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00:03:36,391\n溫室的種植啊好那現在包括斑斑有石斑這是為了因應什麼難道你們真的有這個前瞻性嗎是因為中國禁止進口我們的石斑有斑斑有鮮奶難道是因為你們要真的要這個要保護我們國內的弱農嗎是因為我們面對的紐西蘭的這個免關稅鮮奶免關稅到現在還是永久乳在替代啊\n\n12\n00:03:37,071 --> 00:03:57,087\n好那現在最好笑的是你們現在說不勉強不勉強各個學校去做你要不要班班有先來因為你的弱農的本身的量體不夠啊你也必須用替代的那個永久農來啊所以這在在在的從講到我們農業政策是缺乏產業戰略規劃產業的戰略規劃\n\n13\n00:04:00,350 --> 00:04:00,410\n非營業部分：\n\n14\n00:04:11,707 --> 00:04:35,441\n只有全部的部會就只有農業部最弱五。好,我們來看走過口蹄疫之後的疫情管制。今年口蹄疫去年我們拔針一定要一年。好,那現在我們有市場嘛。那本席認為如果真的養豬業要有真的國家對在國際市場上能夠再現風華AI基因定序的基因農業兩件事情喔。\n\n15\n00:04:37,242 --> 00:04:45,807\nAI是來基因定序是一件事情我用AI來匹配基因定序又是一個技術這應該導入我的養豬業好我們來看左邊美國丹麥英國美國的美投豬的養殖過程我講的是豬本身產生我如何降低他百分之他美國能夠降低這頭豬在養殖過程當中的7.7的碳排\n\n16\n00:05:02,276 --> 00:05:07,960\n丹麥它的生米頭豬的生產效益增加30%減碳26%英國是米頭豬的增加35%的遺傳增進率減碳10%他們還設定喔本身養豬喔不是講養豬的環境喔這等一下我後面會講養豬本身他2050年英國說他們要減碳80%\n\n17\n00:05:26,793 --> 00:05:29,495\n好這當中的技術在哪裡他為什麼能夠增加豬的生產效益為什麼他能夠豬本身生產的減碳他做到了飼料換肉率的提高他做到的實性好的品種的挑選他做到的體型加的種源的篩選\n\n18\n00:05:47,506 --> 00:05:47,906\n非營業部分：發言委員：\n\n19\n00:06:08,354 --> 00:06:21,729\n那當然他的這個他的長肉就會快所以本席認為今天我們的養豬隊養豬國家隊如果真的要立足台灣放眼全球再次的拓展國際市場全基因體的AI育種整個之全部的基因定序\n\n20\n00:06:27,662 --> 00:06:33,006\n然後呢才會有可能我們的AI一種永續增值重返光榮這會達成我們的糧食安全環境永續整體健康我講的整體健康豬健康人健康環境健康好我們這個\n\n21\n00:06:44,114 --> 00:06:56,220\n在上個禮拜這個是多麼美好的一件事情但是他是民間自主來做臺灣特色農業的榮耀找回美味的種源是台灣米是台灣因此的一個印象但是\n\n22\n00:07:01,523 --> 00:07:28,874\n基因不存實的臺灣市場上的黑豬存在三個問題第一個外表性狀差異大第二個生產效率不一第三品質規格不易控管所以我們當然很難走向高品質的國際市場這個這家民間公司透過了基因定序的技術找回了臺灣原生種的黑豬的DNA總源成為我們初始的目標平埔黑豬\n\n23\n00:07:30,236 --> 00:07:30,476\n發言委員：發言委員：發言委員：\n\n24\n00:07:52,842 --> 00:07:52,942\n發言委員：\n\n25\n00:08:13,772 --> 00:08:30,587\n當然有,我們民間做出來了。好,這樣的豬種有什麼好處?它能夠適應台灣亞熱帶且這個肉質以伊比利豬不相三下世界最好的豬伊比利豬算數一數二嫩度甜度優於市售的白豬這個都含進口豬好,我們看國產豬的過去跟現在好,過去我們在1997年口蹄爆發之前我國的豬口日本是20萬以上的豬肉\n\n26\n00:08:41,417 --> 00:08:42,498\n農業部過去的養豬效益,在1996年我們的豬價每公斤58元,出口當時每公斤是豬肉152元。\n\n27\n00:09:00,948 --> 00:09:21,806\n二〇二一年我們不能出口但是我們每公斤價格提升了七十六點七就在這時候我看日本各國輸入日本的這個價格是不高於每公斤一百五十塊的所以你這樣台灣在今年七月一號這個解除台灣口蹄疫的疫區限制台灣的\n\n28\n00:09:23,107 --> 00:09:39,024\n豬肉的優勢已經不在了當我的豬價1996年每公斤是58我提升到2021年的每公斤76.7但是日本進口日本的價格有沒有變沒變那你說我們怎麼可能有競爭力下面兩個圖這個參考\n\n29\n00:09:40,686 --> 00:09:45,109\n好,走過狗敵意之後我們如何強化養豬的產業競爭力提升我國豬隻跟豬隻產品競爭力開啟國際市場的新契機為當務之急本席要講的是在今天講到國際合作如果我們台灣的種族只要導入AI而且用AI來做基因定序來存化品種它一定有一個特色耐思、耐熱\n\n30\n00:10:06,064 --> 00:10:06,084\n發言員：\n\n31\n00:10:25,408 --> 00:10:31,250\n主席不好意思再給我一分鐘了那我就再批評一下農業部好了請你們看PIG333全世界的這個這個國際豬連國外都把我們的豬分析出來我們豬為什麼貴我們的飼料成本貴所以我們美國你看這是全世界成本每公斤豬肉成本生產最高的是台灣去看看這個期刊\n\n32\n00:10:53,297 --> 00:11:03,343\n好那產業政策沒有就算了本席主張由國營事業台塘開始展開我國的豬隻經營地序藉由國營事業的競爭力提升刺激整體豬隻的續產第二個比照台塘東海豐東海豐你們只做什麼你們做人員政策不是做產業政策你們用了這個早期他的人他的豬的\n\n33\n00:11:16,812 --> 00:11:26,566\n排泄物來做早期發電這叫做能源政策不是農業政策所以呢部長您這個可不可以針對本席的建議一個月內提供給本席\n\n34\n00:11:27,662 --> 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這個早期他的人他的豬的\n排泄物來做早期發電這叫做能源政策不是農業政策所以呢部長您這個可不可以針對本席的建議一個月內提供給本席\n我想有關於數位預總的部分我們會在一個月提供但是國營事業台當是經濟部所屬不是農業部所管我們會跟他我們一起來協助他們的不連花了6個多億哪一個農業民間可以花了6個多億來處理那個水聯的問題所以部長太落伍了請你支持我們的卓院長的AI內閣好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.214 --> 00:26.542\n請回部陳部長部長您的結語說我們本部持續精進各項的農業政策作為以多元輔導協助產業升級提升競爭力落實智慧韌性智慧韌性\n\n00:27.842 --> 00:29.104\n臺灣農業生產的悲慘循環又開始了,年復一年。\n\n00:45.783 --> 00:46.123\n發言委員：發言委員：\n\n01:05.590 --> 01:20.985\n農業部開始就要智慧管理有啦你們現在有做啦在成吉仲時代有做了一個所謂的平台他要離智慧化的管理還差得遠啊那本席也一直倡議你如何解決菜土菜金你所有的產銷的資訊能夠從部分\n\n01:23.888 --> 01:24.048\n發言委員：\n\n01:47.634 --> 01:47.754\n發言委員：\n\n02:07.751 --> 02:25.553\n所有的各部會喔部會只有農業部沒有做兩件事情第一個我們的智慧AI的導入智慧化基金這個是一個概念我如果在算力的導入當中去提升我們的生產的良率去提升我們的品質第二個節能減碳\n\n02:27.475 --> 02:27.775\n就在做這兩件事情而已,農業部有做嗎?\n\n02:27.775 --> 02:30.098\n沒有。所以呢你導致你的這個12月到2月高利貸,好現在止爆了。那像今年3到5月香蕉過剩,然後整年度的雞蛋生產過剩,那只要颱風,香菜我們動輒美金就六七百塊,那你一定會說這個是颱風啊。\n\n02:52.197 --> 02:52.257\n發言委員：\n\n03:09.621 --> 03:36.391\n溫室的種植啊好那現在包括斑斑有石斑這是為了因應什麼難道你們真的有這個前瞻性嗎是因為中國禁止進口我們的石斑有斑斑有鮮奶難道是因為你們要真的要這個要保護我們國內的弱農嗎是因為我們面對的紐西蘭的這個免關稅鮮奶免關稅到現在還是永久乳在替代啊\n\n03:37.071 --> 03:57.087\n好那現在最好笑的是你們現在說不勉強不勉強各個學校去做你要不要班班有先來因為你的弱農的本身的量體不夠啊你也必須用替代的那個永久農來啊所以這在在在的從講到我們農業政策是缺乏產業戰略規劃產業的戰略規劃\n\n04:00.350 --> 04:00.410\n非營業部分：\n\n04:11.707 --> 04:35.441\n只有全部的部會就只有農業部最弱五。好,我們來看走過口蹄疫之後的疫情管制。今年口蹄疫去年我們拔針一定要一年。好,那現在我們有市場嘛。那本席認為如果真的養豬業要有真的國家對在國際市場上能夠再現風華AI基因定序的基因農業兩件事情喔。\n\n04:37.242 --> 04:45.807\nAI是來基因定序是一件事情我用AI來匹配基因定序又是一個技術這應該導入我的養豬業好我們來看左邊美國丹麥英國美國的美投豬的養殖過程我講的是豬本身產生我如何降低他百分之他美國能夠降低這頭豬在養殖過程當中的7.7的碳排\n\n05:02.276 --> 05:07.960\n丹麥它的生米頭豬的生產效益增加30%減碳26%英國是米頭豬的增加35%的遺傳增進率減碳10%他們還設定喔本身養豬喔不是講養豬的環境喔這等一下我後面會講養豬本身他2050年英國說他們要減碳80%\n\n05:26.793 --> 05:29.495\n好這當中的技術在哪裡他為什麼能夠增加豬的生產效益為什麼他能夠豬本身生產的減碳他做到了飼料換肉率的提高他做到的實性好的品種的挑選他做到的體型加的種源的篩選\n\n05:47.506 --> 05:47.906\n非營業部分：發言委員：\n\n06:08.354 --> 06:21.729\n那當然他的這個他的長肉就會快所以本席認為今天我們的養豬隊養豬國家隊如果真的要立足台灣放眼全球再次的拓展國際市場全基因體的AI育種整個之全部的基因定序\n\n06:27.662 --> 06:33.006\n然後呢才會有可能我們的AI一種永續增值重返光榮這會達成我們的糧食安全環境永續整體健康我講的整體健康豬健康人健康環境健康好我們這個\n\n06:44.114 --> 06:56.220\n在上個禮拜這個是多麼美好的一件事情但是他是民間自主來做臺灣特色農業的榮耀找回美味的種源是台灣米是台灣因此的一個印象但是\n\n07:01.523 --> 07:28.874\n基因不存實的臺灣市場上的黑豬存在三個問題第一個外表性狀差異大第二個生產效率不一第三品質規格不易控管所以我們當然很難走向高品質的國際市場這個這家民間公司透過了基因定序的技術找回了臺灣原生種的黑豬的DNA總源成為我們初始的目標平埔黑豬\n\n07:30.236 --> 07:30.476\n發言委員：發言委員：發言委員：\n\n07:52.842 --> 07:52.942\n發言委員：\n\n08:13.772 --> 08:30.587\n當然有,我們民間做出來了。好,這樣的豬種有什麼好處?它能夠適應台灣亞熱帶且這個肉質以伊比利豬不相三下世界最好的豬伊比利豬算數一數二嫩度甜度優於市售的白豬這個都含進口豬好,我們看國產豬的過去跟現在好,過去我們在1997年口蹄爆發之前我國的豬口日本是20萬以上的豬肉\n\n08:41.417 --> 08:42.498\n農業部過去的養豬效益,在1996年我們的豬價每公斤58元,出口當時每公斤是豬肉152元。\n\n09:00.948 --> 09:21.806\n二〇二一年我們不能出口但是我們每公斤價格提升了七十六點七就在這時候我看日本各國輸入日本的這個價格是不高於每公斤一百五十塊的所以你這樣台灣在今年七月一號這個解除台灣口蹄疫的疫區限制台灣的\n\n09:23.107 --> 09:39.024\n豬肉的優勢已經不在了當我的豬價1996年每公斤是58我提升到2021年的每公斤76.7但是日本進口日本的價格有沒有變沒變那你說我們怎麼可能有競爭力下面兩個圖這個參考\n\n09:40.686 --> 09:45.109\n好,走過狗敵意之後我們如何強化養豬的產業競爭力提升我國豬隻跟豬隻產品競爭力開啟國際市場的新契機為當務之急本席要講的是在今天講到國際合作如果我們台灣的種族只要導入AI而且用AI來做基因定序來存化品種它一定有一個特色耐思、耐熱\n\n10:06.064 --> 10:06.084\n發言員：\n\n10:25.408 --> 10:31.250\n主席不好意思再給我一分鐘了那我就再批評一下農業部好了請你們看PIG333全世界的這個這個國際豬連國外都把我們的豬分析出來我們豬為什麼貴我們的飼料成本貴所以我們美國你看這是全世界成本每公斤豬肉成本生產最高的是台灣去看看這個期刊\n\n10:53.297 --> 11:03.343\n好那產業政策沒有就算了本席主張由國營事業台塘開始展開我國的豬隻經營地序藉由國營事業的競爭力提升刺激整體豬隻的續產第二個比照台塘東海豐東海豐你們只做什麼你們做人員政策不是做產業政策你們用了這個早期他的人他的豬的\n\n11:16.812 --> 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26%；英國是每頭豬增加35%的遺傳增進率，減碳10%，這不是講養豬的環境，這部分等一下我後面會講。","在養豬本身，英國說2050年要減碳80%，這當中的技術在哪裡？為什麼它能夠增加豬的生產效率？為什麼它能夠做到豬本身生產的減碳？它做到了飼料換肉率的提高；做到了食性好的種源；在品種的挑選上，做到了體型佳種源的篩選，所以才能夠達成縮短飼育週期的目標，養的期間短，而且每個飼料都可以高單位的吸收，能夠吃少而且養肉快，這樣的品種又愛吃，食慾又很好，當然牠長肉就會快，所以本席認為，今天我們的養豬國家隊如果真的要立足臺灣、放眼全球，再次的拓展國際市場，全基因體AI育種，整個全部的基因定序，然後我們的AI育種才有可能永續增值、重返光榮，這才會達成我們的糧食安全、環境永續、整體健康，我講的整體健康是豬健康、人健康及環境健康。","再來，這是一件多麼美好的事情，但這是民間自主來做，就是臺灣特色農業的榮耀，找回美味的種源。黑豬肉是臺灣人的味、是臺灣人的飲食印象，但是基因不純使得臺灣市場上的黑豬存在三個問題，第一個，外表性狀差異大；第二個，生長效率不一；第三個，品質規格不易控管，所以我們當然很難走向高品質的國際市場，這家民間公司透過基因定序的技術，找回了臺灣原生種黑豬的DNA種源，成為我們初始的目標。","牠就命名為平埔黑豬，這是由春發成畜牧場與臺大動科系、畜產試驗所，在此要給我們畜產試驗所獎勵一下，然後還有屏科大等多個教育、政府單位共同合作，經過15年成功選育出的品種，這是臺灣首個民間自行育種，而且是基因定序育種並取得品種認證，這個很重要，而且讓人很驕傲，我們有自己的品種權，像台糖今年10月花了4個億，進口了1,000頭豬，種源全部都是進口的，難道臺灣沒有辦法自己產生嗎？當然有，我們民間做出來了！","這樣的豬種有什麼好處？牠能夠適應臺灣亞熱帶氣候，且肉質與伊比利豬不相上下，伊比利豬是世界最好的豬，算是數一數二的。再來，其嫩度、甜度優於市售白豬，包含進口豬的部分。","接著看國產豬的過去跟現在，過去1997年口蹄疫爆發之前，我國出口日本20萬公噸以上的豬肉。主席，不好意思，讓本席再多一些時間來闡述。"],["主席：1分鐘，好不好？"],["林委員岱樺：好，1分鐘，謝謝。就農業部過去的養豬效益，1996年我們豬價每公斤58元，當時出口日本每公斤豬肉是152元；2021年我們不能出口，但是我們每公斤價格提升到76.7元，就在這個時候，各國輸入日本的價格並不高於每公斤150塊；臺灣在今年7月1號解除臺灣口蹄疫疫區限制，但臺灣豬肉的優勢已經不再了，當我的豬價從1996年每公斤58元提升到2021年的每公斤76.7元，但是進口日本的價格有沒有變？沒變！那你說我們怎麼可能有競爭力？","走過口蹄疫之後，我們如何強化養豬的產業競爭力？提升我國豬隻跟豬肉產品競爭力，開啟國際合作新契機為當務之急。本席要講的是，今天講到國際合作，如果我們臺灣種豬能夠導入AI，而且用AI來做基因定序、純化品種，它一定有一個特色，耐濕、耐熱，我們是亞熱帶，當然豬有個特性，冬天很難生長，但我們卻有辦法在亞熱帶養並出口到熱帶國家，像泰國、柬埔寨、越南……"],["主席：好，謝謝。"],["林委員岱樺：主席，不好意思，再給我1分鐘。"],["主席：林委員，這個不能再延長，因為有3位委員在等。"],["林委員岱樺：好，我就再批評一下農業部好了，請你們看一下pig333，連國外都把我們的豬給分析出來，即我們的豬價為什麼貴？我們的飼料成本貴……"],["主席：林委員，發言時間到了。"],["林委員岱樺：你看這是全世界的成本，每公斤豬肉生產成本最高的就是臺灣！請去看看這個期刊。","好，產業政策沒有就算了。本席主張，第一個，由國營事業台糖開始，展開我國的豬隻基因定序，藉由國營事業的競爭力提升，刺激整體豬隻畜產產業升級。第二個，比照台糖東海豐計畫，東海豐你們只做什麼？你們只做能源政策，不是做產業政策……"],["主席：林委員，時間超出很多了。"],["林委員岱樺：他們用豬的排泄物來做沼氣發電，這叫做能源政策，不是農業政策，所以部長，針對本席的建議，是不是1個月內提供本席相關資料？"],["陳部長駿季：有關於數位育種的部分，我們會在1個月內提供，但是國營事業台糖是經濟部所管，不是農業部所管……"],["林委員岱樺：你們要協調啊！"],["陳部長駿季：我們會一起來協助。"],["林委員岱樺：他們那個花了六個多億，哪一個民間農業可以花六個多億來處理那個水簾的問題？所以部長太落伍了，請你支持我們卓院長的AI內閣。"],["主席：好，謝謝，官員請回座。","請邱議瑩委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":132,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-19-14","speakers":["邱志偉","林岱樺","邱議瑩","鄭正鈐","陳亭妃","謝衣鳯","張啓楷","鄭天財Sra 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