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00:00:00,889\n林倩琦委員質詢。\n\n2\n00:00:19,165 --> 00:00:40,498\n委員好,謝謝張代主席。您好,本席今天還是針對大家比較關注的一個民生問題來跟您就教。也就是去年8月24號排放陸海的這個大家對於日本福島核災裡面含川廢水,您剛才在一些諮詢裡面有提到。\n\n3\n00:00:41,959 --> 00:00:51,607\n大家因為對食安這邊有一些疑慮所以核安會都會在海洋資訊平台裡面公佈相關的資訊你們也應該主動定期來發布漁產輻射檢測的結果讓大家來知道你們在114年度單位預算裡面國家海域放射性物質擴散預警及安全評估應對計劃\n\n4\n00:01:05,260 --> 00:01:25,519\n這是跨部會的,荷蘭海委跟農業部都有一些合作所以去年你們也談到這個國際原能總署對於這個也邀請了中國、韓國、俄羅斯還有美國等11個國家做了調查小組然後覺得他是符合這個排放是符合國際安全標準的\n\n5\n00:01:26,940 --> 00:01:52,680\n但是臨近的國家還是對這個部分有一些疑慮所以目前你們的資訊平台的公佈雖然有這個跨部會輻射監測整合儀表板將台灣周邊的這個海域輻射的安全燈號漁獲物採樣監測及其中公佈的這個漁獲物採樣關於穿含量的資料但是裡面有一點本席這邊就教一下你們沒有名列\n\n6\n00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:56,563\n遠洋漁獲或臺灣海域周邊漁獲結果建於寒川廢水排放後隨洋流擴散首當其衝是福島東方海域秋刀魚捕撈作業\n\n7\n00:02:14,081 --> 00:02:40,337\n應該對遠航漁獲的穿航量檢測這邊是不是也有這個定期介入並單獨列舉周遭的這個漁獲的一個區分那你們今年也多編就是下一個年度多編了400多萬那這個部分是不是可以請你們再多做一些改善那不知道你們至於觀測點這邊是不是有增加還是這400多萬的這個預算你們打算怎麼去做一個處理謝謝\n\n8\n00:02:42,304 --> 00:02:42,604\n委員會主席\n\n9\n00:02:57,521 --> 00:03:22,327\n那我這邊先講一下因為之前那個會內也都有跟本席這邊來做一些報告所以我想直接切入你是不是可以跟我回應一下那在這個監測站是在這個經費裡面也會再多設還是就對遠洋漁獲還有洋流它的整個的一個方向的這個流域你們這個部分有在做遠洋的這個部分多設一些監測點嗎\n\n10\n00:03:39,853 --> 00:03:40,834\n及核能安全委員會及所屬單位預\n\n11\n00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:24,974\n本席在這邊做一個提醒本席比較關心漁洋漁獲的這個區塊所以請你們注意一下再跟這個漁業署就以你們的專業然後洋流應該是你們的專業吧所以洋流的這個流向應該是你們可以了解的要不然你們可能要跟國研院或海委會對於整個洋流的一個走向\n\n12\n00:04:25,475 --> 00:04:43,641\n多做一些了解然後再考慮是不是增設一些點這是本席這邊的一個建議永陽的部分你們應該多注意一下我們會納入我們的平台討論會議好的謝謝那也記得給本席一個報告就是說你們討論了之後那對於本席這個建議你們是什麼一個做法\n\n13\n00:04:44,720 --> 00:05:04,395\n接下來當然會裡面一直有跟本席談到藍瑜儲存廠放射性廢棄物的管理當然會裡面有一些比較專業的講法不過本席在這邊還是要就所看到的一些細節做一些提醒目前有許多廢料桶的桶身研究鏽蝕也扭曲變形\n\n14\n00:05:07,897 --> 00:05:26,343\n台電公司在儲藏場執行的三級品管制也不太周延好像跟規範的意思有點不符所以在96年到100年間有許多廢棄桶封存10年經抽查在上層的部分有鏽蝕、吊漆、桶蓋膨脹\n\n15\n00:05:28,164 --> 00:05:52,837\n累積油脂等現象這個部分呢可能是不是可以請你們在跨部會也再去做一些以你們專業做一些提醒雖然你們一直跟本席說可能有些地方的輻射會比這個藍雨來的高但是畢竟這個是我們所看到的物質性上的一個變化那所以你們是不是可以透過這個跨部會的平台就這個部分也去做一個提醒跟處理呢\n\n16\n00:05:54,146 --> 00:06:19,959\n報告委員剛才看到的應該都是屬於之前還沒有重新檢診的舊桶的部分那目前事實上核安會已經要求台電公司進行改善所以這部分都重新檢診裝桶所以沒有現在這樣子的問題那我們也在持續做相關的這個檢查跟視察好的謝謝那你是不是把相關報告給本席知道一下你們的期程然後跟目前的整體的一個狀況\n\n17\n00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:43,016\n最後就是核廢料管制的一個業務追蹤。在今年的6月,我們低放射性的廢棄桶有大概23萬桶。台電對於長子的選址,我想很多人也提過這個問題。所以本席想請問主委在113年到116年的放射性廢棄物安全管制與\n\n18\n00:06:45,117 --> 00:07:11,870\n審驗技術發展的計劃明確要辦理低放射性廢棄物的處理與儲存安全管制技術的研發您有這三項細部計劃本席想要了解目前的進度另外是不是可以協助台電低放射性廢棄物的候選場址的選址及集中式儲存應變方案之執行我想這很多人都關心過不知道主委代理主委您這邊\n\n19\n00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:41,066\n對於這個事情的回應。針對協助台電地方身份信用選址之場址及其中處事應變方案其實相關的一些準則我們都有已經建置提供給台電公司做他選址的一些的參據那之後他們也要提出評估報告那至於這個前面的這三項的研究技術的話其實是應該是說我們持續在滾動精進針對我們安全技術去收集這個國外相關的一個技術來\n\n20\n00:07:41,866 --> 00:07:49,651\n解釋我們目前進促的這個經濟的這個方向喔那這部份的細節是不是我們在補充給委員想要了解的是說按那一個比較具體的處理跟可能的地點\n\n21\n00:07:58,056 --> 00:08:10,244\n最後一個就是我們能源的配品這邊跟您請教一下因為太陽光電雖然容量逐年上升可是離我們的目標值也有點距離那風場也是海事工程還有船舶調度的作業都趕不上變化\n\n22\n00:08:13,446 --> 00:08:39,356\n我們在2025年到2050年綠能要總發電量兩成預六成的一個政策目標目前好像都還是有很大的差距所以在去年聯合國的COP28會議開完了之後本席還是要問您一下核能重啟的運轉可能性然後如果哪一天變化了你們可以協助台電這個區塊嗎?\n\n23\n00:08:41,577 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--> 00:00.889\n林倩琦委員質詢。\n\n00:19.165 --> 00:40.498\n委員好,謝謝張代主席。您好,本席今天還是針對大家比較關注的一個民生問題來跟您就教。也就是去年8月24號排放陸海的這個大家對於日本福島核災裡面含川廢水,您剛才在一些諮詢裡面有提到。\n\n00:41.959 --> 00:51.607\n大家因為對食安這邊有一些疑慮所以核安會都會在海洋資訊平台裡面公佈相關的資訊你們也應該主動定期來發布漁產輻射檢測的結果讓大家來知道你們在114年度單位預算裡面國家海域放射性物質擴散預警及安全評估應對計劃\n\n01:05.260 --> 01:25.519\n這是跨部會的,荷蘭海委跟農業部都有一些合作所以去年你們也談到這個國際原能總署對於這個也邀請了中國、韓國、俄羅斯還有美國等11個國家做了調查小組然後覺得他是符合這個排放是符合國際安全標準的\n\n01:26.940 --> 01:52.680\n但是臨近的國家還是對這個部分有一些疑慮所以目前你們的資訊平台的公佈雖然有這個跨部會輻射監測整合儀表板將台灣周邊的這個海域輻射的安全燈號漁獲物採樣監測及其中公佈的這個漁獲物採樣關於穿含量的資料但是裡面有一點本席這邊就教一下你們沒有名列\n\n01:53.300 --> 01:56.563\n遠洋漁獲或臺灣海域周邊漁獲結果建於寒川廢水排放後隨洋流擴散首當其衝是福島東方海域秋刀魚捕撈作業\n\n02:14.081 --> 02:40.337\n應該對遠航漁獲的穿航量檢測這邊是不是也有這個定期介入並單獨列舉周遭的這個漁獲的一個區分那你們今年也多編就是下一個年度多編了400多萬那這個部分是不是可以請你們再多做一些改善那不知道你們至於觀測點這邊是不是有增加還是這400多萬的這個預算你們打算怎麼去做一個處理謝謝\n\n02:42.304 --> 02:42.604\n委員會主席\n\n02:57.521 --> 03:22.327\n那我這邊先講一下因為之前那個會內也都有跟本席這邊來做一些報告所以我想直接切入你是不是可以跟我回應一下那在這個監測站是在這個經費裡面也會再多設還是就對遠洋漁獲還有洋流它的整個的一個方向的這個流域你們這個部分有在做遠洋的這個部分多設一些監測點嗎\n\n03:39.853 --> 03:40.834\n及核能安全委員會及所屬單位預\n\n04:05.712 --> 04:24.974\n本席在這邊做一個提醒本席比較關心漁洋漁獲的這個區塊所以請你們注意一下再跟這個漁業署就以你們的專業然後洋流應該是你們的專業吧所以洋流的這個流向應該是你們可以了解的要不然你們可能要跟國研院或海委會對於整個洋流的一個走向\n\n04:25.475 --> 04:43.641\n多做一些了解然後再考慮是不是增設一些點這是本席這邊的一個建議永陽的部分你們應該多注意一下我們會納入我們的平台討論會議好的謝謝那也記得給本席一個報告就是說你們討論了之後那對於本席這個建議你們是什麼一個做法\n\n04:44.720 --> 05:04.395\n接下來當然會裡面一直有跟本席談到藍瑜儲存廠放射性廢棄物的管理當然會裡面有一些比較專業的講法不過本席在這邊還是要就所看到的一些細節做一些提醒目前有許多廢料桶的桶身研究鏽蝕也扭曲變形\n\n05:07.897 --> 05:26.343\n台電公司在儲藏場執行的三級品管制也不太周延好像跟規範的意思有點不符所以在96年到100年間有許多廢棄桶封存10年經抽查在上層的部分有鏽蝕、吊漆、桶蓋膨脹\n\n05:28.164 --> 05:52.837\n累積油脂等現象這個部分呢可能是不是可以請你們在跨部會也再去做一些以你們專業做一些提醒雖然你們一直跟本席說可能有些地方的輻射會比這個藍雨來的高但是畢竟這個是我們所看到的物質性上的一個變化那所以你們是不是可以透過這個跨部會的平台就這個部分也去做一個提醒跟處理呢\n\n05:54.146 --> 06:19.959\n報告委員剛才看到的應該都是屬於之前還沒有重新檢診的舊桶的部分那目前事實上核安會已經要求台電公司進行改善所以這部分都重新檢診裝桶所以沒有現在這樣子的問題那我們也在持續做相關的這個檢查跟視察好的謝謝那你是不是把相關報告給本席知道一下你們的期程然後跟目前的整體的一個狀況\n\n06:21.660 --> 06:43.016\n最後就是核廢料管制的一個業務追蹤。在今年的6月,我們低放射性的廢棄桶有大概23萬桶。台電對於長子的選址,我想很多人也提過這個問題。所以本席想請問主委在113年到116年的放射性廢棄物安全管制與\n\n06:45.117 --> 07:11.870\n審驗技術發展的計劃明確要辦理低放射性廢棄物的處理與儲存安全管制技術的研發您有這三項細部計劃本席想要了解目前的進度另外是不是可以協助台電低放射性廢棄物的候選場址的選址及集中式儲存應變方案之執行我想這很多人都關心過不知道主委代理主委您這邊\n\n07:13.330 --> 07:41.066\n對於這個事情的回應。針對協助台電地方身份信用選址之場址及其中處事應變方案其實相關的一些準則我們都有已經建置提供給台電公司做他選址的一些的參據那之後他們也要提出評估報告那至於這個前面的這三項的研究技術的話其實是應該是說我們持續在滾動精進針對我們安全技術去收集這個國外相關的一個技術來\n\n07:41.866 --> 07:49.651\n解釋我們目前進促的這個經濟的這個方向喔那這部份的細節是不是我們在補充給委員想要了解的是說按那一個比較具體的處理跟可能的地點\n\n07:58.056 --> 08:10.244\n最後一個就是我們能源的配品這邊跟您請教一下因為太陽光電雖然容量逐年上升可是離我們的目標值也有點距離那風場也是海事工程還有船舶調度的作業都趕不上變化\n\n08:13.446 --> 08:39.356\n我們在2025年到2050年綠能要總發電量兩成預六成的一個政策目標目前好像都還是有很大的差距所以在去年聯合國的COP28會議開完了之後本席還是要問您一下核能重啟的運轉可能性然後如果哪一天變化了你們可以協助台電這個區塊嗎?\n\n08:41.577 --> 08:42.899\n政策變化,重啟可能性,協助命轉可行性\n\n08:50.581 --> 09:14.907\n報告委員那針對這部分能源政策真的不是在核安會的權責範圍之內不過我相信這一陣子不論是院長或部長都針對這個部分都有做過一些回應基本的主要的原則就是在核安全保核廢能夠處理還有社會有共識的前提之下來進行這個相關的討論那這部分的話那核安會的話作為安全管制機關我們會依照這個\n\n09:16.027 --> 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