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00:01:20,301\n那現在呢在針對網路銷售的這一個部分要怎麼阻絕第一個我提我看到公路局給我們一個資料10月17號建立一個所謂的網路平台的巡查程式是嗎?局長是網路的巡查平台對10月17號開始\n\n5\n00:01:25,707 --> 00:01:54,477\n這一個網路的平台的查詢程式的查貨並通知業者下架512件還沒請到上議院那這一個512件裡面那為什麼到現在連有委員跟其他委員跟我都在網路上還看得到是網路平台不配合呢下架不夠快嗎包括數位發展部都說有跟其他這些社群網路平台呢有建立一個通報下架的窗口那包括Yahoo\n\n6\n00:01:55,197 --> 00:02:04,508\n等等的這個網購的平台也都說願意配合但是速發部那邊給我們的資料是下架41件一個下架512件一個下架41件部長這個數字你滿意嗎?\n\n7\n00:02:10,632 --> 00:02:25,851\n五百一十二件是我們通知啦通知而已還沒有下架嘛對不對那速發部那邊是實際有下架的是41件但你看喔光是這兩個數字就告訴我們什麼這下架的效率有夠慢\n\n8\n00:02:26,912 --> 00:02:54,733\n你已經巡查到了你通知業者要下架512件你通知了那速發部呢負責去溝通建立的通報下架窗口可是已到目前為止我看到的是41件512件裡面只有41件下架那難怪我們委員先在國人在這個平台上面看到可以買這個或甚至能客製化偽造的車牌比比皆是啊\n\n9\n00:02:56,223 --> 00:03:13,168\n部長你認為這該怎麼辦我覺得這個數字上確實有落差但是網購的部分都已經下架了那現在比較麻煩的是他個人的臉書或者是他的LINE的群組的部分這個部分是還沒有處理好那這個部分應該要我們會跟速發部這邊也來協調看一下怎麼樣加強所以你要怎麼辦\n\n10\n00:03:17,433 --> 00:03:41,679\n我認為警政署可能也有拜託一起啦警政署也有一個通報下架的窗口嘛那至於呢這個速發部跟警政署跟我們交通部拜託你們跨部會去這不是只有喝咖啡聊天的事情而已這是非常要審慎的去面對而且要積極的查處跟解決問題啊不然的話你看這數字落差這麼大\n\n11\n00:03:42,819 --> 00:04:01,693\n好部長這是第一個第二個我要跟你講一件事我們要查假車牌之前要先比對比對它是正還是假那就是什麼建立資料庫以你們現在有建立的資料庫有兩件事一個是公務局說建立一個疑似偽造號牌的揮名單揮名單那目前在這個揮名單裡面偽變造、吊銷、註銷會繳回等等是不是171筆\n\n12\n00:04:13,489 --> 00:04:38,103\n應該不只啦。灰名單是171筆。各位報告。來,我現在就是要跟你探討這件事嘛。你所謂的疑似偽造號牌灰名單,現在的171筆,這個到底包含什麼東西嗎?因為你說要交由警察機關或停管機關要合作,要把這個灰名單提供給警政單位,就是警政署來建立所謂的AI巡防系統。\n\n13\n00:04:38,923 --> 00:04:54,564\n各位網友我們現在所有的就是車牌被吊扣、吊銷、註銷因為代表就是說他車子不能再用了所以他比較有機會說他可能會去使用假車牌所以這個吊註銷的這個大概幾十萬筆的資料全部都有給警察機關\n\n14\n00:04:56,325 --> 00:05:19,292\n另外171筆是民眾就是說因為他已經來就是說他來報案申訴說我的車牌已經被偽造了所以這個還有另外已經被偽造的171筆那為什麼叫回名單是因為你還沒有辦法證實他到底是不是偽造車牌還是所以像檢察機關其實他們就是說我們把所有的這個資料都已經在他們的AI的資料庫系統所以像檢察機關現在辨別非常快\n\n15\n00:05:20,051 --> 00:05:27,223\n那我可以請教嗎那在公路局像體系下所謂的AI巡防系統圖的這個會名單裡面可能會巡查到的除了ETEC還有哪些系統可以\n\n16\n00:05:32,973 --> 00:05:44,040\n現在其實包括就是說我們警察機關還有監理機關還有這個地方的停管機關大概就是說在路上行走的或是停車的大概就是說那個資料庫裡面都有這一個可能因為你的車牌已經被吊註銷不能所以你不可能在路上還會再行駛嘛所以他一查出來的話就有可能\n\n17\n00:05:58,968 --> 00:06:17,614\n有所謂的疑似偽造號牌的這個回名單也在裡面那我強請教警政署那我們所謂的AI巡防系統我看到在我們這一次總預算裡面你們有編列這樣的預算那一億多對不對副署長知道嗎AI巡防系統\n\n18\n00:06:18,632 --> 00:06:46,084\n我們本來就現在就有在建置警察的補助系統現在就有在建置那交通部給我們的資料我們會輸入進去輸入進去以後我們警方在巡邏的時候透過那個系統如果發現是偽變造車牌就會攔查起地那現在各地各地的這個警察局統統都有這個巡防系統是全國一致還是給地方政府\n\n19\n00:06:47,154 --> 00:06:57,902\n市警局﹖可能就在我們警方的設備裡面在警方全國的設備裡面那只是每年編的預算是要來更新升級我們的AI巡防系統嗎?\n\n20\n00:07:00,407 --> 00:07:26,079\n因為目前那個我剛剛在那個報告裡面的那個系統裡面是現在是有六都裡面有幾個幾部的車裝置在裡面那這個對嘛這個系統部署長你講出真相了那再來明年不是全國都有也不是你剛剛回答我的是在你的警政署的巡防系統裡面耶沒有錯目前是沒有\n\n21\n00:07:26,459 --> 00:07:31,901\n三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、\n\n22\n00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:51,533\n副所長你要先問清楚再來回答我啦因為我看到有這一筆預算嘛那所以你們要建立這個AI巡防系統不是\n\n23\n00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:21,626\n以現有的系統嘛而是你們另外在建制我要跟他說它比較數位化、科技化現代版的一個AI巡防系統以六都才在試辦而且呢全國以六都來講有這個AI巡防系統的警車根本不到10%嘛那你這一筆預算執行下去之後你認為幾年內要建制到\n\n24\n00:08:30,762 --> 00:08:59,138\n百分之百還是你原來的KPI就沒有達到百分之百因為那個有一個中長期計劃啦詳細的計劃我不是很清楚分三年來來來你事後給我這個書面報告我要知道你要建制的期程你即將要花多少預算我什麼時候可以國人可以預期說我可以建立這個全台灣的一個AI巡防的一個聯防系統\n\n25\n00:09:00,118 --> 00:09:25,107\n為什麼這個重要這個要搭配剛剛我問交通部不僅僅是公路局的一個監理系統還有地方政府的庭管系統還有你警政署自己的AI聯防系統這樣子加起來才能夠讓這一個假車牌也好偽造車牌也好我們才能夠真正的去判讀真假也才能夠真正做到百分之百的防堵嘛\n\n26\n00:09:26,227 --> 00:09:29,730\n這個是我們的用意,我希望預算編下去,極快下去,要真的做,要強化數據資料庫,要加速查緝量能,那也才能達到什麼?我們現在不是只有修法,修法當然一定要修,我自己也有提版本,要修刑法、修道教條例,包括我們願意等願版。\n\n27\n00:09:49,429 --> 00:10:13,634\n但是呢要抓得到才能夠罰得到也才能遏止啊執行面也很重要啊是不是部長你同意吧是非常同意委員的說法所以我拜託是不是在接下來用最快的時間最快的速度跟警政署內政部警政署跟我們地方政府還有呢跟相關包括數位發展部很重要我們從源頭到\n\n28\n00:10:16,434 --> 00:10:30,228\n後端的查緝到剛剛說的利用數位化、科技化的一個聯防系統這個每一個事情都很重要都要做到修法當然我們支持好不好是,好,謝謝委員畫布會的聯防我們會來努力謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2888\t17045\t謝謝盧昭偉主席我們是不是請部長好陳部長還有公路局跟警政署警政署今天是來陳局長李副署長副署長好部長好局長好來副署長好\n18246\t22827\t謝謝部長我想今天很多委員跟本席一樣都在關心這個假車牌的問題那假車牌媒體報導也很多那我們也相信我們警政署也跟各地的警察同仁們也很用心用力的在打擊在抓但是防不勝防剛剛有委員在講即使到現在網路上都還看得到在販賣假車牌\n43112\t52037\t那我現在就要請教我們要打擊假車牌當然修法是我們一定要做的但是上游要防堵下游要查緝那源頭的打這個假車牌查假車牌是第一步對不對這個我想你部長也同意那要怎麼查假車牌以公務局給我們的一個統計數字今天很多委員都提到\n66385\t80301\t那現在呢在針對網路銷售的這一個部分要怎麼阻絕第一個我提我看到公路局給我們一個資料10月17號建立一個所謂的網路平台的巡查程式是嗎?局長是網路的巡查平台對10月17號開始\n85707\t114477\t這一個網路的平台的查詢程式的查貨並通知業者下架512件還沒請到上議院那這一個512件裡面那為什麼到現在連有委員跟其他委員跟我都在網路上還看得到是網路平台不配合呢下架不夠快嗎包括數位發展部都說有跟其他這些社群網路平台呢有建立一個通報下架的窗口那包括Yahoo\n115197\t124508\t等等的這個網購的平台也都說願意配合但是速發部那邊給我們的資料是下架41件一個下架512件一個下架41件部長這個數字你滿意嗎?\n130632\t145851\t五百一十二件是我們通知啦通知而已還沒有下架嘛對不對那速發部那邊是實際有下架的是41件但你看喔光是這兩個數字就告訴我們什麼這下架的效率有夠慢\n146912\t174733\t你已經巡查到了你通知業者要下架512件你通知了那速發部呢負責去溝通建立的通報下架窗口可是已到目前為止我看到的是41件512件裡面只有41件下架那難怪我們委員先在國人在這個平台上面看到可以買這個或甚至能客製化偽造的車牌比比皆是啊\n176223\t193168\t部長你認為這該怎麼辦我覺得這個數字上確實有落差但是網購的部分都已經下架了那現在比較麻煩的是他個人的臉書或者是他的LINE的群組的部分這個部分是還沒有處理好那這個部分應該要我們會跟速發部這邊也來協調看一下怎麼樣加強所以你要怎麼辦\n197433\t221679\t我認為警政署可能也有拜託一起啦警政署也有一個通報下架的窗口嘛那至於呢這個速發部跟警政署跟我們交通部拜託你們跨部會去這不是只有喝咖啡聊天的事情而已這是非常要審慎的去面對而且要積極的查處跟解決問題啊不然的話你看這數字落差這麼大\n222819\t241693\t好部長這是第一個第二個我要跟你講一件事我們要查假車牌之前要先比對比對它是正還是假那就是什麼建立資料庫以你們現在有建立的資料庫有兩件事一個是公務局說建立一個疑似偽造號牌的揮名單揮名單那目前在這個揮名單裡面偽變造、吊銷、註銷會繳回等等是不是171筆\n253489\t278103\t應該不只啦。灰名單是171筆。各位報告。來,我現在就是要跟你探討這件事嘛。你所謂的疑似偽造號牌灰名單,現在的171筆,這個到底包含什麼東西嗎?因為你說要交由警察機關或停管機關要合作,要把這個灰名單提供給警政單位,就是警政署來建立所謂的AI巡防系統。\n278923\t294564\t各位網友我們現在所有的就是車牌被吊扣、吊銷、註銷因為代表就是說他車子不能再用了所以他比較有機會說他可能會去使用假車牌所以這個吊註銷的這個大概幾十萬筆的資料全部都有給警察機關\n296325\t319292\t另外171筆是民眾就是說因為他已經來就是說他來報案申訴說我的車牌已經被偽造了所以這個還有另外已經被偽造的171筆那為什麼叫回名單是因為你還沒有辦法證實他到底是不是偽造車牌還是所以像檢察機關其實他們就是說我們把所有的這個資料都已經在他們的AI的資料庫系統所以像檢察機關現在辨別非常快\n320051\t327223\t那我可以請教嗎那在公路局像體系下所謂的AI巡防系統圖的這個會名單裡面可能會巡查到的除了ETEC還有哪些系統可以\n332973\t344040\t現在其實包括就是說我們警察機關還有監理機關還有這個地方的停管機關大概就是說在路上行走的或是停車的大概就是說那個資料庫裡面都有這一個可能因為你的車牌已經被吊註銷不能所以你不可能在路上還會再行駛嘛所以他一查出來的話就有可能\n358968\t377614\t有所謂的疑似偽造號牌的這個回名單也在裡面那我強請教警政署那我們所謂的AI巡防系統我看到在我們這一次總預算裡面你們有編列這樣的預算那一億多 對不對副署長知道嗎AI巡防系統\n378632\t406084\t我們本來就現在就有在建置警察的補助系統現在就有在建置那交通部給我們的資料我們會輸入進去輸入進去以後我們警方在巡邏的時候透過那個系統如果發現是偽變造車牌就會攔查起地那現在各地各地的這個警察局統統都有這個巡防系統是全國一致還是給地方政府\n407154\t417902\t市警局﹖可能就在我們警方的設備裡面在警方全國的設備裡面那只是每年編的預算是要來更新升級我們的AI巡防系統嗎?\n420407\t446079\t因為目前那個我剛剛在那個報告裡面的那個系統裡面是現在是有六都裡面有幾個幾部的車裝置在裡面那這個對嘛這個系統部署長你講出真相了那再來明年不是全國都有也不是你剛剛回答我的是在你的警政署的巡防系統裡面耶沒有錯目前是沒有\n446459\t451901\t三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、\n466630\t471533\t副所長你要先問清楚再來回答我啦因為我看到有這一筆預算嘛那所以你們要建立這個AI巡防系統不是\n484560\t501626\t以現有的系統嘛而是你們另外在建制我要跟他說它比較數位化、科技化現代版的一個AI巡防系統以六都才在試辦而且呢全國以六都來講有這個AI巡防系統的警車根本不到10%嘛那你這一筆預算執行下去之後你認為幾年內要建制到\n510762\t539138\t百分之百還是你原來的KPI就沒有達到百分之百因為那個有一個中長期計劃啦詳細的計劃我不是很清楚分三年來來來你事後給我這個書面報告我要知道你要建制的期程你即將要花多少預算我什麼時候可以國人可以預期說我可以建立這個全台灣的一個AI巡防的一個聯防系統\n540118\t565107\t為什麼這個重要這個要搭配剛剛我問交通部不僅僅是公路局的一個監理系統還有地方政府的庭管系統還有你警政署自己的AI聯防系統這樣子加起來才能夠讓這一個假車牌也好偽造車牌也好我們才能夠真正的去判讀真假也才能夠真正做到百分之百的防堵嘛\n566227\t569730\t這個是我們的用意,我希望預算編下去,極快下去,要真的做,要強化數據資料庫,要加速查緝量能,那也才能達到什麼?我們現在不是只有修法,修法當然一定要修,我自己也有提版本,要修刑法、修道教條例,包括我們願意等願版。\n589429\t613634\t但是呢要抓得到才能夠罰得到也才能遏止啊執行面也很重要啊是不是部長你同意吧是非常同意委員的說法所以我拜託是不是在接下來用最快的時間最快的速度跟警政署內政部警政署跟我們地方政府還有呢跟相關包括數位發展部很重要我們從源頭到\n616434\t630228\t後端的查緝到剛剛說的利用數位化、科技化的一個聯防系統這個每一個事情都很重要都要做到修法當然我們支持好不好是,好,謝謝委員畫布會的聯防我們會來努力謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝盧昭偉主席我們是不是請部長好陳部長還有公路局跟警政署警政署今天是來陳局長李副署長副署長好部長好局長好來副署長好\n謝謝部長我想今天很多委員跟本席一樣都在關心這個假車牌的問題那假車牌媒體報導也很多那我們也相信我們警政署也跟各地的警察同仁們也很用心用力的在打擊在抓但是防不勝防剛剛有委員在講即使到現在網路上都還看得到在販賣假車牌\n那我現在就要請教我們要打擊假車牌當然修法是我們一定要做的但是上游要防堵下游要查緝那源頭的打這個假車牌查假車牌是第一步對不對這個我想你部長也同意那要怎麼查假車牌以公務局給我們的一個統計數字今天很多委員都提到\n那現在呢在針對網路銷售的這一個部分要怎麼阻絕第一個我提我看到公路局給我們一個資料10月17號建立一個所謂的網路平台的巡查程式是嗎?局長是網路的巡查平台對10月17號開始\n這一個網路的平台的查詢程式的查貨並通知業者下架512件還沒請到上議院那這一個512件裡面那為什麼到現在連有委員跟其他委員跟我都在網路上還看得到是網路平台不配合呢下架不夠快嗎包括數位發展部都說有跟其他這些社群網路平台呢有建立一個通報下架的窗口那包括Yahoo\n等等的這個網購的平台也都說願意配合但是速發部那邊給我們的資料是下架41件一個下架512件一個下架41件部長這個數字你滿意嗎?\n五百一十二件是我們通知啦通知而已還沒有下架嘛對不對那速發部那邊是實際有下架的是41件但你看喔光是這兩個數字就告訴我們什麼這下架的效率有夠慢\n你已經巡查到了你通知業者要下架512件你通知了那速發部呢負責去溝通建立的通報下架窗口可是已到目前為止我看到的是41件512件裡面只有41件下架那難怪我們委員先在國人在這個平台上面看到可以買這個或甚至能客製化偽造的車牌比比皆是啊\n部長你認為這該怎麼辦我覺得這個數字上確實有落差但是網購的部分都已經下架了那現在比較麻煩的是他個人的臉書或者是他的LINE的群組的部分這個部分是還沒有處理好那這個部分應該要我們會跟速發部這邊也來協調看一下怎麼樣加強所以你要怎麼辦\n我認為警政署可能也有拜託一起啦警政署也有一個通報下架的窗口嘛那至於呢這個速發部跟警政署跟我們交通部拜託你們跨部會去這不是只有喝咖啡聊天的事情而已這是非常要審慎的去面對而且要積極的查處跟解決問題啊不然的話你看這數字落差這麼大\n好部長這是第一個第二個我要跟你講一件事我們要查假車牌之前要先比對比對它是正還是假那就是什麼建立資料庫以你們現在有建立的資料庫有兩件事一個是公務局說建立一個疑似偽造號牌的揮名單揮名單那目前在這個揮名單裡面偽變造、吊銷、註銷會繳回等等是不是171筆\n應該不只啦。灰名單是171筆。各位報告。來,我現在就是要跟你探討這件事嘛。你所謂的疑似偽造號牌灰名單,現在的171筆,這個到底包含什麼東西嗎?因為你說要交由警察機關或停管機關要合作,要把這個灰名單提供給警政單位,就是警政署來建立所謂的AI巡防系統。\n各位網友我們現在所有的就是車牌被吊扣、吊銷、註銷因為代表就是說他車子不能再用了所以他比較有機會說他可能會去使用假車牌所以這個吊註銷的這個大概幾十萬筆的資料全部都有給警察機關\n另外171筆是民眾就是說因為他已經來就是說他來報案申訴說我的車牌已經被偽造了所以這個還有另外已經被偽造的171筆那為什麼叫回名單是因為你還沒有辦法證實他到底是不是偽造車牌還是所以像檢察機關其實他們就是說我們把所有的這個資料都已經在他們的AI的資料庫系統所以像檢察機關現在辨別非常快\n那我可以請教嗎那在公路局像體系下所謂的AI巡防系統圖的這個會名單裡面可能會巡查到的除了ETEC還有哪些系統可以\n現在其實包括就是說我們警察機關還有監理機關還有這個地方的停管機關大概就是說在路上行走的或是停車的大概就是說那個資料庫裡面都有這一個可能因為你的車牌已經被吊註銷不能所以你不可能在路上還會再行駛嘛所以他一查出來的話就有可能\n有所謂的疑似偽造號牌的這個回名單也在裡面那我強請教警政署那我們所謂的AI巡防系統我看到在我們這一次總預算裡面你們有編列這樣的預算那一億多 對不對副署長知道嗎AI巡防系統\n我們本來就現在就有在建置警察的補助系統現在就有在建置那交通部給我們的資料我們會輸入進去輸入進去以後我們警方在巡邏的時候透過那個系統如果發現是偽變造車牌就會攔查起地那現在各地各地的這個警察局統統都有這個巡防系統是全國一致還是給地方政府\n市警局﹖可能就在我們警方的設備裡面在警方全國的設備裡面那只是每年編的預算是要來更新升級我們的AI巡防系統嗎?\n因為目前那個我剛剛在那個報告裡面的那個系統裡面是現在是有六都裡面有幾個幾部的車裝置在裡面那這個對嘛這個系統部署長你講出真相了那再來明年不是全國都有也不是你剛剛回答我的是在你的警政署的巡防系統裡面耶沒有錯目前是沒有\n三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、\n副所長你要先問清楚再來回答我啦因為我看到有這一筆預算嘛那所以你們要建立這個AI巡防系統不是\n以現有的系統嘛而是你們另外在建制我要跟他說它比較數位化、科技化現代版的一個AI巡防系統以六都才在試辦而且呢全國以六都來講有這個AI巡防系統的警車根本不到10%嘛那你這一筆預算執行下去之後你認為幾年內要建制到\n百分之百還是你原來的KPI就沒有達到百分之百因為那個有一個中長期計劃啦詳細的計劃我不是很清楚分三年來來來你事後給我這個書面報告我要知道你要建制的期程你即將要花多少預算我什麼時候可以國人可以預期說我可以建立這個全台灣的一個AI巡防的一個聯防系統\n為什麼這個重要這個要搭配剛剛我問交通部不僅僅是公路局的一個監理系統還有地方政府的庭管系統還有你警政署自己的AI聯防系統這樣子加起來才能夠讓這一個假車牌也好偽造車牌也好我們才能夠真正的去判讀真假也才能夠真正做到百分之百的防堵嘛\n這個是我們的用意,我希望預算編下去,極快下去,要真的做,要強化數據資料庫,要加速查緝量能,那也才能達到什麼?我們現在不是只有修法,修法當然一定要修,我自己也有提版本,要修刑法、修道教條例,包括我們願意等願版。\n但是呢要抓得到才能夠罰得到也才能遏止啊執行面也很重要啊是不是部長你同意吧是非常同意委員的說法所以我拜託是不是在接下來用最快的時間最快的速度跟警政署內政部警政署跟我們地方政府還有呢跟相關包括數位發展部很重要我們從源頭到\n後端的查緝到剛剛說的利用數位化、科技化的一個聯防系統這個每一個事情都很重要都要做到修法當然我們支持好不好是,好,謝謝委員畫布會的聯防我們會來努力謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.888 --> 00:17.045\n謝謝盧昭偉主席我們是不是請部長好陳部長還有公路局跟警政署警政署今天是來陳局長李副署長副署長好部長好局長好來副署長好\n\n00:18.246 --> 00:22.827\n謝謝部長我想今天很多委員跟本席一樣都在關心這個假車牌的問題那假車牌媒體報導也很多那我們也相信我們警政署也跟各地的警察同仁們也很用心用力的在打擊在抓但是防不勝防剛剛有委員在講即使到現在網路上都還看得到在販賣假車牌\n\n00:43.112 --> 00:52.037\n那我現在就要請教我們要打擊假車牌當然修法是我們一定要做的但是上游要防堵下游要查緝那源頭的打這個假車牌查假車牌是第一步對不對這個我想你部長也同意那要怎麼查假車牌以公務局給我們的一個統計數字今天很多委員都提到\n\n01:06.385 --> 01:20.301\n那現在呢在針對網路銷售的這一個部分要怎麼阻絕第一個我提我看到公路局給我們一個資料10月17號建立一個所謂的網路平台的巡查程式是嗎?局長是網路的巡查平台對10月17號開始\n\n01:25.707 --> 01:54.477\n這一個網路的平台的查詢程式的查貨並通知業者下架512件還沒請到上議院那這一個512件裡面那為什麼到現在連有委員跟其他委員跟我都在網路上還看得到是網路平台不配合呢下架不夠快嗎包括數位發展部都說有跟其他這些社群網路平台呢有建立一個通報下架的窗口那包括Yahoo\n\n01:55.197 --> 02:04.508\n等等的這個網購的平台也都說願意配合但是速發部那邊給我們的資料是下架41件一個下架512件一個下架41件部長這個數字你滿意嗎?\n\n02:10.632 --> 02:25.851\n五百一十二件是我們通知啦通知而已還沒有下架嘛對不對那速發部那邊是實際有下架的是41件但你看喔光是這兩個數字就告訴我們什麼這下架的效率有夠慢\n\n02:26.912 --> 02:54.733\n你已經巡查到了你通知業者要下架512件你通知了那速發部呢負責去溝通建立的通報下架窗口可是已到目前為止我看到的是41件512件裡面只有41件下架那難怪我們委員先在國人在這個平台上面看到可以買這個或甚至能客製化偽造的車牌比比皆是啊\n\n02:56.223 --> 03:13.168\n部長你認為這該怎麼辦我覺得這個數字上確實有落差但是網購的部分都已經下架了那現在比較麻煩的是他個人的臉書或者是他的LINE的群組的部分這個部分是還沒有處理好那這個部分應該要我們會跟速發部這邊也來協調看一下怎麼樣加強所以你要怎麼辦\n\n03:17.433 --> 03:41.679\n我認為警政署可能也有拜託一起啦警政署也有一個通報下架的窗口嘛那至於呢這個速發部跟警政署跟我們交通部拜託你們跨部會去這不是只有喝咖啡聊天的事情而已這是非常要審慎的去面對而且要積極的查處跟解決問題啊不然的話你看這數字落差這麼大\n\n03:42.819 --> 04:01.693\n好部長這是第一個第二個我要跟你講一件事我們要查假車牌之前要先比對比對它是正還是假那就是什麼建立資料庫以你們現在有建立的資料庫有兩件事一個是公務局說建立一個疑似偽造號牌的揮名單揮名單那目前在這個揮名單裡面偽變造、吊銷、註銷會繳回等等是不是171筆\n\n04:13.489 --> 04:38.103\n應該不只啦。灰名單是171筆。各位報告。來,我現在就是要跟你探討這件事嘛。你所謂的疑似偽造號牌灰名單,現在的171筆,這個到底包含什麼東西嗎?因為你說要交由警察機關或停管機關要合作,要把這個灰名單提供給警政單位,就是警政署來建立所謂的AI巡防系統。\n\n04:38.923 --> 04:54.564\n各位網友我們現在所有的就是車牌被吊扣、吊銷、註銷因為代表就是說他車子不能再用了所以他比較有機會說他可能會去使用假車牌所以這個吊註銷的這個大概幾十萬筆的資料全部都有給警察機關\n\n04:56.325 --> 05:19.292\n另外171筆是民眾就是說因為他已經來就是說他來報案申訴說我的車牌已經被偽造了所以這個還有另外已經被偽造的171筆那為什麼叫回名單是因為你還沒有辦法證實他到底是不是偽造車牌還是所以像檢察機關其實他們就是說我們把所有的這個資料都已經在他們的AI的資料庫系統所以像檢察機關現在辨別非常快\n\n05:20.051 --> 05:27.223\n那我可以請教嗎那在公路局像體系下所謂的AI巡防系統圖的這個會名單裡面可能會巡查到的除了ETEC還有哪些系統可以\n\n05:32.973 --> 05:44.040\n現在其實包括就是說我們警察機關還有監理機關還有這個地方的停管機關大概就是說在路上行走的或是停車的大概就是說那個資料庫裡面都有這一個可能因為你的車牌已經被吊註銷不能所以你不可能在路上還會再行駛嘛所以他一查出來的話就有可能\n\n05:58.968 --> 06:17.614\n有所謂的疑似偽造號牌的這個回名單也在裡面那我強請教警政署那我們所謂的AI巡防系統我看到在我們這一次總預算裡面你們有編列這樣的預算那一億多對不對副署長知道嗎AI巡防系統\n\n06:18.632 --> 06:46.084\n我們本來就現在就有在建置警察的補助系統現在就有在建置那交通部給我們的資料我們會輸入進去輸入進去以後我們警方在巡邏的時候透過那個系統如果發現是偽變造車牌就會攔查起地那現在各地各地的這個警察局統統都有這個巡防系統是全國一致還是給地方政府\n\n06:47.154 --> 06:57.902\n市警局﹖可能就在我們警方的設備裡面在警方全國的設備裡面那只是每年編的預算是要來更新升級我們的AI巡防系統嗎?\n\n07:00.407 --> 07:26.079\n因為目前那個我剛剛在那個報告裡面的那個系統裡面是現在是有六都裡面有幾個幾部的車裝置在裡面那這個對嘛這個系統部署長你講出真相了那再來明年不是全國都有也不是你剛剛回答我的是在你的警政署的巡防系統裡面耶沒有錯目前是沒有\n\n07:26.459 --> 07:31.901\n三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、\n\n07:46.630 --> 07:51.533\n副所長你要先問清楚再來回答我啦因為我看到有這一筆預算嘛那所以你們要建立這個AI巡防系統不是\n\n08:04.560 --> 08:21.626\n以現有的系統嘛而是你們另外在建制我要跟他說它比較數位化、科技化現代版的一個AI巡防系統以六都才在試辦而且呢全國以六都來講有這個AI巡防系統的警車根本不到10%嘛那你這一筆預算執行下去之後你認為幾年內要建制到\n\n08:30.762 --> 08:59.138\n百分之百還是你原來的KPI就沒有達到百分之百因為那個有一個中長期計劃啦詳細的計劃我不是很清楚分三年來來來你事後給我這個書面報告我要知道你要建制的期程你即將要花多少預算我什麼時候可以國人可以預期說我可以建立這個全台灣的一個AI巡防的一個聯防系統\n\n09:00.118 --> 09:25.107\n為什麼這個重要這個要搭配剛剛我問交通部不僅僅是公路局的一個監理系統還有地方政府的庭管系統還有你警政署自己的AI聯防系統這樣子加起來才能夠讓這一個假車牌也好偽造車牌也好我們才能夠真正的去判讀真假也才能夠真正做到百分之百的防堵嘛\n\n09:26.227 --> 09:29.730\n這個是我們的用意,我希望預算編下去,極快下去,要真的做,要強化數據資料庫,要加速查緝量能,那也才能達到什麼?我們現在不是只有修法,修法當然一定要修,我自己也有提版本,要修刑法、修道教條例,包括我們願意等願版。\n\n09:49.429 --> 10:13.634\n但是呢要抓得到才能夠罰得到也才能遏止啊執行面也很重要啊是不是部長你同意吧是非常同意委員的說法所以我拜託是不是在接下來用最快的時間最快的速度跟警政署內政部警政署跟我們地方政府還有呢跟相關包括數位發展部很重要我們從源頭到\n\n10:16.434 --> 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