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00:14.021\n呃...謝謝...趙偉不好意思我沒有像...邱委員那麼優秀我可能會超時我需要更多的時間為人民爭取齁好沒問題那...請經濟部經濟部...何次長齁呃...次長謝謝好委員好好我們前瞻預算終於審到了我要跟現在呢我們在審這個預算喔我要特別的抱怨你們都欠台中市一千多億啊\n\n00:31.502 --> 00:49.091\n前瞻預算補高雄1200多億台中市拿到了228億今天我要來討個公道我從上任至今不斷地在關心水環境清水建設前瞻預算我要問一下次長您知道我關心哪個區塊嗎有所耳聞嗎還是要別人救你\n\n00:55.953 --> 01:23.470\n就是上次去那個會刊的那一條我們不只會刊過總諮詢的時候經濟組我也講過漢溪還有柳川四期我們先看一下城市因河流而偉大而我們現在看到編列的前瞻預算我要請問一下在這一次不管是水與安全相關的水建設請問一下次長在這一次我們台中漢溪有沒有去列入到相關的前瞻建設預算\n\n01:27.073 --> 01:29.035\n喂!差很多啊!你剛剛跟我講說會列入,現在跟我講說會評估\n\n01:52.109 --> 02:12.118\n市長講清楚說明白因為我們是希望就是說地方政府這邊能夠來提出來之後我們這邊再來做審查是地方現在柳川3期已經完成了柳川4期有提出計畫那我想問一下柳川4期有沒有前瞻預算\n\n02:14.690 --> 02:38.997\n有沒有編列?有算4期要繼續做建設?你剛剛說地方政府要提出計畫嗎?因為這個預算事實上是有限我們是一個全國性競爭的計畫所以我們也會考量到各個地方政府所提出來的計畫的急迫性所以剛剛你跟我講說地方政府要提出計畫提了嘛\n\n02:40.197 --> 02:44.022\n二、審查行政院函請審議:「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案»:\n\n02:59.448 --> 03:16.559\n韓西的話應該是原來是市府啦市府管轄不要說原來現在現在的話就是我們這個水利署這邊可以來對啊所以如果現在韓西呢韓西本來就是你們自己提計畫自己去做建設啊怎麼會跟市政府有關呢\n\n03:17.987 --> 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