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00:00:35,520\n部長、局長、董事長早安那我想這個12強棒球賽實在是讓這個台灣的社會這個真的是這個很激憤那尤其最近這個昨天大家到今天一直在討論就是所謂的一個班級的一個\n\n3\n00:00:36,581 --> 00:00:37,462\n目前回程的機票大概平均一個人大概多少錢?\n\n4\n00:01:05,007 --> 00:01:31,269\n這樣子啊那個去程如果去的人買來回的話買來回票的話沒有多少錢的問題因為台灣這邊已經買完了除非是去程做的是單程那回程沒有票的我們會在網路上讓他訂那訂的話你訂到什麼倉庫就付什麼價錢因為很多年輕人齁這個哇哇叫啦說這個票太貴了也沒有啦我們有考量到這個問題\n\n5\n00:01:32,830 --> 00:01:53,472\n不會趁火打劫這個請委員放心這個雖然有市場機制但是華航身為國家隊其實都蠻體恤大家不過這一點還是要請部長跟局長這邊還有我們董事長這邊幫忙因為這次真的是一個這個協調的過程當然時間很短那未來面對這樣的一個情形我們是不是有一個更\n\n6\n00:01:54,113 --> 00:02:00,395\n其實我們這一次民航局跟華航都相當的幫忙尤其民航局也跟不只是華航跟其他的航空公司也都在協調\n\n7\n00:02:13,081 --> 00:02:30,097\n這個過程其實啟動的速度算是蠻快不過每一個航空公司的狀況不太一樣我們也不能夠去強制要求一定要換大飛機或者是要增加航班因為這也牽涉到跟日本那邊或者是我們要去的目的地的國家的這個機場能不能地勤能不能負荷的問題\n\n8\n00:02:31,118 --> 00:02:45,626\n那不過委員在建議的SOP就是未來如果國家有這樣重要的賽事的時候可能我們民航局就先提高警覺馬上注意到那如果有好消息傳出的時候我們需要出國去比賽的時候這個部分民航局會馬上來啟動\n\n9\n00:02:46,867 --> 00:03:11,021\n對因為我們都期待我們臺灣的隊伍都有機會打進國際賽那也應該要做一個超前部署的一個準備是是好謝謝那另外我想我們都很羨慕尤其我們左院長大概這個月8號有到小港機場去視察那也關心我們這個第一期第二期這個高雄國際機場航廈的一個進入那部長這部分應該如期沒有問題嗎\n\n10\n00:03:12,562 --> 00:03:36,337\n小港機場的這個改建計畫是沒有問題的目前都在進度當中這個不會延遲對但是這邊我還是要提醒部長一下因為我們常常提到所謂的一個南台灣的這個科技狼帶也好還是觀光的一個發展也好屏東都不能置身事外也不能被排除在外那小港機場有做一個國際化的一個機場的一個條件但是我還是要提到我們屏東有兩個機場一個屏東機場還有一個我們的武力艇機場\n\n11\n00:03:40,959 --> 00:04:01,203\n我們在交通委員會考察的時候當然也特別拜託部長跟我們的局長針對肯定機場未來的一個方向是不是有一個比較活化的策略部長我想包含屏東縣政府我們鄒縣長也好還有我們的觀光業者還有很多鄉親還是期待包機能夠重啟包機飛航的部分\n\n12\n00:04:04,864 --> 00:04:13,952\n那但是我在想民調局當然有很多的考量那局長上次我們委員會考察完之後有沒有一個更新的進度\n\n13\n00:04:16,037 --> 00:04:41,847\n我想當然各界是希望有包機不過這個部分我們民航局還是會看看怎麼來推動它不過它真的它有它的市場性那不過短期來講的話我們跟觀光署已經有討論因為觀光署明年會在這個恆春半島有一個振興計畫然後包含這個陸海空的部分所以我們會搭配觀光署跟這個恆春建成150週年來看看如何推動這個部分\n\n14\n00:04:42,332 --> 00:05:03,079\n好部長我想我們還是希望能夠去做一個短中長期的一個規劃跟火花的一個計畫包含短期我們應該專案我們的一個輕航機的一個長訓的一個基地還有作為一個無人機的一個訓練考照場那中期我們應該獎勵上路飛機能夠進駐然後也事辦我們屏東到臺北的一個包機的獎勵\n\n15\n00:05:04,099 --> 00:05:32,529\n那長期當然我們是希望針對一個機場的一個跑道的延伸還有增加一個側風跑道的規劃讓我們大型的班機能夠來做一個起降那甚至未來推動國際包機跟搭配一個衛星的一個產業發射基地在屏東那目前有沒有可能我們來做一個跳島飛行的一個規劃包含恆春到蘭嶼、恆春到金門或是恆春到馬祖的一個航線的一個考量局長這部分有沒有可能來\n\n16\n00:05:33,149 --> 00:05:55,288\n跟我們航空公司來協調一下有關委員講的要從恆春飛蘭嶼跟恆春跟金門因為這些都是比較新的航線就是委員提出來的那這個部分要包含它的航機等等的部分我們再來做整體的評估然後看看航空公司有沒有意願做這樣的一個飛航\n\n17\n00:05:56,082 --> 00:06:19,753\n對其實武力艇機場的條件很好尤其我們今年6月我們辦了氣象機的這個飛行體驗真的是秒殺所以很多人對這個空中的一個旅遊的一個所謂的一個喜好度還是很高不過因為這個我們活化的部分上次因為我有提過我們的租金算得太貴了所以變成一些民間的團體不敢來\n\n18\n00:06:21,594 --> 00:06:42,763\n部長這個我覺得我們應該可以我們來研究看怎麼降低到可以鼓勵大家吸引大家進去因為我們是希望能夠把遊客帶進來那既然有民間社團或是我們官方的單位願意辦活動我們應該要樂觀其人來協助那這部分我想住進的部分是不是可以營一個比較適妥的一個方式\n\n19\n00:06:43,163 --> 00:07:08,958\n好我們來研議針對不同的對象我們來研議看看如何做調整對讓他有吸引力要讓他有吸引力其實我們現在的收費已經很低了其實已經打蠻低了不過我們再看看啦就是說也要再合規對啦有一些有公立性質或是一些委員如果有這方面的團體有這方面的需求其實可以直接來跟民航局講那民航局來協助看什麼樣的費用比較符合他們的需求這樣\n\n20\n00:07:09,858 --> 00:07:36,593\n部長那我請教我們竹田我們屏東縣政府有規劃一個無人機的飛行場部長有去過嗎這個我沒去過很棒這個環境很棒那我今年我前陣子大概有去看了一場就是我們這個無人機的一個體驗的一個活動那包含從這個國小的小朋友一直到很多的老人家他們都很喜歡這個無人機的一個操作但是很可惜的就是因為我們現在一個定義的考照的部分\n\n21\n00:07:37,533 --> 00:07:59,609\n當地沒辦法做一個常態化那其實我們很多南部的考生必須跑到雲林這有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以請民營局來協助部分包含一個考照的一個制度還有一個場地的其實那個我們那個無人機的場地可以再做一個更大的一個規劃跟一個改善的空間這部分是不是可以請民營局來做一個協助\n\n22\n00:08:01,421 --> 00:08:21,247\n因為確實比較大型的其實它是目前來講如果要有的話其實是真的要到這個雲林那一邊因為它因為機型不同大小不同所以每個場地有那因為如果比較大型對周遭的一個相關的要有第一個要有周遭環境的淨空等等\n\n23\n00:08:21,607 --> 00:08:48,989\n所以他有一些條件那我們再來看看這個部分也要相關的所以我還是建議部長跟局長找個時間來參觀一下那個地方真的是非常好的一個場域尤其我覺得像我們無人機的考照真的是很多的這個不管是這個小朋友也好學生也好甚至到我們的很多的青年人甚至中年人都很喜歡這樣那尤其我們現在結合所一個農業的一個操作\n\n24\n00:08:49,709 --> 00:08:59,274\n跟所謂的一個未來的一個很多一個商業的一個是他們會舉辦無人機足球賽非常非常的精彩這部分再請部長來這邊來協助那最後一個我想\n\n25\n00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:19,678\n我們有一個民間民眾有在一個公共政策網路有提到一個所謂一個開放寵物進入客艙的一個提案那我們民用局這邊有回應說已經請國籍的航空公司參考國外來做一個評估那不曉得這個案子目前的進度\n\n26\n00:09:20,299 --> 00:09:38,214\n是目前何局長跟委員報告目前業者的評估國際業者的評估據理都收到了那因為相關的這個他們考整個業者在考量的時候因為其實主要部分就是包含寵物的一個相關的一個處理然後包含這個\n\n27\n00:09:39,875 --> 00:10:02,002\n呃其實主要還是有一個其他旅客的一個接受度然後再來就是航空公司端他對於這個航空器裡面空氣的循環等等相關的一個一些搭配所以目前參考其他國家來講就是說一些航空公司其實尤其跟這個我們業者有相關聯營的有部分航空公司也沒有提供所以呃如何讓這個讓航空公司願意來\n\n28\n00:10:02,862 --> 00:10:03,062\n進行專題報告．\n\n29\n00:10:24,685 --> 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但是這邊我還是要提醒部長一下因為我們常常提到所謂的一個南台灣的這個科技狼帶也好還是觀光的一個發展也好屏東都不能置身事外也不能被排除在外那小港機場有做一個國際化的一個機場的一個條件但是我還是要提到我們屏東有兩個機場一個屏東機場還有一個我們的武力艇機場\n220959\t241203\t我們在交通委員會考察的時候當然也特別拜託部長跟我們的局長針對肯定機場未來的一個方向是不是有一個比較活化的策略部長我想包含屏東縣政府我們鄒縣長也好還有我們的觀光業者還有很多鄉親還是期待包機能夠重啟包機飛航的部分\n244864\t253952\t那但是我在想民調局當然有很多的考量那局長上次我們委員會考察完之後有沒有一個更新的進度\n256037\t281847\t我想當然各界是希望有包機不過這個部分我們民航局還是會看看怎麼來推動它不過它真的它有它的市場性那不過短期來講的話我們跟觀光署已經有討論因為觀光署明年會在這個恆春半島有一個振興計畫然後包含這個陸海空的部分所以我們會搭配觀光署跟這個恆春建成150週年來看看如何推動這個部分\n282332\t303079\t好部長我想我們還是希望能夠去做一個短中長期的一個規劃跟火花的一個計畫包含短期我們應該專案我們的一個輕航機的一個長訓的一個基地還有作為一個無人機的一個訓練考照場那中期我們應該獎勵上路飛機能夠進駐然後也事辦我們屏東到臺北的一個包機的獎勵\n304099\t332529\t那長期當然我們是希望針對一個機場的一個跑道的延伸還有增加一個側風跑道的規劃讓我們大型的班機能夠來做一個起降那甚至未來推動國際包機跟搭配一個衛星的一個產業發射基地在屏東那目前有沒有可能我們來做一個跳島飛行的一個規劃包含恆春到蘭嶼、恆春到金門或是恆春到馬祖的一個航線的一個考量局長這部分有沒有可能來\n333149\t355288\t跟我們航空公司來協調一下有關委員講的要從恆春飛蘭嶼跟恆春跟金門因為這些都是比較新的航線就是委員提出來的那這個部分要包含它的航機等等的部分我們再來做整體的評估然後看看航空公司有沒有意願做這樣的一個飛航\n356082\t379753\t對其實武力艇機場的條件很好尤其我們今年6月我們辦了氣象機的這個飛行體驗真的是秒殺所以很多人對這個空中的一個旅遊的一個所謂的一個喜好度還是很高不過因為這個我們活化的部分上次因為我有提過我們的租金算得太貴了所以變成一些民間的團體不敢來\n381594\t402763\t部長這個我覺得我們應該可以我們來研究看怎麼降低到可以鼓勵大家吸引大家進去因為我們是希望能夠把遊客帶進來那既然有民間社團或是我們官方的單位願意辦活動我們應該要樂觀其人來協助那這部分我想住進的部分是不是可以營一個比較適妥的一個方式\n403163\t428958\t好 我們來研議針對不同的對象 我們來研議看看如何做調整對 讓他有吸引力 要讓他有吸引力其實我們現在的收費已經很低了 其實已經打蠻低了不過我們再看看啦 就是說也要再合規對啦 有一些有公立性質或是一些委員如果有這方面的團體 有這方面的需求其實可以直接來跟民航局講 那民航局來協助看什麼樣的費用比較符合他們的需求這樣\n429858\t456593\t部長那我請教我們竹田我們屏東縣政府有規劃一個無人機的飛行場部長有去過嗎這個我沒去過很棒這個環境很棒那我今年我前陣子大概有去看了一場就是我們這個無人機的一個體驗的一個活動那包含從這個國小的小朋友一直到很多的老人家他們都很喜歡這個無人機的一個操作但是很可惜的就是因為我們現在一個定義的考照的部分\n457533\t479609\t當地沒辦法做一個常態化那其實我們很多南部的考生必須跑到雲林這有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以請民營局來協助部分包含一個考照的一個制度還有一個場地的其實那個我們那個無人機的場地可以再做一個更大的一個規劃跟一個改善的空間這部分是不是可以請民營局來做一個協助\n481421\t501247\t因為確實比較大型的其實它是目前來講如果要有的話其實是真的要到這個雲林那一邊因為它因為機型不同大小不同所以每個場地有那因為如果比較大型對周遭的一個相關的要有第一個要有周遭環境的淨空等等\n501607\t528989\t所以他有一些條件那我們再來看看這個部分也要相關的所以我還是建議部長跟局長找個時間來參觀一下那個地方真的是非常好的一個場域尤其我覺得像我們無人機的考照真的是很多的這個不管是這個小朋友也好學生也好甚至到我們的很多的青年人甚至中年人都很喜歡這樣那尤其我們現在結合所一個農業的一個操作\n529709\t539274\t跟所謂的一個未來的一個很多一個商業的一個是他們會舉辦無人機足球賽非常非常的精彩這部分再請部長來這邊來協助那最後一個我想\n542759\t559678\t我們有一個民間民眾有在一個公共政策網路有提到一個所謂一個開放寵物進入客艙的一個提案那我們民用局這邊有回應說已經請國籍的航空公司參考國外來做一個評估那不曉得這個案子目前的進度\n560299\t578214\t是 目前何局長跟委員報告目前業者的評估 國際業者的評估 據理都收到了那因為相關的這個他們考 整個業者在考量的時候因為其實主要部分就是包含寵物的一個相關的一個處理然後包含這個\n579875\t602002\t呃其實主要還是有一個其他旅客的一個接受度然後再來就是航空公司端他對於這個航空器裡面空氣的循環等等相關的一個一些搭配所以目前參考其他國家來講就是說一些航空公司其實尤其跟這個我們業者有相關聯營的有部分航空公司也沒有提供所以呃如何讓這個讓航空公司願意來\n602862\t603062\t進行專題報告．\n624685\t651078\t帶進來的那也有其他旅客因為他的毛髮造成他的旅客的問題所以這個部分還是相關意見其實各方意見都很多然後相關意見其實還是要需要時間來說還是需要審慎評估好這部分我想還是請民用局這邊應該要做儘快做一個公告因為這個畢竟這個貓小孩的這個議題也是很多人在關心這部分還是需要一個比較明確一個方向好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席,有請我們交通部陳部長、民用航空局局長、中華航空協董事長\n部長、局長、董事長早安那我想這個12強棒球賽實在是讓這個台灣的社會這個真的是這個很激憤那尤其最近這個昨天大家到今天一直在討論就是所謂的一個班級的一個\n目前回程的機票大概平均一個人大概多少錢?\n這樣子啊那個去程如果去的人買來回的話買來回票的話沒有多少錢的問題因為台灣這邊已經買完了除非是去程做的是單程那回程沒有票的我們會在網路上讓他訂那訂的話你訂到什麼倉庫就付什麼價錢因為很多年輕人齁這個哇哇叫啦說這個票太貴了也沒有啦我們有考量到這個問題\n不會趁火打劫這個請委員放心這個雖然有市場機制但是華航身為國家隊其實都蠻體恤大家不過這一點還是要請部長跟局長這邊還有我們董事長這邊幫忙因為這次真的是一個這個協調的過程當然時間很短那未來面對這樣的一個情形我們是不是有一個更\n其實我們這一次民航局跟華航都相當的幫忙尤其民航局也跟不只是華航跟其他的航空公司也都在協調\n這個過程其實啟動的速度算是蠻快不過每一個航空公司的狀況不太一樣我們也不能夠去強制要求一定要換大飛機或者是要增加航班因為這也牽涉到跟日本那邊或者是我們要去的目的地的國家的這個機場能不能地勤能不能負荷的問題\n那不過委員在建議的SOP就是未來如果國家有這樣重要的賽事的時候可能我們民航局就先提高警覺馬上注意到那如果有好消息傳出的時候我們需要出國去比賽的時候這個部分民航局會馬上來啟動\n對因為我們都期待我們臺灣的隊伍都有機會打進國際賽那也應該要做一個超前部署的一個準備是是好謝謝那另外我想我們都很羨慕尤其我們左院長大概這個月8號有到小港機場去視察那也關心我們這個第一期第二期這個高雄國際機場航廈的一個進入那部長這部分應該如期沒有問題嗎\n小港機場的這個改建計畫是沒有問題的目前都在進度當中這個不會延遲對 但是這邊我還是要提醒部長一下因為我們常常提到所謂的一個南台灣的這個科技狼帶也好還是觀光的一個發展也好屏東都不能置身事外也不能被排除在外那小港機場有做一個國際化的一個機場的一個條件但是我還是要提到我們屏東有兩個機場一個屏東機場還有一個我們的武力艇機場\n我們在交通委員會考察的時候當然也特別拜託部長跟我們的局長針對肯定機場未來的一個方向是不是有一個比較活化的策略部長我想包含屏東縣政府我們鄒縣長也好還有我們的觀光業者還有很多鄉親還是期待包機能夠重啟包機飛航的部分\n那但是我在想民調局當然有很多的考量那局長上次我們委員會考察完之後有沒有一個更新的進度\n我想當然各界是希望有包機不過這個部分我們民航局還是會看看怎麼來推動它不過它真的它有它的市場性那不過短期來講的話我們跟觀光署已經有討論因為觀光署明年會在這個恆春半島有一個振興計畫然後包含這個陸海空的部分所以我們會搭配觀光署跟這個恆春建成150週年來看看如何推動這個部分\n好部長我想我們還是希望能夠去做一個短中長期的一個規劃跟火花的一個計畫包含短期我們應該專案我們的一個輕航機的一個長訓的一個基地還有作為一個無人機的一個訓練考照場那中期我們應該獎勵上路飛機能夠進駐然後也事辦我們屏東到臺北的一個包機的獎勵\n那長期當然我們是希望針對一個機場的一個跑道的延伸還有增加一個側風跑道的規劃讓我們大型的班機能夠來做一個起降那甚至未來推動國際包機跟搭配一個衛星的一個產業發射基地在屏東那目前有沒有可能我們來做一個跳島飛行的一個規劃包含恆春到蘭嶼、恆春到金門或是恆春到馬祖的一個航線的一個考量局長這部分有沒有可能來\n跟我們航空公司來協調一下有關委員講的要從恆春飛蘭嶼跟恆春跟金門因為這些都是比較新的航線就是委員提出來的那這個部分要包含它的航機等等的部分我們再來做整體的評估然後看看航空公司有沒有意願做這樣的一個飛航\n對其實武力艇機場的條件很好尤其我們今年6月我們辦了氣象機的這個飛行體驗真的是秒殺所以很多人對這個空中的一個旅遊的一個所謂的一個喜好度還是很高不過因為這個我們活化的部分上次因為我有提過我們的租金算得太貴了所以變成一些民間的團體不敢來\n部長這個我覺得我們應該可以我們來研究看怎麼降低到可以鼓勵大家吸引大家進去因為我們是希望能夠把遊客帶進來那既然有民間社團或是我們官方的單位願意辦活動我們應該要樂觀其人來協助那這部分我想住進的部分是不是可以營一個比較適妥的一個方式\n好 我們來研議針對不同的對象 我們來研議看看如何做調整對 讓他有吸引力 要讓他有吸引力其實我們現在的收費已經很低了 其實已經打蠻低了不過我們再看看啦 就是說也要再合規對啦 有一些有公立性質或是一些委員如果有這方面的團體 有這方面的需求其實可以直接來跟民航局講 那民航局來協助看什麼樣的費用比較符合他們的需求這樣\n部長那我請教我們竹田我們屏東縣政府有規劃一個無人機的飛行場部長有去過嗎這個我沒去過很棒這個環境很棒那我今年我前陣子大概有去看了一場就是我們這個無人機的一個體驗的一個活動那包含從這個國小的小朋友一直到很多的老人家他們都很喜歡這個無人機的一個操作但是很可惜的就是因為我們現在一個定義的考照的部分\n當地沒辦法做一個常態化那其實我們很多南部的考生必須跑到雲林這有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以請民營局來協助部分包含一個考照的一個制度還有一個場地的其實那個我們那個無人機的場地可以再做一個更大的一個規劃跟一個改善的空間這部分是不是可以請民營局來做一個協助\n因為確實比較大型的其實它是目前來講如果要有的話其實是真的要到這個雲林那一邊因為它因為機型不同大小不同所以每個場地有那因為如果比較大型對周遭的一個相關的要有第一個要有周遭環境的淨空等等\n所以他有一些條件那我們再來看看這個部分也要相關的所以我還是建議部長跟局長找個時間來參觀一下那個地方真的是非常好的一個場域尤其我覺得像我們無人機的考照真的是很多的這個不管是這個小朋友也好學生也好甚至到我們的很多的青年人甚至中年人都很喜歡這樣那尤其我們現在結合所一個農業的一個操作\n跟所謂的一個未來的一個很多一個商業的一個是他們會舉辦無人機足球賽非常非常的精彩這部分再請部長來這邊來協助那最後一個我想\n我們有一個民間民眾有在一個公共政策網路有提到一個所謂一個開放寵物進入客艙的一個提案那我們民用局這邊有回應說已經請國籍的航空公司參考國外來做一個評估那不曉得這個案子目前的進度\n是 目前何局長跟委員報告目前業者的評估 國際業者的評估 據理都收到了那因為相關的這個他們考 整個業者在考量的時候因為其實主要部分就是包含寵物的一個相關的一個處理然後包含這個\n呃其實主要還是有一個其他旅客的一個接受度然後再來就是航空公司端他對於這個航空器裡面空氣的循環等等相關的一個一些搭配所以目前參考其他國家來講就是說一些航空公司其實尤其跟這個我們業者有相關聯營的有部分航空公司也沒有提供所以呃如何讓這個讓航空公司願意來\n進行專題報告．\n帶進來的那也有其他旅客因為他的毛髮造成他的旅客的問題所以這個部分還是相關意見其實各方意見都很多然後相關意見其實還是要需要時間來說還是需要審慎評估好這部分我想還是請民用局這邊應該要做儘快做一個公告因為這個畢竟這個貓小孩的這個議題也是很多人在關心這部分還是需要一個比較明確一個方向好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.123 --> 00:10.390\n謝謝主席,有請我們交通部陳部長、民用航空局局長、中華航空協董事長\n\n00:19.366 --> 00:35.520\n部長、局長、董事長早安那我想這個12強棒球賽實在是讓這個台灣的社會這個真的是這個很激憤那尤其最近這個昨天大家到今天一直在討論就是所謂的一個班級的一個\n\n00:36.581 --> 00:37.462\n目前回程的機票大概平均一個人大概多少錢?\n\n01:05.007 --> 01:31.269\n這樣子啊那個去程如果去的人買來回的話買來回票的話沒有多少錢的問題因為台灣這邊已經買完了除非是去程做的是單程那回程沒有票的我們會在網路上讓他訂那訂的話你訂到什麼倉庫就付什麼價錢因為很多年輕人齁這個哇哇叫啦說這個票太貴了也沒有啦我們有考量到這個問題\n\n01:32.830 --> 01:53.472\n不會趁火打劫這個請委員放心這個雖然有市場機制但是華航身為國家隊其實都蠻體恤大家不過這一點還是要請部長跟局長這邊還有我們董事長這邊幫忙因為這次真的是一個這個協調的過程當然時間很短那未來面對這樣的一個情形我們是不是有一個更\n\n01:54.113 --> 02:00.395\n其實我們這一次民航局跟華航都相當的幫忙尤其民航局也跟不只是華航跟其他的航空公司也都在協調\n\n02:13.081 --> 02:30.097\n這個過程其實啟動的速度算是蠻快不過每一個航空公司的狀況不太一樣我們也不能夠去強制要求一定要換大飛機或者是要增加航班因為這也牽涉到跟日本那邊或者是我們要去的目的地的國家的這個機場能不能地勤能不能負荷的問題\n\n02:31.118 --> 02:45.626\n那不過委員在建議的SOP就是未來如果國家有這樣重要的賽事的時候可能我們民航局就先提高警覺馬上注意到那如果有好消息傳出的時候我們需要出國去比賽的時候這個部分民航局會馬上來啟動\n\n02:46.867 --> 03:11.021\n對因為我們都期待我們臺灣的隊伍都有機會打進國際賽那也應該要做一個超前部署的一個準備是是好謝謝那另外我想我們都很羨慕尤其我們左院長大概這個月8號有到小港機場去視察那也關心我們這個第一期第二期這個高雄國際機場航廈的一個進入那部長這部分應該如期沒有問題嗎\n\n03:12.562 --> 03:36.337\n小港機場的這個改建計畫是沒有問題的目前都在進度當中這個不會延遲對但是這邊我還是要提醒部長一下因為我們常常提到所謂的一個南台灣的這個科技狼帶也好還是觀光的一個發展也好屏東都不能置身事外也不能被排除在外那小港機場有做一個國際化的一個機場的一個條件但是我還是要提到我們屏東有兩個機場一個屏東機場還有一個我們的武力艇機場\n\n03:40.959 --> 04:01.203\n我們在交通委員會考察的時候當然也特別拜託部長跟我們的局長針對肯定機場未來的一個方向是不是有一個比較活化的策略部長我想包含屏東縣政府我們鄒縣長也好還有我們的觀光業者還有很多鄉親還是期待包機能夠重啟包機飛航的部分\n\n04:04.864 --> 04:13.952\n那但是我在想民調局當然有很多的考量那局長上次我們委員會考察完之後有沒有一個更新的進度\n\n04:16.037 --> 04:41.847\n我想當然各界是希望有包機不過這個部分我們民航局還是會看看怎麼來推動它不過它真的它有它的市場性那不過短期來講的話我們跟觀光署已經有討論因為觀光署明年會在這個恆春半島有一個振興計畫然後包含這個陸海空的部分所以我們會搭配觀光署跟這個恆春建成150週年來看看如何推動這個部分\n\n04:42.332 --> 05:03.079\n好部長我想我們還是希望能夠去做一個短中長期的一個規劃跟火花的一個計畫包含短期我們應該專案我們的一個輕航機的一個長訓的一個基地還有作為一個無人機的一個訓練考照場那中期我們應該獎勵上路飛機能夠進駐然後也事辦我們屏東到臺北的一個包機的獎勵\n\n05:04.099 --> 05:32.529\n那長期當然我們是希望針對一個機場的一個跑道的延伸還有增加一個側風跑道的規劃讓我們大型的班機能夠來做一個起降那甚至未來推動國際包機跟搭配一個衛星的一個產業發射基地在屏東那目前有沒有可能我們來做一個跳島飛行的一個規劃包含恆春到蘭嶼、恆春到金門或是恆春到馬祖的一個航線的一個考量局長這部分有沒有可能來\n\n05:33.149 --> 05:55.288\n跟我們航空公司來協調一下有關委員講的要從恆春飛蘭嶼跟恆春跟金門因為這些都是比較新的航線就是委員提出來的那這個部分要包含它的航機等等的部分我們再來做整體的評估然後看看航空公司有沒有意願做這樣的一個飛航\n\n05:56.082 --> 06:19.753\n對其實武力艇機場的條件很好尤其我們今年6月我們辦了氣象機的這個飛行體驗真的是秒殺所以很多人對這個空中的一個旅遊的一個所謂的一個喜好度還是很高不過因為這個我們活化的部分上次因為我有提過我們的租金算得太貴了所以變成一些民間的團體不敢來\n\n06:21.594 --> 06:42.763\n部長這個我覺得我們應該可以我們來研究看怎麼降低到可以鼓勵大家吸引大家進去因為我們是希望能夠把遊客帶進來那既然有民間社團或是我們官方的單位願意辦活動我們應該要樂觀其人來協助那這部分我想住進的部分是不是可以營一個比較適妥的一個方式\n\n06:43.163 --> 07:08.958\n好我們來研議針對不同的對象我們來研議看看如何做調整對讓他有吸引力要讓他有吸引力其實我們現在的收費已經很低了其實已經打蠻低了不過我們再看看啦就是說也要再合規對啦有一些有公立性質或是一些委員如果有這方面的團體有這方面的需求其實可以直接來跟民航局講那民航局來協助看什麼樣的費用比較符合他們的需求這樣\n\n07:09.858 --> 07:36.593\n部長那我請教我們竹田我們屏東縣政府有規劃一個無人機的飛行場部長有去過嗎這個我沒去過很棒這個環境很棒那我今年我前陣子大概有去看了一場就是我們這個無人機的一個體驗的一個活動那包含從這個國小的小朋友一直到很多的老人家他們都很喜歡這個無人機的一個操作但是很可惜的就是因為我們現在一個定義的考照的部分\n\n07:37.533 --> 07:59.609\n當地沒辦法做一個常態化那其實我們很多南部的考生必須跑到雲林這有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以請民營局來協助部分包含一個考照的一個制度還有一個場地的其實那個我們那個無人機的場地可以再做一個更大的一個規劃跟一個改善的空間這部分是不是可以請民營局來做一個協助\n\n08:01.421 --> 08:21.247\n因為確實比較大型的其實它是目前來講如果要有的話其實是真的要到這個雲林那一邊因為它因為機型不同大小不同所以每個場地有那因為如果比較大型對周遭的一個相關的要有第一個要有周遭環境的淨空等等\n\n08:21.607 --> 08:48.989\n所以他有一些條件那我們再來看看這個部分也要相關的所以我還是建議部長跟局長找個時間來參觀一下那個地方真的是非常好的一個場域尤其我覺得像我們無人機的考照真的是很多的這個不管是這個小朋友也好學生也好甚至到我們的很多的青年人甚至中年人都很喜歡這樣那尤其我們現在結合所一個農業的一個操作\n\n08:49.709 --> 08:59.274\n跟所謂的一個未來的一個很多一個商業的一個是他們會舉辦無人機足球賽非常非常的精彩這部分再請部長來這邊來協助那最後一個我想\n\n09:02.759 --> 09:19.678\n我們有一個民間民眾有在一個公共政策網路有提到一個所謂一個開放寵物進入客艙的一個提案那我們民用局這邊有回應說已經請國籍的航空公司參考國外來做一個評估那不曉得這個案子目前的進度\n\n09:20.299 --> 09:38.214\n是目前何局長跟委員報告目前業者的評估國際業者的評估據理都收到了那因為相關的這個他們考整個業者在考量的時候因為其實主要部分就是包含寵物的一個相關的一個處理然後包含這個\n\n09:39.875 --> 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