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00:00:31,321\n部長早安今天委員會是針對偽造車牌還有無照駕駛的一個專報我們看到有關偽造車牌的一個案件數根據統計我們看到近5年來的偽造件數\n\n3\n00:00:32,882 --> 00:00:34,104\n黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、\n\n4\n00:00:55,146 --> 00:00:56,467\n委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ\n\n5\n00:01:15,763 --> 00:01:39,847\n當然就是也牽涉到警政署還有我們交通部都要一起來合作那就我們交通部的部分我們對於偽造車牌這樣子的一個狀況我們目前的一個防範措施是什麼是不是可以請部長先講一下報告委員我們第一個措施是針對源頭管制的部分我們請財政部包含在海關的部分來協助我們然後還有就是網路的部分讓民眾不容易取得\n\n6\n00:01:40,507 --> 00:01:56,303\n這樣子的偽造車牌因為大家都知道說現在數位平台發達很多人的那個偽造車牌都是從網路上面所以我們也請速發部有在協助我們在做下架的部分那這個部分當然我們自己公路局每一天都在網路上面巡查每一天都巡查\n\n7\n00:01:57,083 --> 00:02:15,025\n審查到的時候有那個網路的程式機器人程式在巡查巡查到馬上就會送警政機關那移送警政機關以外我們也請抒發部來協助那是源頭的部分那另外跨機關的查緝我們也跟警政署大家聯手在做查緝包含高工局包含公路局\n\n8\n00:02:15,486 --> 00:02:34,088\n二、審判警政署的部分我們大家配合在查緝第三個部分是針對罰則的加重我們現在正在努力當中我們大概這一兩天就會送到行政院把我們的版本送到行政院之後行政院大概在一個月之內我們希望在這個會期能夠完成整個罰則加重的修法程序\n\n9\n00:02:34,707 --> 00:02:54,826\n是,剛剛部長有提到就是源頭的管理所以剛剛您講的那個都是就是相關的一個措施那其中還有一個就是防偽的一個設計這部分我在上一次就是其實好像在上個月也有質詢這個議題那時候應該公路局有回覆說我們就是會有一些防偽的一個技術\n\n10\n00:02:57,148 --> 00:03:18,561\n來防治這個不法集團的一個偽造、變造這個車牌。那我們也看到最近的新聞就這個月初就我們就看到了說我們查獲的這個車牌已經出現了說這個不法集團他們也可以偽造這個梅花烙印甚至是這個車牌背面的防偽雷雕的車號\n\n11\n00:03:19,722 --> 00:03:26,374\n所以他們的技術也是一直在升級耶所以我們的這樣的防偽的技術好像快跟不上了\n\n12\n00:03:26,954 --> 00:03:55,192\n當然他們防偽技術在升級我們的防偽技術也要升級所以請局長我們有什麼樣的升級措施各位報告我們現在其實這一個車牌的方位其實是多道的其實它有好幾種包括字體包括材質包括厚薄包括雷射包括前後面所以其實有好幾道其實就是說這個不法集團其實這一個偽造的這個部分其實我們還是可以辨別出來是真或假\n\n13\n00:03:55,912 --> 00:04:20,784\n當然就是說因為有一些的這個真偽的部分它其實是比較細所以就是說有些還要用一些設備所以我們大概在明年度包括檢證署也有給我們一些建議我們會再召集相關機關對於就是說車牌的防偽的功能的提升我想我們在明年度的車牌設計上面還會再做相關的一個規劃是就是車牌的設計那有沒有考慮就是加晶片的這樣的一個方法\n\n14\n00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:41,241\n這個部分會納入考量不過就是說目前其實包括就是像高雄局它ETC通過的有一些就是說這一個屬於這個不適當的一些就是說車牌或偽造車牌的部分其實它ETC的有一些資訊其實都有回饋到我們監理跟警察機關我們也都有相關來查緝\n\n15\n00:04:42,421 --> 00:04:57,171\n是好那就是剛剛部長有提到就是我們目前也有提出道教條例的相關的一個修法就是要加重罰款嘛那本席也有提案啦那就是針對第12條之一就是有針對這個使用偽造、變造或者是就是冒領的這個車牌牌照我們就是要來加重它的一個罰則啦\n\n16\n00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:29,755\n我提的是罰款是比較重一點那另外我也有主張說希望就是累犯的話要把那個車輛直接沒入我們新的修法裡面也有包含沒入車輛也有這樣子的一個主張我們會直接沒入不用累犯就直接就沒入就直接沒入那我們也是希望就是說就是針對這個偽造車牌的這樣子一個犯案的一個形態能夠多管齊下然後遏止這樣子的一個犯罪數的一個成長\n\n17\n00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:45,864\n二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、二、副委員黃健豪等17人、\n\n18\n00:05:59,070 --> 00:06:00,712\n委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、\n\n19\n00:06:14,918 --> 00:06:34,806\n我請市長回答這個部分跟委員報告一下就是說滑緩的部分的話就是比照無形駕駛有2萬4提高到這一個3萬6那另外一個部分的話因為無照駕駛必須要有車輛的取得所以對於汽車所有人部分連帶處罰包括牌照一個月提高到三個月三個月提高到六個月六個月提高到\n\n20\n00:06:35,906 --> 00:06:50,866\n副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委員黃健豪等17人、副委\n\n21\n00:06:53,610 --> 00:07:04,265\n這個目錄所以大概從法令的部分從這幾個部分那另外一個部分大家比較關切的未成年無照駕駛跟這個高齡者的部分的話另外有這個加強輔導這個變形的一些這個機制來做一個處理\n\n22\n00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:31,159\n是,我們也看一下就是說我們看到近5年的那個無照駕駛的那個舉發件數那在整個就是累計5年的舉發件數高達67萬多那累犯的這個人的話是26萬多人次那我們光今年1到10月份就有22萬多人次那這邊我想在\n\n23\n00:07:32,472 --> 00:07:48,764\n就是請教的部分就是說剛剛我提到就是無照駕駛的三個樣態可是他們無照駕駛還有就是有點區別就是說汽車的無照駕駛跟機車的無照駕駛那剛剛市長回覆的這個加重罰則的部分我們有沒有差別\n\n24\n00:07:49,304 --> 00:08:15,655\n那是汽車?針對機車或是無照駕駛?跟我們報告是有差別因為這次就是只提高這個上限沒有去動下限那基本上就是考慮到這個汽機車的車種類不一樣那另外無照駕駛可能發生這一個事故跟沒發生事故的情節也會不一樣所以這次針對這個提高這個上限的部分就是針對大家認為惡性重大然後可能要提高罰款的部分來做處理這個下限沒有動下限沒有動所以是還有一個\n\n25\n00:08:17,856 --> 00:08:25,442\n就是對於車輛種類﹖對,汽機車其實還到時候裁罰的時候會有個差別啦。汽機車會有個差別。就是還是有個彈性的空間啦。是。是。是。好,那謝謝部長。謝謝委員。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2154\t3924\t謝謝主席。請主席邀請陳部長。陳部長。\n14828\t31321\t部長早安今天委員會是針對偽造車牌還有無照駕駛的一個專報我們看到有關偽造車牌的一個案件數根據統計我們看到近5年來的偽造件數\n32882\t34104\t黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人、\n55146\t56467\t委員黃健豪等17人、 ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、 ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、 ﻏ\n75763\t99847\t當然就是也牽涉到警政署還有我們交通部都要一起來合作那就我們交通部的部分我們對於偽造車牌這樣子的一個狀況我們目前的一個防範措施是什麼是不是可以請部長先講一下報告委員我們第一個措施是針對源頭管制的部分我們請財政部包含在海關的部分來協助我們然後還有就是網路的部分讓民眾不容易取得\n100507\t116303\t這樣子的偽造車牌因為大家都知道說現在數位平台發達很多人的那個偽造車牌都是從網路上面所以我們也請速發部有在協助我們在做下架的部分那這個部分當然我們自己公路局每一天都在網路上面巡查每一天都巡查\n117083\t135025\t審查到的時候有那個網路的程式機器人程式在巡查巡查到馬上就會送警政機關那移送警政機關以外我們也請抒發部來協助那是源頭的部分那另外跨機關的查緝我們也跟警政署大家聯手在做查緝包含高工局包含公路局\n135486\t154088\t二、審判警政署的部分我們大家配合在查緝第三個部分是針對罰則的加重我們現在正在努力當中我們大概這一兩天就會送到行政院把我們的版本送到行政院之後行政院大概在一個月之內我們希望在這個會期能夠完成整個罰則加重的修法程序\n154707\t174826\t是,剛剛部長有提到就是源頭的管理所以剛剛您講的那個都是就是相關的一個措施那其中還有一個就是防偽的一個設計這部分我在上一次就是其實好像在上個月也有質詢這個議題那時候應該公路局有回覆說我們就是會有一些防偽的一個技術\n177148\t198561\t來防治這個不法集團的一個偽造、變造這個車牌。那我們也看到最近的新聞就這個月初就我們就看到了說我們查獲的這個車牌已經出現了說這個不法集團他們也可以偽造這個梅花烙印甚至是這個車牌背面的防偽雷雕的車號\n199722\t206374\t所以他們的技術也是一直在升級耶所以我們的這樣的防偽的技術好像快跟不上了\n206954\t235192\t當然他們防偽技術在升級我們的防偽技術也要升級所以請局長我們有什麼樣的升級措施各位報告我們現在其實這一個車牌的方位其實是多道的其實它有好幾種包括字體包括材質包括厚薄包括雷射包括前後面所以其實有好幾道其實就是說這個不法集團其實這一個偽造的這個部分其實我們還是可以辨別出來是真或假\n235912\t260784\t當然就是說因為有一些的這個真偽的部分它其實是比較細所以就是說有些還要用一些設備所以我們大概在明年度包括檢證署也有給我們一些建議我們會再召集相關機關對於就是說車牌的防偽的功能的提升我想我們在明年度的車牌設計上面還會再做相關的一個規劃是 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ﻏ\n當然就是也牽涉到警政署還有我們交通部都要一起來合作那就我們交通部的部分我們對於偽造車牌這樣子的一個狀況我們目前的一個防範措施是什麼是不是可以請部長先講一下報告委員我們第一個措施是針對源頭管制的部分我們請財政部包含在海關的部分來協助我們然後還有就是網路的部分讓民眾不容易取得\n這樣子的偽造車牌因為大家都知道說現在數位平台發達很多人的那個偽造車牌都是從網路上面所以我們也請速發部有在協助我們在做下架的部分那這個部分當然我們自己公路局每一天都在網路上面巡查每一天都巡查\n審查到的時候有那個網路的程式機器人程式在巡查巡查到馬上就會送警政機關那移送警政機關以外我們也請抒發部來協助那是源頭的部分那另外跨機關的查緝我們也跟警政署大家聯手在做查緝包含高工局包含公路局\n二、審判警政署的部分我們大家配合在查緝第三個部分是針對罰則的加重我們現在正在努力當中我們大概這一兩天就會送到行政院把我們的版本送到行政院之後行政院大概在一個月之內我們希望在這個會期能夠完成整個罰則加重的修法程序\n是,剛剛部長有提到就是源頭的管理所以剛剛您講的那個都是就是相關的一個措施那其中還有一個就是防偽的一個設計這部分我在上一次就是其實好像在上個月也有質詢這個議題那時候應該公路局有回覆說我們就是會有一些防偽的一個技術\n來防治這個不法集團的一個偽造、變造這個車牌。那我們也看到最近的新聞就這個月初就我們就看到了說我們查獲的這個車牌已經出現了說這個不法集團他們也可以偽造這個梅花烙印甚至是這個車牌背面的防偽雷雕的車號\n所以他們的技術也是一直在升級耶所以我們的這樣的防偽的技術好像快跟不上了\n當然他們防偽技術在升級我們的防偽技術也要升級所以請局長我們有什麼樣的升級措施各位報告我們現在其實這一個車牌的方位其實是多道的其實它有好幾種包括字體包括材質包括厚薄包括雷射包括前後面所以其實有好幾道其實就是說這個不法集團其實這一個偽造的這個部分其實我們還是可以辨別出來是真或假\n當然就是說因為有一些的這個真偽的部分它其實是比較細所以就是說有些還要用一些設備所以我們大概在明年度包括檢證署也有給我們一些建議我們會再召集相關機關對於就是說車牌的防偽的功能的提升我想我們在明年度的車牌設計上面還會再做相關的一個規劃是 就是車牌的設計那有沒有考慮就是加晶片的這樣的一個方法\n這個部分會納入考量不過就是說目前其實包括就是像高雄局它ETC通過的有一些就是說這一個屬於這個不適當的一些就是說車牌或偽造車牌的部分其實它ETC的有一些資訊其實都有回饋到我們監理跟警察機關我們也都有相關來查緝\n是 好 那就是剛剛部長有提到就是我們目前也有提出道教條例的相關的一個修法就是要加重罰款嘛那本席也有提案啦那就是針對第12條之一就是有針對這個使用偽造、變造或者是就是冒領的這個車牌牌照我們就是要來加重它的一個罰則啦\n我提的是罰款是比較重一點那另外我也有主張說希望就是累犯的話要把那個車輛直接沒入我們新的修法裡面也有包含沒入車輛也有這樣子的一個主張我們會直接沒入不用累犯就直接就沒入就直接沒入那我們也是希望就是說就是針對這個偽造車牌的這樣子一個犯案的一個形態能夠多管齊下然後遏止這樣子的一個犯罪數的一個成長\n二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、 二、副委員黃健豪等17人、\n委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、\n我請市長回答這個部分跟委員報告一下就是說滑緩的部分的話就是比照無形駕駛有2萬4提高到這一個3萬6那另外一個部分的話因為無照駕駛必須要有車輛的取得所以對於汽車所有人部分連帶處罰包括牌照一個月提高到三個月三個月提高到六個月六個月提高到\n副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委員黃健豪等17人、 副委\n這個目錄所以大概從法令的部分從這幾個部分那另外一個部分大家比較關切的未成年無照駕駛跟這個高齡者的部分的話另外有這個加強輔導這個變形的一些這個機制來做一個處理\n是,我們也看一下就是說我們看到近5年的那個無照駕駛的那個舉發件數那在整個就是累計5年的舉發件數高達67萬多那累犯的這個人的話是26萬多人次那我們光今年1到10月份就有22萬多人次那這邊我想在\n就是請教的部分就是說剛剛我提到就是無照駕駛的三個樣態可是他們無照駕駛還有就是有點區別就是說汽車的無照駕駛跟機車的無照駕駛那剛剛市長回覆的這個加重罰則的部分我們有沒有差別\n那是汽車?針對機車或是無照駕駛?跟我們報告是有差別因為這次就是只提高這個上限沒有去動下限那基本上就是考慮到這個汽機車的車種類不一樣那另外無照駕駛可能發生這一個事故跟沒發生事故的情節也會不一樣所以這次針對這個提高這個上限的部分就是針對大家認為惡性重大然後可能要提高罰款的部分來做處理這個下限沒有動下限沒有動所以是還有一個\n就是對於車輛種類﹖對,汽機車其實還到時候裁罰的時候會有個差別啦。汽機車會有個差別。就是還是有個彈性的空間啦。是。是。是。好,那謝謝部長。謝謝委員。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.154 --> 00:03.924\n謝謝主席。請主席邀請陳部長。陳部長。\n\n00:14.828 --> 00:31.321\n部長早安今天委員會是針對偽造車牌還有無照駕駛的一個專報我們看到有關偽造車牌的一個案件數根據統計我們看到近5年來的偽造件數\n\n00:32.882 --> 00:34.104\n黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、\n\n00:55.146 --> 00:56.467\n委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ委員黃健豪等17人、ﻏ\n\n01:15.763 --> 01:39.847\n當然就是也牽涉到警政署還有我們交通部都要一起來合作那就我們交通部的部分我們對於偽造車牌這樣子的一個狀況我們目前的一個防範措施是什麼是不是可以請部長先講一下報告委員我們第一個措施是針對源頭管制的部分我們請財政部包含在海關的部分來協助我們然後還有就是網路的部分讓民眾不容易取得\n\n01:40.507 --> 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