會產生全球淨零轉型的亂流那因為我不太清楚你這樣講的原因是什麼啦因為畢竟就是說我們這樣子去評論他國的決定特別是美國這樣子泱泱大國\n\n05:12.794 --> 05:34.663\n就是這樣會不會太過於偏頗我是有一點擔心而且我們也不是締約國我們雖然不是締約國但是我們一直在很努力在推動在做從事這個保護環境然後朝著這個節能減碳的目標一直在做努力\n\n05:37.441 --> 06:03.875\n只是說因為現在當然就是說當時我們現在就是已經當選的川普未來的總統就是說讓美國退出締約國就是說他講了這樣的話那你怎麼斷定說他們退出了他就不會去致力於在這個善盡這個地球公民的責任然後反而成為你口中的亂流\n\n06:05.095 --> 06:26.888\n因為部長你現在應該已經沒有在播報氣象了沒有沒有沒有所以這個到底是怎麼樣因為我有點擔心這樣的言論會有不良的影響報告委員因為當時是因為這個那幾天那個全世界的所有的評論都是非常的負面\n\n06:27.768 --> 06:44.415\n那也跟委員報告其實經過這幾次我們也成立一個小組專門探討川普總統的未來的這個政策那我也必須說其實川普他跟8年前的那時候退出的這個巴黎氣候協定的這個方法\n\n06:44.735 --> 06:45.095\nbicyclone\n\n07:09.895 --> 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