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00:03:16,612\n前一段時間問你們交通部你們交通部是說根本沒有啦你們現在已經完全停辦欸我就不懂三年前我們交通部還補貼桃園市政府交通局還跟桃園市政府一同做了這個大型車輛智慧管理辨識系統\n\n9\n00:03:18,425 --> 00:03:45,071\n結果這個實驗計畫做得很成功當然人家當時的桃園市政府跟整個交通局他們的配合有關啦他們當時很認真地做他達到很大的效果像比方說他降低了大量降低了超速啦、車禍啦甚至可以對行人尤其在學校附近那對小朋友們那有做出那個警示的一些標語\n\n10\n00:03:46,911 --> 00:03:48,933\n二、審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審議\n\n11\n00:04:06,623 --> 00:04:30,200\n這些結果我搞不懂為什麼你們不做現在我問了那個施策會他們說有啊這個技術他們研發很完整啦但是一直沒有看到聽到交通部跟他們有任何的這一方面跟他們做探討所以兩位司長你們看法呢就數位車牌你們就這樣不做了嗎\n\n12\n00:04:32,081 --> 00:04:58,931\n這個部分跟委員報告一下第一個就偽造車牌的一個這個部分的話那跟委員報告除了這個法律就是說修法提高這個罰款然後沒入車輛之外那實務上那基本上公務局跟內政部警務署還有其他部會的部分從這一個就是說不敢賣買不到然後不敢用全面展開相關防制的一個部分那回到剛剛委員所提到的就是說\n\n13\n00:04:59,771 --> 00:05:03,694\n你還要討論多久?多久可以給我答覆?你剛講了半天我就是還沒聽到你有什麼其中\n\n14\n00:05:27,771 --> 00:05:42,174\n你這個timetable要出來嘛第一個你預估評估總共這樣建制要花費多少預算這個抓了你第二個你像每年汽汽車車牌也發了一百多萬個啊不是嗎\n\n15\n00:05:44,008 --> 00:06:03,700\n你喔在短時間內打一份報告給我給我們全體委員好不好到底數位車牌做還是不做大家這些先進國家都在做啦杜拜甚至人家他已經變成智慧車牌車子被偷了他車子還直接可以顯示我被偷啦\n\n16\n00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:32,371\n人家到這種地步喔欸那個欸那個主席不好意思齁我再簡單一點說您兩位請回兩位請回好不好你給我做一份這樣的報告出來齁這個集成還有預算抓一下討厭那個補助才一千萬人家就做得那麼好好不好我知道這個花費幾十億跑不掉了但是應該要做好不好請回我不好意思我再請那個那個\n\n17\n00:06:36,181 --> 00:06:57,153\n衛福部吼?衛福部吼?哪一位?廖司長是?啊!部長來啦!部長有來喔!你來最好!好!內政部董次長!董次長喔!委員好!那個...部長!次長!\n\n18\n00:06:58,545 --> 00:07:13,201\n財政部國庫署每年都發函給各部會說我們各部會是不是應該要發乙類公債來籌措這些資金結果言者尊尊聽者渺渺\n\n19\n00:07:16,127 --> 00:07:43,396\n除了交通部以外交通部這10年來至少人家跟財政部的幫忙之下推了7檔的這個債券那這些債券很正確啊用在桃園這個航空城土地取得高速鐵路附近周遭周邊道路的建設這些都很正面那我為什麼找你們兩位提你們兩位啊\n\n20\n00:07:44,236 --> 00:08:09,198\n是除了僅次於交通部以外公共建設最多的部長我們衛福部有長照啊不是嗎還有各大醫學中心、教學醫院大型的區域醫院、部立醫院等等這些整建修建這些都有自償性不是嗎現在長照正需要尤其是全日長照那\n\n21\n00:08:11,969 --> 00:08:18,062\n內政部也是啊你們狹下有那麼多社會住宅\n\n22\n00:08:19,929 --> 00:08:47,180\n各項的公教人員住宅很多那我從來沒看到你們積極在辦理這一點那麼推動這些餘總債券的好處這個不用我說啦紓解公務預算的壓力嘛同時也引導我們民間的遊資能夠讓他們來參與公共建設來增加我們的國力促進我們經濟的發展\n\n23\n00:08:48,854 --> 00:09:14,174\n有點這麼多啊那結果你們這麼多年來四個字四個字變於形式要花錢變預算就有啦預算不夠那用借的跟銀行借銀行借利息都不低欸我看了各大銀行平均下來啦借你們大概都2.5到2.7以上啦喔\n\n24\n00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:20,822\n比他們借給蜀橋三兄弟還高\n\n25\n00:09:22,748 --> 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00:12.785\n謝謝主席,我請交通部兩位司長、運輸監理、科技資訊交通部兩位司長還有呢?運輸監理、科技資訊林福山市長跟黃興勳市長\n\n00:29.235 --> 00:57.711\n兩位司長假車牌已經變成犯罪工具那麼很多犯罪者他當然會使用假車牌來製造斷點增加警方追緝的困難度而且假車牌這幾年也造成我們無辜市民都受害很多市民因為假車牌收到很多實質的罰單有一位市民甚至\n\n00:59.967 --> 01:09.097\n這個一個月內收到是3張都是敗假車牌之事那麼這3年來假車牌從一年169件暴增6倍\n\n01:13.186 --> 01:40.219\n到今年統計到現在為止已經1012件啊暴增了6倍之多所以如果我們單單只是照你們現在交通部做的就是說提高這個罰款你們確實罰款提高很多但是這是簡單講五個字治標不治本啊為什麼因為他既然要犯罪了比方說\n\n01:42.875 --> 02:06.753\n詐騙集團、車手他隨便跑一單詐騙的金額數十萬上百萬之多隨便他跑一單籌金也十幾二十萬他哪有怕你這個罰金你倍增你漲到一萬多塊他也沒關係啊不是嗎那菜道集團更不用講啦\n\n02:07.765 --> 02:30.062\n所以我認為解決的方式啦當然你們也有去宣導說這個網路不能再去販賣會去查緝這個可是這些要犯罪的人要購買假車牌啊假車牌的購買已經形成一個特殊的產業鏈啦\n\n02:31.852 --> 02:33.192\n二、審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請\n\n02:55.393 --> 03:16.612\n前一段時間問你們交通部你們交通部是說根本沒有啦你們現在已經完全停辦欸我就不懂三年前我們交通部還補貼桃園市政府交通局還跟桃園市政府一同做了這個大型車輛智慧管理辨識系統\n\n03:18.425 --> 03:45.071\n結果這個實驗計畫做得很成功當然人家當時的桃園市政府跟整個交通局他們的配合有關啦他們當時很認真地做他達到很大的效果像比方說他降低了大量降低了超速啦、車禍啦甚至可以對行人尤其在學校附近那對小朋友們那有做出那個警示的一些標語\n\n03:46.911 --> 03:48.933\n二、審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審議\n\n04:06.623 --> 04:30.200\n這些結果我搞不懂為什麼你們不做現在我問了那個施策會他們說有啊這個技術他們研發很完整啦但是一直沒有看到聽到交通部跟他們有任何的這一方面跟他們做探討所以兩位司長你們看法呢就數位車牌你們就這樣不做了嗎\n\n04:32.081 --> 04:58.931\n這個部分跟委員報告一下第一個就偽造車牌的一個這個部分的話那跟委員報告除了這個法律就是說修法提高這個罰款然後沒入車輛之外那實務上那基本上公務局跟內政部警務署還有其他部會的部分從這一個就是說不敢賣買不到然後不敢用全面展開相關防制的一個部分那回到剛剛委員所提到的就是說\n\n04:59.771 --> 05:03.694\n你還要討論多久?多久可以給我答覆?你剛講了半天我就是還沒聽到你有什麼其中\n\n05:27.771 --> 05:42.174\n你這個timetable要出來嘛第一個你預估評估總共這樣建制要花費多少預算這個抓了你第二個你像每年汽汽車車牌也發了一百多萬個啊不是嗎\n\n05:44.008 --> 06:03.700\n你喔在短時間內打一份報告給我給我們全體委員好不好到底數位車牌做還是不做大家這些先進國家都在做啦杜拜甚至人家他已經變成智慧車牌車子被偷了他車子還直接可以顯示我被偷啦\n\n06:04.620 --> 06:32.371\n人家到這種地步喔欸那個欸那個主席不好意思齁我再簡單一點說您兩位請回兩位請回好不好你給我做一份這樣的報告出來齁這個集成還有預算抓一下討厭那個補助才一千萬人家就做得那麼好好不好我知道這個花費幾十億跑不掉了但是應該要做好不好請回我不好意思我再請那個那個\n\n06:36.181 --> 06:57.153\n衛福部吼?衛福部吼?哪一位?廖司長是?啊!部長來啦!部長有來喔!你來最好!好!內政部董次長!董次長喔!委員好!那個...部長!次長!\n\n06:58.545 --> 07:13.201\n財政部國庫署每年都發函給各部會說我們各部會是不是應該要發乙類公債來籌措這些資金結果言者尊尊聽者渺渺\n\n07:16.127 --> 07:43.396\n除了交通部以外交通部這10年來至少人家跟財政部的幫忙之下推了7檔的這個債券那這些債券很正確啊用在桃園這個航空城土地取得高速鐵路附近周遭周邊道路的建設這些都很正面那我為什麼找你們兩位提你們兩位啊\n\n07:44.236 --> 08:09.198\n是除了僅次於交通部以外公共建設最多的部長我們衛福部有長照啊不是嗎還有各大醫學中心、教學醫院大型的區域醫院、部立醫院等等這些整建修建這些都有自償性不是嗎現在長照正需要尤其是全日長照那\n\n08:11.969 --> 08:18.062\n內政部也是啊你們狹下有那麼多社會住宅\n\n08:19.929 --> 08:47.180\n各項的公教人員住宅很多那我從來沒看到你們積極在辦理這一點那麼推動這些餘總債券的好處這個不用我說啦紓解公務預算的壓力嘛同時也引導我們民間的遊資能夠讓他們來參與公共建設來增加我們的國力促進我們經濟的發展\n\n08:48.854 --> 09:14.174\n有點這麼多啊那結果你們這麼多年來四個字四個字變於形式要花錢變預算就有啦預算不夠那用借的跟銀行借銀行借利息都不低欸我看了各大銀行平均下來啦借你們大概都2.5到2.7以上啦喔\n\n09:18.308 --> 09:20.822\n比他們借給蜀橋三兄弟還高\n\n09:22.748 --> 09:51.719\n所以這麼可惡的銀行體系那我另外再說所以我希望你們打起精神好不好對你們狹下的包括醫院、長照、包括社會住宅這些有意義的公共建設你們應該除了預算之外那應該籌措民間的遊資做一種債券好不好做這一部分的研究可不可以\n\n09:52.339 --> 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