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00:03:00,945\n是,那特別是像這個禮拜或是像下禮拜的禮拜二之後都是東北氣風非常強勁的時候,這個對我們陽城房市是非常艱鉅的挑戰。那事實上陳政委也是多次的關心,不論是濁水溪陽城的問題還有高屏溪,那甚至台東的陽城的問題。當然我們現在關濁水溪的部分會加強。\n\n9\n00:03:03,106 --> 00:03:03,326\n社交署\n\n10\n00:03:21,545 --> 00:03:49,728\n給私家署看一個表格社家署是嗎?對,我不知道這是什麼數據這個0到6歲國家一起養2.0這是賴總統推動重要的政策之一不只是政府的補助跟津貼的相關的資源到位那嬰幼兒的托育制度也是非常的重要我們可以看這個表格請部長跟署長看一下你看你底下的這個部件托育資源中心部件人數\n\n11\n00:03:50,709 --> 00:03:58,672\n我們就看112跟113都已經達到125,達到400但是受益萬能次的最下一個112年度是98.87為什麼113年度是51.37能不能簡單說明一下時間的關係好,可不可以說明一下這五\n\n12\n00:04:10,066 --> 00:04:33,112\n報告委員是因為疫情的關係疫情的關係對對所以有些稍微想調整疫情的關係應該部件拖曳支援中心會跟拖動社區公共拖曳設施遇到的狀況會一致嘛對不對對阿為什麼你的公共拖曳的設施社區公共拖曳的設施你的部件部件數113.100、113.125但是受益人數120是126、113年度是170\n\n13\n00:04:39,241 --> 00:04:39,341\n委員會主席\n\n14\n00:04:55,106 --> 00:04:57,288\n中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案．\n\n15\n00:05:15,703 --> 00:05:15,803\n主席\n\n16\n00:05:31,854 --> 00:05:51,591\n而且112年的下半年度跟113年度的這個狀況執行怎麼會跟疫情有關係?你總是要先這邊打我啊!你事情要再跟我講什麼再講啊!公開來先回應清楚啊!你回應不清楚你事情現在也不用再跟我講了啊!\n\n17\n00:05:54,096 --> 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112年度是98.87為什麼113年度是51.37能不能簡單說明一下時間的關係好,可不可以說明一下這五\n250066\t273112\t報告委員是因為疫情的關係疫情的關係對對所以有些稍微想調整疫情的關係應該部件拖曳支援中心會跟拖動社區公共拖曳設施遇到的狀況會一致嘛對不對對阿為什麼你的公共拖曳的設施社區公共拖曳的設施你的部件部件數113.100、113.125但是受益人數120是126、113年度是170\n279241\t279341\t委員會主席\n295106\t297288\t中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案 ．\n315703\t315803\t主席\n331854\t351591\t而且112年的下半年度跟113年度的這個狀況執行怎麼會跟疫情有關係?你總是要先這邊打我啊!你事情要再跟我講什麼再講啊!公開來先回應清楚啊!你回應不清楚你事情現在也不用再跟我講了啊!\n354096\t375826\t跟我有說明,因為這邊的統計實施到113年6月,所以看到319,那如果是112,一整年是600多,就是還有半年的數據沒有呈現。一樣啊,你對照你的社區公共設施嘛,怎麼你下面就是可以達標,你下面這個托育資源中心你就能幫我達標,而且落差值非常大。\n380863\t394509\t一百一十二年度就是九十八點八七一一三年度就是五十一點三七啊快減半了快砍半了但是你的公共托育設施我一直在講你一二可以達到一二六一一三還跑到一百七的啊\n399318\t399778\t請審查行政院函請審議\n422243\t445474\t最少你要簡單的有辦法跟我們說明啊因為委員可以看到我們的托育資源中心在113年目標值是621他是全年度的那這邊提到的統計是到113年6月底是319所以他就是大概執行一半到年底的時候預計就會達到621這是我們到年底的目標值那因為現在統計只有半年所以他的那個達成率只有51%\n449206\t450887\t好 我們休息10分鐘讓官員休息一下\n","txt":"市長你很辛苦,你屬於三次颱風,但是這種極端氣候你必須要辛苦,你沒有辛苦就沒有辦法去應變這樣的一個極端氣候所造成的損害。因為我們台灣第一大母核著水期就快要到漲潮的這種,過這個提防的這樣的一個水位。\n那所以我們在106年的時候積極你跟我還有當時的公共工程委會的這個主委吳哲成大家同心協力的可以讓索爾西的這個三人炮的整治得到第一期、第二期到現在第三期的競會那也從107年一直到現在\n首長應該還記得吧,就在112年是第二期的最後一年,其實成效斐然。也就是從以前的《三人報》這個東北京將近四個月時間,我們從原有的《三人報》的這個將近有59天,一直到去年度就剩下差不多2到5天左右了,應該是這麼講。但是你知道今年的狀況嗎?\n現在又是東北季風,首長有掌握嗎?能不能簡單回答一下?我們現在掌握的話,這個禮拜因為它的風速超過10秒,每秒10米左右,又增加了一天。那基本上,今年的卓爾西的陽城的房子,延續過去的結果,過去時數每秒5公尺以上就會產生陽城。那我們現在可以控制到時數,\n在每秒8公尺都不會有養成的這個問題那今年當然不幸因為楷米颱風讓我們之前7月多所投入的東西有一些損壞了那我們很快的就把它復原過來那當然我們的同仁也在第一線上非常的努力那我們會覺得說我們會延續過去的這個精神在行政院的指導之下跟各部會共同來努力\n廖長江議員\n何大為來之後可能會造成原理我們相關的一些這些做法做回會有損害的一個情況但是我們很清楚有的是經常性有的是要臨時來做相關的一些做法上的工法上的一些處理那你都有衛星的定位在做整個掌控所以這一段時間其實坦白講非常的嚴重\n是,那特別是像這個禮拜或是像下禮拜的禮拜二之後都是東北氣風非常強勁的時候,這個對我們陽城房市是非常艱鉅的挑戰。那事實上陳政委也是多次的關心,不論是濁水溪陽城的問題還有高屏溪,那甚至台東的陽城的問題。當然我們現在關濁水溪的部分會加強。\n社交署\n給私家署看一個表格社家署是嗎?對,我不知道這是什麼數據這個0到6歲國家一起養2.0這是賴總統推動重要的政策之一不只是政府的補助跟津貼的相關的資源到位那嬰幼兒的托育制度也是非常的重要我們可以看這個表格請部長跟署長看一下你看你底下的這個部件托育資源中心部件人數\n我們就看112跟113都已經達到125,達到400但是受益萬能次的最下一個 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