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00:01:06,030\n他們就講了老半天所以我如果時間超過請主席也見諒好不好來請陳部長民航局何局長我們桃集公司楊董董事長好那個航軍局的邱局長邱局長\n\n4\n00:01:18,384 --> 00:01:45,442\n好部長我今天針對人力的問題來探討人力的問題來探討也就是現在我們一、二航廈現在的人力到底夠不夠所以部長你針對這個各單位的人力配置以及現在我們一、二航廈\n\n5\n00:01:47,608 --> 00:02:14,540\n的現在的狀況到底人力夠與不夠這看你瞭解與否在航勤的部分我們會增加一些人力目前看起來的話一二航廈楊董事長跟范總他們在經營的過程當中也有提過這個人力是比較吃緊一些目前他們也很希望可以再增加人力尤其最近整個航運的量一直在增加\n\n6\n00:02:15,380 --> 00:02:35,503\n那過去幾年疫情的過程當中確實有流失掉一些人才那現在航運量上升之後人沒有地補上來其實我覺得對於整體的服務品質也會稍微降低那我以為您所提供的這個資料看起來可能不只是淘氣公司可能連這個航空警察局的部分也應該有些缺額\n\n7\n00:02:36,204 --> 00:03:01,795\n所以我特別請邱大局長上來只是要提醒你為什麼會有公安的問題為什麼會有不明旅客可以到我們的機場裡面被摔死這個叫什麼這個當然警察局也有關係這個跟管理也有關係所以這個再再顯示一種第一\n\n8\n00:03:02,535 --> 00:03:30,008\n就是所有人員怠慢二、人力不足所造成所以我們固且不談責任但是我們要把一個問題我市長會跟部長提出比較率先的問題是因為一、二航廈已知行之有年那這個人員不足當然要盡快補我現在問題看的是第三航廈我們在三年耶\n\n9\n00:03:31,209 --> 00:03:43,418\n我們人員不足要修法耶我們到底要怎麼樣去規劃那這個部分我重點就是在商行下成立以後你們如何陸陸續續成立如何把人員補足\n\n10\n00:03:47,200 --> 00:04:06,462\n這是非常重要我們第三航廈做好了以後是世界規模裡面算還是國際有名的一個航廈欸所以你們有沒有未以籌謀事先規劃以及如何去應對這些東西啊要特別去注意來回來那個\n\n11\n00:04:07,583 --> 00:04:28,874\n再回來那一章我還沒講第三航廈的部分人力的增補的部分應該在進行當中因為115年他就整體要正式來營運所以人力的部分其實目前都在規劃當中那是要漸進式的去補足的哪一個部分完成要補哪一個這個是要有規劃的楊董事長不是說我有在規劃你怎麼規劃呢要不要請楊董事長跟委員報告簡單齁\n\n12\n00:04:35,891 --> 00:04:52,241\n非常感謝委員的關心那目前我們只有不死第三航廈的這個規劃已經超前在規劃那今年度已經開始陸續在徵聘初步規劃提供給我們本委員會的委員知道好不好這人力的問題是非常重要的是\n\n13\n00:04:53,021 --> 00:05:18,849\n好不好那你需要部長支援你這個要牽涉到修法你不要以為你規劃出來只上當兵這個是牽涉到人員用的行政院要不要去支持行政院有沒有認同這是非常重要所以為什麼我現在就要提2027才會完工那我現在為什麼要提加上修法加上你們的規劃送一送行政院到立法院來\n\n14\n00:05:20,009 --> 00:05:46,204\n那剛好是三年欸不要臨時爆火腳所以我特別要提醒這些或許部長每一次我跟你提的都是創新的東西不是指責因為你是年輕的部長你要有未以從某的這種部長的做法到最後才有辦法去面對這整個三行下的人力的問題好另外一點來何局長我請問一下\n\n15\n00:05:49,520 --> 00:06:17,626\n本席在給你們調交通部民航局你們到底有沒有欠人在淘機的部分因為我們只有不要淘機我問你你的單位有沒有欠人目前來講我們的預算原額是有可是我們是進補好局長我不曉得立法委員給你調資料到底局長有沒有去控管為什麼我給你們調資料你們不給還有觀光署\n\n16\n00:06:21,141 --> 00:06:35,353\n我跟你講我們交通首屬的委員調你們的資料這麼簡單的資料也不是機密請問一下為什麼不給這個應該要提供給委員的那為什麼不給跟委員再報告一下因為我們沒有進駐在桃機的人\n\n17\n00:06:36,576 --> 00:06:56,244\n我問你們的是交通部因為你們沒有進駐有在監督嘛你們人員不足還是會影響監督嘛人員跟員額這個都應該是公開資訊那也應該是公給委員沒有提供資訊對的我現在跟你講喔不提供的不提供的我已經講得很清楚是\n\n18\n00:06:56,784 --> 00:07:15,418\n原因如果沒有告訴我立法委員很簡單調的不是機密資料不是爭議的資料怎麼怎麼怎麼會不給呢?報告委員如果我們的題目是說進駐桃機制公務機關的缺額或許民航局沒有在那邊進駐不過也應該要說明清楚不能新聞給你們你們不給\n\n19\n00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:38,094\n要回啦一定要回我回去查清楚這個部分不要查清楚為什麼我調你們不給應該要給我是本委員會的委員跟交通有關更何況今天的議題是一樣的是需要這些人力來配置來幫你們講話為什麼不給應該要給這部分我們來檢討我跟你講\n\n20\n00:07:43,444 --> 00:08:08,870\n我對我無所謂我不希望你對我們所有委員是這種態度因為不是機密的東西講快一點你們本來就是要公布的當你們講話還被你們在那邊調戲這什麼東西啊這個我們會來檢討好不好柏中尤其你交通部首屬其他的部會我當然有其他部會的做法是是是好另外一個何局長\n\n21\n00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:26,280\n我要問你兩個問題第一個我們無人機的檢查部分未來會越來越多無人機也是從這次大家非常重視的不管是戰略品或者無人機的遊戲機\n\n22\n00:08:28,682 --> 00:08:51,125\n現在都要檢驗行政院也要求你們要檢驗我就不曉得現在越來越多你們的編列預算跟收入預算為什麼本來是1140萬為什麼降下來870為什麼檢驗越多怎麼會收入也少然後開支也少為什麼\n\n23\n00:08:52,519 --> 00:09:09,448\n跟委員報告有關相關的無人機檢驗來講目前譬如說像經濟部的部分是他們在檢驗那民航局的部分是兩公斤以上的部分兩公斤以上的飛航我問的為什麼啦講的那個部分應該是雅創新的不是何局長\n\n24\n00:09:10,569 --> 00:09:34,907\n我坦白講你們資料不提供我就看得非常細連你們怎麼編我都很清楚你不要以為立法委員都來混的立法委員啊尤其啊我們這次很多是民意代表出身的我跟你講預算你們怎麼藏我們都很清楚但是我們都內行人我不希望你們騙立法委員應該是越誤越多\n\n25\n00:09:36,307 --> 00:10:04,385\n預算是要增加沒錯我們只能砍預算但是不是這樣要馬跑要馬吃草啊不能業務怎麼推行我們在乎的是業務不是在乎的是給不給錢的問題所以這點我希望部長還是要去監督一下最後一個我特別要提醒何局長你們國外旅遊的部分也就是國外考察\n\n26\n00:10:05,705 --> 00:10:09,731\n為什麼增加這麼多為什麼本來23萬現在變成148萬原因何在\n\n27\n00:10:17,247 --> 00:10:35,998\n你不曉得齁好沒有關係我只是提供我也不要圍欄你啦好不好我不要圍欄你這個就牽涉到我剛才跟主席報告的希望你們每一位首長要來立法院報告要聊落職長如何編列預算\n\n28\n00:10:37,947 --> 00:10:56,247\n不要照本先科這樣我們第一個其實我們也很會練啦不然你可以當部長我們也可以當立委你有兩把刷子我們也有兩把刷子所以不要照本先科我跟你講這些你們回去查一下我希望私底下給我\n\n29\n00:10:57,348 --> 00:11:23,702\n給我答案不然的話我坦白跟你講在審預算的時候你不要以為立法委員只管大事考察費用的部分我請何局長特別向您報告是啦我不是怕給錢是認為有必要才花有必要當然我們支持啊所以我剛才點出這些我希望何局長回去趕快就這些問題但是我很在乎的\n\n30\n00:11:24,883 --> 00:11:38,824\n你們資料不給我我就把你資料看得更清楚我也希望部長不要因為這些小事影響你預算的大事這是我特別提醒跟特別懇求好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1838\t16619\t主席我現在提前提問題我還要拜託我們主席一開始就要要求所有立會的官員在做報告的時候我們不是來聽人賭\n18789\t47097\t重點提示增加預算減劣預算你的特點還需要歷驗支持把重點報告有史以來委員會做報告沒有人這麼久的已經用掉我們50分鐘所以拜託我們主席雖然提醒不要那麼客氣該停就要停奇怪我們6分鐘一到你就趕快站起來\n47637\t66030\t他們就講了老半天所以我如果時間超過請主席也見諒好不好來請陳部長民航局何局長我們桃集公司楊董董事長好那個航軍局的邱局長邱局長\n78384\t105442\t好 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另外一點來 何局長我請問一下\n349520\t377626\t本席在給你們調交通部民航局你們到底有沒有欠人在淘機的部分因為我們只有不要淘機我問你你的單位有沒有欠人目前來講我們的預算原額是有可是我們是進補好局長我不曉得立法委員給你調資料到底局長有沒有去控管為什麼我給你們調資料你們不給還有觀光署\n381141\t395353\t我跟你講我們交通首屬的委員調你們的資料這麼簡單的資料也不是機密請問一下為什麼不給這個應該要提供給委員的那為什麼不給跟委員再報告一下因為我們沒有進駐在桃機的人\n396576\t416244\t我問你們的是交通部因為你們沒有進駐有在監督嘛你們人員不足還是會影響監督嘛人員跟員額這個都應該是公開資訊那也應該是公給委員沒有提供資訊對的我現在跟你講喔不提供的不提供的我已經講得很清楚是\n416784\t435418\t原因如果沒有告訴我立法委員很簡單調的不是機密資料不是爭議的資料怎麼怎麼怎麼會不給呢?報告委員如果我們的題目是說進駐桃機制公務機關的缺額或許民航局沒有在那邊進駐不過也應該要說明清楚不能新聞給你們你們不給\n438320\t458094\t要回啦 一定要回我回去查清楚這個部分不要查清楚為什麼我調你們不給應該要給我是本委員會的委員跟交通有關更何況今天的議題是一樣的是需要這些人力來配置來幫你們講話為什麼不給應該要給 這部分我們來檢討我跟你講\n463444\t488870\t我對我無所謂我不希望你對我們所有委員是這種態度因為不是機密的東西講快一點你們本來就是要公布的當你們講話還被你們在那邊調戲這什麼東西啊這個我們會來檢討好不好柏中尤其你交通部首屬其他的部會我當然有其他部會的做法是是是好另外一個何局長\n490185\t506280\t我要問你兩個問題第一個我們無人機的檢查部分未來會越來越多無人機也是從這次大家非常重視的不管是戰略品或者無人機的遊戲機\n508682\t531125\t現在都要檢驗行政院也要求你們要檢驗我就不曉得現在越來越多你們的編列預算跟收入預算為什麼本來是1140萬為什麼降下來870為什麼檢驗越多怎麼會收入也少然後開支也少為什麼\n532519\t549448\t跟委員報告有關相關的無人機檢驗來講目前譬如說像經濟部的部分是他們在檢驗那民航局的部分是兩公斤以上的部分兩公斤以上的飛航我問的為什麼啦講的那個部分應該是雅創新的不是 何局長\n550569\t574907\t我坦白講你們資料不提供我就看得非常細連你們怎麼編我都很清楚你不要以為立法委員都來混的立法委員啊尤其啊我們這次很多是民意代表出身的我跟你講預算你們怎麼藏我們都很清楚但是我們都內行人我不希望你們騙立法委員應該是越誤越多\n576307\t604385\t預算是要增加沒錯我們只能砍預算但是不是這樣要馬跑要馬吃草啊不能業務怎麼推行我們在乎的是業務不是在乎的是給不給錢的問題所以這點我希望部長還是要去監督一下最後一個我特別要提醒何局長你們國外旅遊的部分也就是國外考察\n605705\t609731\t為什麼增加這麼多為什麼本來23萬現在變成148萬原因何在\n617247\t635998\t你不曉得齁好沒有關係我只是提供我也不要圍欄你啦好不好我不要圍欄你這個就牽涉到我剛才跟主席報告的希望你們每一位首長要來立法院報告要聊落職長如何編列預算\n637947\t656247\t不要照本先科這樣我們第一個其實我們也很會練啦不然你可以當部長我們也可以當立委你有兩把刷子我們也有兩把刷子所以不要照本先科我跟你講這些你們回去查一下我希望私底下給我\n657348\t683702\t給我答案不然的話我坦白跟你講在審預算的時候你不要以為立法委員只管大事考察費用的部分我請何局長特別向您報告是啦我不是怕給錢是認為有必要才花有必要當然我們支持啊所以我剛才點出這些我希望何局長回去趕快就這些問題但是我很在乎的\n684883\t698824\t你們資料不給我我就把你資料看得更清楚我也希望部長不要因為這些小事影響你預算的大事這是我特別提醒跟特別懇求好不好好 謝謝\n","txt":"主席我現在提前提問題我還要拜託我們主席一開始就要要求所有立會的官員在做報告的時候我們不是來聽人賭\n重點提示增加預算減劣預算你的特點還需要歷驗支持把重點報告有史以來委員會做報告沒有人這麼久的已經用掉我們50分鐘所以拜託我們主席雖然提醒不要那麼客氣該停就要停奇怪我們6分鐘一到你就趕快站起來\n他們就講了老半天所以我如果時間超過請主席也見諒好不好來請陳部長民航局何局長我們桃集公司楊董董事長好那個航軍局的邱局長邱局長\n好 部長我今天針對人力的問題來探討人力的問題來探討也就是現在我們一、二航廈現在的人力到底夠不夠所以部長你針對這個各單位的人力配置以及現在我們一、二航廈\n的現在的狀況到底人力夠與不夠這看你瞭解與否在航勤的部分我們會增加一些人力目前看起來的話一二航廈楊董事長跟范總他們在經營的過程當中也有提過這個人力是比較吃緊一些目前他們也很希望可以再增加人力尤其最近整個航運的量一直在增加\n那過去幾年疫情的過程當中確實有流失掉一些人才那現在航運量上升之後人沒有地補上來其實我覺得對於整體的服務品質也會稍微降低那我以為您所提供的這個資料看起來可能不只是淘氣公司可能連這個航空警察局的部分也應該有些缺額\n所以我特別請邱大局長上來只是要提醒你為什麼會有公安的問題為什麼會有不明旅客可以到我們的機場裡面被摔死這個叫什麼這個當然警察局也有關係這個跟管理也有關係所以這個再再顯示一種第一\n就是所有人員怠慢二、人力不足所造成所以我們固且不談責任但是我們要把一個問題我市長會跟部長提出比較率先的問題是因為一、二航廈已知行之有年那這個人員不足當然要盡快補我現在問題看的是第三航廈我們在三年耶\n我們人員不足要修法耶我們到底要怎麼樣去規劃那這個部分我重點就是在商行下成立以後你們如何陸陸續續成立如何把人員補足\n這是非常重要我們第三航廈做好了以後是世界規模裡面算還是國際有名的一個航廈欸所以你們有沒有未以籌謀事先規劃以及如何去應對這些東西啊要特別去注意來回來那個\n再回來那一章我還沒講第三航廈的部分人力的增補的部分應該在進行當中因為115年他就整體要正式來營運所以人力的部分其實目前都在規劃當中那是要漸進式的去補足的哪一個部分完成要補哪一個這個是要有規劃的楊董事長不是說我有在規劃你怎麼規劃呢要不要請楊董事長跟委員報告簡單齁\n非常感謝委員的關心那目前我們只有不死第三航廈的這個規劃已經超前在規劃那今年度已經開始陸續在徵聘初步規劃提供給我們本委員會的委員知道好不好這人力的問題是非常重要的是\n好不好那你需要部長支援你這個要牽涉到修法你不要以為你規劃出來只上當兵這個是牽涉到人員用的行政院要不要去支持行政院有沒有認同這是非常重要所以為什麼我現在就要提2027才會完工那我現在為什麼要提加上修法加上你們的規劃送一送行政院到立法院來\n那剛好是三年欸不要臨時爆火腳所以我特別要提醒這些或許部長每一次我跟你提的都是創新的東西不是指責因為你是年輕的部長你要有未以從某的這種部長的做法到最後才有辦法去面對這整個三行下的人力的問題好 另外一點來 何局長我請問一下\n本席在給你們調交通部民航局你們到底有沒有欠人在淘機的部分因為我們只有不要淘機我問你你的單位有沒有欠人目前來講我們的預算原額是有可是我們是進補好局長我不曉得立法委員給你調資料到底局長有沒有去控管為什麼我給你們調資料你們不給還有觀光署\n我跟你講我們交通首屬的委員調你們的資料這麼簡單的資料也不是機密請問一下為什麼不給這個應該要提供給委員的那為什麼不給跟委員再報告一下因為我們沒有進駐在桃機的人\n我問你們的是交通部因為你們沒有進駐有在監督嘛你們人員不足還是會影響監督嘛人員跟員額這個都應該是公開資訊那也應該是公給委員沒有提供資訊對的我現在跟你講喔不提供的不提供的我已經講得很清楚是\n原因如果沒有告訴我立法委員很簡單調的不是機密資料不是爭議的資料怎麼怎麼怎麼會不給呢?報告委員如果我們的題目是說進駐桃機制公務機關的缺額或許民航局沒有在那邊進駐不過也應該要說明清楚不能新聞給你們你們不給\n要回啦 一定要回我回去查清楚這個部分不要查清楚為什麼我調你們不給應該要給我是本委員會的委員跟交通有關更何況今天的議題是一樣的是需要這些人力來配置來幫你們講話為什麼不給應該要給 這部分我們來檢討我跟你講\n我對我無所謂我不希望你對我們所有委員是這種態度因為不是機密的東西講快一點你們本來就是要公布的當你們講話還被你們在那邊調戲這什麼東西啊這個我們會來檢討好不好柏中尤其你交通部首屬其他的部會我當然有其他部會的做法是是是好另外一個何局長\n我要問你兩個問題第一個我們無人機的檢查部分未來會越來越多無人機也是從這次大家非常重視的不管是戰略品或者無人機的遊戲機\n現在都要檢驗行政院也要求你們要檢驗我就不曉得現在越來越多你們的編列預算跟收入預算為什麼本來是1140萬為什麼降下來870為什麼檢驗越多怎麼會收入也少然後開支也少為什麼\n跟委員報告有關相關的無人機檢驗來講目前譬如說像經濟部的部分是他們在檢驗那民航局的部分是兩公斤以上的部分兩公斤以上的飛航我問的為什麼啦講的那個部分應該是雅創新的不是 何局長\n我坦白講你們資料不提供我就看得非常細連你們怎麼編我都很清楚你不要以為立法委員都來混的立法委員啊尤其啊我們這次很多是民意代表出身的我跟你講預算你們怎麼藏我們都很清楚但是我們都內行人我不希望你們騙立法委員應該是越誤越多\n預算是要增加沒錯我們只能砍預算但是不是這樣要馬跑要馬吃草啊不能業務怎麼推行我們在乎的是業務不是在乎的是給不給錢的問題所以這點我希望部長還是要去監督一下最後一個我特別要提醒何局長你們國外旅遊的部分也就是國外考察\n為什麼增加這麼多為什麼本來23萬現在變成148萬原因何在\n你不曉得齁好沒有關係我只是提供我也不要圍欄你啦好不好我不要圍欄你這個就牽涉到我剛才跟主席報告的希望你們每一位首長要來立法院報告要聊落職長如何編列預算\n不要照本先科這樣我們第一個其實我們也很會練啦不然你可以當部長我們也可以當立委你有兩把刷子我們也有兩把刷子所以不要照本先科我跟你講這些你們回去查一下我希望私底下給我\n給我答案不然的話我坦白跟你講在審預算的時候你不要以為立法委員只管大事考察費用的部分我請何局長特別向您報告是啦我不是怕給錢是認為有必要才花有必要當然我們支持啊所以我剛才點出這些我希望何局長回去趕快就這些問題但是我很在乎的\n你們資料不給我我就把你資料看得更清楚我也希望部長不要因為這些小事影響你預算的大事這是我特別提醒跟特別懇求好不好好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.838 --> 00:16.619\n主席我現在提前提問題我還要拜託我們主席一開始就要要求所有立會的官員在做報告的時候我們不是來聽人賭\n\n00:18.789 --> 00:47.097\n重點提示增加預算減劣預算你的特點還需要歷驗支持把重點報告有史以來委員會做報告沒有人這麼久的已經用掉我們50分鐘所以拜託我們主席雖然提醒不要那麼客氣該停就要停奇怪我們6分鐘一到你就趕快站起來\n\n00:47.637 --> 01:06.030\n他們就講了老半天所以我如果時間超過請主席也見諒好不好來請陳部長民航局何局長我們桃集公司楊董董事長好那個航軍局的邱局長邱局長\n\n01:18.384 --> 01:45.442\n好部長我今天針對人力的問題來探討人力的問題來探討也就是現在我們一、二航廈現在的人力到底夠不夠所以部長你針對這個各單位的人力配置以及現在我們一、二航廈\n\n01:47.608 --> 02:14.540\n的現在的狀況到底人力夠與不夠這看你瞭解與否在航勤的部分我們會增加一些人力目前看起來的話一二航廈楊董事長跟范總他們在經營的過程當中也有提過這個人力是比較吃緊一些目前他們也很希望可以再增加人力尤其最近整個航運的量一直在增加\n\n02:15.380 --> 02:35.503\n那過去幾年疫情的過程當中確實有流失掉一些人才那現在航運量上升之後人沒有地補上來其實我覺得對於整體的服務品質也會稍微降低那我以為您所提供的這個資料看起來可能不只是淘氣公司可能連這個航空警察局的部分也應該有些缺額\n\n02:36.204 --> 03:01.795\n所以我特別請邱大局長上來只是要提醒你為什麼會有公安的問題為什麼會有不明旅客可以到我們的機場裡面被摔死這個叫什麼這個當然警察局也有關係這個跟管理也有關係所以這個再再顯示一種第一\n\n03:02.535 --> 03:30.008\n就是所有人員怠慢二、人力不足所造成所以我們固且不談責任但是我們要把一個問題我市長會跟部長提出比較率先的問題是因為一、二航廈已知行之有年那這個人員不足當然要盡快補我現在問題看的是第三航廈我們在三年耶\n\n03:31.209 --> 03:43.418\n我們人員不足要修法耶我們到底要怎麼樣去規劃那這個部分我重點就是在商行下成立以後你們如何陸陸續續成立如何把人員補足\n\n03:47.200 --> 04:06.462\n這是非常重要我們第三航廈做好了以後是世界規模裡面算還是國際有名的一個航廈欸所以你們有沒有未以籌謀事先規劃以及如何去應對這些東西啊要特別去注意來回來那個\n\n04:07.583 --> 04:28.874\n再回來那一章我還沒講第三航廈的部分人力的增補的部分應該在進行當中因為115年他就整體要正式來營運所以人力的部分其實目前都在規劃當中那是要漸進式的去補足的哪一個部分完成要補哪一個這個是要有規劃的楊董事長不是說我有在規劃你怎麼規劃呢要不要請楊董事長跟委員報告簡單齁\n\n04:35.891 --> 04:52.241\n非常感謝委員的關心那目前我們只有不死第三航廈的這個規劃已經超前在規劃那今年度已經開始陸續在徵聘初步規劃提供給我們本委員會的委員知道好不好這人力的問題是非常重要的是\n\n04:53.021 --> 05:18.849\n好不好那你需要部長支援你這個要牽涉到修法你不要以為你規劃出來只上當兵這個是牽涉到人員用的行政院要不要去支持行政院有沒有認同這是非常重要所以為什麼我現在就要提2027才會完工那我現在為什麼要提加上修法加上你們的規劃送一送行政院到立法院來\n\n05:20.009 --> 05:46.204\n那剛好是三年欸不要臨時爆火腳所以我特別要提醒這些或許部長每一次我跟你提的都是創新的東西不是指責因為你是年輕的部長你要有未以從某的這種部長的做法到最後才有辦法去面對這整個三行下的人力的問題好另外一點來何局長我請問一下\n\n05:49.520 --> 06:17.626\n本席在給你們調交通部民航局你們到底有沒有欠人在淘機的部分因為我們只有不要淘機我問你你的單位有沒有欠人目前來講我們的預算原額是有可是我們是進補好局長我不曉得立法委員給你調資料到底局長有沒有去控管為什麼我給你們調資料你們不給還有觀光署\n\n06:21.141 --> 06:35.353\n我跟你講我們交通首屬的委員調你們的資料這麼簡單的資料也不是機密請問一下為什麼不給這個應該要提供給委員的那為什麼不給跟委員再報告一下因為我們沒有進駐在桃機的人\n\n06:36.576 --> 06:56.244\n我問你們的是交通部因為你們沒有進駐有在監督嘛你們人員不足還是會影響監督嘛人員跟員額這個都應該是公開資訊那也應該是公給委員沒有提供資訊對的我現在跟你講喔不提供的不提供的我已經講得很清楚是\n\n06:56.784 --> 07:15.418\n原因如果沒有告訴我立法委員很簡單調的不是機密資料不是爭議的資料怎麼怎麼怎麼會不給呢?報告委員如果我們的題目是說進駐桃機制公務機關的缺額或許民航局沒有在那邊進駐不過也應該要說明清楚不能新聞給你們你們不給\n\n07:18.320 --> 07:38.094\n要回啦一定要回我回去查清楚這個部分不要查清楚為什麼我調你們不給應該要給我是本委員會的委員跟交通有關更何況今天的議題是一樣的是需要這些人力來配置來幫你們講話為什麼不給應該要給這部分我們來檢討我跟你講\n\n07:43.444 --> 08:08.870\n我對我無所謂我不希望你對我們所有委員是這種態度因為不是機密的東西講快一點你們本來就是要公布的當你們講話還被你們在那邊調戲這什麼東西啊這個我們會來檢討好不好柏中尤其你交通部首屬其他的部會我當然有其他部會的做法是是是好另外一個何局長\n\n08:10.185 --> 08:26.280\n我要問你兩個問題第一個我們無人機的檢查部分未來會越來越多無人機也是從這次大家非常重視的不管是戰略品或者無人機的遊戲機\n\n08:28.682 --> 08:51.125\n現在都要檢驗行政院也要求你們要檢驗我就不曉得現在越來越多你們的編列預算跟收入預算為什麼本來是1140萬為什麼降下來870為什麼檢驗越多怎麼會收入也少然後開支也少為什麼\n\n08:52.519 --> 09:09.448\n跟委員報告有關相關的無人機檢驗來講目前譬如說像經濟部的部分是他們在檢驗那民航局的部分是兩公斤以上的部分兩公斤以上的飛航我問的為什麼啦講的那個部分應該是雅創新的不是何局長\n\n09:10.569 --> 09:34.907\n我坦白講你們資料不提供我就看得非常細連你們怎麼編我都很清楚你不要以為立法委員都來混的立法委員啊尤其啊我們這次很多是民意代表出身的我跟你講預算你們怎麼藏我們都很清楚但是我們都內行人我不希望你們騙立法委員應該是越誤越多\n\n09:36.307 --> 10:04.385\n預算是要增加沒錯我們只能砍預算但是不是這樣要馬跑要馬吃草啊不能業務怎麼推行我們在乎的是業務不是在乎的是給不給錢的問題所以這點我希望部長還是要去監督一下最後一個我特別要提醒何局長你們國外旅遊的部分也就是國外考察\n\n10:05.705 --> 10:09.731\n為什麼增加這麼多為什麼本來23萬現在變成148萬原因何在\n\n10:17.247 --> 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