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00:01:12,054\n第一就是中台灣中張口有沒有辦法增加班次或是能夠增加更多的球迷在中台灣可以出發以及包括目前因為時間也快到了那我是不是想說就是北中台這個目前的增加的班級以及載客數是不是可以再重新說一下尤其包含中台灣\n\n4\n00:01:13,194 --> 00:01:24,679\n報告委員其實這幾天民航局在協調的過程當中是跟各航空公司都在協調希望能夠增加臺灣飛到東京的運量所以包含北、中、南都有去協調目前為止\n\n5\n00:01:28,393 --> 00:01:47,598\n目前為止只有桃園我們目前華航公司幫忙把那個航班的這個飛機把它加大所以增加了不少的座位包含回程的部分其實華航公司也非常幫忙但是目前委員比較關心的是臺中機場臺中機場它目前沒有飛成田的\n\n6\n00:01:48,218 --> 00:01:53,963\n那接著的話簡短的請部長回應一下就是新聞報導這承包第三航廈能源中心案東元電經總經理涉案列被告那地檢署18日發動第二波的偵查作為\n\n7\n00:02:18,841 --> 00:02:46,333\n就想是不是讓部長跟機場公司這邊簡短回應立場跟以及對於第三航廈的進度還民眾擔心會不會有影響報告委員目前我有在新聞上面看到這個案子我想一切就是依法來辦理如果有違法的事證有違法的事情我們完全就是配合司法單位的辦理我相信桃機公司也都配合司法單位的調查這個部分沒有問題\n\n8\n00:02:47,233 --> 00:03:10,084\n有違法一定要抓那另外就是針對進度的部分我目前聽到桃機公司給我的訊息是目前我們北郎廳的進度是到明年年中我們的北郎廳可能就可以做好那我們整體的這個三行下的這個建制包含南郎廳的部分大概要到115年的年底那我們希望在116年也就是2027年可以來正式來營運\n\n9\n00:03:11,803 --> 00:03:38,893\n好那因為這個議題因為現在就在偵查階段那所以還是希望交通部本於這個我們能夠讓第三環下再讓我們的國際能見度更加的提升所以在這個進度上跟品質上那還是請交通部務必要嚴格的把關是委員我可以補充一下嗎請這個案子跟桃園機場公司有關的是這兩家廠商\n\n10\n00:03:39,793 --> 00:04:00,550\n他們的工程正義的這個問題是我們航空機場的工程但是是他們兩家因為一個是上游一個是舊處他們之間的糾紛那他們所承接的這件工程目前的工程進度是超前以現況來講我們沒有什麼影響所以這是兩件事情OK那也是讓能夠有機會回應OK是\n\n11\n00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:29,823\n好那接著延續的剛才有提到的就是寵物開放寵物進客艙那本期想要直接就教的是之前有提到的時候已經有做一個溝通那包括國內的國際相關航空公司也有在做討論那想要直接請尖短回答一下那何時可以開放以及目前在溝通的航空業者航空公司有哪家是支持哪家反對那以及有沒有相關的一個評估報告\n\n12\n00:04:30,623 --> 00:04:52,993\n那以及包括溝通的一個成果何時可以開放我是不是請何局長好不好好跟委員報告已經初步溝通然後他們的評估報告其實有陸續進來評估的說明那這部分民航局還在會診中那主要業者的意見大概就是說寵物的如何讓他就是說他的處理如何就是包含他要用什麼樣的\n\n13\n00:04:55,754 --> 00:05:10,466\n這是寵物的處理然後再來就是一個航空器本身的處理還有再包含這一個其他旅客的意見那因為意見進來之後呢其實業者評估來講他們初步來講依據他們過往載運這個導盲犬的部分的一個經驗來講他們認為目前都還是要審慎評估這個部分沒有一個具體說\n\n14\n00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:42,278\n那局長因為時間有限那我也知道民航局是很用心那我還是希望說可以給本席交通委員會的委員相關的這些相關的一個評估報告或是一個內容那因為大家都希望不管是活體或是包括毛小孩上飛機的權益但是因為各家業者目前資料顯示是態度不同\n\n15\n00:05:42,938 --> 00:06:06,213\n那我們希望這一件事情來講的話我們民眾的追蹤的認知可以不是停於在溝通階段而是說有一個具體的成果甚至這個讓民眾有知的權利那哪些航空業者他們是正向支持可以有這個做這段航空是可以帶毛小孩的那哪些是不行的其實我覺得至少要讓民眾能夠清楚知道\n\n16\n00:06:06,553 --> 00:06:22,076\n目前來講他們的態度就是暫時都不會提供都不會提供目前來講他們認為他們相關的這一些還沒有完備之前是沒辦法提供好那我想說那就是一個報告給交通委員會是謝謝好那最後再\n\n17\n00:06:23,718 --> 00:06:36,775\n這個標行李箱在機場大廳穿梭那這個電動行李箱的管制那之前部長有提到目前是各航空公司的規定那時候本席有提到希望交通部來主導這個規範\n\n18\n00:06:38,297 --> 00:06:55,683\n那我們看到這個機場公司桃機其實在經營上是用心啦評比上我們繼續來努力啦那所以就交部長那今天桃機公司在這邊那這個主導的規範那是不是在今天可以做一個定調\n\n19\n00:06:56,696 --> 00:07:01,360\n是這個部分齁機場的規範可能由桃機公司他們來討論啦齁但上機的規範這個是有國際規範的尤其是離公司的部分齁在平常的這個行李上機都沒問題但是在電動行李廂在在機場奔駛的這種狀況來講\n\n20\n00:07:14,508 --> 00:07:35,618\n跟委員報告有關在機場的部分因為我們目前來講初步先用勸導因為十幾個機場都一樣沒有一個硬性的規定那我們現在民航局會邀請這個航警局等相關單位來共同來研商是不是有要增訂或修訂相關規定的必要好那是不是在早一個月之內能夠有一個相關的結論來給交通委員會的委員我們盡速來研議一個辦法好\n\n21\n00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:58,377\n那最後的話本席還是針對今天的預算以及包括在無人機的部分是不是想請部長也直接說明一下目前交通部在未來無人機產業在您在部長任內以及希望民航局還在發展無人機的一個願景監導回答即可好\n\n22\n00:07:59,017 --> 00:08:14,453\n報告委員無人機的發展是未來的趨勢所以在交通部的部分無論是法規面或者是制度面我們該修的部分一定會把它修好讓大家未來在使用無人機不管是你要考照也好或者是使用也好有一定的規範讓大家可以依循\n\n23\n00:08:15,074 --> 00:08:33,729\n部長你以前玩過無人機嗎我自己沒玩過有那種很小台小朋友在玩有玩過對那我覺得有機會的話就是民航局應該跟部長來針對無人機的部分來做一些研究那未來來講因為在交通部相關的不管交通運輸其實現在各行各業其實都有應用無人機的實力\n\n24\n00:08:34,850 --> 00:08:57,284\n那我在想其實在民航局的這個業務相關不管是跟標檢局有些業務上的重疊那我是在想其實如果說國內要重視這無人機的產業發展那其實交通部也會扮演非常重要的角色那包括錢如何用在島口上那以及說包括相關的檢測分工跟發展我覺得可能部長未來要持續來帶動好這個我會加強了解謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13259\t14566\t謝謝趙偉那有請部長好陳部長\n22568\t49937\t好部長好那部長就是剛才延續許多委員在質詢請教這個大家現在四方十二強那在這次協調班機主要是希望能夠擴大這個加大這個型號能夠讓更多的我們的臺灣的球迷啊能夠去日本那有提到就是臺灣機場的飛日本有剛才有委員關心高雄飛日本那我想問一下\n50757\t72054\t第一就是中台灣中張口有沒有辦法增加班次或是能夠增加更多的球迷在中台灣可以出發以及包括目前因為時間也快到了那我是不是想說就是北中台這個目前的增加的班級以及載客數是不是可以再重新說一下尤其包含中台灣\n73194\t84679\t報告委員其實這幾天民航局在協調的過程當中是跟各航空公司都在協調希望能夠增加臺灣飛到東京的運量所以包含北、中、南都有去協調目前為止\n88393\t107598\t目前為止只有桃園我們目前華航公司幫忙把那個航班的這個飛機把它加大所以增加了不少的座位包含回程的部分其實華航公司也非常幫忙但是目前委員比較關心的是臺中機場臺中機場它目前沒有飛成田的\n108218\t113963\t那接著的話簡短的請部長回應一下就是新聞報導這承包第三航廈能源中心案東元電經總經理涉案列被告那地檢署18日發動第二波的偵查作為\n138841\t166333\t就想是不是讓部長跟機場公司這邊簡短回應立場跟以及對於第三航廈的進度還民眾擔心會不會有影響報告委員目前我有在新聞上面看到這個案子我想一切就是依法來辦理如果有違法的事證有違法的事情我們完全就是配合司法單位的辦理我相信桃機公司也都配合司法單位的調查這個部分沒有問題\n167233\t190084\t有違法一定要抓那另外就是針對進度的部分我目前聽到桃機公司給我的訊息是目前我們北郎廳的進度是到明年年中我們的北郎廳可能就可以做好那我們整體的這個三行下的這個建制包含南郎廳的部分大概要到115年的年底那我們希望在116年也就是2027年可以來正式來營運\n191803\t218893\t好那因為這個議題因為現在就在偵查階段那所以還是希望交通部本於這個我們能夠讓第三環下再讓我們的國際能見度更加的提升所以在這個進度上跟品質上那還是請交通部務必要嚴格的把關是委員我可以補充一下嗎請這個案子跟桃園機場公司有關的是這兩家廠商\n219793\t240550\t他們的工程正義的這個問題是我們航空機場的工程但是是他們兩家因為一個是上游一個是舊處他們之間的糾紛那他們所承接的這件工程目前的工程進度是超前以現況來講我們沒有什麼影響所以這是兩件事情OK那也是讓能夠有機會回應OK是\n240990\t269823\t好那接著延續的剛才有提到的就是寵物開放寵物進客艙那本期想要直接就教的是之前有提到的時候已經有做一個溝通那包括國內的國際相關航空公司也有在做討論那想要直接請尖短回答一下那何時可以開放以及目前在溝通的航空業者航空公司有哪家是支持哪家反對那以及有沒有相關的一個評估報告\n270623\t292993\t那以及包括溝通的一個成果何時可以開放我是不是請何局長好不好好 跟委員報告已經初步溝通然後他們的評估報告其實有陸續進來評估的說明那這部分民航局還在會診中那主要業者的意見大概就是說寵物的如何讓他就是說他的處理如何就是包含他要用什麼樣的\n295754\t310466\t這是寵物的處理然後再來就是一個航空器本身的處理還有再包含這一個其他旅客的意見那因為意見進來之後呢其實業者評估來講他們初步來講依據他們過往載運這個導盲犬的部分的一個經驗來講他們認為目前都還是要審慎評估這個部分沒有一個具體說\n318653\t342278\t那局長因為時間有限那我也知道民航局是很用心那我還是希望說可以給本席交通委員會的委員相關的這些相關的一個評估報告或是一個內容那因為大家都希望不管是活體或是包括毛小孩上飛機的權益但是因為各家業者目前資料顯示是態度不同\n342938\t366213\t那我們希望這一件事情來講的話我們民眾的追蹤的認知可以不是停於在溝通階段而是說有一個具體的成果甚至這個讓民眾有知的權利那哪些航空業者他們是正向支持可以有這個做這段航空是可以帶毛小孩的那哪些是不行的其實我覺得至少要讓民眾能夠清楚知道\n366553\t382076\t目前來講他們的態度就是暫時都不會提供都不會提供目前來講他們認為他們相關的這一些還沒有完備之前是沒辦法提供好那我想說那就是一個報告給交通委員會是謝謝好那最後再\n383718\t396775\t這個標行李箱在機場大廳穿梭那這個電動行李箱的管制那之前部長有提到目前是各航空公司的規定那時候本席有提到希望交通部來主導這個規範\n398297\t415683\t那我們看到這個機場公司桃機其實在經營上是用心啦評比上我們繼續來努力啦那所以就交部長那今天桃機公司在這邊那這個主導的規範那是不是在今天可以做一個定調\n416696\t421360\t是 這個部分齁 機場的規範可能由桃機公司他們來討論啦齁但上機的規範這個是有國際規範的尤其是離公司的部分齁在平常的這個 行李上機都沒問題但是在電動行李廂在在機場奔駛的這種狀況來講\n434508\t455618\t跟委員報告有關在機場的部分因為我們目前來講初步先用勸導因為十幾個機場都一樣沒有一個硬性的規定那我們現在民航局會邀請這個航警局等相關單位來共同來研商是不是有要增訂或修訂相關規定的必要好那是不是在早一個月之內能夠有一個相關的結論來給交通委員會的委員我們盡速來研議一個辦法好\n459159\t478377\t那最後的話本席還是針對今天的預算以及包括在無人機的部分是不是想請部長也直接說明一下目前交通部在未來無人機產業在您在部長任內以及希望民航局還在發展無人機的一個願景監導回答即可好\n479017\t494453\t報告委員無人機的發展是未來的趨勢所以在交通部的部分無論是法規面或者是制度面我們該修的部分一定會把它修好讓大家未來在使用無人機不管是你要考照也好或者是使用也好有一定的規範讓大家可以依循\n495074\t513729\t部長你以前玩過無人機嗎我自己沒玩過有那種很小台小朋友在玩有玩過對那我覺得有機會的話就是民航局應該跟部長來針對無人機的部分來做一些研究那未來來講因為在交通部相關的不管交通運輸其實現在各行各業其實都有應用無人機的實力\n514850\t537284\t那我在想其實在民航局的這個業務相關不管是跟標檢局有些業務上的重疊那我是在想其實如果說國內要重視這無人機的產業發展那其實交通部也會扮演非常重要的角色那包括錢如何用在島口上那以及說包括相關的檢測分工跟發展我覺得可能部長未來要持續來帶動好 這個我會加強了解 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝趙偉那有請部長好陳部長\n好部長好那部長就是剛才延續許多委員在質詢請教這個大家現在四方十二強那在這次協調班機主要是希望能夠擴大這個加大這個型號能夠讓更多的我們的臺灣的球迷啊能夠去日本那有提到就是臺灣機場的飛日本有剛才有委員關心高雄飛日本那我想問一下\n第一就是中台灣中張口有沒有辦法增加班次或是能夠增加更多的球迷在中台灣可以出發以及包括目前因為時間也快到了那我是不是想說就是北中台這個目前的增加的班級以及載客數是不是可以再重新說一下尤其包含中台灣\n報告委員其實這幾天民航局在協調的過程當中是跟各航空公司都在協調希望能夠增加臺灣飛到東京的運量所以包含北、中、南都有去協調目前為止\n目前為止只有桃園我們目前華航公司幫忙把那個航班的這個飛機把它加大所以增加了不少的座位包含回程的部分其實華航公司也非常幫忙但是目前委員比較關心的是臺中機場臺中機場它目前沒有飛成田的\n那接著的話簡短的請部長回應一下就是新聞報導這承包第三航廈能源中心案東元電經總經理涉案列被告那地檢署18日發動第二波的偵查作為\n就想是不是讓部長跟機場公司這邊簡短回應立場跟以及對於第三航廈的進度還民眾擔心會不會有影響報告委員目前我有在新聞上面看到這個案子我想一切就是依法來辦理如果有違法的事證有違法的事情我們完全就是配合司法單位的辦理我相信桃機公司也都配合司法單位的調查這個部分沒有問題\n有違法一定要抓那另外就是針對進度的部分我目前聽到桃機公司給我的訊息是目前我們北郎廳的進度是到明年年中我們的北郎廳可能就可以做好那我們整體的這個三行下的這個建制包含南郎廳的部分大概要到115年的年底那我們希望在116年也就是2027年可以來正式來營運\n好那因為這個議題因為現在就在偵查階段那所以還是希望交通部本於這個我們能夠讓第三環下再讓我們的國際能見度更加的提升所以在這個進度上跟品質上那還是請交通部務必要嚴格的把關是委員我可以補充一下嗎請這個案子跟桃園機場公司有關的是這兩家廠商\n他們的工程正義的這個問題是我們航空機場的工程但是是他們兩家因為一個是上游一個是舊處他們之間的糾紛那他們所承接的這件工程目前的工程進度是超前以現況來講我們沒有什麼影響所以這是兩件事情OK那也是讓能夠有機會回應OK是\n好那接著延續的剛才有提到的就是寵物開放寵物進客艙那本期想要直接就教的是之前有提到的時候已經有做一個溝通那包括國內的國際相關航空公司也有在做討論那想要直接請尖短回答一下那何時可以開放以及目前在溝通的航空業者航空公司有哪家是支持哪家反對那以及有沒有相關的一個評估報告\n那以及包括溝通的一個成果何時可以開放我是不是請何局長好不好好 跟委員報告已經初步溝通然後他們的評估報告其實有陸續進來評估的說明那這部分民航局還在會診中那主要業者的意見大概就是說寵物的如何讓他就是說他的處理如何就是包含他要用什麼樣的\n這是寵物的處理然後再來就是一個航空器本身的處理還有再包含這一個其他旅客的意見那因為意見進來之後呢其實業者評估來講他們初步來講依據他們過往載運這個導盲犬的部分的一個經驗來講他們認為目前都還是要審慎評估這個部分沒有一個具體說\n那局長因為時間有限那我也知道民航局是很用心那我還是希望說可以給本席交通委員會的委員相關的這些相關的一個評估報告或是一個內容那因為大家都希望不管是活體或是包括毛小孩上飛機的權益但是因為各家業者目前資料顯示是態度不同\n那我們希望這一件事情來講的話我們民眾的追蹤的認知可以不是停於在溝通階段而是說有一個具體的成果甚至這個讓民眾有知的權利那哪些航空業者他們是正向支持可以有這個做這段航空是可以帶毛小孩的那哪些是不行的其實我覺得至少要讓民眾能夠清楚知道\n目前來講他們的態度就是暫時都不會提供都不會提供目前來講他們認為他們相關的這一些還沒有完備之前是沒辦法提供好那我想說那就是一個報告給交通委員會是謝謝好那最後再\n這個標行李箱在機場大廳穿梭那這個電動行李箱的管制那之前部長有提到目前是各航空公司的規定那時候本席有提到希望交通部來主導這個規範\n那我們看到這個機場公司桃機其實在經營上是用心啦評比上我們繼續來努力啦那所以就交部長那今天桃機公司在這邊那這個主導的規範那是不是在今天可以做一個定調\n是 這個部分齁 機場的規範可能由桃機公司他們來討論啦齁但上機的規範這個是有國際規範的尤其是離公司的部分齁在平常的這個 行李上機都沒問題但是在電動行李廂在在機場奔駛的這種狀況來講\n跟委員報告有關在機場的部分因為我們目前來講初步先用勸導因為十幾個機場都一樣沒有一個硬性的規定那我們現在民航局會邀請這個航警局等相關單位來共同來研商是不是有要增訂或修訂相關規定的必要好那是不是在早一個月之內能夠有一個相關的結論來給交通委員會的委員我們盡速來研議一個辦法好\n那最後的話本席還是針對今天的預算以及包括在無人機的部分是不是想請部長也直接說明一下目前交通部在未來無人機產業在您在部長任內以及希望民航局還在發展無人機的一個願景監導回答即可好\n報告委員無人機的發展是未來的趨勢所以在交通部的部分無論是法規面或者是制度面我們該修的部分一定會把它修好讓大家未來在使用無人機不管是你要考照也好或者是使用也好有一定的規範讓大家可以依循\n部長你以前玩過無人機嗎我自己沒玩過有那種很小台小朋友在玩有玩過對那我覺得有機會的話就是民航局應該跟部長來針對無人機的部分來做一些研究那未來來講因為在交通部相關的不管交通運輸其實現在各行各業其實都有應用無人機的實力\n那我在想其實在民航局的這個業務相關不管是跟標檢局有些業務上的重疊那我是在想其實如果說國內要重視這無人機的產業發展那其實交通部也會扮演非常重要的角色那包括錢如何用在島口上那以及說包括相關的檢測分工跟發展我覺得可能部長未來要持續來帶動好 這個我會加強了解 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.259 --> 00:14.566\n謝謝趙偉那有請部長好陳部長\n\n00:22.568 --> 00:49.937\n好部長好那部長就是剛才延續許多委員在質詢請教這個大家現在四方十二強那在這次協調班機主要是希望能夠擴大這個加大這個型號能夠讓更多的我們的臺灣的球迷啊能夠去日本那有提到就是臺灣機場的飛日本有剛才有委員關心高雄飛日本那我想問一下\n\n00:50.757 --> 01:12.054\n第一就是中台灣中張口有沒有辦法增加班次或是能夠增加更多的球迷在中台灣可以出發以及包括目前因為時間也快到了那我是不是想說就是北中台這個目前的增加的班級以及載客數是不是可以再重新說一下尤其包含中台灣\n\n01:13.194 --> 01:24.679\n報告委員其實這幾天民航局在協調的過程當中是跟各航空公司都在協調希望能夠增加臺灣飛到東京的運量所以包含北、中、南都有去協調目前為止\n\n01:28.393 --> 01:47.598\n目前為止只有桃園我們目前華航公司幫忙把那個航班的這個飛機把它加大所以增加了不少的座位包含回程的部分其實華航公司也非常幫忙但是目前委員比較關心的是臺中機場臺中機場它目前沒有飛成田的\n\n01:48.218 --> 01:53.963\n那接著的話簡短的請部長回應一下就是新聞報導這承包第三航廈能源中心案東元電經總經理涉案列被告那地檢署18日發動第二波的偵查作為\n\n02:18.841 --> 02:46.333\n就想是不是讓部長跟機場公司這邊簡短回應立場跟以及對於第三航廈的進度還民眾擔心會不會有影響報告委員目前我有在新聞上面看到這個案子我想一切就是依法來辦理如果有違法的事證有違法的事情我們完全就是配合司法單位的辦理我相信桃機公司也都配合司法單位的調查這個部分沒有問題\n\n02:47.233 --> 03:10.084\n有違法一定要抓那另外就是針對進度的部分我目前聽到桃機公司給我的訊息是目前我們北郎廳的進度是到明年年中我們的北郎廳可能就可以做好那我們整體的這個三行下的這個建制包含南郎廳的部分大概要到115年的年底那我們希望在116年也就是2027年可以來正式來營運\n\n03:11.803 --> 03:38.893\n好那因為這個議題因為現在就在偵查階段那所以還是希望交通部本於這個我們能夠讓第三環下再讓我們的國際能見度更加的提升所以在這個進度上跟品質上那還是請交通部務必要嚴格的把關是委員我可以補充一下嗎請這個案子跟桃園機場公司有關的是這兩家廠商\n\n03:39.793 --> 04:00.550\n他們的工程正義的這個問題是我們航空機場的工程但是是他們兩家因為一個是上游一個是舊處他們之間的糾紛那他們所承接的這件工程目前的工程進度是超前以現況來講我們沒有什麼影響所以這是兩件事情OK那也是讓能夠有機會回應OK是\n\n04:00.990 --> 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