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00:00:41,303\n好部長早署長早首先針對我們還是針對旅館業的部分當然今天會有一個要來審查所謂旅館的這個相關的這個條例那我想確認一下這旅館業裡面這管理規則部分對於消防的法規的部分的設置標準相對一般住宅是比較高的那我想問一下這個署長\n\n3\n00:00:42,043 --> 00:01:06,464\n過去這些年包含這次所謂列管的這些項目裡面不管是相關大樓也好或是救國團或各項這個活動中心等等的這個列管的這些案例裡面有些過去幾年它通過了那還有一些還沒有通過那我想問一個核心問題在所謂在列管的這些這個住宿型的這個單位裡面他們的消防法規有沒有定期去檢查有沒有符合這個消防的規範\n\n4\n00:01:07,550 --> 00:01:26,089\n一般來講都是由地方政府去執行那麼都應該要有符合那沒有符合的話地方政府直接開罰了所以第二個部分是應該說他的這個會館的部分跟旅行旅館業的部分大概應該要分開來看待是這樣子\n\n5\n00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:53,398\n那對旅館業委員所指教的旅館業的部分不管是觀光旅館或是飯店一般旅館跟這個所謂的這個民宿我們都有執行對當然我說今天旅館比如說觀光旅館一般旅館或者是這種民宿有所謂的消防法規嘛那也是規你們在處理那地方政府會查驗他們都合格這沒問題我現在講的是你們列館的所謂的像剛剛提到的在今天修法裡面主要談到的像這個會館\n\n6\n00:01:56,900 --> 00:02:10,818\n運動活動中心、青年活動中心、救國團、然後還有強革大樓等等的這些他依然有提供住宿那提供住宿的這些機構他的這個消防法規有沒有符合相關規範還是沒有符合所以沒有通過我要問的是這個\n\n7\n00:02:11,579 --> 00:02:27,210\n我們只主管這個公安旅館跟旅館一般旅館跟民宿那其他的話就要按照相關的法令譬如說香客的部分那當然是內政部在主管所以這個部分應該是都在執行應該都沒有什麼問題\n\n8\n00:02:28,789 --> 00:02:48,582\n那所以你意思是說像香客大樓它的消防法規有沒有符合可不可以住宿的規範不歸你們處理是不是因為它沒有營業的行為如果營業的行為就屬於我們的規範如果它沒有營業的行為的話那當然就是按照一般的權責單位來做管理\n\n9\n00:02:48,942 --> 00:03:14,922\n好謝謝署長那接下來我們討論其他的問題這個觀光逆差的部分我想去年有推估去年是逆差超過4400億元那今年預估會達到7300億元那主要原因有連接一些社群的民調最主要原因大家認為說國內的住宿成本高是主要原因那再來是國外旅遊比台灣便宜那第三個原因是因為國內缺乏新的或新一年的景點所以導致我們這個觀光客逐年\n\n10\n00:03:15,542 --> 00:03:28,169\n二、黃健豪等17人、二、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健\n\n11\n00:03:33,652 --> 00:03:49,660\n其實你看前幾個基本上幾個原因都跟錢就很大很大的關係基本上價錢占了最大的原因不管是出租成本還是國外旅遊的比較便宜或是國內的物價過高等等它都涉及到錢的問題所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分你們有什麼樣的解決方案\n\n12\n00:03:51,961 --> 00:04:14,230\n這有兩個結構性的問題就是第一個就是現在出國的話大概就是國外啊國跟國之間大概都是航空的費用成本是比較高的那住宿的部分呢在台灣的結構來看我們是看國旅的部分那國旅的話它分兩個一個是平日一個是假日那現在的假日台灣的形態已經是五六日了\n\n13\n00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:40,230\n那平日是星期一到星期四那如果說平均房價來看那這一個部分呢我們可以看起來跟差異性不大但是因為我們現在旅遊的形態做改變了所以在國旅的部分大概一日遊佔了我們的70%所以我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿主長這個先打斷你一下你剛剛說到這個飛機票問題我想\n\n14\n00:04:42,412 --> 00:05:00,641\n如果飛機票成本太高我想那是全球的問題不會只有台灣飛出國外的問題但是很顯然是我們出國的人是很多其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多唯獨其他國家來台灣旅遊的人數變得少問題在這邊所以我想歸咎於機票成本成長我覺得不是主因啦\n\n15\n00:05:01,581 --> 00:05:28,295\n那國內輸出成本的問題也是需要說這個交通部或觀光署啊你們應該去協調不管勞動部也好或經濟部也好其實到底成本成本一定很多原因造成的嘛不是只有不是只有補助可以解決的那到底成本為什麼為什麼會過高你們有沒有找過各單位來來瞭解過還是就是一直發發有一個部分是地價稅跟房屋稅那個逐年都增加的那因為是地方稅那這個對旅館來講他的成本確實是墊高\n\n16\n00:05:29,437 --> 00:05:54,295\n那這就是你們要去找相關單位來協調嗎?什麼時候會找他們來協調?我們持續都在討論什麼時候?有嗎?你們有開過那次的會議嗎?針對房價的部分我們可以專案來開一個會什麼時候?那我們也提供一個網站就是評價的這個我們叫旅宿網然後有些比較優惠的評價其實都在這個網站組長我覺得你現在講的是治標啦就是說第一時間我提供這樣就像之前物價上漲的時候提供一個所謂\n\n17\n00:05:55,456 --> 00:05:55,757\n委員黃健豪等17人、\n\n18\n00:06:11,778 --> 00:06:28,878\n委員在指示的應該是針對整個旅宿的業者他們的成本如何降低那這個部分有關於跨部會的部分我們是不是最近趕快來啟動幾個部分一個部分包含勞動成本一個部分包含剛剛署長署報告的就是針對稅的部分的成本\n\n19\n00:06:29,438 --> 00:06:53,611\n這個部分看要怎麼降低這個部分我們來協助旅宿業者讓他能夠降低成本這是一方面那二方面其實台灣目前確實啦五六日假日的房價確實是相對比較高那一到四是相對是比較低的那大家很習慣都是五六日出遊所以當然是價格比較高不過我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館平價的飯店那這個部分我有請觀光署我們大家來整合一下怎麼讓民眾\n\n20\n00:06:54,531 --> 00:06:57,874\n委員黃健豪等17人及其他隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌\n\n21\n00:07:14,189 --> 00:07:42,781\n一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九旅館業而已因為觀光帶來是周邊很多的效應不是只有住宿而已所以這部分要請你們盡快處理那再來就是今天也要談到這個所謂假車牌的問題我也是感謝交通部這樣可以有新聞看得出來你們從善如流願意來採納相關的修法建議那當然這到底從過去幾年下來這個假車牌今年突然暴增我想問一下交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今天假車牌的原因增加這麼多\n\n22\n00:07:44,290 --> 00:08:07,962\n假車牌增加的原因幾個方面一方面是針對這個偽造的技術跟偽造的可以買賣的這個平台大家現在日新月異那二方面呢可能是因為這個被扣被扣牌照的數字其實有提升這個部分確實有提升但民眾被扣牌照之後又希望使用那台車子所以他就會來買賣這個所謂的假車牌\n\n23\n00:08:10,603 --> 00:08:40,106\n當然我們今天提出修法希望說能夠去阻斷說假車牌的問題因為交通有交通問題但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了其實最核心的是治安問題當然我們希望說治安當然用治安方式來解決就當然說沒路車輛但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下到底從去年到今年為什麼假車牌你剛剛提到的假車牌的數量為什麼突然暴增這麼多去年就幾百件耶今年已經破千了那這原因到底是什麼是因為交通法規的改變所以導致很多人被扣牌\n\n24\n00:08:40,486 --> 00:08:41,928\n委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、委員黃健豪等17人、\n\n25\n00:08:56,710 --> 00:09:12,735\n還有很多一般的有一些人他不是真的他要犯罪他就是他就是要開車但他的車牌被扣了那到底為什麼車牌被扣我是希望說交通部能夠去檢討一下去想一下什麼原因導致這個車牌被扣那這個原因到底出在哪裡交通部目前有研究過嗎這個部分是不是請市長\n\n26\n00:09:16,511 --> 00:09:42,038\n這部分跟委員報告一下當然就是使用這個假車牌的部分兩個部分嘛這個牌照被吊扣、吊銷或塑銷那另外一個部分就是蓄意可能從事犯罪行為的那個部分那針對這個吊扣、吊銷牌照這個部分那吊扣的部分有一大部分是來自於車輛遇檢的部分所以剛剛委員有提到針對如何讓車主依照規定來這個定期檢驗這個是一個後面要去加強的\n\n27\n00:09:43,018 --> 00:09:43,158\n委員黃健豪等17人、゚\n\n28\n00:10:00,990 --> 00:10:21,136\n我們請局長這邊還是提供啦後續提供給本席說到底你們分析之後到底這今年跟去年差別在哪裡那為什麼今年成長這麼多這個是最主要原因那最後最後我們還是堅持說這個本來上次質詢的時候就提了原來的法則裡面就有沒入車輛那我想問一下現在的執行所謂沒入車輛會不會有困難就是懸掛假車牌偽造車牌跟委員報告應該沒有困難\n\n29\n00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:31,283\n好,那我們就確定的執行好不好?還是。好,謝謝。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5100\t15527\t好,謝謝主席喔,那我們先請交通部陳部長陳部長呃,跟欸?觀光局署長,觀光署署長周署長\n22745\t41303\t好 部長早 署長早首先針對我們還是針對旅館業的部分當然今天會有一個要來審查所謂旅館的這個相關的這個條例那我想確認一下這旅館業裡面這管理規則部分對於消防的法規的部分的設置標準相對一般住宅是比較高的那我想問一下這個署長\n42043\t66464\t過去這些年包含這次所謂列管的這些項目裡面不管是相關大樓也好或是救國團或各項這個活動中心等等的這個列管的這些案例裡面有些過去幾年它通過了那還有一些還沒有通過那我想問一個核心問題在所謂在列管的這些這個住宿型的這個單位裡面他們的消防法規有沒有定期去檢查有沒有符合這個消防的規範\n67550\t86089\t一般來講都是由地方政府去執行那麼都應該要有符合那沒有符合的話地方政府直接開罰了所以第二個部分是應該說他的這個會館的部分跟旅行旅館業的部分大概應該要分開來看待是這樣子\n86730\t113398\t那對旅館業委員所指教的旅館業的部分不管是觀光旅館或是飯店一般旅館跟這個所謂的這個民宿我們都有執行對當然我說今天旅館比如說觀光旅館一般旅館或者是這種民宿有所謂的消防法規嘛那也是規你們在處理那地方政府會查驗他們都合格這沒問題我現在講的是你們列館的所謂的像剛剛提到的在今天修法裡面主要談到的像這個會館\n116900\t130818\t運動活動中心、青年活動中心、救國團、然後還有強革大樓等等的這些他依然有提供住宿那提供住宿的這些機構他的這個消防法規有沒有符合相關規範還是沒有符合所以沒有通過我要問的是這個\n131579\t147210\t我們只主管這個公安旅館跟旅館一般旅館跟民宿那其他的話就要按照相關的法令譬如說香客的部分那當然是內政部在主管所以這個部分應該是都在執行應該都沒有什麼問題\n148789\t168582\t那所以你意思是說像香客大樓它的消防法規有沒有符合可不可以住宿的規範不歸你們處理是不是因為它沒有營業的行為如果營業的行為就屬於我們的規範如果它沒有營業的行為的話那當然就是按照一般的權責單位來做管理\n168942\t194922\t好 謝謝署長那接下來我們討論其他的問題這個觀光逆差的部分我想去年有推估去年是逆差超過4400億元那今年預估會達到7300億元那主要原因有連接一些社群的民調最主要原因大家認為說國內的住宿成本高是主要原因那再來是國外旅遊比台灣便宜那第三個原因是因為國內缺乏新的或新一年的景點所以導致我們這個觀光客逐年\n195542\t208169\t二、黃健豪等17人、 二、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健\n213652\t229660\t其實你看前幾個基本上幾個原因都跟錢就很大很大的關係基本上價錢占了最大的原因不管是出租成本還是國外旅遊的比較便宜或是國內的物價過高等等它都涉及到錢的問題所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分你們有什麼樣的解決方案\n231961\t254230\t這有兩個結構性的問題就是第一個就是現在出國的話大概就是國外啊國跟國之間大概都是航空的費用成本是比較高的那住宿的部分呢在台灣的結構來看我們是看國旅的部分那國旅的話它分兩個一個是平日一個是假日那現在的假日台灣的形態已經是五六日了\n254770\t280230\t那平日是星期一到星期四那如果說平均房價來看那這一個部分呢我們可以看起來跟差異性不大但是因為我們現在旅遊的形態做改變了所以在國旅的部分大概一日遊佔了我們的70%所以我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿主長這個先打斷你一下你剛剛說到這個飛機票問題我想\n282412\t300641\t如果飛機票成本太高我想那是全球的問題不會只有台灣飛出國外的問題但是很顯然是我們出國的人是很多其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多唯獨其他國家來台灣旅遊的人數變得少問題在這邊所以我想歸咎於機票成本成長我覺得不是主因啦\n301581\t328295\t那國內輸出成本的問題也是需要說這個交通部或觀光署啊你們應該去協調不管勞動部也好或經濟部也好其實到底成本成本一定很多原因造成的嘛不是只有不是只有補助可以解決的那到底成本為什麼為什麼會過高你們有沒有找過各單位來來瞭解過還是就是一直發發有一個部分是地價稅跟房屋稅那個逐年都增加的那因為是地方稅那這個對旅館來講他的成本確實是墊高\n329437\t354295\t那這就是你們要去找相關單位來協調嗎?什麼時候會找他們來協調?我們持續都在討論什麼時候?有嗎?你們有開過那次的會議嗎?針對房價的部分我們可以專案來開一個會什麼時候?那我們也提供一個網站就是評價的這個我們叫旅宿網然後有些比較優惠的評價其實都在這個網站組長我覺得你現在講的是治標啦就是說第一時間我提供這樣就像之前物價上漲的時候提供一個所謂\n355456\t355757\t委員黃健豪等17人、\n371778\t388878\t委員在指示的應該是針對整個旅宿的業者他們的成本如何降低那這個部分有關於跨部會的部分我們是不是最近趕快來啟動幾個部分一個部分包含勞動成本一個部分包含剛剛署長署報告的就是針對稅的部分的成本\n389438\t413611\t這個部分看要怎麼降低這個部分我們來協助旅宿業者讓他能夠降低成本這是一方面那二方面其實台灣目前確實啦五六日假日的房價確實是相對比較高那一到四是相對是比較低的那大家很習慣都是五六日出遊所以當然是價格比較高不過我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館平價的飯店那這個部分我有請觀光署我們大家來整合一下怎麼讓民眾\n414531\t417874\t委員黃健豪等17人及其他隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌\n434189\t462781\t一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九旅館業而已因為觀光帶來是周邊很多的效應不是只有住宿而已所以這部分要請你們盡快處理那再來就是今天也要談到這個所謂假車牌的問題我也是感謝交通部這樣可以有新聞看得出來你們從善如流願意來採納相關的修法建議那當然這到底從過去幾年下來這個假車牌今年突然暴增我想問一下交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今天假車牌的原因增加這麼多\n464290\t487962\t假車牌增加的原因幾個方面一方面是針對這個偽造的技術跟偽造的可以買賣的這個平台大家現在日新月異那二方面呢可能是因為這個被扣被扣牌照的數字其實有提升這個部分確實有提升但民眾被扣牌照之後又希望使用那台車子所以他就會來買賣這個所謂的假車牌\n490603\t520106\t當然我們今天提出修法希望說能夠去阻斷說假車牌的問題因為交通有交通問題但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了其實最核心的是治安問題當然我們希望說治安當然用治安方式來解決就當然說沒路車輛但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下到底從去年到今年為什麼假車牌你剛剛提到的假車牌的數量為什麼突然暴增這麼多去年就幾百件耶今年已經破千了那這原因到底是什麼是因為交通法規的改變所以導致很多人被扣牌\n520486\t521928\t委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、\n536710\t552735\t還有很多一般的有一些人他不是真的他要犯罪他就是他就是要開車但他的車牌被扣了那到底為什麼車牌被扣我是希望說交通部能夠去檢討一下去想一下什麼原因導致這個車牌被扣那這個原因到底出在哪裡交通部目前有研究過嗎這個部分是不是請市長\n556511\t582038\t這部分跟委員報告一下當然就是使用這個假車牌的部分兩個部分嘛這個牌照被吊扣、吊銷或塑銷那另外一個部分就是蓄意可能從事犯罪行為的那個部分那針對這個吊扣、吊銷牌照這個部分那吊扣的部分有一大部分是來自於車輛遇檢的部分所以剛剛委員有提到針對如何讓車主依照規定來這個定期檢驗這個是一個後面要去加強的\n583018\t583158\t委員黃健豪等17人、゚\n600990\t621136\t我們請局長這邊還是提供啦後續提供給本席說到底你們分析之後到底這今年跟去年差別在哪裡那為什麼今年成長這麼多這個是最主要原因那最後最後我們還是堅持說這個本來上次質詢的時候就提了原來的法則裡面就有沒入車輛那我想問一下現在的執行所謂沒入車輛會不會有困難就是懸掛假車牌偽造車牌跟委員報告應該沒有困難\n629229\t631283\t好,那我們就確定的執行好不好?還是。好,謝謝。\n","txt":"好,謝謝主席喔,那我們先請交通部陳部長陳部長呃,跟欸?觀光局署長,觀光署署長周署長\n好 部長早 署長早首先針對我們還是針對旅館業的部分當然今天會有一個要來審查所謂旅館的這個相關的這個條例那我想確認一下這旅館業裡面這管理規則部分對於消防的法規的部分的設置標準相對一般住宅是比較高的那我想問一下這個署長\n過去這些年包含這次所謂列管的這些項目裡面不管是相關大樓也好或是救國團或各項這個活動中心等等的這個列管的這些案例裡面有些過去幾年它通過了那還有一些還沒有通過那我想問一個核心問題在所謂在列管的這些這個住宿型的這個單位裡面他們的消防法規有沒有定期去檢查有沒有符合這個消防的規範\n一般來講都是由地方政府去執行那麼都應該要有符合那沒有符合的話地方政府直接開罰了所以第二個部分是應該說他的這個會館的部分跟旅行旅館業的部分大概應該要分開來看待是這樣子\n那對旅館業委員所指教的旅館業的部分不管是觀光旅館或是飯店一般旅館跟這個所謂的這個民宿我們都有執行對當然我說今天旅館比如說觀光旅館一般旅館或者是這種民宿有所謂的消防法規嘛那也是規你們在處理那地方政府會查驗他們都合格這沒問題我現在講的是你們列館的所謂的像剛剛提到的在今天修法裡面主要談到的像這個會館\n運動活動中心、青年活動中心、救國團、然後還有強革大樓等等的這些他依然有提供住宿那提供住宿的這些機構他的這個消防法規有沒有符合相關規範還是沒有符合所以沒有通過我要問的是這個\n我們只主管這個公安旅館跟旅館一般旅館跟民宿那其他的話就要按照相關的法令譬如說香客的部分那當然是內政部在主管所以這個部分應該是都在執行應該都沒有什麼問題\n那所以你意思是說像香客大樓它的消防法規有沒有符合可不可以住宿的規範不歸你們處理是不是因為它沒有營業的行為如果營業的行為就屬於我們的規範如果它沒有營業的行為的話那當然就是按照一般的權責單位來做管理\n好 謝謝署長那接下來我們討論其他的問題這個觀光逆差的部分我想去年有推估去年是逆差超過4400億元那今年預估會達到7300億元那主要原因有連接一些社群的民調最主要原因大家認為說國內的住宿成本高是主要原因那再來是國外旅遊比台灣便宜那第三個原因是因為國內缺乏新的或新一年的景點所以導致我們這個觀光客逐年\n二、黃健豪等17人、 二、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 五、黃健豪等17人、 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五、黃健\n其實你看前幾個基本上幾個原因都跟錢就很大很大的關係基本上價錢占了最大的原因不管是出租成本還是國外旅遊的比較便宜或是國內的物價過高等等它都涉及到錢的問題所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分你們有什麼樣的解決方案\n這有兩個結構性的問題就是第一個就是現在出國的話大概就是國外啊國跟國之間大概都是航空的費用成本是比較高的那住宿的部分呢在台灣的結構來看我們是看國旅的部分那國旅的話它分兩個一個是平日一個是假日那現在的假日台灣的形態已經是五六日了\n那平日是星期一到星期四那如果說平均房價來看那這一個部分呢我們可以看起來跟差異性不大但是因為我們現在旅遊的形態做改變了所以在國旅的部分大概一日遊佔了我們的70%所以我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿主長這個先打斷你一下你剛剛說到這個飛機票問題我想\n如果飛機票成本太高我想那是全球的問題不會只有台灣飛出國外的問題但是很顯然是我們出國的人是很多其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多唯獨其他國家來台灣旅遊的人數變得少問題在這邊所以我想歸咎於機票成本成長我覺得不是主因啦\n那國內輸出成本的問題也是需要說這個交通部或觀光署啊你們應該去協調不管勞動部也好或經濟部也好其實到底成本成本一定很多原因造成的嘛不是只有不是只有補助可以解決的那到底成本為什麼為什麼會過高你們有沒有找過各單位來來瞭解過還是就是一直發發有一個部分是地價稅跟房屋稅那個逐年都增加的那因為是地方稅那這個對旅館來講他的成本確實是墊高\n那這就是你們要去找相關單位來協調嗎?什麼時候會找他們來協調?我們持續都在討論什麼時候?有嗎?你們有開過那次的會議嗎?針對房價的部分我們可以專案來開一個會什麼時候?那我們也提供一個網站就是評價的這個我們叫旅宿網然後有些比較優惠的評價其實都在這個網站組長我覺得你現在講的是治標啦就是說第一時間我提供這樣就像之前物價上漲的時候提供一個所謂\n委員黃健豪等17人、\n委員在指示的應該是針對整個旅宿的業者他們的成本如何降低那這個部分有關於跨部會的部分我們是不是最近趕快來啟動幾個部分一個部分包含勞動成本一個部分包含剛剛署長署報告的就是針對稅的部分的成本\n這個部分看要怎麼降低這個部分我們來協助旅宿業者讓他能夠降低成本這是一方面那二方面其實台灣目前確實啦五六日假日的房價確實是相對比較高那一到四是相對是比較低的那大家很習慣都是五六日出遊所以當然是價格比較高不過我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館平價的飯店那這個部分我有請觀光署我們大家來整合一下怎麼讓民眾\n委員黃健豪等17人及其他隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌\n一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九旅館業而已因為觀光帶來是周邊很多的效應不是只有住宿而已所以這部分要請你們盡快處理那再來就是今天也要談到這個所謂假車牌的問題我也是感謝交通部這樣可以有新聞看得出來你們從善如流願意來採納相關的修法建議那當然這到底從過去幾年下來這個假車牌今年突然暴增我想問一下交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今天假車牌的原因增加這麼多\n假車牌增加的原因幾個方面一方面是針對這個偽造的技術跟偽造的可以買賣的這個平台大家現在日新月異那二方面呢可能是因為這個被扣被扣牌照的數字其實有提升這個部分確實有提升但民眾被扣牌照之後又希望使用那台車子所以他就會來買賣這個所謂的假車牌\n當然我們今天提出修法希望說能夠去阻斷說假車牌的問題因為交通有交通問題但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了其實最核心的是治安問題當然我們希望說治安當然用治安方式來解決就當然說沒路車輛但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下到底從去年到今年為什麼假車牌你剛剛提到的假車牌的數量為什麼突然暴增這麼多去年就幾百件耶今年已經破千了那這原因到底是什麼是因為交通法規的改變所以導致很多人被扣牌\n委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、 委員黃健豪等17人、\n還有很多一般的有一些人他不是真的他要犯罪他就是他就是要開車但他的車牌被扣了那到底為什麼車牌被扣我是希望說交通部能夠去檢討一下去想一下什麼原因導致這個車牌被扣那這個原因到底出在哪裡交通部目前有研究過嗎這個部分是不是請市長\n這部分跟委員報告一下當然就是使用這個假車牌的部分兩個部分嘛這個牌照被吊扣、吊銷或塑銷那另外一個部分就是蓄意可能從事犯罪行為的那個部分那針對這個吊扣、吊銷牌照這個部分那吊扣的部分有一大部分是來自於車輛遇檢的部分所以剛剛委員有提到針對如何讓車主依照規定來這個定期檢驗這個是一個後面要去加強的\n委員黃健豪等17人、゚\n我們請局長這邊還是提供啦後續提供給本席說到底你們分析之後到底這今年跟去年差別在哪裡那為什麼今年成長這麼多這個是最主要原因那最後最後我們還是堅持說這個本來上次質詢的時候就提了原來的法則裡面就有沒入車輛那我想問一下現在的執行所謂沒入車輛會不會有困難就是懸掛假車牌偽造車牌跟委員報告應該沒有困難\n好,那我們就確定的執行好不好?還是。好,謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.100 --> 00:15.527\n好,謝謝主席喔,那我們先請交通部陳部長陳部長呃,跟欸?觀光局署長,觀光署署長周署長\n\n00:22.745 --> 00:41.303\n好部長早署長早首先針對我們還是針對旅館業的部分當然今天會有一個要來審查所謂旅館的這個相關的這個條例那我想確認一下這旅館業裡面這管理規則部分對於消防的法規的部分的設置標準相對一般住宅是比較高的那我想問一下這個署長\n\n00:42.043 --> 01:06.464\n過去這些年包含這次所謂列管的這些項目裡面不管是相關大樓也好或是救國團或各項這個活動中心等等的這個列管的這些案例裡面有些過去幾年它通過了那還有一些還沒有通過那我想問一個核心問題在所謂在列管的這些這個住宿型的這個單位裡面他們的消防法規有沒有定期去檢查有沒有符合這個消防的規範\n\n01:07.550 --> 01:26.089\n一般來講都是由地方政府去執行那麼都應該要有符合那沒有符合的話地方政府直接開罰了所以第二個部分是應該說他的這個會館的部分跟旅行旅館業的部分大概應該要分開來看待是這樣子\n\n01:26.730 --> 01:53.398\n那對旅館業委員所指教的旅館業的部分不管是觀光旅館或是飯店一般旅館跟這個所謂的這個民宿我們都有執行對當然我說今天旅館比如說觀光旅館一般旅館或者是這種民宿有所謂的消防法規嘛那也是規你們在處理那地方政府會查驗他們都合格這沒問題我現在講的是你們列館的所謂的像剛剛提到的在今天修法裡面主要談到的像這個會館\n\n01:56.900 --> 02:10.818\n運動活動中心、青年活動中心、救國團、然後還有強革大樓等等的這些他依然有提供住宿那提供住宿的這些機構他的這個消防法規有沒有符合相關規範還是沒有符合所以沒有通過我要問的是這個\n\n02:11.579 --> 02:27.210\n我們只主管這個公安旅館跟旅館一般旅館跟民宿那其他的話就要按照相關的法令譬如說香客的部分那當然是內政部在主管所以這個部分應該是都在執行應該都沒有什麼問題\n\n02:28.789 --> 02:48.582\n那所以你意思是說像香客大樓它的消防法規有沒有符合可不可以住宿的規範不歸你們處理是不是因為它沒有營業的行為如果營業的行為就屬於我們的規範如果它沒有營業的行為的話那當然就是按照一般的權責單位來做管理\n\n02:48.942 --> 03:14.922\n好謝謝署長那接下來我們討論其他的問題這個觀光逆差的部分我想去年有推估去年是逆差超過4400億元那今年預估會達到7300億元那主要原因有連接一些社群的民調最主要原因大家認為說國內的住宿成本高是主要原因那再來是國外旅遊比台灣便宜那第三個原因是因為國內缺乏新的或新一年的景點所以導致我們這個觀光客逐年\n\n03:15.542 --> 03:28.169\n二、黃健豪等17人、二、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健豪等17人、五、黃健\n\n03:33.652 --> 03:49.660\n其實你看前幾個基本上幾個原因都跟錢就很大很大的關係基本上價錢占了最大的原因不管是出租成本還是國外旅遊的比較便宜或是國內的物價過高等等它都涉及到錢的問題所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分你們有什麼樣的解決方案\n\n03:51.961 --> 04:14.230\n這有兩個結構性的問題就是第一個就是現在出國的話大概就是國外啊國跟國之間大概都是航空的費用成本是比較高的那住宿的部分呢在台灣的結構來看我們是看國旅的部分那國旅的話它分兩個一個是平日一個是假日那現在的假日台灣的形態已經是五六日了\n\n04:14.770 --> 04:40.230\n那平日是星期一到星期四那如果說平均房價來看那這一個部分呢我們可以看起來跟差異性不大但是因為我們現在旅遊的形態做改變了所以在國旅的部分大概一日遊佔了我們的70%所以我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿主長這個先打斷你一下你剛剛說到這個飛機票問題我想\n\n04:42.412 --> 05:00.641\n如果飛機票成本太高我想那是全球的問題不會只有台灣飛出國外的問題但是很顯然是我們出國的人是很多其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多唯獨其他國家來台灣旅遊的人數變得少問題在這邊所以我想歸咎於機票成本成長我覺得不是主因啦\n\n05:01.581 --> 05:28.295\n那國內輸出成本的問題也是需要說這個交通部或觀光署啊你們應該去協調不管勞動部也好或經濟部也好其實到底成本成本一定很多原因造成的嘛不是只有不是只有補助可以解決的那到底成本為什麼為什麼會過高你們有沒有找過各單位來來瞭解過還是就是一直發發有一個部分是地價稅跟房屋稅那個逐年都增加的那因為是地方稅那這個對旅館來講他的成本確實是墊高\n\n05:29.437 --> 05:54.295\n那這就是你們要去找相關單位來協調嗎?什麼時候會找他們來協調?我們持續都在討論什麼時候?有嗎?你們有開過那次的會議嗎?針對房價的部分我們可以專案來開一個會什麼時候?那我們也提供一個網站就是評價的這個我們叫旅宿網然後有些比較優惠的評價其實都在這個網站組長我覺得你現在講的是治標啦就是說第一時間我提供這樣就像之前物價上漲的時候提供一個所謂\n\n05:55.456 --> 05:55.757\n委員黃健豪等17人、\n\n06:11.778 --> 06:28.878\n委員在指示的應該是針對整個旅宿的業者他們的成本如何降低那這個部分有關於跨部會的部分我們是不是最近趕快來啟動幾個部分一個部分包含勞動成本一個部分包含剛剛署長署報告的就是針對稅的部分的成本\n\n06:29.438 --> 06:53.611\n這個部分看要怎麼降低這個部分我們來協助旅宿業者讓他能夠降低成本這是一方面那二方面其實台灣目前確實啦五六日假日的房價確實是相對比較高那一到四是相對是比較低的那大家很習慣都是五六日出遊所以當然是價格比較高不過我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館平價的飯店那這個部分我有請觀光署我們大家來整合一下怎麼讓民眾\n\n06:54.531 --> 06:57.874\n委員黃健豪等17人及其他隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌\n\n07:14.189 --> 07:42.781\n一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九旅館業而已因為觀光帶來是周邊很多的效應不是只有住宿而已所以這部分要請你們盡快處理那再來就是今天也要談到這個所謂假車牌的問題我也是感謝交通部這樣可以有新聞看得出來你們從善如流願意來採納相關的修法建議那當然這到底從過去幾年下來這個假車牌今年突然暴增我想問一下交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今天假車牌的原因增加這麼多\n\n07:44.290 --> 08:07.962\n假車牌增加的原因幾個方面一方面是針對這個偽造的技術跟偽造的可以買賣的這個平台大家現在日新月異那二方面呢可能是因為這個被扣被扣牌照的數字其實有提升這個部分確實有提升但民眾被扣牌照之後又希望使用那台車子所以他就會來買賣這個所謂的假車牌\n\n08:10.603 --> 08:40.106\n當然我們今天提出修法希望說能夠去阻斷說假車牌的問題因為交通有交通問題但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了其實最核心的是治安問題當然我們希望說治安當然用治安方式來解決就當然說沒路車輛但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下到底從去年到今年為什麼假車牌你剛剛提到的假車牌的數量為什麼突然暴增這麼多去年就幾百件耶今年已經破千了那這原因到底是什麼是因為交通法規的改變所以導致很多人被扣牌\n\n08:40.486 --> 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五、黃健"},{"start":213.652,"end":229.66,"text":"其實你看前幾個基本上幾個原因都跟錢就很大很大的關係基本上價錢占了最大的原因不管是出租成本還是國外旅遊的比較便宜或是國內的物價過高等等它都涉及到錢的問題所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分你們有什麼樣的解決方案"},{"start":231.961,"end":254.23,"text":"這有兩個結構性的問題就是第一個就是現在出國的話大概就是國外啊國跟國之間大概都是航空的費用成本是比較高的那住宿的部分呢在台灣的結構來看我們是看國旅的部分那國旅的話它分兩個一個是平日一個是假日那現在的假日台灣的形態已經是五六日了"},{"start":254.77,"end":280.23,"text":"那平日是星期一到星期四那如果說平均房價來看那這一個部分呢我們可以看起來跟差異性不大但是因為我們現在旅遊的形態做改變了所以在國旅的部分大概一日遊佔了我們的70%所以我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿主長這個先打斷你一下你剛剛說到這個飛機票問題我想"},{"start":282.412,"end":300.641,"text":"如果飛機票成本太高我想那是全球的問題不會只有台灣飛出國外的問題但是很顯然是我們出國的人是很多其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多唯獨其他國家來台灣旅遊的人數變得少問題在這邊所以我想歸咎於機票成本成長我覺得不是主因啦"},{"start":301.581,"end":328.295,"text":"那國內輸出成本的問題也是需要說這個交通部或觀光署啊你們應該去協調不管勞動部也好或經濟部也好其實到底成本成本一定很多原因造成的嘛不是只有不是只有補助可以解決的那到底成本為什麼為什麼會過高你們有沒有找過各單位來來瞭解過還是就是一直發發有一個部分是地價稅跟房屋稅那個逐年都增加的那因為是地方稅那這個對旅館來講他的成本確實是墊高"},{"start":329.437,"end":354.295,"text":"那這就是你們要去找相關單位來協調嗎?什麼時候會找他們來協調?我們持續都在討論什麼時候?有嗎?你們有開過那次的會議嗎?針對房價的部分我們可以專案來開一個會什麼時候?那我們也提供一個網站就是評價的這個我們叫旅宿網然後有些比較優惠的評價其實都在這個網站組長我覺得你現在講的是治標啦就是說第一時間我提供這樣就像之前物價上漲的時候提供一個所謂"},{"start":355.456,"end":355.757,"text":"委員黃健豪等17人、"},{"start":371.778,"end":388.878,"text":"委員在指示的應該是針對整個旅宿的業者他們的成本如何降低那這個部分有關於跨部會的部分我們是不是最近趕快來啟動幾個部分一個部分包含勞動成本一個部分包含剛剛署長署報告的就是針對稅的部分的成本"},{"start":389.438,"end":413.611,"text":"這個部分看要怎麼降低這個部分我們來協助旅宿業者讓他能夠降低成本這是一方面那二方面其實台灣目前確實啦五六日假日的房價確實是相對比較高那一到四是相對是比較低的那大家很習慣都是五六日出遊所以當然是價格比較高不過我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館平價的飯店那這個部分我有請觀光署我們大家來整合一下怎麼讓民眾"},{"start":414.531,"end":417.874,"text":"委員黃健豪等17人及其他隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌方式之查緝與防制暫停車牌"},{"start":434.189,"end":462.781,"text":"一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九旅館業而已因為觀光帶來是周邊很多的效應不是只有住宿而已所以這部分要請你們盡快處理那再來就是今天也要談到這個所謂假車牌的問題我也是感謝交通部這樣可以有新聞看得出來你們從善如流願意來採納相關的修法建議那當然這到底從過去幾年下來這個假車牌今年突然暴增我想問一下交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今天假車牌的原因增加這麼多"},{"start":464.29,"end":487.962,"text":"假車牌增加的原因幾個方面一方面是針對這個偽造的技術跟偽造的可以買賣的這個平台大家現在日新月異那二方面呢可能是因為這個被扣被扣牌照的數字其實有提升這個部分確實有提升但民眾被扣牌照之後又希望使用那台車子所以他就會來買賣這個所謂的假車牌"},{"start":490.603,"end":520.106,"text":"當然我們今天提出修法希望說能夠去阻斷說假車牌的問題因為交通有交通問題但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了其實最核心的是治安問題當然我們希望說治安當然用治安方式來解決就當然說沒路車輛但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下到底從去年到今年為什麼假車牌你剛剛提到的假車牌的數量為什麼突然暴增這麼多去年就幾百件耶今年已經破千了那這原因到底是什麼是因為交通法規的改變所以導致很多人被扣牌"},{"start":520.486,"end":521.928,"text":"委員黃健豪等17人、 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委員黃健豪等17人、"},{"start":536.71,"end":552.735,"text":"還有很多一般的有一些人他不是真的他要犯罪他就是他就是要開車但他的車牌被扣了那到底為什麼車牌被扣我是希望說交通部能夠去檢討一下去想一下什麼原因導致這個車牌被扣那這個原因到底出在哪裡交通部目前有研究過嗎這個部分是不是請市長"},{"start":556.511,"end":582.038,"text":"這部分跟委員報告一下當然就是使用這個假車牌的部分兩個部分嘛這個牌照被吊扣、吊銷或塑銷那另外一個部分就是蓄意可能從事犯罪行為的那個部分那針對這個吊扣、吊銷牌照這個部分那吊扣的部分有一大部分是來自於車輛遇檢的部分所以剛剛委員有提到針對如何讓車主依照規定來這個定期檢驗這個是一個後面要去加強的"},{"start":583.018,"end":583.158,"text":"委員黃健豪等17人、゚"},{"start":600.99,"end":621.136,"text":"我們請局長這邊還是提供啦後續提供給本席說到底你們分析之後到底這今年跟去年差別在哪裡那為什麼今年成長這麼多這個是最主要原因那最後最後我們還是堅持說這個本來上次質詢的時候就提了原來的法則裡面就有沒入車輛那我想問一下現在的執行所謂沒入車輛會不會有困難就是懸掛假車牌偽造車牌跟委員報告應該沒有困難"},{"start":629.229,"end":631.283,"text":"好,那我們就確定的執行好不好?還是。好,謝謝。"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":382,"blocks":[["黃委員健豪：（10時57分）謝謝主席，我們先請交通部陳部長、觀光署周署長。"],["主席：請陳部長、觀光署署長。"],["周署長永暉：委員好。"],["陳部長世凱：委員好。"],["黃委員健豪：部長早、署長早。首先，針對旅館業的部分，今天要審查所謂的旅館相關條例，我想確認一下，旅館業管理規則裡面對於消防法規設置標準相對一般住宅是比較高的，請問署長，過去這些年包含這次列管的項目裡面，不管是香客大樓、救國團或各項活動中心等等列管的這些案例裡面，有些是在過去幾年它通過了，還有一些還沒有通過，我想問一個核心問題，在列管的這些住宿型單位裡面，他們的消防法規有沒有定期檢查，有沒有符合消防的規範？"],["周署長永暉：一般來講都是由地方政府去執行，都應該要符合，沒有符合的話，地方政府會直接開罰。第二個部分，會館和旅館業的部分應該要分開來看待，對於委員所指教的旅館業部分，不管是觀光旅館或是飯店、一般旅館和所謂的民宿，我們都有執行。"],["黃委員健豪：當然，觀光旅館、一般旅館或是民宿有所謂的消防法規，這也是歸你們處理，地方政府會去查驗他們是否都合格，這個沒問題，我現在講的是你們列管的，像剛剛提到的，在今天修法裡面主要談到的如會館、活動中心、救國團及香客大樓等等，這些依然有提供住宿，這些提供住宿機構的消防法規有沒有符合相關規範？還是因為沒有符合所以沒有通過？我要問的是這個。"],["周署長永暉：我們只主管觀光旅館、一般旅館跟民宿，其他的話就要按照相關的法令，譬如香客大樓的部分，當然是內政部在主管，所以這個部分應該是都在執行，應該都沒有什麼問題。"],["黃委員健豪：對不起，所以你意思是說，像香客大樓的消防法規有沒有符合、可不可以住宿的規範不歸你們處理？"],["周署長永暉：因為他沒有營業的行為，如果有營業的行為就屬於我們的規範，如果他沒有營業的行為，那當然就是按照一般的權責單位來做管理。"],["黃委員健豪：好，謝謝署長。接下來我們討論其他的問題，關於觀光逆差部分，我想去年有推估逆差超過4,400億元，今年預估會達到7,300億元，根據一些社群的民調，大家認為國內住宿成本高是主要原因，再來是國外旅遊比臺灣便宜，第三個原因是國內缺乏新的或吸引人的景點，所以導致觀光客逐年下降，不管是國外來臺人數逐年下降之外，國旅也一直提振不起來，當然也是因為這樣子，我們的旅宿業也是叫苦連天。國內住宿成本高跟國外旅遊較便宜這部分，我不知道交通部跟觀光署你們要怎麼樣解決民眾的問題？其實看前幾個原因，基本上都跟錢有很大很大的關係，價錢占最大原因，不管是住宿成本還是國外旅遊比較便宜，或是國內物價過高等等，它都涉及到錢的問題，所以我不知道到底交通部跟觀光署面對我們觀光衰退這部分有什麼樣的解決方案？"],["周署長永暉：這有兩個結構性的問題，第一個就是現在出國，在國外、國跟國之間，航空的費用成本大概都是比較高的；住宿的部分，在臺灣的結構來看，我們是看國旅，國旅的話分兩個，一個是平日，一個是假日，現在的假日依臺灣的型態已經是五、六、日，平日是星期一到星期四，如果以平均房價來看，這部分我們看起來差異性不大，但是因為現在旅遊型態改變，所以在國旅一日遊大概占了70%，我們一直希望國內旅遊能夠增加住宿，希望……"],["黃委員健豪：署長，先打斷你一下，你剛剛說到飛機票的問題，如果飛機票的成本太高，我想那是全球的問題，不會只有臺灣飛出國外的問題，但很顯然的是，我們出國的人很多，其他國家到其他國家的人數也很多，唯獨其他國家來臺灣旅遊的人數變少，問題在這邊，所以歸咎於機票成本成長，我覺得不是主因。國內住宿成本的問題，也是需要交通部或觀光署去協調，不管勞動部也好或是經濟部也好，其實成本一定是很多原因造成的，不是只有補助可以解決的，到底成本為什麼會過高，你們有沒有找各單位來了解過？還是就是一直發補助而已？"],["周署長永暉：有一部分是地價稅跟房屋稅逐年都增加，那個因為是地方稅，對旅館來講，它的成本確實是墊高，還有一部分……"],["黃委員健豪：那你們就要去找相關單位來協調。"],["周署長永暉：是。"],["黃委員健豪：什麼時候會找他們來協調？"],["周署長永暉：我們持續都在討論。"],["黃委員健豪：什麼時候？有嗎？你們有開過類似的會議嗎？"],["周署長永暉：針對房價，我們可以專案來開一個會。"],["黃委員健豪：什麼時候？你們要不要給個時間？"],["周署長永暉：我們也提供一個網站，就是平價的，叫做旅宿網，有些比較平價優惠的，其實大家可以……"],["黃委員健豪：署長，我覺得你現在講的是治標，就是第一時間提供這樣的網站，就像之前物價上漲時提供一個比較便宜的網站或是便宜的特別區域，但是整體而言，像你剛才提到稅的問題也好，或是人事成本的成長也好，它是整體的嘛，可能偶爾短期促銷可以提供便宜的沒錯，但長期來講，整個成本還是高的，所以今天要問的是，有沒有機會找各單位來？"],["陳部長世凱：委員指示的應該是針對整個旅宿業者成本如何降低，這有關於跨部會的部分，我們是不是最近趕快來啟動。有幾個部分，一部分包含勞動成本，另一部分包含剛才署長所報告的，針對稅的成本，這部分看要怎麼降低，我們來協助旅宿業者，讓他們能夠降低成本，這是一方面；二方面，其實臺灣目前五、六、日也就是假日的房價確實相對比較高，一到四相對比較低，大家都很習慣五、六、日出遊，所以價格當然比較高。不過，我們現在還是有一些比較平價的旅館、平價的飯店，這部分我有請觀光署來整合一下，怎麼讓民眾了解，或者取得比較平價旅館的一些訊息，讓他們如果假日要出遊，不一定只有貴的旅館，他們也有一些平價的旅館可以去，這部分的資訊我們應該要趕快提供給民眾。"],["黃委員健豪：好，謝謝部長，請你們要儘快來處理這個很嚴重的問題，不然這其實衝擊到的是很龐大的就業市場，不是只有旅館業而已，因為觀光帶來很多的周邊效益，不是只有住宿而已，所以這部分要請你們儘快處理。","再來，今天也要談到假車牌的問題，我也感謝交通部，這兩天從新聞看得出來你們從善如流，願意採納相關的修法建議。過去幾年下來，假車牌在今年突然暴增，我想問一下，交通部有沒有掌握到底什麼原因導致今年假車牌增加這麼多？"],["陳部長世凱：假車牌增加的原因有幾個方面，一方面是針對偽造的技術跟可以買賣的平臺現在日新月異；二方面，可能是因為被扣牌照的數字提升，這個部分確實有提升，但民眾被扣牌照之後，又希望使用那臺車子，所以他就會買賣假車牌。"],["黃委員健豪：我們今天提出修法，希望能夠阻斷假車牌的問題，因為交通有交通的問題，但是我們剛剛在提案說明的時候也提過了，其實最核心的是治安問題，當然我們希望治安用治安的方式解決，也就是沒入車輛，但是我們還是希望交通部去想一下，從去年到今年，你剛剛提到的，到底為什麼假車牌的數量會突然暴增這麼多？去年就幾百件，今年已經破千了，這原因到底是什麼？是因為交通法規的改變，所以導致很多人被扣牌，那是交通法規的問題呢，還是我國國人駕駛觀念有問題？如果是國人駕駛觀念有問題的話，是不是取得駕照的成本太低了？所以我希望交通部在這個事件上面，除了看到數字是假車牌很多、破千件，可能影響治安之外，還有很多一般的……有一些人他不是真的要犯罪，他就是要開車，但他的車牌被扣了，到底為什麼車牌被扣？我希望交通部能夠去檢討一下，去想一下什麼原因導致車牌被扣？這個原因到底出在哪裡？交通部目前有研究過嗎？"],["林司長福山：跟委員報告，使用假車牌的有兩個部分，牌照被吊扣、吊銷或註銷，另外一個就是蓄意從事犯罪行為。針對吊扣、吊銷牌照這部分，吊扣有一大部分是來自於車輛逾檢，所以剛剛委員提到，針對如何讓車主依照規定定期檢驗，這是後面要去加強的重點。另外一個部分，現行如果吊扣牌照超過3個月以上，大概就是比較重的，像酒駕跟危險駕駛，酒駕的案件數是逐年降低的，而危險駕駛的部分……"],["黃委員健豪：沒關係，我請局長後續提供給本席，你們分析之後，到底今年跟去年差別在哪裡，為什麼今年成長這麼多？這是最主要原因。最後，我還是堅持，上次質詢時就提到的，原來的罰則裡面就有沒入車輛，我想問一下，現在執行沒入車輛會不會有困難？針對懸掛假車牌、偽造車牌。"],["林司長福山：跟委員報告，應該沒有困難。"],["黃委員健豪：好，那就確定來執行，好不好？"],["林司長福山：是。"],["黃委員健豪：好，謝謝。"],["陳部長世凱：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝黃健豪委員。","接下來有請林俊憲委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":290,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-23-10","speakers":["魯明哲","林德福","洪孟楷","鍾佳濱","黃健豪","游顥","許宇甄","林倩綺","林國成","林沛祥","李昆澤","徐富癸","陳素月","林俊憲","蔡其昌","何欣純","陳雪生","許智傑","邱若華","賴士葆","羅智強","賴惠員","楊瓊瓔","吳春城","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","李坤城","林月琴","陳培瑜","鄭正鈐","陳冠廷"],"page_start":151,"meetingDate":["2024-11-18"],"gazette_id":"11310302","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310302_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部公路局局長、法務部及內政部警政署就「偽變造車牌或其它\n隱匿車牌方式之查緝與防制暨如何有效杜絕無照駕駛猖獗之亂象」進行專題報告，並備質詢；\n二、審查(一)委員洪孟楷等24人、(二)委員黃健豪等17人、(三)委員林俊憲等17人、(四)委員王\n鴻薇等18人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條條文修正草案」案、(五)委員鍾佳濱等19\n人、(六)委員許宇甄等17人、(七)委員陳素月等20人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條\n及第十二條之一條文修正草案」案、(八)委員林德福等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二\n條及第十三條條文修正草案」案、(九)委員徐富癸等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條\n及第十五條條文修正草案」案；三、審查(一)委員傅崐萁等20人、(二)委員陳雪生等29人分別擬\n具「發展觀光條例第二條及第七十條之二條文修正草案」案、(三)委員許宇甄等20人擬具「發展\n觀光條例第四條、第五十三條及第七十條之二條文修正草案」案、(四)委員林倩綺等21人擬具\n「發展觀光條例第三十六條及第六十條條文修正草案」案、(五)委員王美惠等16人擬具「發展觀\n光條例部分條文修正草案」案、(六)委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等20人擬具「發展觀光條\n例第五十五條、第五十五條之一及第五十五條之三條文修正草案」案及(七)委員游顥等38人擬具\n「發展觀光條例第七十條之二條文修正草案」案","agenda_id":"11310302_00002"}}}