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黃健豪等17人、 黃健豪等17人\n什麼時候,你預計什麼時候會送出來呢?我們希望能夠在一個月之內能夠送到立法院。一個月內送到立法院,因為部長,這個的確一定要加油。是,當然。一定要提起勁好好去做,這個危害大家太傷腦筋了。那所以呢,我們現在看到你除了提高這個罰則,對不對?是。你們的修法內容方向,提高罰則。是。然後呢?\n接下來對於變造的這些來源你要怎麼樣溯耕你要怎麼去斷源呢對不對溯耕的部分其實我們跟執法單位也就是說警政署的部分其實我們有努力一起在做但是成效就是越來越糟糕有在找源頭所以我告訴你你現在正在修你包括你要怎麼樣去追耕你要去斷源接下來還有一個也就是你讓使用者買不到\n會議記載這個部分嗎?對。\n那有些民眾因為被吊銷或只是吊扣\n他就在那個社群平台就買了一個買了一個假車牌了他也不知道違法這樣有沒有違法\n你去買那個車牌來搗咧,這樣有沒有違法違法違法嘛違法你們要大力去宣導它不只違法,它還涉及到刑法它還偽造耶,特種文書啊對不對是,沒有錯,這個有刑法的這個有刑法的啊對你們都點頭啊可是還是很多人不知道啊我就被吊銷啦所以我就去網路很方便啊他就寄一個車牌來給我,我就給他吊上去啊\n委員這個我們加強宣導加強宣導要讓民眾知道說這個是違法的行為以後不要再做這個一定要加強宣導因為\n本席也就是說你不要說因為台灣的民眾有很多很善良的是他的確需要車子他就想盡一些辦法他取到他最簡單的方式可以取得那這個就糟糕所以本席要求必須要加強去宣導加強去宣導那接下來我要請問說像這樣的一個情況之下很多民眾敢買變造車牌的幫兇\n那我們要怎麼樣去改善我們要怎麼樣改善因為你使用了偽造車牌的情況呢那你違反了這個很多的治安嘛很多的治安所以在這樣的情況之下我們看到今年到現在喔越來越多這樣的現象\n你看他好像不重要但是他就是困擾著每一個人的家庭這個真的是很困擾所以呢你跟警方這邊的橫向聯繫你們有沒有聯繫的管道跟平台來掌控這些最新的資料其實報告委員我們跨部會的協調跟跨部會合作目前在查緝跟這個從源頭管制的部分我們目前都一直在進行當中都一直在進行當中好 這個就是部長我要\n讓你講我故意要讓你講你現在都有在查緝當中可是結果論是不好的所以我請你去精進方案好不好你們的聯絡平台你們的聯絡管道要怎麼去精進這是我今天本席今天所要質詢的重點好不好你去研議書面資料給本席多久給本席\n應該兩個禮拜之內可以提供委員會。好不好本期也就是希望說我們看到社會面向都是你們辛苦現在在做但是做來成績不理想的時候拜託你們要怎麼去調整好不好兩個禮拜來無照駕駛這麼嚴肅的議題你看到東湖高中生的事件偷開了阿公的車上路了新竹17歲的孩子\n晚上就把你開出來了部長你看到這些無照駕駛造成這樣子的嚴肅的議題你有沒有什麼方法你即使提高罰則也就是罰則罰錢\n他還是一樣偷偷就開出來怎麼辦有沒有什麼方案可以去因應一方面提高罰則包括未來的這個車輛我們會一致管理讓他們有警惕心之外針對年長就是65歲以上沒有駕照的這個部分我們會盡量輔導他們去考駕照那對於年幼也就是還未成年的這個部分我們也會加強輔導跟教育單位做輔導而且要練管\n要列管就是說這些人員第一我們要列管學校要關懷第二就是說針對家長的責任的部分我們也會把它加進來就是家長如果發生這樣的事情家長要一起來上課部長你講到這個重點我們一起來討論你政府是不是應當從家庭的觀念養成這個監製的這個監製的機制那也就是因為無照駕駛他本來就是未成年\n所以家長本來他就是有責任那所以呢無照駕駛他不只是一個交通安全的問題他是一個社會安全的問題對不對也因為基於這樣的原因你要怎麼樣去做是不是這個家長的部分他的一個\n連坐對象這是必須納入裡面的要不然你一個小孩他就會成年啊那這怎麼辦呢你要怎麼樣去推廣啊對不對你只好家長你要有責任去管控這個孩子啊\n對,在這次的求法裡面我們把家長的責任也都納進來對象納入嘛,同不同意對,沒有錯應該要納入,好好的去宣導,好好的去管控好不好,不然這樣子我們對一個未成年你也沒他什麼責啊那這怎麼辦呢,所以不能造成這樣社會的一個不安嘛那連帶這個你贊同把家長納入在你們的這個類別內嘛對不對\n兼戶人也要有責任。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.789 --> 00:04.732\n謝主席、本席、蔣邀請部長\n\n00:19.062 --> 00:31.157\n部長好,我想今天我要跟您討論今天主席所安排的議題也就是偽造車牌的這個事件那我們看到現在偽造車牌達到1012件\n\n00:34.361 --> 00:50.798\n那如果以刑法來移送的部分是859件那有大概有這個896人那嚴重的影響整個車牌的管理那特別對於整個道路交通安全以及社會治安是有很大的一個傷害\n\n00:52.459 --> 01:20.455\n甚至懸掛偽造的車牌他不斷的不斷的去違規駕駛造成車牌被盜用的車主他非常的無辜他一直收到這個這個罰單那收到這個罰單雖然有的他沒有報案那就真的是史無對證了那有的有去報案他要花很多的時間去申訴而且他還要回到你的監理站去申請變更的車牌這非常的老民事件不斷的在報\n\n01:21.175 --> 01:23.016\n委員黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人、黃健豪等17人\n\n01:51.495 --> 02:17.590\n什麼時候,你預計什麼時候會送出來呢?我們希望能夠在一個月之內能夠送到立法院。一個月內送到立法院,因為部長,這個的確一定要加油。是,當然。一定要提起勁好好去做,這個危害大家太傷腦筋了。那所以呢,我們現在看到你除了提高這個罰則,對不對?是。你們的修法內容方向,提高罰則。是。然後呢?\n\n02:18.710 --> 02:46.986\n接下來對於變造的這些來源你要怎麼樣溯耕你要怎麼去斷源呢對不對溯耕的部分其實我們跟執法單位也就是說警政署的部分其實我們有努力一起在做但是成效就是越來越糟糕有在找源頭所以我告訴你你現在正在修你包括你要怎麼樣去追耕你要去斷源接下來還有一個也就是你讓使用者買不到\n\n02:48.653 --> 02:48.693\n會議記載這個部分嗎?對。\n\n03:16.767 --> 03:19.028\n那有些民眾因為被吊銷或只是吊扣\n\n03:39.418 --> 03:46.692\n他就在那個社群平台就買了一個買了一個假車牌了他也不知道違法這樣有沒有違法\n\n03:48.035 --> 04:11.429\n你去買那個車牌來搗咧,這樣有沒有違法違法違法嘛違法你們要大力去宣導它不只違法,它還涉及到刑法它還偽造耶,特種文書啊對不對是,沒有錯,這個有刑法的這個有刑法的啊對你們都點頭啊可是還是很多人不知道啊我就被吊銷啦所以我就去網路很方便啊他就寄一個車牌來給我,我就給他吊上去啊\n\n04:12.108 --> 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