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00:03:00,752\n好這個我們一定來演繹第二個就是我10月23號去臺東用蘭嶼的一個地方的一個需求他們的蘭嶼醫院的一個分院的一個籌建的計畫是從108年就開始了不過到現在一直停擺當中希望衛福部不能夠站在主導的角色來來幫忙因為目前大概是停在土地的取得當然現在大概是利用衛生所附近的周遭的土地然後變更以後\n\n8\n00:03:01,252 --> 00:03:01,272\n盧縣一\n\n9\n00:03:24,224 --> 00:03:50,529\n林執行長相當清楚是不是委員謝謝那就是說委員非常關心蘭嶼這個我們的醫療的資源那當然15塊的15個土地的取得其實都已經透過部落會議在那邊在做整合那現在就是碰到就是我們要跟縣府那特別是對當地的醫療資源人力還有我們也碰到一個叫醫療法規設置標準那因為這個部分會牽涉到我們\n\n10\n00:03:52,009 --> 00:04:16,970\n好那我希望我們林執政能夠努力的把這件事情完成我有聽到一個消息說15年臺東可能會成立護理專班這護理專班的時候你能不能就蘭嶼的這個需求也放進去把學生也納入他們的公費的一個培訓或者是偏遠地區比如說嚴平啊海端啊達人這些他的長照跟護理專班能夠一起來設置可以嗎都會包括一起來討論\n\n11\n00:04:17,971 --> 00:04:18,111\n衛生部長\n\n12\n00:04:47,871 --> 00:05:07,666\n第三個就是說他們只實施了一次全島的健康檢查107年的時候是經濟部主導的可是希望是常規的因為如果你是住在和菲料地區的話你希望國家是每年都要給你做健康檢查不是嗎所以這個部分應該是衛福部來主導而不是經濟部可以嗎部長\n\n13\n00:05:08,871 --> 00:05:38,372\n好謝謝委員我想你提的都是關心我們男女主人的這個好謝謝我們也會來努力先肯定目前衛福部對原住民平均移民的一個縮短的努力現在按照如果每10年縮短1歲的話我們確實是有達到我們現在這個平均移民是差了6.19歲我們講平均的話不過男性的話也是要加油在7.12歲這裡所以我們在去年有成立原住民主健康法公告了\n\n14\n00:05:38,772 --> 00:06:06,999\n那我們一直說要專責機構專責機構目前還是沒有目前是有原住民主健康政策會還有原住民主健康研究中心我希望這個都都在我們專責機構的一個下面也就是說他應該是附在那個組織裡面而不是你又再去找了一個原住民主健康中心原住民主健康政策會結果這些沒有辦法提供給衛福部適當的一些建議或者是政策的一個方向可以嗎\n\n15\n00:06:08,427 --> 00:06:20,961\n我想我們在謝謝我們在研議這個部分因為我相信如果現在問你說原住民主健康中心有提供哪些研究計畫或是成果給你參考你可以提得出來嗎應該還沒有吧\n\n16\n00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:51,451\n我會不會請國衛院來我去做這個謝謝我想要謝謝委員那我們原民的健康研究中心是在去年12月在部裡面的支持之下成立那我們自己院內做了系統性的這個整合那目前請的是我們的許惠恆許副院長他非常有經驗他過去在臺中總統臺北總統對我非常期待\n\n17\n00:06:53,492 --> 00:06:53,752\n李卓人議員\n\n18\n00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:42,748\n中東歐國家畢業的醫學系或牙醫系學生可以到偏鄉及離島去完成醫療臨床實作的資格大多數只是為了拿到參加國考第二階段考試的資格罷了最終這些同學也大多不會留在原鄉或者是離島地區依然會留在都市地區病患人數較多且集中的地方本席要特別點名衛福部醫事師口腔衛生師健康師\n\n19\n00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:43,728\n委員會主席\n\n20\n00:08:04,784 --> 00:08:21,764\n或是更提高該本地區的健保點值去引導醫療資源的有效分配才是而不是利用優化偏鄉醫療經濟方案的錢去補助你們部立醫院辦理臨床實習解決偏偏留學生的臨床實作培訓\n\n21\n00:08:22,845 --> 00:08:46,125\n政府的錢是要解決醫療資源欠缺醫生不願意去的原鄉及離島服務的問題而不是提供他們去實習然後去提取得資格去報考第二階段國考這是我看到偏鄉24億的那個優化的那個政策後面的含義希望部長能夠理解我的想法可不可以讓我報告一下那個\n\n22\n00:08:47,466 --> 00:09:07,575\n我們偏鄉的一個計畫偏鄉醫療的計畫其實都一直在實行而且他是很多元化的那在去年覺得開始外部接受到也很多鄉鎮沒有牙醫師缺乏老人照顧其實很重要所以在後來就加進去在\n\n23\n00:09:08,815 --> 00:09:25,092\n盡量去補充偏鄉地去壓抑這個部壓抑的人力那這個計畫其實在今年的年初方面就已經核定那後來我們就任以後就是意見很多啦所以我們就\n\n24\n00:09:26,072 --> 00:09:48,481\n好好就把這個案先暫緩來討論所以目前是暫緩嗎現在說偏鄉計畫不能暫緩但是在牙醫的偏鄉牙醫的這部分我們現在就是政府現在的策略就是政策就是只有針對我現在再講清楚一點針對現在沒有牙醫師的55個鄉鎮\n\n25\n00:09:53,063 --> 00:09:53,163\n以本國醫師優先\n\n26\n00:10:06,186 --> 00:10:33,812\n現在就是這樣子部長這些事情我大概都理解啦那我要告訴你說24號他們要上街頭嘛我們不會讓這樣的一個計畫這麼好的一個計畫來補償先變成大家爭議的一個點那我還是要告訴你的24頁如果剛才那個補償24頁包括很多補助譬如說牙醫在衛生所的設備啦等等的這些所以真的\n\n27\n00:10:34,512 --> 00:10:35,112\n11月24日要上街頭嗎\n\n28\n00:10:58,917 --> 00:11:25,151\n所以我想請那個大家都要社會要了解啦我們這個衛福部絕對是站在維護人民健康為優先來解決這個長久的爭議同時希望能夠創造三眼讓偏鄉有醫師和牙醫師當包括醫師嘛然後也大家能夠都能夠了解接受那個看怎麼樣做我們都會有得到社會公示再進行下一步但是現在要做的只是55個\n\n29\n00:11:27,142 --> 00:11:27,162\n盧縣一\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2045\t31034\t主席有請部長委員長我們看到我們前章基礎建設第5期有特別編列大概2億8千萬是補助地方政府辦理援助民主及離島地區衛生所的耐震補強評估跟補強工作那感謝我們召委蘇星群召委安排18號我去那馬下看了我們\n33102\t59702\t衛生所所在地距離人民居住最遠的一個衛生所因為那個是他們在莫拉克15年前發生的時候因業廢時的把衛生所搬離了離人民所在的地方3.2公里而且是波度非常陡一般年輕人還要特殊技巧才可以開上去的用摩托車才能夠開上去那個衛生所然後如果是一般汽車的話大概十幾分鐘才會到達\n60816\t85843\t那當然這經過10年他們希望能夠搬下來那我們召開的一個區長的一個召開的一個會決議希望能夠搬到現在原來的舊圖書館也就是說舊圖書館是堪用的大概是30年的一個建物的一個年齡那希望衛福部能夠去參考他們在地的一個規劃然後去把他們實現他們的夢想好不好\n86263\t101514\t好的因為當時謝謝蘇貞文安排考察那我們的次長也有參與那回來也有報告這類事情我們非常積極去了解那據了解是說也有人說那裡還是土石流方面\n102074\t126366\t有所以那天我有請學保來評估他們認為有有我們會持續評估對如果說他有持續做每年的輸進的話那個地方是還是可以用的好我們一定在第二個就是需求就是洗腎室因為那馬下距離最近的岐山醫院要大概一個半小時到高雄要兩個半小時所以他當地的洗腎的人口大概24人\n127766\t130449\t阿里山南山三個部落地緣性關係研究可行性評估\n152227\t180752\t好這個我們一定來演繹第二個就是我10月23號去臺東用蘭嶼的一個地方的一個需求他們的蘭嶼醫院的一個分院的一個籌建的計畫是從108年就開始了不過到現在一直停擺當中希望衛福部不能夠站在主導的角色來來幫忙因為目前大概是停在土地的取得當然現在大概是利用衛生所附近的周遭的土地然後變更以後\n181252\t181272\t盧縣一\n204224\t230529\t林執行長相當清楚是不是委員謝謝那就是說委員非常關心蘭嶼這個我們的醫療的資源那當然15塊的15個土地的取得其實都已經透過部落會議在那邊在做整合那現在就是碰到就是我們要跟縣府那特別是對當地的醫療資源人力還有我們也碰到一個叫醫療法規設置標準那因為這個部分會牽涉到我們\n232009\t256970\t好那我希望我們林執政能夠努力的把這件事情完成我有聽到一個消息說15年臺東可能會成立護理專班這護理專班的時候你能不能就蘭嶼的這個需求也放進去把學生也納入他們的公費的一個培訓或者是偏遠地區比如說嚴平啊海端啊達人這些他的長照跟護理專班能夠一起來設置可以嗎都會包括一起來討論\n257971\t258111\t衛生部長\n287871\t307666\t第三個就是說他們只實施了一次全島的健康檢查107年的時候是經濟部主導的可是希望是常規的因為如果你是住在和菲料地區的話你希望國家是每年都要給你做健康檢查不是嗎所以這個部分應該是衛福部來主導而不是經濟部可以嗎部長\n308871\t338372\t好謝謝委員我想你提的都是關心我們男女主人的這個好謝謝我們也會來努力先肯定目前衛福部對原住民平均移民的一個縮短的努力現在按照如果每10年縮短1歲的話我們確實是有達到我們現在這個平均移民是差了6.19歲我們講平均的話不過男性的話也是要加油在7.12歲這裡所以我們在去年有成立原住民主健康法公告了\n338772\t366999\t那我們一直說要專責機構專責機構目前還是沒有目前是有原住民主健康政策會還有原住民主健康研究中心我希望這個都都在我們專責機構的一個下面也就是說他應該是附在那個組織裡面而不是你又再去找了一個原住民主健康中心原住民主健康政策會結果這些沒有辦法提供給衛福部適當的一些建議或者是政策的一個方向可以嗎\n368427\t380961\t我想我們在 謝謝我們在研議這個部分因為我相信如果現在問你說原住民主健康中心有提供哪些研究計畫或是成果給你參考你可以提得出來嗎應該還沒有吧\n385830\t411451\t我會不會請國衛院來我去做這個謝謝 我想要謝謝委員那我們原民的健康研究中心是在去年12月在部裡面的支持之下成立那我們自己院內做了系統性的這個整合那目前請的是我們的許惠恆許副院長他非常有經驗他過去在臺中總統臺北總統對我非常期待\n413492\t413752\t李卓人議員\n435120\t462748\t中東歐國家畢業的醫學系或牙醫系學生可以到偏鄉及離島去完成醫療臨床實作的資格大多數只是為了拿到參加國考第二階段考試的資格罷了最終這些同學也大多不會留在原鄉或者是離島地區依然會留在都市地區病患人數較多且集中的地方本席要特別點名衛福部醫事師口腔衛生師健康師\n463588\t463728\t委員會主席\n484784\t501764\t或是更提高該本地區的健保點值去引導醫療資源的有效分配才是而不是利用優化偏鄉醫療經濟方案的錢去補助你們部立醫院辦理臨床實習解決偏偏留學生的臨床實作培訓\n502845\t526125\t政府的錢是要解決醫療資源欠缺醫生不願意去的原鄉及離島服務的問題而不是提供他們去實習然後去提取得資格去報考第二階段國考這是我看到偏鄉24億的那個優化的那個政策後面的含義希望部長能夠理解我的想法可不可以讓我報告一下那個\n527466\t547575\t我們偏鄉的一個計畫偏鄉醫療的計畫其實都一直在實行而且他是很多元化的那在去年覺得開始外部接受到也很多鄉鎮沒有牙醫師缺乏老人照顧其實很重要所以在後來就加進去在\n548815\t565092\t盡量去補充偏鄉地去壓抑這個部壓抑的人力那這個計畫其實在今年的年初方面就已經核定那後來我們就任以後就是意見很多啦所以我們就\n566072\t588481\t好好就把這個案先暫緩來討論所以目前是暫緩嗎現在說偏鄉計畫不能暫緩但是在牙醫的偏鄉牙醫的這部分我們現在就是政府現在的策略就是政策就是只有針對我現在再講清楚一點針對現在沒有牙醫師的55個鄉鎮\n593063\t593163\t以本國醫師優先\n606186\t633812\t現在就是這樣子部長這些事情我大概都理解啦那我要告訴你說24號他們要上街頭嘛我們不會讓這樣的一個計畫這麼好的一個計畫來補償先變成大家爭議的一個點那我還是要告訴你的24頁如果剛才那個補償24頁包括很多補助譬如說牙醫在衛生所的設備啦等等的這些所以真的\n634512\t635112\t11月24日要上街頭嗎\n658917\t685151\t所以我想請那個大家都要社會要了解啦我們這個衛福部絕對是站在維護人民健康為優先來解決這個長久的爭議同時希望能夠創造三眼讓偏鄉有醫師和牙醫師當包括醫師嘛然後也大家能夠都能夠了解接受那個看怎麼樣做我們都會有得到社會公示再進行下一步但是現在要做的只是55個\n687142\t687162\t盧縣一\n","txt":"主席有請部長委員長我們看到我們前章基礎建設第5期有特別編列大概2億8千萬是補助地方政府辦理援助民主及離島地區衛生所的耐震補強評估跟補強工作那感謝我們召委蘇星群召委安排18號我去那馬下看了我們\n衛生所所在地距離人民居住最遠的一個衛生所因為那個是他們在莫拉克15年前發生的時候因業廢時的把衛生所搬離了離人民所在的地方3.2公里而且是波度非常陡一般年輕人還要特殊技巧才可以開上去的用摩托車才能夠開上去那個衛生所然後如果是一般汽車的話大概十幾分鐘才會到達\n那當然這經過10年他們希望能夠搬下來那我們召開的一個區長的一個召開的一個會決議希望能夠搬到現在原來的舊圖書館也就是說舊圖書館是堪用的大概是30年的一個建物的一個年齡那希望衛福部能夠去參考他們在地的一個規劃然後去把他們實現他們的夢想好不好\n好的因為當時謝謝蘇貞文安排考察那我們的次長也有參與那回來也有報告這類事情我們非常積極去了解那據了解是說也有人說那裡還是土石流方面\n有所以那天我有請學保來評估他們認為有有我們會持續評估對如果說他有持續做每年的輸進的話那個地方是還是可以用的好我們一定在第二個就是需求就是洗腎室因為那馬下距離最近的岐山醫院要大概一個半小時到高雄要兩個半小時所以他當地的洗腎的人口大概24人\n阿里山南山三個部落地緣性關係研究可行性評估\n好這個我們一定來演繹第二個就是我10月23號去臺東用蘭嶼的一個地方的一個需求他們的蘭嶼醫院的一個分院的一個籌建的計畫是從108年就開始了不過到現在一直停擺當中希望衛福部不能夠站在主導的角色來來幫忙因為目前大概是停在土地的取得當然現在大概是利用衛生所附近的周遭的土地然後變更以後\n盧縣一\n林執行長相當清楚是不是委員謝謝那就是說委員非常關心蘭嶼這個我們的醫療的資源那當然15塊的15個土地的取得其實都已經透過部落會議在那邊在做整合那現在就是碰到就是我們要跟縣府那特別是對當地的醫療資源人力還有我們也碰到一個叫醫療法規設置標準那因為這個部分會牽涉到我們\n好那我希望我們林執政能夠努力的把這件事情完成我有聽到一個消息說15年臺東可能會成立護理專班這護理專班的時候你能不能就蘭嶼的這個需求也放進去把學生也納入他們的公費的一個培訓或者是偏遠地區比如說嚴平啊海端啊達人這些他的長照跟護理專班能夠一起來設置可以嗎都會包括一起來討論\n衛生部長\n第三個就是說他們只實施了一次全島的健康檢查107年的時候是經濟部主導的可是希望是常規的因為如果你是住在和菲料地區的話你希望國家是每年都要給你做健康檢查不是嗎所以這個部分應該是衛福部來主導而不是經濟部可以嗎部長\n好謝謝委員我想你提的都是關心我們男女主人的這個好謝謝我們也會來努力先肯定目前衛福部對原住民平均移民的一個縮短的努力現在按照如果每10年縮短1歲的話我們確實是有達到我們現在這個平均移民是差了6.19歲我們講平均的話不過男性的話也是要加油在7.12歲這裡所以我們在去年有成立原住民主健康法公告了\n那我們一直說要專責機構專責機構目前還是沒有目前是有原住民主健康政策會還有原住民主健康研究中心我希望這個都都在我們專責機構的一個下面也就是說他應該是附在那個組織裡面而不是你又再去找了一個原住民主健康中心原住民主健康政策會結果這些沒有辦法提供給衛福部適當的一些建議或者是政策的一個方向可以嗎\n我想我們在 謝謝我們在研議這個部分因為我相信如果現在問你說原住民主健康中心有提供哪些研究計畫或是成果給你參考你可以提得出來嗎應該還沒有吧\n我會不會請國衛院來我去做這個謝謝 我想要謝謝委員那我們原民的健康研究中心是在去年12月在部裡面的支持之下成立那我們自己院內做了系統性的這個整合那目前請的是我們的許惠恆許副院長他非常有經驗他過去在臺中總統臺北總統對我非常期待\n李卓人議員\n中東歐國家畢業的醫學系或牙醫系學生可以到偏鄉及離島去完成醫療臨床實作的資格大多數只是為了拿到參加國考第二階段考試的資格罷了最終這些同學也大多不會留在原鄉或者是離島地區依然會留在都市地區病患人數較多且集中的地方本席要特別點名衛福部醫事師口腔衛生師健康師\n委員會主席\n或是更提高該本地區的健保點值去引導醫療資源的有效分配才是而不是利用優化偏鄉醫療經濟方案的錢去補助你們部立醫院辦理臨床實習解決偏偏留學生的臨床實作培訓\n政府的錢是要解決醫療資源欠缺醫生不願意去的原鄉及離島服務的問題而不是提供他們去實習然後去提取得資格去報考第二階段國考這是我看到偏鄉24億的那個優化的那個政策後面的含義希望部長能夠理解我的想法可不可以讓我報告一下那個\n我們偏鄉的一個計畫偏鄉醫療的計畫其實都一直在實行而且他是很多元化的那在去年覺得開始外部接受到也很多鄉鎮沒有牙醫師缺乏老人照顧其實很重要所以在後來就加進去在\n盡量去補充偏鄉地去壓抑這個部壓抑的人力那這個計畫其實在今年的年初方面就已經核定那後來我們就任以後就是意見很多啦所以我們就\n好好就把這個案先暫緩來討論所以目前是暫緩嗎現在說偏鄉計畫不能暫緩但是在牙醫的偏鄉牙醫的這部分我們現在就是政府現在的策略就是政策就是只有針對我現在再講清楚一點針對現在沒有牙醫師的55個鄉鎮\n以本國醫師優先\n現在就是這樣子部長這些事情我大概都理解啦那我要告訴你說24號他們要上街頭嘛我們不會讓這樣的一個計畫這麼好的一個計畫來補償先變成大家爭議的一個點那我還是要告訴你的24頁如果剛才那個補償24頁包括很多補助譬如說牙醫在衛生所的設備啦等等的這些所以真的\n11月24日要上街頭嗎\n所以我想請那個大家都要社會要了解啦我們這個衛福部絕對是站在維護人民健康為優先來解決這個長久的爭議同時希望能夠創造三眼讓偏鄉有醫師和牙醫師當包括醫師嘛然後也大家能夠都能夠了解接受那個看怎麼樣做我們都會有得到社會公示再進行下一步但是現在要做的只是55個\n盧縣一\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.045 --> 00:31.034\n主席有請部長委員長我們看到我們前章基礎建設第5期有特別編列大概2億8千萬是補助地方政府辦理援助民主及離島地區衛生所的耐震補強評估跟補強工作那感謝我們召委蘇星群召委安排18號我去那馬下看了我們\n\n00:33.102 --> 00:59.702\n衛生所所在地距離人民居住最遠的一個衛生所因為那個是他們在莫拉克15年前發生的時候因業廢時的把衛生所搬離了離人民所在的地方3.2公里而且是波度非常陡一般年輕人還要特殊技巧才可以開上去的用摩托車才能夠開上去那個衛生所然後如果是一般汽車的話大概十幾分鐘才會到達\n\n01:00.816 --> 01:25.843\n那當然這經過10年他們希望能夠搬下來那我們召開的一個區長的一個召開的一個會決議希望能夠搬到現在原來的舊圖書館也就是說舊圖書館是堪用的大概是30年的一個建物的一個年齡那希望衛福部能夠去參考他們在地的一個規劃然後去把他們實現他們的夢想好不好\n\n01:26.263 --> 01:41.514\n好的因為當時謝謝蘇貞文安排考察那我們的次長也有參與那回來也有報告這類事情我們非常積極去了解那據了解是說也有人說那裡還是土石流方面\n\n01:42.074 --> 02:06.366\n有所以那天我有請學保來評估他們認為有有我們會持續評估對如果說他有持續做每年的輸進的話那個地方是還是可以用的好我們一定在第二個就是需求就是洗腎室因為那馬下距離最近的岐山醫院要大概一個半小時到高雄要兩個半小時所以他當地的洗腎的人口大概24人\n\n02:07.766 --> 02:10.449\n阿里山南山三個部落地緣性關係研究可行性評估\n\n02:32.227 --> 03:00.752\n好這個我們一定來演繹第二個就是我10月23號去臺東用蘭嶼的一個地方的一個需求他們的蘭嶼醫院的一個分院的一個籌建的計畫是從108年就開始了不過到現在一直停擺當中希望衛福部不能夠站在主導的角色來來幫忙因為目前大概是停在土地的取得當然現在大概是利用衛生所附近的周遭的土地然後變更以後\n\n03:01.252 --> 03:01.272\n盧縣一\n\n03:24.224 --> 03:50.529\n林執行長相當清楚是不是委員謝謝那就是說委員非常關心蘭嶼這個我們的醫療的資源那當然15塊的15個土地的取得其實都已經透過部落會議在那邊在做整合那現在就是碰到就是我們要跟縣府那特別是對當地的醫療資源人力還有我們也碰到一個叫醫療法規設置標準那因為這個部分會牽涉到我們\n\n03:52.009 --> 04:16.970\n好那我希望我們林執政能夠努力的把這件事情完成我有聽到一個消息說15年臺東可能會成立護理專班這護理專班的時候你能不能就蘭嶼的這個需求也放進去把學生也納入他們的公費的一個培訓或者是偏遠地區比如說嚴平啊海端啊達人這些他的長照跟護理專班能夠一起來設置可以嗎都會包括一起來討論\n\n04:17.971 --> 04:18.111\n衛生部長\n\n04:47.871 --> 05:07.666\n第三個就是說他們只實施了一次全島的健康檢查107年的時候是經濟部主導的可是希望是常規的因為如果你是住在和菲料地區的話你希望國家是每年都要給你做健康檢查不是嗎所以這個部分應該是衛福部來主導而不是經濟部可以嗎部長\n\n05:08.871 --> 05:38.372\n好謝謝委員我想你提的都是關心我們男女主人的這個好謝謝我們也會來努力先肯定目前衛福部對原住民平均移民的一個縮短的努力現在按照如果每10年縮短1歲的話我們確實是有達到我們現在這個平均移民是差了6.19歲我們講平均的話不過男性的話也是要加油在7.12歲這裡所以我們在去年有成立原住民主健康法公告了\n\n05:38.772 --> 06:06.999\n那我們一直說要專責機構專責機構目前還是沒有目前是有原住民主健康政策會還有原住民主健康研究中心我希望這個都都在我們專責機構的一個下面也就是說他應該是附在那個組織裡面而不是你又再去找了一個原住民主健康中心原住民主健康政策會結果這些沒有辦法提供給衛福部適當的一些建議或者是政策的一個方向可以嗎\n\n06:08.427 --> 06:20.961\n我想我們在謝謝我們在研議這個部分因為我相信如果現在問你說原住民主健康中心有提供哪些研究計畫或是成果給你參考你可以提得出來嗎應該還沒有吧\n\n06:25.830 --> 06:51.451\n我會不會請國衛院來我去做這個謝謝我想要謝謝委員那我們原民的健康研究中心是在去年12月在部裡面的支持之下成立那我們自己院內做了系統性的這個整合那目前請的是我們的許惠恆許副院長他非常有經驗他過去在臺中總統臺北總統對我非常期待\n\n06:53.492 --> 06:53.752\n李卓人議員\n\n07:15.120 --> 07:42.748\n中東歐國家畢業的醫學系或牙醫系學生可以到偏鄉及離島去完成醫療臨床實作的資格大多數只是為了拿到參加國考第二階段考試的資格罷了最終這些同學也大多不會留在原鄉或者是離島地區依然會留在都市地區病患人數較多且集中的地方本席要特別點名衛福部醫事師口腔衛生師健康師\n\n07:43.588 --> 07:43.728\n委員會主席\n\n08:04.784 --> 08:21.764\n或是更提高該本地區的健保點值去引導醫療資源的有效分配才是而不是利用優化偏鄉醫療經濟方案的錢去補助你們部立醫院辦理臨床實習解決偏偏留學生的臨床實作培訓\n\n08:22.845 --> 08:46.125\n政府的錢是要解決醫療資源欠缺醫生不願意去的原鄉及離島服務的問題而不是提供他們去實習然後去提取得資格去報考第二階段國考這是我看到偏鄉24億的那個優化的那個政策後面的含義希望部長能夠理解我的想法可不可以讓我報告一下那個\n\n08:47.466 --> 09:07.575\n我們偏鄉的一個計畫偏鄉醫療的計畫其實都一直在實行而且他是很多元化的那在去年覺得開始外部接受到也很多鄉鎮沒有牙醫師缺乏老人照顧其實很重要所以在後來就加進去在\n\n09:08.815 --> 09:25.092\n盡量去補充偏鄉地去壓抑這個部壓抑的人力那這個計畫其實在今年的年初方面就已經核定那後來我們就任以後就是意見很多啦所以我們就\n\n09:26.072 --> 09:48.481\n好好就把這個案先暫緩來討論所以目前是暫緩嗎現在說偏鄉計畫不能暫緩但是在牙醫的偏鄉牙醫的這部分我們現在就是政府現在的策略就是政策就是只有針對我現在再講清楚一點針對現在沒有牙醫師的55個鄉鎮\n\n09:53.063 --> 09:53.163\n以本國醫師優先\n\n10:06.186 --> 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陳菁徽委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":140,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-26-10","speakers":["蘇清泉","陳昭姿","林月琴","盧縣一","陳菁徽","王育敏","邱鎮軍","林淑芬","黃秀芳","廖偉翔","黃國昌","賴士葆","邱議瑩","洪孟楷","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","涂權吉","吳春城","羅智強","張雅琳","羅廷瑋","楊瓊瓔","楊曜","王正旭","陳培瑜","劉建國","陳瑩"],"page_start":55,"meetingDate":["2024-11-21"],"gazette_id":"11310501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310501_00006"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"審查中華民國 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