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00:00:05,162\n謝謝謝謝主席呃莊部長是不是請財政部莊部長來請財政部的莊部長請\n\n2\n00:00:10,919 --> 00:00:36,977\n委員長部長你好我請教因為內政部長劉世芳在內政委員會答詢時說新清安編列財源來自住宅基金而新清安政策是影響移轉動數重大的因素可能影響房價的升高劉部長表示要尊重主責的財政部\n\n3\n00:00:37,637 --> 00:00:58,715\n那中央銀行的抗瓦內政部配合政策編列預算那我請問部長在新青安整個政策中財政部負責哪些區塊的業務跟委員報告有關新青安的推動事實上是主要是我們由八家公股行庫來主辦\n\n4\n00:00:59,977 --> 00:01:16,856\n那因應這個因應這個央行升息為了減輕首購族的一個房屋的貸款的一個負擔所以我們的公股行庫是自行吸收半碼是由我們行庫自行吸收那後來央行又在升息以後就由住宅基金\n\n5\n00:01:19,164 --> 00:01:45,423\n來補貼這個升息的部分大概有一碼半的一個利息支出所以是這個部分是由住宅基金支出那另外有半碼是由公股行庫自行吸收這主要是這樣的一個情況那另外新金安這個清安貸款事實上從99年的時候就是由財政部來規劃以後推出的那在112年的8月的時候因為配合整個因為房價的一個調整以及協助\n\n6\n00:01:45,863 --> 00:01:52,553\n沒有房屋的需要的自住的一個購屋需要所以推出了新清安主要是那我請問部長這些區塊業務的執行督導又分別是財政部的哪些單位或這個機關來負責\n\n7\n00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:18,060\n這個業務主要是因為是供股行庫所以在部內是由國庫署來做導導那實際執行是在供股行庫那供股行庫在對於有關規範這個貸款的時候他必須按照央行還有金管會的相關所以及銀行公會的所有的規範來做核貸\n\n8\n00:02:19,881 --> 00:02:43,975\n部長對於外界質疑新清安政策的買賣移轉動數直接推升房價那我請問部長你認為新清安貸款是不是房價居高不下的元兇是嗎房價變動或升上漲其實因素很多當然因為新清安的推出讓那個沒有房屋的他想要買房子的一個\n\n9\n00:02:44,602 --> 00:02:50,344\n11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、\n\n10\n00:03:12,453 --> 00:03:30,534\n還有料整個上漲才推升它上漲的主要我說不是主要就是說因素很多因素包含這個預期心理包含原物料獲得工資等等它的成本上漲還有資金成本因素很多不是只有一個單一的因素\n\n11\n00:03:30,814 --> 00:03:54,177\n那你認為政府有沒有必要我們針對這些來調整一些政策重新檢討新清安那個新清安整個貸款額度利息補貼以及補貼時程以便儘速讓過熱的房市冷卻下來你認為有沒有必要新清安推出以後第一個我們已經又在做了進一步的調整也就是在我們\n\n12\n00:03:55,078 --> 00:04:18,949\n限於只貸一次應該是從9月吧9月開始就只限貸一次也就6月27日開始限貸一次也就是說你用了一次以後就不能再用你要珍惜使用這個新清安就是這個部分那另外呢也請公股航庫能夠加強的貸錢的審核強化貸錢審核以及貸後的管理第二個就新清安是幫助沒有自有住宅的人去買\n\n13\n00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:49,032\n但是不能讓他買了以後就是想要去做投機投資所以只能限一次而且對於出租或用人頭戶加強檢核加強檢核那個部長是央行祭出第7波的選擇性信用管制出重拳來抑制房市的熱度那行政院卓院長表示此項政策不是打房而是打炒房要維護一般民眾居住所需的最基本條件希望對房市有正面的發展\n\n14\n00:04:49,693 --> 00:05:07,795\n那部長第一波推出之後持續不斷至今已經到了第7波那我請問部長對於幾波下來的選擇性信用管制政策在回歸合理房價的效果上到底是民眾是有感還是無感呢?\n\n15\n00:05:09,257 --> 00:05:21,732\n央行的一波一波推出有關所謂選擇性信用管制他也是看市場的一個整個情況來做事實的一個推出那第7波信用管制事實上把適用的範圍擴及到全國\n\n16\n00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:23,550\n部長﹖\n\n17\n00:05:47,316 --> 00:06:08,174\n央行第7波管制措施媒體轉述對房產相關業者衝擊很大甚至於憂心恐怕殃及無辜所以央行提出一些排出性的條款那我請問部長第7波力道加大的信用管制措施你認為會不會有引發房貸市場斷頭潮的這些疑慮\n\n18\n00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:26,837\n會不會?對於央行第7波管制以後那個對於有些怕央級無辜央行也做了部分比如說繼承取得的或換屋的等等做了有一些比較例外性的一些規定而且給一些緩衝期間\n\n19\n00:06:28,274 --> 00:06:43,792\n那至於所謂的斷頭的話那我想這個成構者自己就是說對於做槓桿的部分他有點過度了才會有產生斷頭部長對於財政部所屬的公股航庫房貸業務的推動會不會打折扣啊\n\n20\n00:06:45,255 --> 00:06:59,129\n防貸業務其實第一個有銀行法72條之二的一個上限的規定那我們各個公股、航庫都必須要遵守除了這個30%這個限額之外呢他們自己也有一條警戒線是低於30%大概在28.5之間\n\n21\n00:07:01,711 --> 00:07:01,731\n部長\n\n22\n00:07:31,448 --> 00:08:00,647\n央行的楊總裁表示實施第7波選擇性的信用管制措施主要是看到房價一直上漲在之前央行也對國營總量管制進行道德勸說剛剛陳如剛剛部長所提的銀行法第72條之2規範銀行所承作的土建農以及房貸業務總換款量不得超過存款\n\n23\n00:08:01,668 --> 00:08:27,114\n和金融債券總額的百分之三十但八家公股行庫就有五家不動產換款的比例超過百分之二十八那我請問部長你認為公股行庫是不是黃價上漲推手之一?這樣子央郎之所以會有所謂道德勸說等等就是第一個是要穩定金融市場\n\n24\n00:08:27,794 --> 00:08:31,756\n也就是說避免銀行的信用的資金過度的流向流向不動產那排擠到其他產業的需要所以希望各行庫要特別注意這一點那各個行庫呢因為央行的道德勸說以及院長也提出來應該要做這個額度的控管也就是說對於需要的應該要優先帶給他比如說收購組織要優先帶給他\n\n25\n00:08:52,284 --> 00:09:17,515\n那避免集中到過度集中在那個大額的一個承貸戶（但是本席認為說公股房顧負責政策目的又要經營獲利那我請問部長政府既是裁判又兼求援的身分難道不應該對政策執行所產生的一些瑕疵負責嗎?你認為呢?我想政策是因應時勢來做一些\n\n26\n00:09:18,175 --> 00:09:43,600\n推出那當然也要因應時事來做一些調整或精進這都是需要的是部長財政部所屬公股行庫以經營不動場這個貸換獲利那金融業的這個營業稅稅收啊也歸財政部來課徵那我請問部長央行楊總裁有沒有對財政部進行道德勸說你認為有沒有\n\n27\n00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:53,225\n他對財政部不是用我們彼此之間都是政府團隊的議員大家彼此都應該要合作\n\n28\n00:09:54,266 --> 00:10:19,427\n所以說在這個整個管制政策執行和公股行庫獲利以稅收考量下部長你認為能夠找得到平衡點嗎當然公股行庫不管做在金融業務上面都必須要遵守央行金管會以及銀行公會所有的規範這是一定要做的部長114年度稅客收入編列2.77兆元創歷史的新高\n\n29\n00:10:22,469 --> 00:10:50,977\n而且比113年度預算成長19.88%那我請問部長明年稅客收入的預算數字是不是一定能夠反映在明年整個經濟成長稅率上面成長率上面我們在編稅客收入的時候是有各種因素在討論那經濟成長是其中的一個參考因子當然還有其他稅制的調整以及各個稅務它的一個特性來做編列的\n\n30\n00:10:52,253 --> 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請\n10919\t36977\t委員長部長你好我請教因為內政部長劉世芳在內政委員會答詢時說新清安編列財源來自住宅基金而新清安政策是影響移轉動數重大的因素可能影響房價的升高劉部長表示要尊重主責的財政部\n37637\t58715\t那中央銀行的抗瓦內政部配合政策編列預算那我請問部長在新青安整個政策中財政部負責哪些區塊的業務跟委員報告有關新青安的推動事實上是主要是我們由八家公股行庫來主辦\n59977\t76856\t那因應這個因應這個央行升息為了減輕首購族的一個房屋的貸款的一個負擔所以我們的公股行庫是自行吸收半碼是由我們行庫自行吸收那後來央行又在升息以後就由住宅基金\n79164\t105423\t來補貼這個升息的部分大概有一碼半的一個利息支出所以是這個部分是由住宅基金支出那另外有半碼是由公股行庫自行吸收這主要是這樣的一個情況那另外新金安這個清安貸款事實上從99年的時候就是由財政部來規劃以後推出的那在112年的8月的時候因為配合整個因為房價的一個調整以及協助\n105863\t112553\t沒有房屋的需要的自住的一個購屋需要所以推出了新清安主要是那我請問部長這些區塊業務的執行督導又分別是財政部的哪些單位或這個機關來負責\n122373\t138060\t這個業務主要是因為是供股行庫所以在部內是由國庫署來做導導那實際執行是在供股行庫那供股行庫在對於有關規範這個貸款的時候他必須按照央行還有金管會的相關所以及銀行公會的所有的規範來做核貸\n139881\t163975\t部長對於外界質疑新清安政策的買賣移轉動數直接推升房價那我請問部長你認為新清安貸款是不是房價居高不下的元兇是嗎房價變動或升上漲其實因素很多當然因為新清安的推出讓那個沒有房屋的他想要買房子的一個\n164602\t170344\t11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、\n192453\t210534\t還有料整個上漲才推升它上漲的主要我說不是主要就是說因素很多因素包含這個預期心理包含原物料獲得工資等等它的成本上漲還有資金成本因素很多不是只有一個單一的因素\n210814\t234177\t那你認為政府有沒有必要我們針對這些來調整一些政策重新檢討新清安那個新清安整個貸款額度利息補貼以及補貼時程以便儘速讓過熱的房市冷卻下來你認為有沒有必要新清安推出以後第一個我們已經又在做了進一步的調整也就是在我們\n235078\t258949\t限於只貸一次應該是從9月吧9月開始就只限貸一次也就6月27日開始限貸一次也就是說你用了一次以後就不能再用你要珍惜使用這個新清安就是這個部分那另外呢也請公股航庫能夠加強的貸錢的審核強化貸錢審核以及貸後的管理第二個就新清安是幫助沒有自有住宅的人去買\n259529\t289032\t但是不能讓他買了以後就是想要去做投機投資所以只能限一次而且對於出租或用人頭戶加強檢核加強檢核那個部長是央行祭出第7波的選擇性信用管制出重拳來抑制房市的熱度那行政院卓院長表示此項政策不是打房而是打炒房要維護一般民眾居住所需的最基本條件希望對房市有正面的發展\n289693\t307795\t那部長第一波推出之後持續不斷至今已經到了第7波那我請問部長對於幾波下來的選擇性信用管制政策在回歸合理房價的效果上到底是民眾是有感還是無感呢?\n309257\t321732\t央行的一波一波推出有關所謂選擇性信用管制他也是看市場的一個整個情況來做事實的一個推出那第7波信用管制事實上把適用的範圍擴及到全國\n323530\t323550\t部長﹖\n347316\t368174\t央行第7波管制措施媒體轉述對房產相關業者衝擊很大甚至於憂心恐怕殃及無辜所以央行提出一些排出性的條款那我請問部長第7波力道加大的信用管制措施你認為會不會有引發房貸市場斷頭潮的這些疑慮\n373539\t386837\t會不會?對於央行第7波管制以後那個對於有些怕央級無辜央行也做了部分比如說繼承取得的或換屋的等等做了有一些比較例外性的一些規定而且給一些緩衝期間\n388274\t403792\t那至於所謂的斷頭的話那我想這個成構者自己就是說對於做槓桿的部分他有點過度了才會有產生斷頭部長對於財政部所屬的公股航庫房貸業務的推動會不會打折扣啊\n405255\t419129\t防貸業務其實第一個有銀行法72條之二的一個上限的規定那我們各個公股、航庫都必須要遵守除了這個30%這個限額之外呢他們自己也有一條警戒線是低於30%大概在28.5之間\n421711\t421731\t部長\n451448\t480647\t央行的楊總裁表示實施第7波選擇性的信用管制措施主要是看到房價一直上漲在之前央行也對國營總量管制進行道德勸說剛剛陳如剛剛部長所提的銀行法第72條之2規範銀行所承作的土建農以及房貸業務總換款量不得超過存款\n481668\t507114\t和金融債券總額的百分之三十但八家公股行庫就有五家不動產換款的比例超過百分之二十八那我請問部長你認為公股行庫是不是黃價上漲推手之一?這樣子央郎之所以會有所謂道德勸說等等就是第一個是要穩定金融市場\n507794\t511756\t也就是說避免銀行的信用的資金過度的流向流向不動產那排擠到其他產業的需要所以希望各行庫要特別注意這一點那各個行庫呢因為央行的道德勸說以及院長也提出來應該要做這個額度的控管也就是說對於需要的應該要優先帶給他比如說收購組織要優先帶給他\n532284\t557515\t那避免集中到過度集中在那個大額的一個承貸戶（但是本席認為說公股房顧負責政策目的又要經營獲利那我請問部長政府既是裁判又兼求援的身分難道不應該對政策執行所產生的一些瑕疵負責嗎?你認為呢?我想政策是因應時勢來做一些\n558175\t583600\t推出那當然也要因應時事來做一些調整或精進這都是需要的是部長財政部所屬公股行庫以經營不動場這個貸換獲利那金融業的這個營業稅稅收啊也歸財政部來課徵那我請問部長央行楊總裁有沒有對財政部進行道德勸說你認為有沒有\n585885\t593225\t他對財政部不是用我們彼此之間都是政府團隊的議員大家彼此都應該要合作\n594266\t619427\t所以說在這個整個管制政策執行和公股行庫獲利以稅收考量下部長你認為能夠找得到平衡點嗎當然公股行庫不管做在金融業務上面都必須要遵守央行金管會以及銀行公會所有的規範這是一定要做的部長114年度稅客收入編列2.77兆元創歷史的新高\n622469\t650977\t而且比113年度預算成長19.88%那我請問部長明年稅客收入的預算數字是不是一定能夠反映在明年整個經濟成長稅率上面成長率上面我們在編稅客收入的時候是有各種因素在討論那經濟成長是其中的一個參考因子當然還有其他稅制的調整以及各個稅務它的一個特性來做編列的\n652253\t666901\t換句話說若實在經濟成長上是不是代表明年景氣應該比今年會更好其實是財政部有沒有預估過明年第一季到第四季的整個景氣狀況\n669763\t686498\t根據主計總署的一個預算的推估明年的經濟成長率是3.26%這個是我們要參考的一數那至於明年的一個經濟我想委員你也很清楚國際政經情勢的變化是很快所以\n687029\t687129\t請吳秉瑞委員質詢\n","txt":"謝謝 謝謝主席 呃 莊部長 是不是請財政部莊部長來 請財政部的莊部長 請\n委員長部長你好我請教因為內政部長劉世芳在內政委員會答詢時說新清安編列財源來自住宅基金而新清安政策是影響移轉動數重大的因素可能影響房價的升高劉部長表示要尊重主責的財政部\n那中央銀行的抗瓦內政部配合政策編列預算那我請問部長在新青安整個政策中財政部負責哪些區塊的業務跟委員報告有關新青安的推動事實上是主要是我們由八家公股行庫來主辦\n那因應這個因應這個央行升息為了減輕首購族的一個房屋的貸款的一個負擔所以我們的公股行庫是自行吸收半碼是由我們行庫自行吸收那後來央行又在升息以後就由住宅基金\n來補貼這個升息的部分大概有一碼半的一個利息支出所以是這個部分是由住宅基金支出那另外有半碼是由公股行庫自行吸收這主要是這樣的一個情況那另外新金安這個清安貸款事實上從99年的時候就是由財政部來規劃以後推出的那在112年的8月的時候因為配合整個因為房價的一個調整以及協助\n沒有房屋的需要的自住的一個購屋需要所以推出了新清安主要是那我請問部長這些區塊業務的執行督導又分別是財政部的哪些單位或這個機關來負責\n這個業務主要是因為是供股行庫所以在部內是由國庫署來做導導那實際執行是在供股行庫那供股行庫在對於有關規範這個貸款的時候他必須按照央行還有金管會的相關所以及銀行公會的所有的規範來做核貸\n部長對於外界質疑新清安政策的買賣移轉動數直接推升房價那我請問部長你認為新清安貸款是不是房價居高不下的元兇是嗎房價變動或升上漲其實因素很多當然因為新清安的推出讓那個沒有房屋的他想要買房子的一個\n11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、\n還有料整個上漲才推升它上漲的主要我說不是主要就是說因素很多因素包含這個預期心理包含原物料獲得工資等等它的成本上漲還有資金成本因素很多不是只有一個單一的因素\n那你認為政府有沒有必要我們針對這些來調整一些政策重新檢討新清安那個新清安整個貸款額度利息補貼以及補貼時程以便儘速讓過熱的房市冷卻下來你認為有沒有必要新清安推出以後第一個我們已經又在做了進一步的調整也就是在我們\n限於只貸一次應該是從9月吧9月開始就只限貸一次也就6月27日開始限貸一次也就是說你用了一次以後就不能再用你要珍惜使用這個新清安就是這個部分那另外呢也請公股航庫能夠加強的貸錢的審核強化貸錢審核以及貸後的管理第二個就新清安是幫助沒有自有住宅的人去買\n但是不能讓他買了以後就是想要去做投機投資所以只能限一次而且對於出租或用人頭戶加強檢核加強檢核那個部長是央行祭出第7波的選擇性信用管制出重拳來抑制房市的熱度那行政院卓院長表示此項政策不是打房而是打炒房要維護一般民眾居住所需的最基本條件希望對房市有正面的發展\n那部長第一波推出之後持續不斷至今已經到了第7波那我請問部長對於幾波下來的選擇性信用管制政策在回歸合理房價的效果上到底是民眾是有感還是無感呢?\n央行的一波一波推出有關所謂選擇性信用管制他也是看市場的一個整個情況來做事實的一個推出那第7波信用管制事實上把適用的範圍擴及到全國\n部長﹖\n央行第7波管制措施媒體轉述對房產相關業者衝擊很大甚至於憂心恐怕殃及無辜所以央行提出一些排出性的條款那我請問部長第7波力道加大的信用管制措施你認為會不會有引發房貸市場斷頭潮的這些疑慮\n會不會?對於央行第7波管制以後那個對於有些怕央級無辜央行也做了部分比如說繼承取得的或換屋的等等做了有一些比較例外性的一些規定而且給一些緩衝期間\n那至於所謂的斷頭的話那我想這個成構者自己就是說對於做槓桿的部分他有點過度了才會有產生斷頭部長對於財政部所屬的公股航庫房貸業務的推動會不會打折扣啊\n防貸業務其實第一個有銀行法72條之二的一個上限的規定那我們各個公股、航庫都必須要遵守除了這個30%這個限額之外呢他們自己也有一條警戒線是低於30%大概在28.5之間\n部長\n央行的楊總裁表示實施第7波選擇性的信用管制措施主要是看到房價一直上漲在之前央行也對國營總量管制進行道德勸說剛剛陳如剛剛部長所提的銀行法第72條之2規範銀行所承作的土建農以及房貸業務總換款量不得超過存款\n和金融債券總額的百分之三十但八家公股行庫就有五家不動產換款的比例超過百分之二十八那我請問部長你認為公股行庫是不是黃價上漲推手之一?這樣子央郎之所以會有所謂道德勸說等等就是第一個是要穩定金融市場\n也就是說避免銀行的信用的資金過度的流向流向不動產那排擠到其他產業的需要所以希望各行庫要特別注意這一點那各個行庫呢因為央行的道德勸說以及院長也提出來應該要做這個額度的控管也就是說對於需要的應該要優先帶給他比如說收購組織要優先帶給他\n那避免集中到過度集中在那個大額的一個承貸戶（但是本席認為說公股房顧負責政策目的又要經營獲利那我請問部長政府既是裁判又兼求援的身分難道不應該對政策執行所產生的一些瑕疵負責嗎?你認為呢?我想政策是因應時勢來做一些\n推出那當然也要因應時事來做一些調整或精進這都是需要的是部長財政部所屬公股行庫以經營不動場這個貸換獲利那金融業的這個營業稅稅收啊也歸財政部來課徵那我請問部長央行楊總裁有沒有對財政部進行道德勸說你認為有沒有\n他對財政部不是用我們彼此之間都是政府團隊的議員大家彼此都應該要合作\n所以說在這個整個管制政策執行和公股行庫獲利以稅收考量下部長你認為能夠找得到平衡點嗎當然公股行庫不管做在金融業務上面都必須要遵守央行金管會以及銀行公會所有的規範這是一定要做的部長114年度稅客收入編列2.77兆元創歷史的新高\n而且比113年度預算成長19.88%那我請問部長明年稅客收入的預算數字是不是一定能夠反映在明年整個經濟成長稅率上面成長率上面我們在編稅客收入的時候是有各種因素在討論那經濟成長是其中的一個參考因子當然還有其他稅制的調整以及各個稅務它的一個特性來做編列的\n換句話說若實在經濟成長上是不是代表明年景氣應該比今年會更好其實是財政部有沒有預估過明年第一季到第四季的整個景氣狀況\n根據主計總署的一個預算的推估明年的經濟成長率是3.26%這個是我們要參考的一數那至於明年的一個經濟我想委員你也很清楚國際政經情勢的變化是很快所以\n請吳秉瑞委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.991 --> 00:05.162\n謝謝謝謝主席呃莊部長是不是請財政部莊部長來請財政部的莊部長請\n\n00:10.919 --> 00:36.977\n委員長部長你好我請教因為內政部長劉世芳在內政委員會答詢時說新清安編列財源來自住宅基金而新清安政策是影響移轉動數重大的因素可能影響房價的升高劉部長表示要尊重主責的財政部\n\n00:37.637 --> 00:58.715\n那中央銀行的抗瓦內政部配合政策編列預算那我請問部長在新青安整個政策中財政部負責哪些區塊的業務跟委員報告有關新青安的推動事實上是主要是我們由八家公股行庫來主辦\n\n00:59.977 --> 01:16.856\n那因應這個因應這個央行升息為了減輕首購族的一個房屋的貸款的一個負擔所以我們的公股行庫是自行吸收半碼是由我們行庫自行吸收那後來央行又在升息以後就由住宅基金\n\n01:19.164 --> 01:45.423\n來補貼這個升息的部分大概有一碼半的一個利息支出所以是這個部分是由住宅基金支出那另外有半碼是由公股行庫自行吸收這主要是這樣的一個情況那另外新金安這個清安貸款事實上從99年的時候就是由財政部來規劃以後推出的那在112年的8月的時候因為配合整個因為房價的一個調整以及協助\n\n01:45.863 --> 01:52.553\n沒有房屋的需要的自住的一個購屋需要所以推出了新清安主要是那我請問部長這些區塊業務的執行督導又分別是財政部的哪些單位或這個機關來負責\n\n02:02.373 --> 02:18.060\n這個業務主要是因為是供股行庫所以在部內是由國庫署來做導導那實際執行是在供股行庫那供股行庫在對於有關規範這個貸款的時候他必須按照央行還有金管會的相關所以及銀行公會的所有的規範來做核貸\n\n02:19.881 --> 02:43.975\n部長對於外界質疑新清安政策的買賣移轉動數直接推升房價那我請問部長你認為新清安貸款是不是房價居高不下的元兇是嗎房價變動或升上漲其實因素很多當然因為新清安的推出讓那個沒有房屋的他想要買房子的一個\n\n02:44.602 --> 02:50.344\n11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、11月2、\n\n03:12.453 --> 03:30.534\n還有料整個上漲才推升它上漲的主要我說不是主要就是說因素很多因素包含這個預期心理包含原物料獲得工資等等它的成本上漲還有資金成本因素很多不是只有一個單一的因素\n\n03:30.814 --> 03:54.177\n那你認為政府有沒有必要我們針對這些來調整一些政策重新檢討新清安那個新清安整個貸款額度利息補貼以及補貼時程以便儘速讓過熱的房市冷卻下來你認為有沒有必要新清安推出以後第一個我們已經又在做了進一步的調整也就是在我們\n\n03:55.078 --> 04:18.949\n限於只貸一次應該是從9月吧9月開始就只限貸一次也就6月27日開始限貸一次也就是說你用了一次以後就不能再用你要珍惜使用這個新清安就是這個部分那另外呢也請公股航庫能夠加強的貸錢的審核強化貸錢審核以及貸後的管理第二個就新清安是幫助沒有自有住宅的人去買\n\n04:19.529 --> 04:49.032\n但是不能讓他買了以後就是想要去做投機投資所以只能限一次而且對於出租或用人頭戶加強檢核加強檢核那個部長是央行祭出第7波的選擇性信用管制出重拳來抑制房市的熱度那行政院卓院長表示此項政策不是打房而是打炒房要維護一般民眾居住所需的最基本條件希望對房市有正面的發展\n\n04:49.693 --> 05:07.795\n那部長第一波推出之後持續不斷至今已經到了第7波那我請問部長對於幾波下來的選擇性信用管制政策在回歸合理房價的效果上到底是民眾是有感還是無感呢?\n\n05:09.257 --> 05:21.732\n央行的一波一波推出有關所謂選擇性信用管制他也是看市場的一個整個情況來做事實的一個推出那第7波信用管制事實上把適用的範圍擴及到全國\n\n05:23.530 --> 05:23.550\n部長﹖\n\n05:47.316 --> 06:08.174\n央行第7波管制措施媒體轉述對房產相關業者衝擊很大甚至於憂心恐怕殃及無辜所以央行提出一些排出性的條款那我請問部長第7波力道加大的信用管制措施你認為會不會有引發房貸市場斷頭潮的這些疑慮\n\n06:13.539 --> 06:26.837\n會不會?對於央行第7波管制以後那個對於有些怕央級無辜央行也做了部分比如說繼承取得的或換屋的等等做了有一些比較例外性的一些規定而且給一些緩衝期間\n\n06:28.274 --> 06:43.792\n那至於所謂的斷頭的話那我想這個成構者自己就是說對於做槓桿的部分他有點過度了才會有產生斷頭部長對於財政部所屬的公股航庫房貸業務的推動會不會打折扣啊\n\n06:45.255 --> 06:59.129\n防貸業務其實第一個有銀行法72條之二的一個上限的規定那我們各個公股、航庫都必須要遵守除了這個30%這個限額之外呢他們自己也有一條警戒線是低於30%大概在28.5之間\n\n07:01.711 --> 07:01.731\n部長\n\n07:31.448 --> 08:00.647\n央行的楊總裁表示實施第7波選擇性的信用管制措施主要是看到房價一直上漲在之前央行也對國營總量管制進行道德勸說剛剛陳如剛剛部長所提的銀行法第72條之2規範銀行所承作的土建農以及房貸業務總換款量不得超過存款\n\n08:01.668 --> 08:27.114\n和金融債券總額的百分之三十但八家公股行庫就有五家不動產換款的比例超過百分之二十八那我請問部長你認為公股行庫是不是黃價上漲推手之一?這樣子央郎之所以會有所謂道德勸說等等就是第一個是要穩定金融市場\n\n08:27.794 --> 08:31.756\n也就是說避免銀行的信用的資金過度的流向流向不動產那排擠到其他產業的需要所以希望各行庫要特別注意這一點那各個行庫呢因為央行的道德勸說以及院長也提出來應該要做這個額度的控管也就是說對於需要的應該要優先帶給他比如說收購組織要優先帶給他\n\n08:52.284 --> 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多，而因素包含預期心理，包含原物料或工資導致成本上漲，還有資金成本，因素很多，不是只有單一一個因素。"],["林委員德福：你認為政府有沒有必要針對這些來調整政策，重新檢討有關新青安的貸款額度、利息補貼以及補貼時程，以便儘速讓過熱的房市冷卻下來，有沒有必要？"],["莊部長翠雲：新青安推出以後，第一，我們又再做了進一步的調整，也就是限於只貸一次，應該是從6月27日開始限貸一次。換句話說，用了一次以後就不能再用，所以要珍惜使用新青安。另外，也請公股行庫加強貸前的審核，即強化貸前審核及貸後管理。第二，新青安是幫助沒有自有住宅的人去買……"],["林委員德福：我知道啊！"],["莊部長翠雲：但不能買了以後就想投機、投資，所以只能限一次，而且對於出租或用人頭戶者加強檢核。"],["林委員德福：部長，央行祭出第七波的選擇性信用管制，出重拳來抑制房市熱度。行政院卓院長表示，此項政策不是打房而是打炒房，要維護一般民眾居住所需的最基本條件，希望房市能有正面發展。但從第一波推出之後持續不斷，至今已經到了第七波，所以我請問部長，對於幾波下來的選擇性信用管制政策，在回歸合理房價的效果上，依你看民眾到底是有感還是無感？"],["莊部長翠雲：央行一波一波推出選擇性信用管制，也是看市場的情況做適時推出。第七波信用管制事實上是把適用範圍擴及到全國，同時也擴大適用對象，所以我想央行在這部分是看市場的情況做滾動檢討，我相信這部分對於要炒作……因為房子是拿來使用、拿來居住的，而不是拿來作為炒作的工具，所以這部分必須要給予抑制。"],["林委員德福：部長，央行第七波的管制措施，媒體轉述對房產相關業者衝擊很大，甚至於憂心這恐怕會殃及無辜，所以央行提出一些排除性的條款，那我請問部長，第七波力道加大的信用管制措施，你認為會不會引發房貸市場斷頭潮的這些疑慮？會不會？"],["莊部長翠雲：央行在第七波管制以後，因為怕殃及無辜，央行也做了部分調整，比如說繼承取得的或換屋的等等，做了一些比較例外性的規定，而且給予一些緩衝期間。至於所謂斷頭的話，我想承購者自己對於槓桿操作的部分，應該是有點過度的才會產生斷頭。"],["林委員德福：部長，對於財政部所屬公股行庫房貸業務的推動，會不會打折扣？"],["莊部長翠雲：房貸業務，第一個有銀行法第七十二條之二上限的規定，我們各個公股行庫都必須要遵守，除了30%的限額之外，他們自己也有一條警戒線是低於30%，大概在28.5%之間。"],["林委員德福：對。"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分，只要觸及這個警戒線，他們就會去注意。另外，這一次院長也特別提示，應該對於首購族作為住宅使用的必須要優先辦理，避免過度集中在某一些大的貸款戶，這個部分都必須要做一些額度上的調控，讓需要買自住使用的貸款人，可以貸得到金額，這個是我們公股行庫要遵守去做的。"],["林委員德福：部長，央行的楊總裁表示，實施第七波選擇性的信用管制措施，主要是看到房價一直上漲，之前央行也對國銀總量管制進行道德勸說，誠如剛剛部長所提的銀行法第七十二條之二，規範銀行所承作的土建融以及房貸業務總放款量，不得超過存款和金融債券總額的30%。"],["莊部長翠雲：是、是、是。"],["林委員德福：但8家公股行庫就有5家不動產放款的比例超過28%，請問部長，你認為公股行庫是不是房價上漲的推手之一？是不是？"],["莊部長翠雲：央行之所以會有所謂道德勸說等等，第一個是要穩定金融市場，也就是說，避免銀行的信用資金過度的流向不動產，排擠到其他產業的需要，所以希望各行庫要特別注意這一點。"],["林委員德福：對。"],["莊部長翠雲：各行庫因為央行的道德勸說，以及院長也提出來應該要做額度的控管，也就是說，對於需要的，應該要優先貸給他，比如說首購族就要優先貸給他，避免過度集中在大額的承貸戶上面。"],["林委員德福：對，但是本席認為公股行庫負責政策目的又要經營獲利，那我請問部長，政府既是裁判又兼球員的身分，難道不應該對政策執行所產生的一些瑕疵負責嗎？你認為呢？"],["莊部長翠雲：我想政策是因應時勢來做一些推出，當然也要因應時勢來做一些調整或精進，這都是需要的。"],["林委員德福：部長，財政部所屬公股行庫以經營不動產貸放獲利，金融業的營業稅稅收也歸財政部來課徵，那我請問部長，央行楊總裁有沒有對財政部進行道德勸說？你認為有沒有？"],["莊部長翠雲：他對財政部不是用……我們彼此之間都是政府團隊的一員，大家彼此都應該要合作啊。"],["林委員德福：所以在整個管制政策執行和公股行庫獲利與稅收考量下，部長，你認為能夠找得到平衡點嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：當然，公股行庫不管做什麼，在金融業務上面都必須要遵守央行、金管會以及銀行公會所有的規範，這是一定要做的。"],["林委員德福：部長，114年度稅課收入編列2.77兆元，創歷史的新高，而且比113年度預算成長19.88%，那我請問部長，明年稅課收入的預算數字是不是一定能夠反映在明年整個經濟成長率上面？"],["莊部長翠雲：我們在編稅課收入的時候，是有各種因素在討論，經濟成長是其中的一個參考因子，當然還有其他稅制的調整，以及各個稅目的特性來做編列的。"],["林委員德福：換句話說，落實在經濟成長上，是不是代表明年景氣應該比今年會更好？其次，財政部有沒有預估過明年第一季到第四季的整個景氣狀況？有沒有？"],["莊部長翠雲：根據主計總處的推估，明年的經濟成長率是3.26%，這個是我們要參考的因素。至於明年的經濟，我想委員您也很清楚，國際政經情勢的變化是很快的，所以比如說主總也會按季調整它對相關經濟成長的展望跟預估數，這都是會做滾動性調整的。"],["林委員德福：好，因為我時間到了，其他問題我下次再問，謝謝。"],["莊部長翠雲：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝林委員的質詢。","下一位請吳秉叡委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":212,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-9","speakers":["陳玉珍","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","郭國文","賴惠員","王鴻薇","顏寬恒","李坤城","李彥秀","羅明才","鍾佳濱","黃珊珊","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","王世堅"],"page_start":133,"meetingDate":["2024-11-18"],"gazette_id":"11310101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310101_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第9次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關財政部賦稅署、臺北國稅局、高雄國稅局、北區國\n稅局及所屬、中區國稅局及所屬、南區國稅局及所屬、關務署及所屬、國有財產署及所屬歲出預\n算部分暨融資財源調度（僅詢答）","agenda_id":"11310101_00003"}}}