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00:01:37,288\n這第一個那我剛剛講的這一次十二強賽在我們菜市場會長鞠躬爵偉我相信這一次的比賽的表現是非常的好讓我們國人都非常的驚豔而且呢大大的掌聲那我知道我們昨天出發去東京的時候我們給他最高規格的一個灑水門禮那我現在要講的是\n\n5\n00:01:38,849 --> 00:02:06,285\n回來呢我相信他們到日本比賽也一定會繼續贏那繼續贏的情況之下民視會往前推那我們國人呢會非常的高興迎接這個史上最佳成績的這個我們臺灣隊的回來那回來我們桃集又準備好了嘛我必須講喔因為我們現在看熱烈的送他們去東京那\n\n6\n00:02:07,509 --> 00:02:21,386\n接下來繼續贏回來之後呢一定更多國人會興高采烈非常舉國歡騰的到桃園機場去迎接他們回來那第一個我想到的就是我們機場的動線第二個我想到的是停車的配置第三我們呢\n\n7\n00:02:25,331 --> 00:02:51,651\n上次已經有奧運的這樣子的一個經驗我們很多奧運的國手得了獎牌很多代表隊回來臺灣我們粉絲國人熱情的來接機所以有經驗但是呢預期可預期的是如果這一次我們的十二強贏得越多場名次越好棒球隊回來的時候國人來接機的一定會更多部長有沒有準備好\n\n8\n00:02:52,131 --> 00:03:11,966\n報告委員他們去是以英雄的方式歡送他們去那回來我們一定是用英雄的方式來迎接他們回來那桃機公司在過去在奧運的經驗已經有了不過我認為這次的規模跟盛大度可能會比過去再更大是的所以我要提醒一方面是停車二方面是我們在機場裡面的動線動線好看怎麼樣\n\n9\n00:03:14,910 --> 00:03:23,446\n讓這個來迎接的這些球迷們可以有一個舒適的動線又不影響到原本的機場的進出這個部分可能桃機的這部分要做一個更詳細的規劃\n\n10\n00:03:27,645 --> 00:03:54,919\n不管迎機場回來的接待歡迎的規格是一樣而且會比以往更高所以我們現在就過去的經驗跟這次很多單位都有表達用什麼方式來迎接那機場公司會全力配合包括昨天出去的時候我們也讓遊覽車直接上到我們要出境的那個樓層那這種是特別的規格那我們會用最熱忱而且是跟大家一起來歡迎他們回來\n\n11\n00:03:55,459 --> 00:04:02,209\n那所以針對他們歸國的最高規格的一個歡迎他們回來的這樣子的一個計畫規劃開始開會了嗎?開始調整動線了嗎?開始籌備了嗎?這一定要的吧?\n\n12\n00:04:10,564 --> 00:04:27,797\n我們會做好準備那因為有經驗所以有哪一些需要去做廚藝的現在就已經在思考我必須提醒喔就如同剛剛部長講的來接機的球迷一定會比奧運代表會接機的粉絲更多\n\n13\n00:04:28,878 --> 00:04:52,439\n那如果更多的情況之下那我們的機場動線、街機動線在不影響既有的這個國際、國內的旅客的權益之外那我們怎麼好好的規劃?第二個停車周邊的交通那又是如何改有配套措施?我覺得這個董事長真的要想啊會全盤的思考\n\n14\n00:04:55,011 --> 00:05:00,543\n會全盤的思考那我希望可以盡早因為我們已經在等著迎接臺灣隊的勝利回來\n\n15\n00:05:03,666 --> 00:05:30,623\n那過程你們籌備的過程可不可以給我們交通委員會知道一下第二個那比照奧運我知道之前在我們淘機為臺灣隊喝彩所以我們有很多應援區很多特殊計畫甚至為了各單項的國手給他們應援所以讓國人可以表達他自己的心意所以支持他們那我們這一次有可以比照12強臺灣隊的應援區嗎有打算嗎\n\n16\n00:05:35,740 --> 00:05:52,598\n報告委員這個應援區的部分因為時間有點短我們趕快快速來討論看要怎麼做另外我剛剛也請我們桃機公司楊董事長他們如果可以的話跟我們的職棒聯盟也就是蔡奇昌委員蔡奇昌會長方面大家來溝通因為當天一定有很多的球迷要來\n\n17\n00:05:53,579 --> 00:06:13,249\n對那而且是集中在一天跟奧運的狀況不一樣奧運是分很多天是那這個集中在一天的狀況底下可能光靠桃機自己去思考可能還不足我們跟這個職棒聯盟的部分來討論應援區的部分怎麼跟他們合作那球員區怎麼合作讓另外球迷區看要怎麼處理會比較完善大家一起來討論\n\n18\n00:06:13,889 --> 00:06:32,158\n對我相信蔡其昌會長有豐富的經驗可以給我們專業的意見那可以跟忠實跟我們桃機合作然後把這個準備做到最好所以拜託我們國人是非常期待而且強力的加油應援接著我就要再談剩下一點點時間我之前對於這個\n\n19\n00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:57,707\n空服員的一個服裝上次就一直很關心非常安全最重要服裝其實是在展現他的專業還有方便他在飛機上的一個工作所以這才是空服員穿那個制服的重點而且我必須提醒部長你看一下包括你們民航局\n\n20\n00:06:59,247 --> 00:07:05,432\n自己在這個網頁上都會跟國人宣導說搭機時怎樣的穿著\n\n21\n00:07:07,153 --> 00:07:12,275\n因為一旦發生了任何的問題逃生乘客自身的安全是最重要的所以他的肢體必須要靈活的活動能夠最好的應變措施\n\n22\n00:07:32,402 --> 00:07:46,347\n這是最重要的可是我們現在之前也有空服員的這個財政公會在說我們現在大部分的這個民航機的這個空服員的這個服裝要求女性穿窄裙\n\n23\n00:07:48,308 --> 00:08:08,286\n那我們透過了很多的一個提案也透過了媒體也透過了公會的爭取所以呢我知道我們開始啟動了我們不要再有性別的刻板印象我們希望能夠給女性空服員多一點的選擇那現在做到什麼程度了部長你知道嗎\n\n24\n00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:26,598\n報告委員目前像華航公司也已經有庫裝已經出來了雖然大家對於它的設計還有一些討論但它的庫裝已經有先出來了那我們的國際航空應該陸續也都會都有庫裝部長我今天就在跟你講最後這30秒就是因為我們國際航空都要慢慢來\n\n25\n00:08:27,739 --> 00:08:53,141\n對於這個服裝的改善的時程呢我跟你講我到現在還看不到你跟我講華航有設計設計預計明年要上路但是明年上路到底是明年年初還是明年年底我不知道啦那第二個湖航本來就是庫裝那新宇航空呢有承諾他也要改善也正在規劃當中可是其他的航空公司都還沒有看到欸也沒有任何時程表欸\n\n26\n00:08:54,662 --> 00:09:08,943\n我覺得這個服裝會改善了除了安全再來是性別平權而且是希望能夠讓我們的員工能夠有多元的選擇跟決策參與的機制是不是\n\n27\n00:09:09,844 --> 00:09:20,460\n我們已經從幾年前講到現在那去年我們在本委員會正式的提案通過那各個航空公司都說有有有有我們會研議我們會研議那到現在我覺得這個時程還是很落後\n\n28\n00:09:26,227 --> 00:09:51,558\n華航的部分應該已經不只是設計出來應該已經在做了啦那之所以會是明年上路的原因是因為他們的組員蠻多的所以正在製作當中應該是明年年初應該就可以完成明年年初就可以開始明年年初就可以讓大家穿褲裝這個沒有問題好我希望華航給我具體的承諾然後給我書面報告好不好那其他的國際航空呢局長你自己也是女性欸我們怎麼去要求有沒有去\n\n29\n00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:04,253\n有這個部分藏融的部分我們已經有告訴他那現在我們會請他提出具體的時程基本上應該是都有一個設計上路的時間\n\n30\n00:10:05,441 --> 00:10:32,972\n到目前為止都沒有啦華信也還沒有聽到啦也還沒有看到啦利榮跟長榮更不用說了德安也還沒有啊那我現在做這個表格是要告訴你是你要去積極要去溝通的幾家國際航空公司嘛我想連我們的國家人權委員會都已經開會而且呢也有建議有提議因為就我們多數的國際航空公司針對空服員的服役規範\n\n31\n00:10:34,192 --> 00:10:37,616\n儀式涉及性別歧視嘛對不對我剛剛一直在講這為了國際CEDAW我們都希望以這樣子公約為基礎上可以跟國際一樣我們不要有性別刻板印象我們應該要尊重性別平權嘛還有多元的選擇\n\n32\n00:10:52,375 --> 00:11:11,278\n我覺得這個理念大家都支持那為什麼落實的時程這麼慢呢而且這也不是很難的一件事啊只是讓女性空服員多了一個選擇可以穿褲子她活動比較靈活她更能夠守護這個乘客、旅客的安全啊\n\n33\n00:11:12,179 --> 00:11:27,659\n是不是部長是沒有錯我覺得這個應該要加速啦這應該要加速啦好不好我希望今年年底還可以再看到有更好的一個進步啦好不好局長加油啦身為女性我們要積極的來為我們的性別平權努力啦好不好是謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1855\t8301\t謝謝主席謝謝趙偉我們是不是請陳部長以及我們桃基的楊董事長楊董事長謝謝部長好很高興我相信你也喜歡棒球那世界棒球十二強賽臺灣隊\n22915\t49000\t今年的表現是有史以來最棒的一次那前幾天蔡吉昌是我們中職的會長那他也在我們這個會議室也在質詢希望呢像很多委員一樣在關心去東京的這個包機或者是去東京的這個位置可不可以再多一點那確實你剛好提到桃園飛東京有但是呢台中沒有因為本來就沒有這個航線\n50340\t69410\t所以我還是要跟油耗委員一樣這不分顏色還是要為中台灣的民眾再爭取一下希望我們能夠再繼續努力那我相信蔡其昌會長也是我們蔡其昌委員也會積極的要求希望我們清泉崗機場、國際機場、台中能夠飛往日本的能夠成型\n74472\t97288\t這第一個那我剛剛講的這一次十二強賽在我們菜市場會長鞠躬爵偉我相信這一次的比賽的表現是非常的好讓我們國人都非常的驚豔而且呢大大的掌聲那我知道我們昨天出發去東京的時候我們給他最高規格的一個灑水門禮那我現在要講的是\n98849\t126285\t回來呢我相信他們到日本比賽也一定會繼續贏那繼續贏的情況之下民視會往前推那我們國人呢會非常的高興迎接這個史上最佳成績的這個我們臺灣隊的回來那回來我們桃集又準備好了嘛我必須講喔因為我們現在看熱烈的送他們去東京那\n127509\t141386\t接下來繼續贏回來之後呢一定更多國人會興高采烈非常舉國歡騰的到桃園機場去迎接他們回來那第一個我想到的就是我們機場的動線第二個我想到的是停車的配置第三我們呢\n145331\t171651\t上次已經有奧運的這樣子的一個經驗我們很多奧運的國手得了獎牌很多代表隊回來臺灣我們粉絲國人熱情的來接機所以有經驗但是呢預期可預期的是如果這一次我們的十二強贏得越多場名次越好棒球隊回來的時候國人來接機的一定會更多部長有沒有準備好\n172131\t191966\t報告委員他們去是以英雄的方式歡送他們去那回來我們一定是用英雄的方式來迎接他們回來那桃機公司在過去在奧運的經驗已經有了不過我認為這次的規模跟盛大度可能會比過去再更大是的所以我要提醒一方面是停車二方面是我們在機場裡面的動線動線好看怎麼樣\n194910\t203446\t讓這個來迎接的這些球迷們可以有一個舒適的動線又不影響到原本的機場的進出這個部分可能桃機的這部分要做一個更詳細的規劃\n207645\t234919\t不管迎機場回來的接待歡迎的規格是一樣而且會比以往更高所以我們現在就過去的經驗跟這次很多單位都有表達用什麼方式來迎接那機場公司會全力配合包括昨天出去的時候我們也讓遊覽車直接上到我們要出境的那個樓層那這種是特別的規格那我們會用最熱忱而且是跟大家一起來歡迎他們回來\n235459\t242209\t那所以針對他們歸國的最高規格的一個歡迎他們回來的這樣子的一個計畫規劃開始開會了嗎?開始調整動線了嗎?開始籌備了嗎?這一定要的吧?\n250564\t267797\t我們會做好準備那因為有經驗所以有哪一些需要去做廚藝的現在就已經在思考我必須提醒喔就如同剛剛部長講的來接機的球迷一定會比奧運代表會接機的粉絲更多\n268878\t292439\t那如果更多的情況之下那我們的機場動線、街機動線在不影響既有的這個國際、國內的旅客的權益之外那我們怎麼好好的規劃?第二個停車周邊的交通那又是如何改有配套措施?我覺得這個董事長真的要想啊會全盤的思考\n295011\t300543\t會全盤的思考那我希望可以盡早因為我們已經在等著迎接臺灣隊的勝利回來\n303666\t330623\t那過程你們籌備的過程可不可以給我們交通委員會知道一下第二個那比照奧運我知道之前在我們淘機為臺灣隊喝彩所以我們有很多應援區很多特殊計畫甚至為了各單項的國手給他們應援所以讓國人可以表達他自己的心意所以支持他們那我們這一次有可以比照12強臺灣隊的應援區嗎有打算嗎\n335740\t352598\t報告委員這個應援區的部分因為時間有點短我們趕快快速來討論看要怎麼做另外我剛剛也請我們桃機公司楊董事長他們如果可以的話跟我們的職棒聯盟也就是蔡奇昌委員蔡奇昌會長方面大家來溝通因為當天一定有很多的球迷要來\n353579\t373249\t對那而且是集中在一天跟奧運的狀況不一樣奧運是分很多天是那這個集中在一天的狀況底下可能光靠桃機自己去思考可能還不足我們跟這個職棒聯盟的部分來討論應援區的部分怎麼跟他們合作那球員區怎麼合作讓另外球迷區看要怎麼處理會比較完善大家一起來討論\n373889\t392158\t對我相信蔡其昌會長有豐富的經驗可以給我們專業的意見那可以跟忠實跟我們桃機合作然後把這個準備做到最好所以拜託我們國人是非常期待而且強力的加油應援接著我就要再談剩下一點點時間我之前對於這個\n396500\t417707\t空服員的一個服裝上次就一直很關心非常安全最重要服裝其實是在展現他的專業還有方便他在飛機上的一個工作所以這才是空服員穿那個制服的重點而且我必須提醒部長你看一下包括你們民航局\n419247\t425432\t自己在這個網頁上都會跟國人宣導說搭機時怎樣的穿著\n427153\t432275\t因為一旦發生了任何的問題逃生乘客自身的安全是最重要的所以他的肢體必須要靈活的活動能夠最好的應變措施\n452402\t466347\t這是最重要的可是我們現在之前也有空服員的這個財政公會在說我們現在大部分的這個民航機的這個空服員的這個服裝要求女性穿窄裙\n468308\t488286\t那我們透過了很多的一個提案也透過了媒體也透過了公會的爭取所以呢我知道我們開始啟動了我們不要再有性別的刻板印象我們希望能夠給女性空服員多一點的選擇那現在做到什麼程度了部長你知道嗎\n488966\t506598\t報告委員目前像華航公司也已經有庫裝已經出來了雖然大家對於它的設計還有一些討論但它的庫裝已經有先出來了那我們的國際航空應該陸續也都會都有庫裝部長我今天就在跟你講最後這30秒就是因為我們國際航空都要慢慢來\n507739\t533141\t對於這個服裝的改善的時程呢我跟你講我到現在還看不到你跟我講華航有設計設計預計明年要上路但是明年上路到底是明年年初還是明年年底我不知道啦那第二個湖航本來就是庫裝那新宇航空呢有承諾他也要改善也正在規劃當中可是其他的航空公司都還沒有看到欸也沒有任何時程表欸\n534662\t548943\t我覺得這個服裝會改善了除了安全再來是性別平權而且是希望能夠讓我們的員工能夠有多元的選擇跟決策參與的機制是不是\n549844\t560460\t我們已經從幾年前講到現在那去年我們在本委員會正式的提案通過那各個航空公司都說有有有有我們會研議我們會研議那到現在我覺得這個時程還是很落後\n566227\t591558\t華航的部分應該已經不只是設計出來應該已經在做了啦那之所以會是明年上路的原因是因為他們的組員蠻多的所以正在製作當中應該是明年年初應該就可以完成明年年初就可以開始明年年初就可以讓大家穿褲裝這個沒有問題好我希望華航給我具體的承諾然後給我書面報告好不好那其他的國際航空呢局長你自己也是女性欸我們怎麼去要求有沒有去\n594000\t604253\t有這個部分藏融的部分我們已經有告訴他那現在我們會請他提出具體的時程基本上應該是都有一個設計上路的時間\n605441\t632972\t到目前為止都沒有啦華信也還沒有聽到啦也還沒有看到啦利榮跟長榮更不用說了德安也還沒有啊那我現在做這個表格是要告訴你是你要去積極要去溝通的幾家國際航空公司嘛我想連我們的國家人權委員會都已經開會而且呢也有建議有提議因為就我們多數的國際航空公司針對空服員的服役規範\n634192\t637616\t儀式涉及性別歧視嘛 對不對我剛剛一直在講這為了國際CEDAW我們都希望以這樣子公約為基礎上可以跟國際一樣我們不要有性別刻板印象我們應該要尊重性別平權嘛還有多元的選擇\n652375\t671278\t我覺得這個理念大家都支持那為什麼落實的時程這麼慢呢而且這也不是很難的一件事啊只是讓女性空服員多了一個選擇可以穿褲子她活動比較靈活她更能夠守護這個乘客、旅客的安全啊\n672179\t687659\t是不是 部長是 沒有錯 我覺得這個應該要加速啦這應該要加速啦好不好我希望今年年底還可以再看到有更好的一個進步啦好不好 局長加油啦身為女性我們要積極的來為我們的性別平權努力啦好不好是 謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席謝謝趙偉我們是不是請陳部長以及我們桃基的楊董事長楊董事長謝謝部長好很高興我相信你也喜歡棒球那世界棒球十二強賽臺灣隊\n今年的表現是有史以來最棒的一次那前幾天蔡吉昌是我們中職的會長那他也在我們這個會議室也在質詢希望呢像很多委員一樣在關心去東京的這個包機或者是去東京的這個位置可不可以再多一點那確實你剛好提到桃園飛東京有但是呢台中沒有因為本來就沒有這個航線\n所以我還是要跟油耗委員一樣這不分顏色還是要為中台灣的民眾再爭取一下希望我們能夠再繼續努力那我相信蔡其昌會長也是我們蔡其昌委員也會積極的要求希望我們清泉崗機場、國際機場、台中能夠飛往日本的能夠成型\n這第一個那我剛剛講的這一次十二強賽在我們菜市場會長鞠躬爵偉我相信這一次的比賽的表現是非常的好讓我們國人都非常的驚豔而且呢大大的掌聲那我知道我們昨天出發去東京的時候我們給他最高規格的一個灑水門禮那我現在要講的是\n回來呢我相信他們到日本比賽也一定會繼續贏那繼續贏的情況之下民視會往前推那我們國人呢會非常的高興迎接這個史上最佳成績的這個我們臺灣隊的回來那回來我們桃集又準備好了嘛我必須講喔因為我們現在看熱烈的送他們去東京那\n接下來繼續贏回來之後呢一定更多國人會興高采烈非常舉國歡騰的到桃園機場去迎接他們回來那第一個我想到的就是我們機場的動線第二個我想到的是停車的配置第三我們呢\n上次已經有奧運的這樣子的一個經驗我們很多奧運的國手得了獎牌很多代表隊回來臺灣我們粉絲國人熱情的來接機所以有經驗但是呢預期可預期的是如果這一次我們的十二強贏得越多場名次越好棒球隊回來的時候國人來接機的一定會更多部長有沒有準備好\n報告委員他們去是以英雄的方式歡送他們去那回來我們一定是用英雄的方式來迎接他們回來那桃機公司在過去在奧運的經驗已經有了不過我認為這次的規模跟盛大度可能會比過去再更大是的所以我要提醒一方面是停車二方面是我們在機場裡面的動線動線好看怎麼樣\n讓這個來迎接的這些球迷們可以有一個舒適的動線又不影響到原本的機場的進出這個部分可能桃機的這部分要做一個更詳細的規劃\n不管迎機場回來的接待歡迎的規格是一樣而且會比以往更高所以我們現在就過去的經驗跟這次很多單位都有表達用什麼方式來迎接那機場公司會全力配合包括昨天出去的時候我們也讓遊覽車直接上到我們要出境的那個樓層那這種是特別的規格那我們會用最熱忱而且是跟大家一起來歡迎他們回來\n那所以針對他們歸國的最高規格的一個歡迎他們回來的這樣子的一個計畫規劃開始開會了嗎?開始調整動線了嗎?開始籌備了嗎?這一定要的吧?\n我們會做好準備那因為有經驗所以有哪一些需要去做廚藝的現在就已經在思考我必須提醒喔就如同剛剛部長講的來接機的球迷一定會比奧運代表會接機的粉絲更多\n那如果更多的情況之下那我們的機場動線、街機動線在不影響既有的這個國際、國內的旅客的權益之外那我們怎麼好好的規劃?第二個停車周邊的交通那又是如何改有配套措施?我覺得這個董事長真的要想啊會全盤的思考\n會全盤的思考那我希望可以盡早因為我們已經在等著迎接臺灣隊的勝利回來\n那過程你們籌備的過程可不可以給我們交通委員會知道一下第二個那比照奧運我知道之前在我們淘機為臺灣隊喝彩所以我們有很多應援區很多特殊計畫甚至為了各單項的國手給他們應援所以讓國人可以表達他自己的心意所以支持他們那我們這一次有可以比照12強臺灣隊的應援區嗎有打算嗎\n報告委員這個應援區的部分因為時間有點短我們趕快快速來討論看要怎麼做另外我剛剛也請我們桃機公司楊董事長他們如果可以的話跟我們的職棒聯盟也就是蔡奇昌委員蔡奇昌會長方面大家來溝通因為當天一定有很多的球迷要來\n對那而且是集中在一天跟奧運的狀況不一樣奧運是分很多天是那這個集中在一天的狀況底下可能光靠桃機自己去思考可能還不足我們跟這個職棒聯盟的部分來討論應援區的部分怎麼跟他們合作那球員區怎麼合作讓另外球迷區看要怎麼處理會比較完善大家一起來討論\n對我相信蔡其昌會長有豐富的經驗可以給我們專業的意見那可以跟忠實跟我們桃機合作然後把這個準備做到最好所以拜託我們國人是非常期待而且強力的加油應援接著我就要再談剩下一點點時間我之前對於這個\n空服員的一個服裝上次就一直很關心非常安全最重要服裝其實是在展現他的專業還有方便他在飛機上的一個工作所以這才是空服員穿那個制服的重點而且我必須提醒部長你看一下包括你們民航局\n自己在這個網頁上都會跟國人宣導說搭機時怎樣的穿著\n因為一旦發生了任何的問題逃生乘客自身的安全是最重要的所以他的肢體必須要靈活的活動能夠最好的應變措施\n這是最重要的可是我們現在之前也有空服員的這個財政公會在說我們現在大部分的這個民航機的這個空服員的這個服裝要求女性穿窄裙\n那我們透過了很多的一個提案也透過了媒體也透過了公會的爭取所以呢我知道我們開始啟動了我們不要再有性別的刻板印象我們希望能夠給女性空服員多一點的選擇那現在做到什麼程度了部長你知道嗎\n報告委員目前像華航公司也已經有庫裝已經出來了雖然大家對於它的設計還有一些討論但它的庫裝已經有先出來了那我們的國際航空應該陸續也都會都有庫裝部長我今天就在跟你講最後這30秒就是因為我們國際航空都要慢慢來\n對於這個服裝的改善的時程呢我跟你講我到現在還看不到你跟我講華航有設計設計預計明年要上路但是明年上路到底是明年年初還是明年年底我不知道啦那第二個湖航本來就是庫裝那新宇航空呢有承諾他也要改善也正在規劃當中可是其他的航空公司都還沒有看到欸也沒有任何時程表欸\n我覺得這個服裝會改善了除了安全再來是性別平權而且是希望能夠讓我們的員工能夠有多元的選擇跟決策參與的機制是不是\n我們已經從幾年前講到現在那去年我們在本委員會正式的提案通過那各個航空公司都說有有有有我們會研議我們會研議那到現在我覺得這個時程還是很落後\n華航的部分應該已經不只是設計出來應該已經在做了啦那之所以會是明年上路的原因是因為他們的組員蠻多的所以正在製作當中應該是明年年初應該就可以完成明年年初就可以開始明年年初就可以讓大家穿褲裝這個沒有問題好我希望華航給我具體的承諾然後給我書面報告好不好那其他的國際航空呢局長你自己也是女性欸我們怎麼去要求有沒有去\n有這個部分藏融的部分我們已經有告訴他那現在我們會請他提出具體的時程基本上應該是都有一個設計上路的時間\n到目前為止都沒有啦華信也還沒有聽到啦也還沒有看到啦利榮跟長榮更不用說了德安也還沒有啊那我現在做這個表格是要告訴你是你要去積極要去溝通的幾家國際航空公司嘛我想連我們的國家人權委員會都已經開會而且呢也有建議有提議因為就我們多數的國際航空公司針對空服員的服役規範\n儀式涉及性別歧視嘛 對不對我剛剛一直在講這為了國際CEDAW我們都希望以這樣子公約為基礎上可以跟國際一樣我們不要有性別刻板印象我們應該要尊重性別平權嘛還有多元的選擇\n我覺得這個理念大家都支持那為什麼落實的時程這麼慢呢而且這也不是很難的一件事啊只是讓女性空服員多了一個選擇可以穿褲子她活動比較靈活她更能夠守護這個乘客、旅客的安全啊\n是不是 部長是 沒有錯 我覺得這個應該要加速啦這應該要加速啦好不好我希望今年年底還可以再看到有更好的一個進步啦好不好 局長加油啦身為女性我們要積極的來為我們的性別平權努力啦好不好是 謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.855 --> 00:08.301\n謝謝主席謝謝趙偉我們是不是請陳部長以及我們桃基的楊董事長楊董事長謝謝部長好很高興我相信你也喜歡棒球那世界棒球十二強賽臺灣隊\n\n00:22.915 --> 00:49.000\n今年的表現是有史以來最棒的一次那前幾天蔡吉昌是我們中職的會長那他也在我們這個會議室也在質詢希望呢像很多委員一樣在關心去東京的這個包機或者是去東京的這個位置可不可以再多一點那確實你剛好提到桃園飛東京有但是呢台中沒有因為本來就沒有這個航線\n\n00:50.340 --> 01:09.410\n所以我還是要跟油耗委員一樣這不分顏色還是要為中台灣的民眾再爭取一下希望我們能夠再繼續努力那我相信蔡其昌會長也是我們蔡其昌委員也會積極的要求希望我們清泉崗機場、國際機場、台中能夠飛往日本的能夠成型\n\n01:14.472 --> 01:37.288\n這第一個那我剛剛講的這一次十二強賽在我們菜市場會長鞠躬爵偉我相信這一次的比賽的表現是非常的好讓我們國人都非常的驚豔而且呢大大的掌聲那我知道我們昨天出發去東京的時候我們給他最高規格的一個灑水門禮那我現在要講的是\n\n01:38.849 --> 02:06.285\n回來呢我相信他們到日本比賽也一定會繼續贏那繼續贏的情況之下民視會往前推那我們國人呢會非常的高興迎接這個史上最佳成績的這個我們臺灣隊的回來那回來我們桃集又準備好了嘛我必須講喔因為我們現在看熱烈的送他們去東京那\n\n02:07.509 --> 02:21.386\n接下來繼續贏回來之後呢一定更多國人會興高采烈非常舉國歡騰的到桃園機場去迎接他們回來那第一個我想到的就是我們機場的動線第二個我想到的是停車的配置第三我們呢\n\n02:25.331 --> 02:51.651\n上次已經有奧運的這樣子的一個經驗我們很多奧運的國手得了獎牌很多代表隊回來臺灣我們粉絲國人熱情的來接機所以有經驗但是呢預期可預期的是如果這一次我們的十二強贏得越多場名次越好棒球隊回來的時候國人來接機的一定會更多部長有沒有準備好\n\n02:52.131 --> 03:11.966\n報告委員他們去是以英雄的方式歡送他們去那回來我們一定是用英雄的方式來迎接他們回來那桃機公司在過去在奧運的經驗已經有了不過我認為這次的規模跟盛大度可能會比過去再更大是的所以我要提醒一方面是停車二方面是我們在機場裡面的動線動線好看怎麼樣\n\n03:14.910 --> 03:23.446\n讓這個來迎接的這些球迷們可以有一個舒適的動線又不影響到原本的機場的進出這個部分可能桃機的這部分要做一個更詳細的規劃\n\n03:27.645 --> 03:54.919\n不管迎機場回來的接待歡迎的規格是一樣而且會比以往更高所以我們現在就過去的經驗跟這次很多單位都有表達用什麼方式來迎接那機場公司會全力配合包括昨天出去的時候我們也讓遊覽車直接上到我們要出境的那個樓層那這種是特別的規格那我們會用最熱忱而且是跟大家一起來歡迎他們回來\n\n03:55.459 --> 04:02.209\n那所以針對他們歸國的最高規格的一個歡迎他們回來的這樣子的一個計畫規劃開始開會了嗎?開始調整動線了嗎?開始籌備了嗎?這一定要的吧?\n\n04:10.564 --> 04:27.797\n我們會做好準備那因為有經驗所以有哪一些需要去做廚藝的現在就已經在思考我必須提醒喔就如同剛剛部長講的來接機的球迷一定會比奧運代表會接機的粉絲更多\n\n04:28.878 --> 04:52.439\n那如果更多的情況之下那我們的機場動線、街機動線在不影響既有的這個國際、國內的旅客的權益之外那我們怎麼好好的規劃?第二個停車周邊的交通那又是如何改有配套措施?我覺得這個董事長真的要想啊會全盤的思考\n\n04:55.011 --> 05:00.543\n會全盤的思考那我希望可以盡早因為我們已經在等著迎接臺灣隊的勝利回來\n\n05:03.666 --> 05:30.623\n那過程你們籌備的過程可不可以給我們交通委員會知道一下第二個那比照奧運我知道之前在我們淘機為臺灣隊喝彩所以我們有很多應援區很多特殊計畫甚至為了各單項的國手給他們應援所以讓國人可以表達他自己的心意所以支持他們那我們這一次有可以比照12強臺灣隊的應援區嗎有打算嗎\n\n05:35.740 --> 05:52.598\n報告委員這個應援區的部分因為時間有點短我們趕快快速來討論看要怎麼做另外我剛剛也請我們桃機公司楊董事長他們如果可以的話跟我們的職棒聯盟也就是蔡奇昌委員蔡奇昌會長方面大家來溝通因為當天一定有很多的球迷要來\n\n05:53.579 --> 06:13.249\n對那而且是集中在一天跟奧運的狀況不一樣奧運是分很多天是那這個集中在一天的狀況底下可能光靠桃機自己去思考可能還不足我們跟這個職棒聯盟的部分來討論應援區的部分怎麼跟他們合作那球員區怎麼合作讓另外球迷區看要怎麼處理會比較完善大家一起來討論\n\n06:13.889 --> 06:32.158\n對我相信蔡其昌會長有豐富的經驗可以給我們專業的意見那可以跟忠實跟我們桃機合作然後把這個準備做到最好所以拜託我們國人是非常期待而且強力的加油應援接著我就要再談剩下一點點時間我之前對於這個\n\n06:36.500 --> 06:57.707\n空服員的一個服裝上次就一直很關心非常安全最重要服裝其實是在展現他的專業還有方便他在飛機上的一個工作所以這才是空服員穿那個制服的重點而且我必須提醒部長你看一下包括你們民航局\n\n06:59.247 --> 07:05.432\n自己在這個網頁上都會跟國人宣導說搭機時怎樣的穿著\n\n07:07.153 --> 07:12.275\n因為一旦發生了任何的問題逃生乘客自身的安全是最重要的所以他的肢體必須要靈活的活動能夠最好的應變措施\n\n07:32.402 --> 07:46.347\n這是最重要的可是我們現在之前也有空服員的這個財政公會在說我們現在大部分的這個民航機的這個空服員的這個服裝要求女性穿窄裙\n\n07:48.308 --> 08:08.286\n那我們透過了很多的一個提案也透過了媒體也透過了公會的爭取所以呢我知道我們開始啟動了我們不要再有性別的刻板印象我們希望能夠給女性空服員多一點的選擇那現在做到什麼程度了部長你知道嗎\n\n08:08.966 --> 08:26.598\n報告委員目前像華航公司也已經有庫裝已經出來了雖然大家對於它的設計還有一些討論但它的庫裝已經有先出來了那我們的國際航空應該陸續也都會都有庫裝部長我今天就在跟你講最後這30秒就是因為我們國際航空都要慢慢來\n\n08:27.739 --> 08:53.141\n對於這個服裝的改善的時程呢我跟你講我到現在還看不到你跟我講華航有設計設計預計明年要上路但是明年上路到底是明年年初還是明年年底我不知道啦那第二個湖航本來就是庫裝那新宇航空呢有承諾他也要改善也正在規劃當中可是其他的航空公司都還沒有看到欸也沒有任何時程表欸\n\n08:54.662 --> 09:08.943\n我覺得這個服裝會改善了除了安全再來是性別平權而且是希望能夠讓我們的員工能夠有多元的選擇跟決策參與的機制是不是\n\n09:09.844 --> 09:20.460\n我們已經從幾年前講到現在那去年我們在本委員會正式的提案通過那各個航空公司都說有有有有我們會研議我們會研議那到現在我覺得這個時程還是很落後\n\n09:26.227 --> 09:51.558\n華航的部分應該已經不只是設計出來應該已經在做了啦那之所以會是明年上路的原因是因為他們的組員蠻多的所以正在製作當中應該是明年年初應該就可以完成明年年初就可以開始明年年初就可以讓大家穿褲裝這個沒有問題好我希望華航給我具體的承諾然後給我書面報告好不好那其他的國際航空呢局長你自己也是女性欸我們怎麼去要求有沒有去\n\n09:54.000 --> 10:04.253\n有這個部分藏融的部分我們已經有告訴他那現在我們會請他提出具體的時程基本上應該是都有一個設計上路的時間\n\n10:05.441 --> 10:32.972\n到目前為止都沒有啦華信也還沒有聽到啦也還沒有看到啦利榮跟長榮更不用說了德安也還沒有啊那我現在做這個表格是要告訴你是你要去積極要去溝通的幾家國際航空公司嘛我想連我們的國家人權委員會都已經開會而且呢也有建議有提議因為就我們多數的國際航空公司針對空服員的服役規範\n\n10:34.192 --> 10:37.616\n儀式涉及性別歧視嘛對不對我剛剛一直在講這為了國際CEDAW我們都希望以這樣子公約為基礎上可以跟國際一樣我們不要有性別刻板印象我們應該要尊重性別平權嘛還有多元的選擇\n\n10:52.375 --> 11:11.278\n我覺得這個理念大家都支持那為什麼落實的時程這麼慢呢而且這也不是很難的一件事啊只是讓女性空服員多了一個選擇可以穿褲子她活動比較靈活她更能夠守護這個乘客、旅客的安全啊\n\n11:12.179 --> 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