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00:00:48,725\n部長、局長、市長早安我想今年偽造的車牌的案件確實明顯增加截至今年10月就高達1012件比去年的251件高出數倍甚至在8月份就高達200多件這很恐怖我想這個偽造車牌的不是只有單單的一個管理的問題更是造成社會的治安跟所謂的一個交通的一個安全的一個問題部長認同嗎?\n\n3\n00:00:50,446 --> 00:01:09,412\n是我非常認同這個道路安全是一方面那另外我們看到很多的案件都是跟治安相關的所以這也造成了治安方面的漏洞所以我們現在很積極在努力包含這個源頭的管制包含跨機關的查緝那包含我們現在正在著手要修法加重罰則\n\n4\n00:01:10,472 --> 00:01:30,026\n好,部長我想我們現在也是積極在做這樣的一個危機處理啦我們把所謂的一個道路交通管理處法條例的一個罰金提高到三萬六千元然後並採取沒入跟銷毀一個車輛的一個措施但是這樣子的一個做法部長認為有足夠的嚇阻作用嗎?\n\n5\n00:01:31,269 --> 00:01:46,371\n我覺得把罰則提高當然會有一些嚇阻作用出來但是更重要的是源頭的管理就是讓他偽造的車牌沒有辦法進來這個部分我們也跨部會正在努力當中那還有就是執法的部分我們也在跨部會努力當中\n\n6\n00:01:47,071 --> 00:02:15,749\n當然這個分成兩個層面一個是民眾有惡意去購買可能做一些危害治安的行為另外一個可能有一些無辜的百姓鄉親他們並不曉得這個嚴重性所以我們怎麼樣除了在所謂的一個積極的一個處罰的這個層面上面怎麼樣針對這個一個法規的一個宣導包含提醒是不是觸及到所謂一個偽造特種文書件的一個\n\n7\n00:02:16,249 --> 00:02:19,491\n委員黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、\n\n8\n00:02:46,348 --> 00:03:10,055\n這邊我還是要提醒部長這個事情不是交通部的事情必須要跨部會來整合我想這個背後這是一個很龐大一個非法的供應鏈從製造進口到網路銷售甚至平台都看得到都買得到怎麼樣跨部會來做整合怎麼樣提出一個對策部長是不是有什麼樣可以提出一個具體的一個方法或是\n\n9\n00:03:11,135 --> 00:03:33,315\n跨部會的整合的部分一直在進行當中,包含財政部也幫忙在這個源頭阻斷的部分,讓它進口沒有辦法進來,在海關的部分先阻斷。那速發部也協助我們在網路的平台上面如何讓它下架。那當然查緝的部分內政部警政署也相當的幫忙,在查緝的部分他們也跟我們合作,我們聯合在查緝有做偽造車牌的這個部分。\n\n10\n00:03:34,911 --> 00:04:01,171\n本席還是要提醒這個上有政策下有對策當我們在做一些政策的時候犯罪說法又在日新月異像我這幾天我在高速公路上面其實不是只有偽造車牌甚至我們現在有些車子它的車牌上面給你裝LED燈或是做一些什麼樣的處理讓你快速都拍不到這個真的很多很多\n\n11\n00:04:02,212 --> 00:04:19,151\n日新月異的手法我想這也必須我們的公路局跟相關警政組單位要來看怎麼樣來做這樣的一個查緝尤其高速公路非常的危險是不是在所謂的一個我們的一個公路警察局的還有包含我們國道警察隊的部分怎麼樣來做一個巡訪的處理\n\n12\n00:04:20,592 --> 00:04:43,808\n那另外針對我剛剛有看到我們的報告裡面有提到無照駕駛這個部分那當然我覺得我們現在尤其偏鄉面臨一個問題就是所謂的一個未成年的一個無照駕駛跟老年人口的事故我想上次部長到屏東的時候我們也特別提到我們現在的路越開越大條大家速度都很快那尤其有一些交叉路口\n\n13\n00:04:44,728 --> 00:05:10,832\n一些老人家經常就造成所謂的A1事故那我想除了這個事故之外那其實最大的一個問題也在於所謂的一個交通的一個普及性的一個不足啦是公共運輸的部分要來加強是我想包含我們剛剛有提到不管是幸福巴士也好、小房公車也好甚至火車的一個通行的頻率你沒有這個大眾運輸的普及大家出門我就騎摩托車方便嘛\n\n14\n00:05:11,292 --> 00:05:26,622\n在方便的時候就造成事故的明顯的增加這是一個很重要的一個點那尤其有些學生家長、小孩子怕他坐公車坐不住所以他只好讓他買摩托車讓他去騎沒有駕照啊才能造成事故啊\n\n15\n00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:57,078\n這部分我們怎麼樣去加強這個部分一方面我們會加強輔導對於年長者或者是未成年未成年當然我們就列管希望他透過教育的方式希望他們家長要負起責任不要讓他做這樣的行為那對於年長者我們會輔導他盡量去考照那另外就是委員您剛剛所關注的幸福巴士的部分還有公共運輸的部分我們目前在偏鄉的部分我們盡量去加強就是說盡量在補助的方面做足一點讓他的路線路網可以更廣服務到所有的鄉親\n\n16\n00:05:57,418 --> 00:06:19,128\n是我覺得越普及大家就會越使用大眾運輸工具這是一定的啦是啊你顧過一、兩年一幫車什麼人要坐的金額就沒辦法支付嘛所以這個部分我們會優化齁到時候他叫車的模式啦叫車的模式如果可以用預約的齁他就不用用等車的方式小黃公車是對我們目前看起來是最好的一個方式是是是而且跟這個老人家又很貼近\n\n17\n00:06:19,508 --> 00:06:36,443\n是所以我們現在大力在推廣這方面那就拜託部長這邊能夠再積極來輔導我們屏東縣政府能夠強化這樣的一個普及率那另外我們小琉球是一個我們現在很重要的一個旅遊的一個景點那我想觀光署這個大篷園管理處\n\n18\n00:06:37,884 --> 00:07:03,163\n比較遺憾的啦因為現在小琉球其實觀光署沒做什麼事幾年就將近有200萬的人會過去小琉球這個比常住人口還多但是很遺憾的現在目前面臨所謂的一個交通跟停車的一個嚴重的不足那尤其這個我們的目前的碼頭這個停泊的一個船我們的運輸船也蠻多的但是因為\n\n19\n00:07:04,103 --> 00:07:28,277\n機車的停車位嚴重不足,造成連我們自己在地鄉親都找不到地方停車那目前針對這個我知道航港局有在做一個規劃那也配合我們屏東縣政府針對這個港口的水岸風貌做一個改善計畫那我想碰碰處也不能這也責無旁貸啦這搭配觀光的部分怎麼樣配合我們航港局做一個規劃是不是請署長說明一下\n\n20\n00:07:29,718 --> 00:07:53,667\n對,跟委員報告這個部分我們除了航港局的協助興建一些部分的停車空間之外其實我們也跟縣政府充分合作我們也希望這個島是一個綠色島我們希望以後的話能夠只有電動機車因為我們覺得這個燃油的機車其實對這個島嶼的破壞是蠻大的但是還有一些相關的法令我們跟環境部在討論\n\n21\n00:07:55,427 --> 00:08:04,191\n這應該要積極輔導啦,因為畢竟這個琉球的這個整個生態保育我想也是一個問題。他旅遊型態很多都騎機車的。所以這部分還是請部長這邊再積極來處理。那最後一個我想墾丁的一個觀光困境,這個剛剛我們李委員他們有講,\n\n22\n00:08:13,155 --> 00:08:35,787\n除了國外旅遊人口銳減之外連國旅也是肯定的痛明顯明顯非常的下降截至目前為止只有剩下185萬人次較去年大幅減少了將近140萬人剩下一個多月署長我想你經常提到的微笑曲線我想這個\n\n23\n00:08:36,727 --> 00:08:59,209\n想法都很好啦但是執行面真的我們要去思考一下我們不只是在地的觀光業者苦不堪言甚至這些社區我想這個未來有沒有積極一個機會能夠跟他們合作讓他們藉由一些生態旅遊達到環境保護的一個目標也可以創造一些的一個商機這部分是不是我們再重新來檢討一下\n\n24\n00:09:00,470 --> 00:09:24,176\n跟委員報告我們除了這個恆春配合恆春150週年之外我們覺得尤其是屏南的部分應該成立一個專案這個部分應該把墾丁拉進來我們會跟那個墾管處一起還有這個國家公園署我們覺得這件事情它涉及到兩個層面一個就是將這個秩序把它做得更安全更有品質\n\n25\n00:09:25,296 --> 00:09:42,828\n也就是品質的部分應該要確保那第二個部分才是怎麼去隱刻怎麼讓它去有更有系統化的這些活動能夠按照這樣子一個發展去做一些隨意的活動這兩個部分我們會用專業的方式來做處理我們必要的時候我們會請警察單位來參與\n\n26\n00:09:44,269 --> 00:10:10,709\n好那我想恆春建成150週年是明年很重要的一個活動那我想藉由這個機會我們再請跨部會來重新盤點包含我們的內政部也好、交通部也好相關部會重新來檢視一下墾丁這個恆春半島這個國家公園到底有什麼樣新的一些特色或是一些新的玩法我想不要讓人家覺得來坤町就是整個地方在玩而已\n\n27\n00:10:11,630 --> 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所以我們現在大力在推廣這方面那就拜託部長這邊能夠再積極來輔導我們屏東縣政府能夠強化這樣的一個普及率那另外我們小琉球是一個我們現在很重要的一個旅遊的一個景點那我想觀光署這個大篷園管理處\n397884\t423163\t比較遺憾的啦因為現在小琉球其實觀光署沒做什麼事幾年就將近有200萬的人會過去小琉球這個比常住人口還多但是很遺憾的現在目前面臨所謂的一個交通跟停車的一個嚴重的不足那尤其這個我們的目前的碼頭這個停泊的一個船我們的運輸船也蠻多的但是因為\n424103\t448277\t機車的停車位嚴重不足,造成連我們自己在地鄉親都找不到地方停車那目前針對這個我知道航港局有在做一個規劃那也配合我們屏東縣政府針對這個港口的水岸風貌做一個改善計畫那我想碰碰處也不能這也責無旁貸啦這搭配觀光的部分怎麼樣配合我們航港局做一個規劃是不是請署長說明一下\n449718\t473667\t對,跟委員報告這個部分我們除了航港局的協助興建一些部分的停車空間之外其實我們也跟縣政府充分合作我們也希望這個島是一個綠色島我們希望以後的話能夠只有電動機車因為我們覺得這個燃油的機車其實對這個島嶼的破壞是蠻大的但是還有一些相關的法令我們跟環境部在討論\n475427\t484191\t這應該要積極輔導啦,因為畢竟這個琉球的這個整個生態保育我想也是一個問題。他旅遊型態很多都騎機車的。所以這部分還是請部長這邊再積極來處理。那最後一個我想墾丁的一個觀光困境,這個剛剛我們李委員他們有講,\n493155\t515787\t除了國外旅遊人口銳減之外連國旅也是肯定的痛明顯明顯非常的下降截至目前為止只有剩下185萬人次較去年大幅減少了將近140萬人剩下一個多月署長我想你經常提到的微笑曲線我想這個\n516727\t539209\t想法都很好啦但是執行面真的我們要去思考一下我們不只是在地的觀光業者苦不堪言甚至這些社區我想這個未來有沒有積極一個機會能夠跟他們合作讓他們藉由一些生態旅遊達到環境保護的一個目標也可以創造一些的一個商機這部分是不是我們再重新來檢討一下\n540470\t564176\t跟委員報告我們除了這個恆春配合恆春150週年之外我們覺得尤其是屏南的部分應該成立一個專案這個部分應該把墾丁拉進來我們會跟那個墾管處一起還有這個國家公園署我們覺得這件事情它涉及到兩個層面一個就是將這個秩序把它做得更安全更有品質\n565296\t582828\t也就是品質的部分應該要確保那第二個部分才是怎麼去隱刻怎麼讓它去有更有系統化的這些活動能夠按照這樣子一個發展去做一些隨意的活動這兩個部分我們會用專業的方式來做處理我們必要的時候我們會請警察單位來參與\n584269\t610709\t好 那我想恆春建成150週年是明年很重要的一個活動那我想藉由這個機會我們再請跨部會來重新盤點包含我們的內政部也好、交通部也好相關部會重新來檢視一下墾丁這個恆春半島這個國家公園到底有什麼樣新的一些特色或是一些新的玩法我想不要讓人家覺得來坤町就是整個地方在玩而已\n611630\t640757\t不會有新的刺激我想部長也常常下去嘛一定要有真的要有新的規劃新的策略新的深度旅遊那甚至我覺得連這個我們未來這個高鐵這個搭配一些活動部分怎麼樣拉到這個恆春半島我覺得有很多的面向一起來努力啦那未來我想肯定是一個這個台灣的一個很重要的一個旅遊資源那也希望藉由這樣的一個處理能夠讓更多人來到屏東看見屏東的美好謝謝\n641417\t641598\t好,謝謝委員。\n","txt":"謝主席,有請我們陳部長還有公務局陳局長陳局長還有林福勝市長,謝謝好,市長\n部長、局長、市長早安我想今年偽造的車牌的案件確實明顯增加截至今年10月就高達1012件比去年的251件高出數倍甚至在8月份就高達200多件這很恐怖我想這個偽造車牌的不是只有單單的一個管理的問題更是造成社會的治安跟所謂的一個交通的一個安全的一個問題部長認同嗎?\n是我非常認同這個道路安全是一方面那另外我們看到很多的案件都是跟治安相關的所以這也造成了治安方面的漏洞所以我們現在很積極在努力包含這個源頭的管制包含跨機關的查緝那包含我們現在正在著手要修法加重罰則\n好,部長我想我們現在也是積極在做這樣的一個危機處理啦我們把所謂的一個道路交通管理處法條例的一個罰金提高到三萬六千元然後並採取沒入跟銷毀一個車輛的一個措施但是這樣子的一個做法部長認為有足夠的嚇阻作用嗎?\n我覺得把罰則提高當然會有一些嚇阻作用出來但是更重要的是源頭的管理就是讓他偽造的車牌沒有辦法進來這個部分我們也跨部會正在努力當中那還有就是執法的部分我們也在跨部會努力當中\n當然這個分成兩個層面一個是民眾有惡意去購買可能做一些危害治安的行為另外一個可能有一些無辜的百姓鄉親他們並不曉得這個嚴重性所以我們怎麼樣除了在所謂的一個積極的一個處罰的這個層面上面怎麼樣針對這個一個法規的一個宣導包含提醒是不是觸及到所謂一個偽造特種文書件的一個\n委員黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、\n這邊我還是要提醒部長這個事情不是交通部的事情必須要跨部會來整合我想這個背後這是一個很龐大一個非法的供應鏈從製造進口到網路銷售甚至平台都看得到都買得到怎麼樣跨部會來做整合怎麼樣提出一個對策部長是不是有什麼樣可以提出一個具體的一個方法或是\n跨部會的整合的部分一直在進行當中,包含財政部也幫忙在這個源頭阻斷的部分,讓它進口沒有辦法進來,在海關的部分先阻斷。那速發部也協助我們在網路的平台上面如何讓它下架。那當然查緝的部分內政部警政署也相當的幫忙,在查緝的部分他們也跟我們合作,我們聯合在查緝有做偽造車牌的這個部分。\n本席還是要提醒這個上有政策下有對策當我們在做一些政策的時候犯罪說法又在日新月異像我這幾天我在高速公路上面其實不是只有偽造車牌甚至我們現在有些車子它的車牌上面給你裝LED燈或是做一些什麼樣的處理讓你快速都拍不到這個真的很多很多\n日新月異的手法我想這也必須我們的公路局跟相關警政組單位要來看怎麼樣來做這樣的一個查緝尤其高速公路非常的危險是不是在所謂的一個我們的一個公路警察局的還有包含我們國道警察隊的部分怎麼樣來做一個巡訪的處理\n那另外針對我剛剛有看到我們的報告裡面有提到無照駕駛這個部分那當然我覺得我們現在尤其偏鄉面臨一個問題就是所謂的一個未成年的一個無照駕駛跟老年人口的事故我想上次部長到屏東的時候我們也特別提到我們現在的路越開越大條大家速度都很快那尤其有一些交叉路口\n一些老人家經常就造成所謂的A1事故那我想除了這個事故之外那其實最大的一個問題也在於所謂的一個交通的一個普及性的一個不足啦是公共運輸的部分要來加強是我想包含我們剛剛有提到不管是幸福巴士也好、小房公車也好甚至火車的一個通行的頻率你沒有這個大眾運輸的普及大家出門我就騎摩托車方便嘛\n在方便的時候就造成事故的明顯的增加這是一個很重要的一個點那尤其有些學生家長、小孩子怕他坐公車坐不住所以他只好讓他買摩托車讓他去騎沒有駕照啊才能造成事故啊\n這部分我們怎麼樣去加強這個部分一方面我們會加強輔導對於年長者或者是未成年未成年當然我們就列管希望他透過教育的方式希望他們家長要負起責任不要讓他做這樣的行為那對於年長者我們會輔導他盡量去考照那另外就是委員您剛剛所關注的幸福巴士的部分還有公共運輸的部分我們目前在偏鄉的部分我們盡量去加強就是說盡量在補助的方面做足一點讓他的路線路網可以更廣服務到所有的鄉親\n是我覺得越普及大家就會越使用大眾運輸工具這是一定的啦是啊你顧過一、兩年一幫車什麼人要坐的金額就沒辦法支付嘛所以這個部分我們會優化齁到時候他叫車的模式啦叫車的模式如果可以用預約的齁他就不用用等車的方式小黃公車是對我們目前看起來是最好的一個方式是是是而且跟這個老人家又很貼近\n是 所以我們現在大力在推廣這方面那就拜託部長這邊能夠再積極來輔導我們屏東縣政府能夠強化這樣的一個普及率那另外我們小琉球是一個我們現在很重要的一個旅遊的一個景點那我想觀光署這個大篷園管理處\n比較遺憾的啦因為現在小琉球其實觀光署沒做什麼事幾年就將近有200萬的人會過去小琉球這個比常住人口還多但是很遺憾的現在目前面臨所謂的一個交通跟停車的一個嚴重的不足那尤其這個我們的目前的碼頭這個停泊的一個船我們的運輸船也蠻多的但是因為\n機車的停車位嚴重不足,造成連我們自己在地鄉親都找不到地方停車那目前針對這個我知道航港局有在做一個規劃那也配合我們屏東縣政府針對這個港口的水岸風貌做一個改善計畫那我想碰碰處也不能這也責無旁貸啦這搭配觀光的部分怎麼樣配合我們航港局做一個規劃是不是請署長說明一下\n對,跟委員報告這個部分我們除了航港局的協助興建一些部分的停車空間之外其實我們也跟縣政府充分合作我們也希望這個島是一個綠色島我們希望以後的話能夠只有電動機車因為我們覺得這個燃油的機車其實對這個島嶼的破壞是蠻大的但是還有一些相關的法令我們跟環境部在討論\n這應該要積極輔導啦,因為畢竟這個琉球的這個整個生態保育我想也是一個問題。他旅遊型態很多都騎機車的。所以這部分還是請部長這邊再積極來處理。那最後一個我想墾丁的一個觀光困境,這個剛剛我們李委員他們有講,\n除了國外旅遊人口銳減之外連國旅也是肯定的痛明顯明顯非常的下降截至目前為止只有剩下185萬人次較去年大幅減少了將近140萬人剩下一個多月署長我想你經常提到的微笑曲線我想這個\n想法都很好啦但是執行面真的我們要去思考一下我們不只是在地的觀光業者苦不堪言甚至這些社區我想這個未來有沒有積極一個機會能夠跟他們合作讓他們藉由一些生態旅遊達到環境保護的一個目標也可以創造一些的一個商機這部分是不是我們再重新來檢討一下\n跟委員報告我們除了這個恆春配合恆春150週年之外我們覺得尤其是屏南的部分應該成立一個專案這個部分應該把墾丁拉進來我們會跟那個墾管處一起還有這個國家公園署我們覺得這件事情它涉及到兩個層面一個就是將這個秩序把它做得更安全更有品質\n也就是品質的部分應該要確保那第二個部分才是怎麼去隱刻怎麼讓它去有更有系統化的這些活動能夠按照這樣子一個發展去做一些隨意的活動這兩個部分我們會用專業的方式來做處理我們必要的時候我們會請警察單位來參與\n好 那我想恆春建成150週年是明年很重要的一個活動那我想藉由這個機會我們再請跨部會來重新盤點包含我們的內政部也好、交通部也好相關部會重新來檢視一下墾丁這個恆春半島這個國家公園到底有什麼樣新的一些特色或是一些新的玩法我想不要讓人家覺得來坤町就是整個地方在玩而已\n不會有新的刺激我想部長也常常下去嘛一定要有真的要有新的規劃新的策略新的深度旅遊那甚至我覺得連這個我們未來這個高鐵這個搭配一些活動部分怎麼樣拉到這個恆春半島我覺得有很多的面向一起來努力啦那未來我想肯定是一個這個台灣的一個很重要的一個旅遊資源那也希望藉由這樣的一個處理能夠讓更多人來到屏東看見屏東的美好謝謝\n好,謝謝委員。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.646 --> 00:07.188\n謝主席,有請我們陳部長還有公務局陳局長陳局長還有林福勝市長,謝謝好,市長\n\n00:20.226 --> 00:48.725\n部長、局長、市長早安我想今年偽造的車牌的案件確實明顯增加截至今年10月就高達1012件比去年的251件高出數倍甚至在8月份就高達200多件這很恐怖我想這個偽造車牌的不是只有單單的一個管理的問題更是造成社會的治安跟所謂的一個交通的一個安全的一個問題部長認同嗎?\n\n00:50.446 --> 01:09.412\n是我非常認同這個道路安全是一方面那另外我們看到很多的案件都是跟治安相關的所以這也造成了治安方面的漏洞所以我們現在很積極在努力包含這個源頭的管制包含跨機關的查緝那包含我們現在正在著手要修法加重罰則\n\n01:10.472 --> 01:30.026\n好,部長我想我們現在也是積極在做這樣的一個危機處理啦我們把所謂的一個道路交通管理處法條例的一個罰金提高到三萬六千元然後並採取沒入跟銷毀一個車輛的一個措施但是這樣子的一個做法部長認為有足夠的嚇阻作用嗎?\n\n01:31.269 --> 01:46.371\n我覺得把罰則提高當然會有一些嚇阻作用出來但是更重要的是源頭的管理就是讓他偽造的車牌沒有辦法進來這個部分我們也跨部會正在努力當中那還有就是執法的部分我們也在跨部會努力當中\n\n01:47.071 --> 02:15.749\n當然這個分成兩個層面一個是民眾有惡意去購買可能做一些危害治安的行為另外一個可能有一些無辜的百姓鄉親他們並不曉得這個嚴重性所以我們怎麼樣除了在所謂的一個積極的一個處罰的這個層面上面怎麼樣針對這個一個法規的一個宣導包含提醒是不是觸及到所謂一個偽造特種文書件的一個\n\n02:16.249 --> 02:19.491\n委員黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、\n\n02:46.348 --> 03:10.055\n這邊我還是要提醒部長這個事情不是交通部的事情必須要跨部會來整合我想這個背後這是一個很龐大一個非法的供應鏈從製造進口到網路銷售甚至平台都看得到都買得到怎麼樣跨部會來做整合怎麼樣提出一個對策部長是不是有什麼樣可以提出一個具體的一個方法或是\n\n03:11.135 --> 03:33.315\n跨部會的整合的部分一直在進行當中,包含財政部也幫忙在這個源頭阻斷的部分,讓它進口沒有辦法進來,在海關的部分先阻斷。那速發部也協助我們在網路的平台上面如何讓它下架。那當然查緝的部分內政部警政署也相當的幫忙,在查緝的部分他們也跟我們合作,我們聯合在查緝有做偽造車牌的這個部分。\n\n03:34.911 --> 04:01.171\n本席還是要提醒這個上有政策下有對策當我們在做一些政策的時候犯罪說法又在日新月異像我這幾天我在高速公路上面其實不是只有偽造車牌甚至我們現在有些車子它的車牌上面給你裝LED燈或是做一些什麼樣的處理讓你快速都拍不到這個真的很多很多\n\n04:02.212 --> 04:19.151\n日新月異的手法我想這也必須我們的公路局跟相關警政組單位要來看怎麼樣來做這樣的一個查緝尤其高速公路非常的危險是不是在所謂的一個我們的一個公路警察局的還有包含我們國道警察隊的部分怎麼樣來做一個巡訪的處理\n\n04:20.592 --> 04:43.808\n那另外針對我剛剛有看到我們的報告裡面有提到無照駕駛這個部分那當然我覺得我們現在尤其偏鄉面臨一個問題就是所謂的一個未成年的一個無照駕駛跟老年人口的事故我想上次部長到屏東的時候我們也特別提到我們現在的路越開越大條大家速度都很快那尤其有一些交叉路口\n\n04:44.728 --> 05:10.832\n一些老人家經常就造成所謂的A1事故那我想除了這個事故之外那其實最大的一個問題也在於所謂的一個交通的一個普及性的一個不足啦是公共運輸的部分要來加強是我想包含我們剛剛有提到不管是幸福巴士也好、小房公車也好甚至火車的一個通行的頻率你沒有這個大眾運輸的普及大家出門我就騎摩托車方便嘛\n\n05:11.292 --> 05:26.622\n在方便的時候就造成事故的明顯的增加這是一個很重要的一個點那尤其有些學生家長、小孩子怕他坐公車坐不住所以他只好讓他買摩托車讓他去騎沒有駕照啊才能造成事故啊\n\n05:27.680 --> 05:57.078\n這部分我們怎麼樣去加強這個部分一方面我們會加強輔導對於年長者或者是未成年未成年當然我們就列管希望他透過教育的方式希望他們家長要負起責任不要讓他做這樣的行為那對於年長者我們會輔導他盡量去考照那另外就是委員您剛剛所關注的幸福巴士的部分還有公共運輸的部分我們目前在偏鄉的部分我們盡量去加強就是說盡量在補助的方面做足一點讓他的路線路網可以更廣服務到所有的鄉親\n\n05:57.418 --> 06:19.128\n是我覺得越普及大家就會越使用大眾運輸工具這是一定的啦是啊你顧過一、兩年一幫車什麼人要坐的金額就沒辦法支付嘛所以這個部分我們會優化齁到時候他叫車的模式啦叫車的模式如果可以用預約的齁他就不用用等車的方式小黃公車是對我們目前看起來是最好的一個方式是是是而且跟這個老人家又很貼近\n\n06:19.508 --> 06:36.443\n是所以我們現在大力在推廣這方面那就拜託部長這邊能夠再積極來輔導我們屏東縣政府能夠強化這樣的一個普及率那另外我們小琉球是一個我們現在很重要的一個旅遊的一個景點那我想觀光署這個大篷園管理處\n\n06:37.884 --> 07:03.163\n比較遺憾的啦因為現在小琉球其實觀光署沒做什麼事幾年就將近有200萬的人會過去小琉球這個比常住人口還多但是很遺憾的現在目前面臨所謂的一個交通跟停車的一個嚴重的不足那尤其這個我們的目前的碼頭這個停泊的一個船我們的運輸船也蠻多的但是因為\n\n07:04.103 --> 07:28.277\n機車的停車位嚴重不足,造成連我們自己在地鄉親都找不到地方停車那目前針對這個我知道航港局有在做一個規劃那也配合我們屏東縣政府針對這個港口的水岸風貌做一個改善計畫那我想碰碰處也不能這也責無旁貸啦這搭配觀光的部分怎麼樣配合我們航港局做一個規劃是不是請署長說明一下\n\n07:29.718 --> 07:53.667\n對,跟委員報告這個部分我們除了航港局的協助興建一些部分的停車空間之外其實我們也跟縣政府充分合作我們也希望這個島是一個綠色島我們希望以後的話能夠只有電動機車因為我們覺得這個燃油的機車其實對這個島嶼的破壞是蠻大的但是還有一些相關的法令我們跟環境部在討論\n\n07:55.427 --> 08:04.191\n這應該要積極輔導啦,因為畢竟這個琉球的這個整個生態保育我想也是一個問題。他旅遊型態很多都騎機車的。所以這部分還是請部長這邊再積極來處理。那最後一個我想墾丁的一個觀光困境,這個剛剛我們李委員他們有講,\n\n08:13.155 --> 08:35.787\n除了國外旅遊人口銳減之外連國旅也是肯定的痛明顯明顯非常的下降截至目前為止只有剩下185萬人次較去年大幅減少了將近140萬人剩下一個多月署長我想你經常提到的微笑曲線我想這個\n\n08:36.727 --> 08:59.209\n想法都很好啦但是執行面真的我們要去思考一下我們不只是在地的觀光業者苦不堪言甚至這些社區我想這個未來有沒有積極一個機會能夠跟他們合作讓他們藉由一些生態旅遊達到環境保護的一個目標也可以創造一些的一個商機這部分是不是我們再重新來檢討一下\n\n09:00.470 --> 09:24.176\n跟委員報告我們除了這個恆春配合恆春150週年之外我們覺得尤其是屏南的部分應該成立一個專案這個部分應該把墾丁拉進來我們會跟那個墾管處一起還有這個國家公園署我們覺得這件事情它涉及到兩個層面一個就是將這個秩序把它做得更安全更有品質\n\n09:25.296 --> 09:42.828\n也就是品質的部分應該要確保那第二個部分才是怎麼去隱刻怎麼讓它去有更有系統化的這些活動能夠按照這樣子一個發展去做一些隨意的活動這兩個部分我們會用專業的方式來做處理我們必要的時候我們會請警察單位來參與\n\n09:44.269 --> 10:10.709\n好那我想恆春建成150週年是明年很重要的一個活動那我想藉由這個機會我們再請跨部會來重新盤點包含我們的內政部也好、交通部也好相關部會重新來檢視一下墾丁這個恆春半島這個國家公園到底有什麼樣新的一些特色或是一些新的玩法我想不要讓人家覺得來坤町就是整個地方在玩而已\n\n10:11.630 --> 10:40.757\n不會有新的刺激我想部長也常常下去嘛一定要有真的要有新的規劃新的策略新的深度旅遊那甚至我覺得連這個我們未來這個高鐵這個搭配一些活動部分怎麼樣拉到這個恆春半島我覺得有很多的面向一起來努力啦那未來我想肯定是一個這個台灣的一個很重要的一個旅遊資源那也希望藉由這樣的一個處理能夠讓更多人來到屏東看見屏東的美好謝謝\n\n10:41.417 --> 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政部警政署就「偽變造車牌或其它\n隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暨如何有效杜絕無照駕駛猖獗之亂象」進行專題報告，並備質詢；\n二、審查(一)委員洪孟楷等24人、(二)委員黃健豪等17人、(三)委員林俊憲等17人、(四)委員王\n鴻薇等18人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條條文修正草案」案、(五)委員鍾佳濱等19\n人、(六)委員許宇甄等17人、(七)委員陳素月等20人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條\n及第十二條之一條文修正草案」案、(八)委員林德福等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二\n條及第十三條條文修正草案」案、(九)委員徐富癸等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條\n及第十五條條文修正草案」案；三、審查(一)委員傅崐萁等20人、(二)委員陳雪生等29人分別擬\n具「發展觀光條例第二條及第七十條之二條文修正草案」案、(三)委員許宇甄等20人擬具「發展\n觀光條例第四條、第五十三條及第七十條之二條文修正草案」案、(四)委員林倩綺等21人擬具\n「發展觀光條例第三十六條及第六十條條文修正草案」案、(五)委員王美惠等16人擬具「發展觀\n光條例部分條文修正草案」案、(六)委員伍麗華 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