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00:02:10,250\n國小教練他言語霸凌我們小朋友說你的體力這麼差你不會打球的話你就去種菜經過考評會以後老師被解聘了教練被解聘結果沒有多久他又被聘為代課老師我想知道說教育部對這方面的有沒有一個限制比如說他已經被解聘了沒有多久又變成代課老師這樣一個機制是怎麼會存在\n\n6\n00:02:12,228 --> 00:02:35,614\n跟委員報告,因為這個可能會涉及到當時他解聘的原因,還有某案的這個…好,沒關係,屏東縣又發生這樣的事情,也是因為扮球教練他就是不適任,結果霸凌學生後一年,他管制期間是一年,2024到2月7號,應該是明年才可以再研究他能不能再被續聘,結果他現在又被續聘為高中的\n\n7\n00:02:36,454 --> 00:03:00,509\n半球教練在我們現在的屏東縣的某個高中學生的家長來跟我投訴說這樣的一個教練怎麼會適合繼續變成帶課老師所以這個方面我覺得你們應該通訪檢討常常會發生在教練的身上雖然我知道大部分的教練都很好可是遇到這樣的教練我覺得我們常有嚴重的學生會求恃無門\n\n8\n00:03:02,738 --> 00:03:18,498\n這個部分我想因為涉及到個案所以必須要就個案的情況再去了解可是我覺得這樣的情況很常見接下來的第三個就是也是屏東縣的教練他認為說選手如果得到獎金的話他應該這個獎金有部分應該是要\n\n9\n00:03:21,561 --> 00:03:43,639\n給全隊大家來分享可是這個是沒有當然是沒有說一定強制要多少可是越來越嚴重到有時候要到三分之二結果學生的家長來找我們投訴說怎麼有這樣的一個規定然後他跟老師知道以後教練知道以後他跟學生恐嚇說如果你這樣子的話以後\n\n10\n00:03:44,740 --> 00:04:10,976\n我把你就是聽說這個球隊的話以後你進入不了任何一個球隊也就是說這個學生就受到老師的霸凌還好他高中畢業就考上國立大學就離開這個學校可是這個老師還是停留在還是留在原高中教書所以這樣的狀況不是很不是很所謂的rare是非常常見所以我才跟你講說應該要給一套的措施對我們所謂的教練來看\n\n11\n00:04:12,637 --> 00:04:12,717\n請國防部\n\n12\n00:04:42,540 --> 00:05:09,837\n我們常務次長楊基隆市長好委員好你看一下我今天穿的衣服是這是我們原住民的軍人在10月12號因為鬥毆事件死亡的一個軍人是我們海軍陸戰隊是我們對這件事情非常感到遺憾對我也知道大家都很遺憾不是只有你很遺憾那我想知道目前的處理進度\n\n13\n00:05:12,270 --> 00:05:38,126\n這個進度方面分幾方面跟委員做報告第一個就是有關照案的這個陸軍的零星的士兵還有空軍那個銀星的士兵我們分別都移送地檢署然後現在目前零星士兵遭到羈押然後我們也依照他酒後失序還有營外不當持有盜竊這樣的這樣的成因來記他兩大過以及記過的處分然後對於空軍那個銀星的士兵我們\n\n14\n00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:42,771\n我大概都知道我有請兩次國會聯絡人到辦公室來我想知道\n\n15\n00:05:57,149 --> 00:06:21,407\n對也就是說被加害者的這個部隊有沒有確實去關心我知道受害者這個部隊是每天都至少有兩三個我們的不論是輔導長、連長或者是連輔導長都有過去關心每天都有到可是呢我們加害的這個空軍跟陸軍的部隊長官他被害者家屬跟我講說他認為\n\n16\n00:06:23,248 --> 00:06:37,038\n他們只要他們只做到所謂的徹子就把這個事情切得一乾二淨完全跟部隊沒有關係讓家屬覺得很不被尊重你至少來我們所謂的我們你們漢人說上個鄉吧我們那邊是\n\n17\n00:06:39,102 --> 00:06:40,083\n家屬感受不到國防部的\n\n18\n00:06:56,744 --> 00:07:19,745\n所謂的關心跟愛啦那當然陸戰隊這邊做得很好給予肯定可是我們陸軍跟空軍的就完全沒有聯絡也沒有去過家裡也沒有去過那個臨救前至少敬個禮都沒有那我不知道你們的是怕被連帶處分嗎還是怎麼樣不是這個再跟委員就說明一下\n\n19\n00:07:20,766 --> 00:07:41,691\n國防部基於三軍一家,我們不管陸海空軍都是同根同源,然後也都情同所屬。這個事情一發生之後,我們就責成海軍陸戰隊,是委員你現在所看到的海軍陸戰隊所有的同仁,代表三軍、代表國防部到家屬家裡面去做了相關有關於傷臟事宜或是一些輔敘事宜的協助。\n\n20\n00:07:43,952 --> 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