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00:01:40,131\n防疫非洲豬瘟禁止大家帶豬肉這些在機場的宣導等等這些都是在你們的所有的宣傳經費裡頭嗎那有沒有包含這個我們的農產品的行銷跟市場開拓的這些選擇這個也包括特別是我們現在在國外的時候我們希望說透過通路的一個確認在國外的行銷我們會更加大力道去處理\n\n6\n00:01:41,132 --> 00:01:57,597\n部長其實我覺得就是說如果單就預算數字上看起來其實你們跟去年是差不多但我覺得幾個重要的大項我認為農業部可能還要再說明不要讓人家說你們這是拿來做大內宣拿來買網軍其實農業部也不需要去買網軍\n\n7\n00:02:02,659 --> 00:02:28,784\n我們台灣的農產要外銷台灣的農產要開拓市場台灣的農產要宣傳甚至很多防疫的觀念要宣傳其實都是需要靠這個經費的我覺得這個部分農業部應該是可以去好好的去做一些宣傳就像我上次跟您提到台灣的優質米現在台灣的優質米已經賣到日本去了在日本的超市是可以買得到而且價格是比日本產的米是便宜兩成\n\n8\n00:02:29,684 --> 00:02:30,105\n部長您同意我的看法嗎?\n\n9\n00:02:44,804 --> 00:03:06,440\n我非常同意,特別是在國際行銷的部分,包括我們的U字的米的部分,上次也說過了明年度一月份日本會組團來針對米還有其他的農產品會做一個有契約性的採購,那我們希望透過這個能夠讓我們的國產的農產品銷到國外去。當然不只米啦,比如說像台灣的荔枝,\n\n10\n00:03:07,301 --> 00:03:12,444\n但是這個接下來要跟您請教的第二個問題就是我們一直很努力的在推農退除金退休除金的這個制度可是部長我們現在這樣子推了兩年多\n\n11\n00:03:28,695 --> 00:03:30,296\n我非常謝謝委員對這個議題的關心\n\n12\n00:03:57,512 --> 00:04:19,400\n因為這個三層本身我覺得第一個部分就是我們會精準的行銷特別是退休儲金的部分你越早去投保的時候你後續的時候退休也要領得越多可是部長很多年輕人第一個他不知道他能夠從農多久第二個他如果沒有收入他就沒有錢\n\n13\n00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:42,565\n有誘因去想要加入退休儲金制度所以你在這個誘因的部分有沒有可能再增加一些比如說從農的他已經在農會有這個農保資格的我們確認他從農的我們事先提撥一筆基金或者是提撥一筆預算在他的儲金帳戶裡頭然後也告訴他這個農退儲金其實\n\n14\n00:04:46,986 --> 00:05:04,792\n不用擔心未來可能會像勞保會破產等等或者是說把它列為其他的社會福利保險制度預算有沒有可能用多管齊下的方式去把一個這麼好的農退儲金制度讓他做一個加保的比例提升\n\n15\n00:05:05,692 --> 00:05:29,638\n有沒有考慮過其他的方式去提到?那個委員所提到這個部分我們也曾經在多內部討論那先到一些規定的部分就是說我預播一些能夠讓他覺得說他的一個帳戶裡面但是不是他可以用的是預播這個部分我們都在規劃那另外我們現在鎖定的對象是有一些已經從軍中退休的這些人這些人從過往的30幾%現在已經拉到60幾%了\n\n16\n00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:52,976\n所以我會說我們會從整個的一個從農的結構裡面去找到一些他不了解的地方我們會加強宣導讓他去然後也包括剛才委員所提到的我們有沒有可能用一些誘因讓他能夠更直接的加進來而不會擔心這個部分我想我們後續會來會來看看對我想\n\n17\n00:05:53,817 --> 00:06:19,616\n就算一個好的政策沒有人來參與沒有人來投入其實這個好的政策也都是枉然農退出金制度我們推了這麼久好不容易修法通過好不容易上路了那我覺得這個制度尤其是對於親農他們其實幫助是最大的未來到他年老退休的時候他其實就是有一筆固定的金額我覺得這個部分可能要請農業部再多加強一點力道\n\n18\n00:06:20,256 --> 00:06:20,396\n第三個問題\n\n19\n00:06:41,214 --> 00:06:59,458\n這個部長您大概知道你們的這個免登資材跟生物農藥的預算齁其實每一年都編的很少112年編了7000多萬到最後的總執行大概是10796萬那高雄市呢我高雄市大概只有分到837萬去113年呢\n\n20\n00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:04,520\n發言委員：\n\n21\n00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:25,149\n發言委員：\n\n22\n00:07:48,584 --> 00:08:17,879\n在年中的時候或者是說在你的預算裡頭你要如何去雲芝能夠把這個所謂的免登資材跟生物農藥的推廣的這件事情能夠讓它更廣泛的推行下去。我跟委員報告齁這個議題其實我們一直在跟房源房源組在討論喔是那114年9000多萬我相信明年度我會再用其他的經費去預注那因為免登資材生物農藥的部分是有機有膳的一個非常重要的\n\n23\n00:08:18,779 --> 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--> 00:00.209\n請農業部陳部長\n\n00:20.255 --> 00:48.201\n委員長部長早部長我今天有三個問題要請教第一個我想讓您回答一下這個國民黨的委員說你們這個宣傳的預算經費農業部是排名在前三名那這個是不是又要來搞大內宣可是我認真看了一下農業部的預算編列其實跟去年是一樣的都是1.4億也沒有特別增加那內政部大概是增加比較多所以\n\n00:49.142 --> 00:55.737\n部長我還是讓您簡單說明一下你們這個預算今年的這個行銷預算準備拿來做什麼?\n\n00:57.138 --> 01:17.792\n謝謝委員那我想我們的相關的媒宣的部分我們有幾個重點第一個重點就是說其實我們農業部門從山上的這些森林的防火的部分是需要不斷的去宣導以外那相關的這些病蟲害的防檢疫特別是疫病的部分從邊境從機場就像你們在宣導台灣的這個\n\n01:19.513 --> 01:40.131\n防疫非洲豬瘟禁止大家帶豬肉這些在機場的宣導等等這些都是在你們的所有的宣傳經費裡頭嗎那有沒有包含這個我們的農產品的行銷跟市場開拓的這些選擇這個也包括特別是我們現在在國外的時候我們希望說透過通路的一個確認在國外的行銷我們會更加大力道去處理\n\n01:41.132 --> 01:57.597\n部長其實我覺得就是說如果單就預算數字上看起來其實你們跟去年是差不多但我覺得幾個重要的大項我認為農業部可能還要再說明不要讓人家說你們這是拿來做大內宣拿來買網軍其實農業部也不需要去買網軍\n\n02:02.659 --> 02:28.784\n我們台灣的農產要外銷台灣的農產要開拓市場台灣的農產要宣傳甚至很多防疫的觀念要宣傳其實都是需要靠這個經費的我覺得這個部分農業部應該是可以去好好的去做一些宣傳就像我上次跟您提到台灣的優質米現在台灣的優質米已經賣到日本去了在日本的超市是可以買得到而且價格是比日本產的米是便宜兩成\n\n02:29.684 --> 02:30.105\n部長您同意我的看法嗎?\n\n02:44.804 --> 03:06.440\n我非常同意,特別是在國際行銷的部分,包括我們的U字的米的部分,上次也說過了明年度一月份日本會組團來針對米還有其他的農產品會做一個有契約性的採購,那我們希望透過這個能夠讓我們的國產的農產品銷到國外去。當然不只米啦,比如說像台灣的荔枝,\n\n03:07.301 --> 03:12.444\n但是這個接下來要跟您請教的第二個問題就是我們一直很努力的在推農退除金退休除金的這個制度可是部長我們現在這樣子推了兩年多\n\n03:28.695 --> 03:30.296\n我非常謝謝委員對這個議題的關心\n\n03:57.512 --> 04:19.400\n因為這個三層本身我覺得第一個部分就是我們會精準的行銷特別是退休儲金的部分你越早去投保的時候你後續的時候退休也要領得越多可是部長很多年輕人第一個他不知道他能夠從農多久第二個他如果沒有收入他就沒有錢\n\n04:21.120 --> 04:42.565\n有誘因去想要加入退休儲金制度所以你在這個誘因的部分有沒有可能再增加一些比如說從農的他已經在農會有這個農保資格的我們確認他從農的我們事先提撥一筆基金或者是提撥一筆預算在他的儲金帳戶裡頭然後也告訴他這個農退儲金其實\n\n04:46.986 --> 05:04.792\n不用擔心未來可能會像勞保會破產等等或者是說把它列為其他的社會福利保險制度預算有沒有可能用多管齊下的方式去把一個這麼好的農退儲金制度讓他做一個加保的比例提升\n\n05:05.692 --> 05:29.638\n有沒有考慮過其他的方式去提到?那個委員所提到這個部分我們也曾經在多內部討論那先到一些規定的部分就是說我預播一些能夠讓他覺得說他的一個帳戶裡面但是不是他可以用的是預播這個部分我們都在規劃那另外我們現在鎖定的對象是有一些已經從軍中退休的這些人這些人從過往的30幾%現在已經拉到60幾%了\n\n05:32.319 --> 05:52.976\n所以我會說我們會從整個的一個從農的結構裡面去找到一些他不了解的地方我們會加強宣導讓他去然後也包括剛才委員所提到的我們有沒有可能用一些誘因讓他能夠更直接的加進來而不會擔心這個部分我想我們後續會來會來看看對我想\n\n05:53.817 --> 06:19.616\n就算一個好的政策沒有人來參與沒有人來投入其實這個好的政策也都是枉然農退出金制度我們推了這麼久好不容易修法通過好不容易上路了那我覺得這個制度尤其是對於親農他們其實幫助是最大的未來到他年老退休的時候他其實就是有一筆固定的金額我覺得這個部分可能要請農業部再多加強一點力道\n\n06:20.256 --> 06:20.396\n第三個問題\n\n06:41.214 --> 06:59.458\n這個部長您大概知道你們的這個免登資材跟生物農藥的預算齁其實每一年都編的很少112年編了7000多萬到最後的總執行大概是10796萬那高雄市呢我高雄市大概只有分到837萬去113年呢\n\n07:04.400 --> 07:04.520\n發言委員：\n\n07:25.029 --> 07:25.149\n發言委員：\n\n07:48.584 --> 08:17.879\n在年中的時候或者是說在你的預算裡頭你要如何去雲芝能夠把這個所謂的免登資材跟生物農藥的推廣的這件事情能夠讓它更廣泛的推行下去。我跟委員報告齁這個議題其實我們一直在跟房源房源組在討論喔是那114年9000多萬我相信明年度我會再用其他的經費去預注那因為免登資材生物農藥的部分是有機有膳的一個非常重要的\n\n08:18.779 --> 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去，其實大概前三個月就全部領完了，就沒錢了，你們的防檢署沒有錢、也沒有追加預算再去補助給農民申請這些免登資材跟生物農藥，那這個東西到底重不重要？在我們未來所謂的友善環境耕作項目裡頭，它是重要的，可是你們今年編列的預算其實還是不夠多，有沒有可能考慮在年中的時候在你的預算裡如何去勻支，能夠把推廣免登資材跟生物農藥的這件事情，更廣泛的推行下去？"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，這個議題其實我們一直在跟防檢署討論，114年九千多萬，我相信明年度我會再用其他的經費去挹注，因為免登資材、生物農藥的部分是有機友善非常重要的農藥替代品，特別是在農藥風險十年減半非常重要的，所以後續我們會用專案的方式報院提出一個四年期計畫，這樣它的經費比較能夠確定。"],["邱委員議瑩：這個部分其實我還蠻關心的，我覺得友善環境其實很重要，我認為如果114年的預算你只這樣編的話，我希望115年的預算能夠大幅的增加。"],["陳部長駿季：會，我們會提，謝謝。"],["邱委員議瑩：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝邱議瑩委員，部長回座。","下一位質詢請鄭正鈐委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":132,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-19-14","speakers":["邱志偉","林岱樺","邱議瑩","鄭正鈐","陳亭妃","謝衣鳯","張啓楷","鄭天財Sra 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